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A Banner With BALLS (so to speak!); Making a controversial statement
Topic Started: Dec 6 2010, 01:42 AM (1,573 Views)
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I'd like to make a banner. A banner with a short, simple but powerful message with an instant impact and I'm looking for suggestions & input.

I carry my EDL flag high and proud on demo's but I'd like the aditional option of holding a banner or placard HIGH for all to see and that won't be missed.

I've some ideas but not at the 'impact level' I'd like to reach.

"The Government Is Lying To Us" is too non-specific.

"Islam Is A Violent Political And Theorcratic Ideology" is too long.



So a little about me before I make my next suggestion which may help to make a banner that not only carries the message but reflects me and my circumstances as an person:

I'm quite small at 5'4", a couple of years off 60, wear glasses and I'm in poor health with several illnesses but the only visual sign is my use of a walking stick. I've included a (not very good) pic taken at the Nuneaton demo to give you an idea of my appearance. As you can see, I usually wear 'everyday clothes' at a demo, you'll not get me confused with anyone else. I'm also in the LGBT Div.

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Bearing in mind the somewhat harmless figure I cut and the fact I'm in the LGBT Div, I've been thinking of the references in the koran to us LGBT folk and the fact that our heads should be hacked off or some such nosense.

With this in mind, would something like this (below) be accurate, appropriate, factual and have the impact that will draw attention
to the banner/placard?

I don't mind if it upsets anyone.

I don't mind it being controversial.

I have no objection to the attention it may draw to me.

I don't mind sticking my neck out but would want to do this responsibly and maturely.

I don't mind a request from ob to 'tone it down'/'get rid' or whatever and, although I'm reluctant to get myself arrested, I'll not object to this if the statement on my banner/placard is true, factual, appropriate to my circumstances and have the visual impact I desire.

If I'm not breaking any laws I'd try to keep my message high and proud despite ob 'requesting' it be 'removed'.


My suggestions:


ISLAM WANTS ME DEAD

THE KORAN SAYS I SHOULD BE KILLED

THE KORAN WANTS ME DEAD





I think you'll get the gist so any ideas?

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So your saying you want someone to design this poster for oyu?
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Hi Christine, how about "the Koran says i should be killed" ..or "the koran wants me dead"..its pretty much what that damn rotten Koran keeps preaching but ill keep thinking of more suggestions.. may i just add that im SO FED up with all thats happening in our communities, i still cannot fathom how the government is so weak!!!
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The punishment comes from the hadith not the koran, some info here
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545556

Something like "I am gay and under sharia law I would be killed"
Edited by roger_bates, Dec 6 2010, 01:56 AM.
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Christine .. use all of those 3 slogans and add below,
BUT MY MATES DON'T AGREEDLedledl :D :D
Edited by billy-no-mate, Dec 6 2010, 02:09 AM.
There are those who sit and await their fate,
others stand against this hate,
NO SURRENDER we all shout,
lets get this bloody ISLAM out.
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If I could suggest it, "me" doesn't make it clear that you are protesting for gay rights. How about "Islam wants gays dead" or "Gays Beware! Islam wants you dead!"
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Put a question out there - let the public find out:

WHAT DOES ISLAM THINK OF GAYS?
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Islam wants me dead is the one I like. Short and simple and gets the point across.
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Crap
Dec 6 2010, 01:50 AM
So your saying you want someone to design this poster for oyu?

I'm hoping to keep it simple and/or plain so as not to offer distractions from the message, plain background with BIG BOLD text for example.

A part of the impact will be made by the contrast between 'little ol' innocent me appearing like the harmless soul next door' and the controversial statement on the banner/placsard.





@posters so far:
I'm liking the feed back so keep 'em coming!

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How about this
SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU MOHAMMED.
BUT I'M STILL ALIVE.
On another note, for Tommy's next court appearance we could do with some 'Toot if you support Tommy' placards.
We're coming down on the overnight bus, so we can do without schlepping them down there. If any of the London peeps could organise a couple of them, me and my lad will happily work the passing traffic.
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Knuckles
Dec 6 2010, 02:41 AM
Put a question out there - let the public find out:

WHAT DOES ISLAM THINK OF GAYS?

Good point, Knuckles and I like the suggestion of using a question. Something like this would have to be the fallback if I can't find the 'killer satement' (no pun intended!) I'm looking for.



Remember folks, I need my message to be TRUE, ACCURATE and FACTUAL.

I'm quite looking forward to this!


roger_bates
Dec 6 2010, 01:54 AM
Something like "I am gay and under sharia law I would be killed"

I like the idea very much although I feel the fewer words I use, the faster the eye can recognise the message.
Perhaps: "I SHOULD(/WOULD) BE DEAD UNDER SHARIA LAW"?
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"A good solution applied with vigor now is better than a perfect solution applied ten minutes later" - General Patton

Under The Lights Where We Stand Tall
Nobody Touches Us At All
Showdown, Shootout, Spread Fear Within, Without
We're Gonna Take What's Ours To Have
Spread The Word Throughout The Land
They Say The Bad Guys Wear Black
We're Tagged And Can't Turn Back
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NO LEAVE THE GAY RIGHTS THING ALONE COS THE CATHOLICS ARE BASICALLY ON THAT SAME SORT OF VIBE THE FILTHY BULLIES THEY ARE,,,IM ONLY 30 BUT I KNOW THE CATHOLICS HATE US ALMOST AS MUCH AS MOST OF THE MUSLIMS,,,U NEED A HARD HITTING SLOGAN THAT DOESNT ALIENATE EVERY MUSLIM ..THEY DONT ALL HATE US U KNOW AND IF IS WAT THE EDL BELEIVE IVE MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE JOINING THIS GROUP... HOW ABOUT" DEATH TO THE WEST? THEN LEAVE"
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ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION-FOLLOW OR DIE.

They always tell us it means 'peace' or thats what most people are made to believe, its something I always like to make plain from the start....it says everything about them
...and they couldn't arrest you as its a fact.........and if they did arrest you then it would bring a very interesting case...don't you think?............60yr old lesbian arrested for stating a fact???
Edited by U.B.A., Dec 6 2010, 07:28 AM.
"...NOR SHALL MY SWORD SLEEP IN MY HAND."

E.D.L......THE THIN RED LINE
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ISLAM = CONVERT OR DIE !

Just a suggestion.
AUT PAX AUT BELLUM
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I turned up at an anti-war coalition demo with a placard that included "back Bush & Blair" on it........we snaked our way to the front where the speakers where on the platform and was pointed out. The police came in and surrounded us (6) and a Sargeant asked us to move.....I told him we were there demonstrating peacefully in silence.....he said if we didn't move we'd be arrested......I just burst out laughing and said to him loudly "what?....you mean you are going to arrest us for SUPPORTING the government???"
Even the anti-war lot were laughing....he threatened us again and was going bright red......I think because I'd coerced my pals into coming with me and didn't want them arrested I decided to move to the side where we were surrounded by OB..............Aftrewards and to this day I wished I had been arrested and went to the press and kicked up a big stink about it.....chance missed methinks, we just wanted to show support for the troops and were fed up with all the appeasing that was going on.
"...NOR SHALL MY SWORD SLEEP IN MY HAND."

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Dec 6 2010, 06:27 AM
NO LEAVE THE GAY RIGHTS THING ALONE COS THE CATHOLICS ARE BASICALLY ON THAT SAME SORT OF VIBE THE FILTHY BULLIES THEY ARE,,,IM ONLY 30 BUT I KNOW THE CATHOLICS HATE US ALMOST AS MUCH AS MOST OF THE MUSLIMS,,,U NEED A HARD HITTING SLOGAN THAT DOESNT ALIENATE EVERY MUSLIM ..THEY DONT ALL HATE US U KNOW AND IF IS WAT THE EDL BELEIVE IVE MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE JOINING THIS GROUP... HOW ABOUT" DEATH TO THE WEST? THEN LEAVE"
oh ye it was only last week a couple of home grown catholic's tried blowing a tube station up. When do you hear a catholic priest saying gays should be killed. YOU DONT.There aint no such thing as a moderate muslim imho. Have you seen the bit of the quran that said muslims cant be friends with non muslims....if they do its only so they can gain something. The edl is against extreme islam. Then again why is it there are plenty of young muslims waiting to fight us whenever we have a demo. There not taliban. There racist cnuts and so is there whole religion. Maybe you have made a "terrible mistake" by signing up to our forum. i mean wtf all you had to do is put an email address in and a password. Its not like you even been to a demo is it. Instead you come on here and tell a valued member to LEAVE THE GAY ISSUE ALONE.
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Sharia will be the death of me

Sharia Law = My Death

Sharia Law will kill me


These have the effect of leaving the reason indeterminate (sexuality? infidelity? spreading mischief in the land? blasphemy?) Let them work it out....

As to the gay thing - I did recently have to advise a group allied to EDL that they should have NOTHING to do with Christian Voice. That organisation blames homos for the islamisation of europe, and sides with the muslims and the ugandans when it comes to the summary execution of homos.

There are some christian fanatics about in this country. But as far as I can see none of them are advocating (apart perhaps from Christian Voice) the murder of gay people.

I see the leaders of all the christian churches as traitors to christianity. Whenever they claim some liturgical basis for what is their own unchristian and rank hatred, they cite Leviticus. However, the same parts of Leviticus also rail against shellfish, but you never see these people condemning restaurants with seafood platters, or protesting outside Asda because they sell frozen prawns.
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I've seen Peter Tatchell using 'queer' in a positive way, so how about:

Quran Kills Queers

"There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is England." - Sir Winston Churchill
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everyone suffers with islamic dictatorship
government covers up muslim kidnaps in England
child abuse encouraged
women are puppets on sharia strings

oh i could go on and on etc etc
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No Shariah here! Equality for all under the Law.
Political Correctness is a gift from Allah
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WHY DOES ALLAH HATE ME?

SHARIA LOVES WELL HUNG GAYS

GAYS MUST DIE, PEDOPHILES ARE ENCOURAGED
NO THANKS

KEEP SHARIA IN THE DARK AGES

I LIKE MY FREEDOM, ALLAH WANTS IT
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How about:

Your a Kuffur too.

Kuffur = "cattle to be culled".
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I agree with KNUCKLES : what does islam think of gays?: On the back of the banner :islam wants all gays killed.
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Why don't you put "Kill all gays and Kuffars",on one side.And when the police rush over to arrest you,turn the banner round to read"Says Mohammed",and instead of arresting you the copper will say"oh right I thought that's what YOU was saying,it's ok then if it's Mo".
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"A Paedophile Says That Gays Should Die?

Do You Think This Is Acceptable?"

Or something like that? lol
Edited by DanDax1990, Dec 6 2010, 01:57 PM.
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Loyally I served!!
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I SLAM ISLAM: DEATH CULT

ISLAM: ROTTEN TO THE CORE

ISLAM: RELIGION GONE BAD

SICK ISLAM:
SICK SHARIA:
SICK DOGMA:
SICK OF IT HERE!

BIGGOTS OF ISLAM SHAME ON YOU

ENGLAND IS NO FRIEND OF ISLAM

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. Sir W.Churchill
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How about 'ISLAM IS GAY' on a rainbow flag?

It mocks Islam, shows our tolerance to homosexuals, makes a powerful statement and winds up he jidhadis :D
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Knuckles
Dec 6 2010, 02:41 AM
Put a question out there - let the public find out:

WHAT DOES ISLAM THINK OF GAYS?
The problem is, WHAT DOES CHRISTIANITY THINK OF GAYS?

Maybe it should be something along the lines of 'EDL welcomes Gay Muslims'

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Thanks to you all for your input! These suggestions have most appeal to me so far (apologies for not posting credits):

"the Koran says i should be killed"

"the koran wants me dead"

"under sharia law I would be killed"

"Islam wants gays dead"

"Gays Beware! Islam wants you dead!"
or
"Gay? Islam wants you dead"

"Gay = Dead Under Sharia Law"

"ISLAM: CONVERT OR DIE(/be killed)

"Sharia Law = My Death"

"Sharia Law will kill me"


Q's (only onw so far):
WHAT DOES ISLAM THINK OF GAYS


This is what I said in an earlier post:


"Remember folks, I need my message to be TRUE, ACCURATE and FACTUAL".

This is imperitive. If (for instance) it is TRUE, ACCURATE and FACTUAL to say (for example) "Islam is a violent cult" then thats fine by me IF THAT IS INDEED THE CASE.

If I make a statement that is not TRUE, ACCURATE and FACTUAL then I'll be at risk of being charged for 'inciting religious hatred' or something. However, if the statement is TRUE, ACCURATE and FACTUAL and I am charged for (for instance) 'inciting religious hatred' or something then I have no problem with this as I am telling the truth. I need to say something that is a point of fact.

Take this for example "WHY DOES ALLAH HATE ME". Fair enough at first glance but just because allah (or ham head?) wants me dead, does that truthfully, accurately and factually mean he 'hates' me? Maybe "WHY DOES ISLAM(or prophet ham head) HATE ME" is true? I don't know, I'm not the expert!. I know this is a technicality but my message needs bear the burdon of scrutiny!

Are there any more suggestions forthcomeing to help me in my quest for the 'killer' banner?

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"Do you think Islam is a religion of peace? If so, read the Quran!"

"Islam is a violent homophobic murderous sectarian religion"

"Islam, a religion of peace? Prove it!"

"Islam, the religion of hate"

"There's nothing peaceful about true Islam!"
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How about - "Lesbian(s) against Sharia Law".

Short, sharp and snappy. :)

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how about
ISLAM; GET BENT

pun intended :D
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what about " I'm Gay , I'm Proud but in Islam its not allowed "
EDL = United by friendship regardless of race or colour.

We may not see or speak to each other as much as we should , and we won't always agree on everything, but we WILL always pull together through thick and thin BECAUSE WE ARE FAMILY.
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The Koran. The Murderers Manual.
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Islam? Don't be gay!
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How about:

TAQIYYA
Instead
of the
TRUTH

It might get people thinking
Edited by dozyuk, Dec 6 2010, 10:03 PM.

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How about the nice quote from the Koran that you mentioned e.g. The Koran says..."I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers."

Quran 8:12, "The Spoils," Dawood, p. 177

You can find some good ones if you google under Koran quotes. Good hunting Christine.
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how about

EQUAL RIGHTS!!??
NOT UNDER
SHARIAH
Edited by Steve Freedom, Dec 6 2010, 10:10 PM.
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What about

Gay?
Islam
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Gay?
Muslims would love your head.
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I agree that a banner with a violent verse of the Quran on it would be a good idea.
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Dec 6 2010, 05:51 AM
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Very good. Really like this one.

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Dec 6 2010, 03:19 PM
I SLAM ISLAM: DEATH CULT

ISLAM: ROTTEN TO THE CORE

ISLAM: RELIGION GONE BAD

SICK ISLAM:
SICK SHARIA:
SICK DOGMA:
SICK OF IT HERE!

BIGGOTS OF ISLAM SHAME ON YOU

ENGLAND IS NO FRIEND OF ISLAM

Like this too!
ISLAM HATES HOMOS
EDL LOVES THEM

Edited by Anpaytoo, Dec 6 2010, 11:27 PM.
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It can be said that all religions don't like homosexuality, so the banner should concentrate on the fact that under sharia law you would be killed, thats the key difference with islam. Something like the pink one above or
I am Gay
Sharia Law = Death for me
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I still like

SHARIA LOVES WELL HUNG GAYS
with a photo of some dead gays swinging in the breeze.

It would make people think (because of the assosciations with the words ''well hung'') and it might make them look into it themselves.
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You should have a banner that is just a photo copy of a hateful banner that the muslims have used.

A banner inside a banner. Use there own words against them.
"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards

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hug a homo = EDL
Hang a homo = Islam

koran says
slay the gays

gay and proud i dont want to wear a shroud! (could use it as a chant)?

im gay and proud - not miserable in a shroud...
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Dec 7 2010, 12:12 AM
SHARIA LOVES WELL HUNG GAYS
I must admit, this one tickled ma a little. (When I say "tickled" I didn't mean.......)



I think we're slowly getting there but the jury's still out folks! :thanks:


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DEATH CULT ISLAM SAYS: KILL GAYS

ALLAH TO HOMOS: DIE

SHARIA ON GAYS: KISS KISS, BANG BANG

ACHMED SAYS TO QUEERS: I KEEL YOU!

BORN GAY?
CRIME UNDER SHARIA
PUNISHMENT: DEATH


PEDOPHILE WARLORD? YOU'RE A HOLY PROPHET
AUDIOPHILE GAYLORD? YOU'RE LIFE IS FORFEIT


MUSLIMS AND NAZIS AGREE:
GAYS MUST BE EXTERMINATED


GAY NOW? DIE LATER
SHARIA LAW IS COMING 4U

LESS GAYS, MORE PEDOS
MAKES ALLAH HAPPY



Hindu4EDL
Dec 7 2010, 01:26 AM


PEDOPHILE WARLORD? YOU'RE A HOLY PROPHET
AUDIOPHILE GAYLORD? YOU'RE LIFE IS FORFEIT

edit: YOUR LIFE
Edited by Hindu4EDL, Dec 7 2010, 01:29 AM.
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"If Islam only had 1,000 members, we would've branded it a criminal organization and a death cult, jailed its leaders, killed their terrorists and disbanded it for promoting hatred, polygamy, pedophilia, misogyny and waging war against non-muslims.

The day our civilization realizes this fact and isn't afraid to defend freedom/democracy, is the day this evil ideology will begin to be eliminated from humanity forever."-hindu4edl
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