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The homeless
Topic Started: Dec 5 2010, 12:47 PM (886 Views)
YoungSoulRebel
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scotsguy
Dec 6 2010, 09:58 PM
And Scotsguy i worked for Thames reach for 8 years and they're hostels and mainly full of Welsh,Scottish and Irish.

there is a big problem in london soul,as im sure your well aware off,i dont blame muslims i may add.
i found myself being homeless again in february this year,after i fell out with my boss,went to ealing council for help,and was basically told to f/off,your a single male,your not a priority!!!!....
if you pop down victoria st in westminster,then pop around the back of horseferry rd magistrates court one evening,then you will see how bad the problem is.

thank god for the passage!...
Hi Scots

I agree that if u are a single male then yes the council will turn you away as not being priority need. I see it every day as a street outreach worker. As the weather has turned below zero we are able to supply B and B payed for by the council but as soon as the temp rises to zero or above they have to leave.

Anyway I'm not going to bang on about this subject anymore because other's seem I obviously don't know my job or the current street culture.

But on a serious note Scots if you ever find yourself facing homelessness again let me know and I will do my best to help.
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We-Are-The-British
Dec 6 2010, 10:21 PM
How do you know? Can you post a link to back up your claims?
sorry British I can't this is from experience not research i'm afraid but give me a couple of days and I'll find something
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Capt Haddock
Dec 6 2010, 10:14 PM
aluman
Dec 6 2010, 10:11 PM
lionsingh
Dec 6 2010, 10:04 PM
Its not the immigrants fault that you were homeless.
They should,nt fcuking be here, we don,t want them fcuk them off back home.
Bang on the money

99.9% of the fcukers have travelled across the whole continent of Europe to get here, I wonder why? More to the point, if you love your country, you should fight to save it, not fcuking run away!
its about the cnuts that run are country importing votes coz they know that are people have had anuff of there lieing cheating ways
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Let's look at the main reason for the stupid numbers of homeless people on our streets.

Way back when, mentally ill people, including soldiers who were suffering from psychological effects of the traumas that they had faced, were considered a needy bunch and were looked after well in society. (Well is a comparative term of course.) The problem was that cost so much money that the MPs could see a time when their expense claims might be reduced to help compensate for this "waste" of money.

They couldn't just abandon them so they created a system called "care in the community". A way of dumping mentally ill and trtaumatised people out on the streets and spromising that they would be looked after by specialists who would be trained to work with street people.

Once the laws were passed... and the centres closed... the funding was withdrawn and we found that we had a veritable army of homeless people on the streets... many of whom have neither the mental capacity to care for themselves nor the intelligence to fin funding where ot might be available.

These people, including the soldiers, are of no further use to the government and so they are abandoned. Moved on every night from shop doorway to bridge and again to a different doorway seeking shelter wherever they can find it.

When a bright light invades their safe dark space they are forced to hide and cower deeper into the shadows and to scavenge for whatever food or acts of goodwill they can muster.

Strangeley this doesn't sound a million miles away from the life that some soldiers have faced when trying to survive behind enemy lines... except that this new unnamed army have no loved ones to return to, no government to provide funds. There is one direct comparison though...

Both armies are equally well equipped.
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scotsguy
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I agree that if u are a single male then yes the council will turn you away as not being priority need.

i actually came back to scotland soul,after leaving here to join army 30 years ago.
i was too proud to ask my friends in london for help.

even in scotland,you have to have a local connection in order to achieve priority homeless status!....
after 28 days,the local council will give you there assesment,and in my case,tried to refer me back to london,i got a solicitor involved,threatning to sue the council for breach of my human rights....it worked!,local council have agreed to give me 1 bedroom furnished flat after 9 months of living in hostel.

horrible thing is,ive seen at least 20 people with no local connection to area,or scotland,being housed before mee!...
in london there are very few flats......

id much rather have stayed in london,id lived there for 14 years,but i wasnt prepared to rough sleep in order to get a roof over my head.
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YoungSoulRebel
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Scots-well done for fighting the council and I'm glad you're ok now.
Ryder- yep I agree with your post.
Ash-on a serious note,Why don't you volunteer for a homeless org as you have the personal experience and passion to really help people.

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AshB1980
Dec 6 2010, 10:26 PM
We-Are-The-British
Dec 6 2010, 10:21 PM
How do you know? Can you post a link to back up your claims?
sorry British I can't this is from experience not research i'm afraid but give me a couple of days and I'll find something
It was the other guy that I was asking, not you mate.
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Ryder
Dec 6 2010, 10:36 PM
Let's look at the main reason for the stupid numbers of homeless people on our streets.

Way back when, mentally ill people, including soldiers who were suffering from psychological effects of the traumas that they had faced, were considered a needy bunch and were looked after well in society. (Well is a comparative term of course.) The problem was that cost so much money that the MPs could see a time when their expense claims might be reduced to help compensate for this "waste" of money.

They couldn't just abandon them so they created a system called "care in the community". A way of dumping mentally ill and trtaumatised people out on the streets and spromising that they would be looked after by specialists who would be trained to work with street people.

Once the laws were passed... and the centres closed... the funding was withdrawn and we found that we had a veritable army of homeless people on the streets... many of whom have neither the mental capacity to care for themselves nor the intelligence to fin funding where ot might be available.

These people, including the soldiers, are of no further use to the government and so they are abandoned. Moved on every night from shop doorway to bridge and again to a different doorway seeking shelter wherever they can find it.

When a bright light invades their safe dark space they are forced to hide and cower deeper into the shadows and to scavenge for whatever food or acts of goodwill they can muster.

Strangeley this doesn't sound a million miles away from the life that some soldiers have faced when trying to survive behind enemy lines... except that this new unnamed army have no loved ones to return to, no government to provide funds. There is one direct comparison though...

Both armies are equally well equipped.
The main reason is no houses and why ? even are own kids cant get a house and it just another way of killin off the white population coz are own kids cant breed and start new familys like they should be doin
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scotsguy
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good bunch of people who help ex army in london/scots=

scotscare in covent garden
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Everyone wants the best for our troops... and the politios are learning that.
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snidey
Dec 6 2010, 12:07 AM
charity should always begin at home

especially for those that have served this country only to have it slapped back in thier face

£40m to save pakistanis from flooding when it should have been spent here - fcuking disgrace
Spot on Kinsman! :england: :viking:
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We should be building more council houses and ending the right to buy which has reduced the availability of council housing, then it wouldn't need to be rationed.

I don't know why Labour didn't scrap right to buy when it had the chance to.

Alternatively the government could build a new council house for every one which is sold.
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uniondefender
Dec 7 2010, 10:33 AM
We should be building more council houses and ending the right to buy which has reduced the availability of council housing, then it wouldn't need to be rationed.

I don't know why Labour didn't scrap right to buy when it had the chance to.

Alternatively the government could build a new council house for every one which is sold.
I agree stop selling them and put are people first :O
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cutter
Dec 5 2010, 02:24 PM
wodin
Dec 5 2010, 01:27 PM
Almost 1 in 3 ex-sevicemen are living rough on our streets. They are almost always

on drink and/or drugs. My wife volunteers to go out with other like minded people

and take them blankets and hot food. I know that people always think of the homeless

at Christmas, but this goes on all year round. The lottery have been approached for grants

to buy derelict properties and turn them into stopover hostels and night shelters, but they

have been turned down because they cannot show that they help ethnic minorities as well as

westerners. I wrote to my MP about this in November, sadly I am still waiting for a reply!
I can absolutely confirm this after many years of volunteering and contributing to a homeless charity on the frontline. The whole situation is ruled by polititcal correctness.

There is only one class of people left on the streets in this country who are there not of their own free will, because all of the others have PC pressure groups. Only a single class are effectively allowed to 'slip through the net' because they can be ignored and no-one really gives a sh1t.

Guess which group it is?
hi there i think thats absolutly disgusting that the lottery wont help or giv funding and u think the mp wud b backing u considering these were part of the Mod protecting us and the country. am actually speechless !
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