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| St George UK | Dec 4 2010, 06:25 PM Post #1 |
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Just been and had a look on ADL (american defence league) forum, I think a lot of yanks need educating, some say the EDL in the UK are linked to the BNP, some say the brits are over reacting, have a look , see what you think. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 4 2010, 06:28 PM Post #2 |
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Where? Linky? |
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| Deleted User | Dec 4 2010, 06:36 PM Post #3 |
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I don't know who has the time to look at all these sites out there to be honest. Just checking out the forum and the jihad blogs is time consuming enough. I wouldn't worry too much with Septic Defence league, put a link on there to the forum. |
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| St George UK | Dec 4 2010, 06:37 PM Post #4 |
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Sorry don't know how to put up link Knuckles I googled american defence league that took me to there forum. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 4 2010, 06:59 PM Post #5 |
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I'd seen a few had been set up on Facebook ages back. One was by a chick named Jess who was cool, but she got a lot of sh1t from Tea Partyists & Republicans trying to take it over for their own ends. Others were set up by racists. I see there's one on FB now, but haven't looked into it much. The original DL is the best DL. ![]() St George: I hope it's not VNN. If I recall correctly, they're nazis. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 4 2010, 07:09 PM Post #6 |
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If that's what you googled it's probably the one Knuckle's says it is. George, have a look on Youtube for how to "copy and paste." ![]() Try this one: http://www.webmasternow.com/copyandpaste.html @ Knucles.
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| Deleted User | Dec 4 2010, 07:10 PM Post #7 |
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There was a good reason why I didn't post the link, Roobz.
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| St George UK | Dec 4 2010, 07:27 PM Post #8 |
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Yer sorry Kuuckles it is vnn was not aware it is Nazi sorry, ANDY WILDERS I do have a lot of time because I'm nearly 70 (bet I'm old enough to be your grandad) I can not go to demos (just wish I could)so I spend my time looking for any think that will be of interest for the EDL enough said, RUBY I will check u tube and learn how to put up a link. (only just learnt how to buy on- line from tescos) Thanks all |
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| Deleted User | Dec 4 2010, 07:34 PM Post #9 |
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Hey mate, it's not obvious from looking at the link from Google. I know about VNN, though. They're one of the 'dodgy operators' over here. All you need to do to put up a link is when you're at the page you want to link: Highlight the link (http etc) in the link bar at the top and copy (control-c). Come here and simply paste (control-v) with your text. The way the forum works, it automatically makes a clickable link to the site. |
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| St George UK | Dec 4 2010, 07:55 PM Post #10 |
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Thank you KNUCKLES and you RUBY I'l spend a bit of time learning from your avice to put up links, It's good to know there guys out there that think of our country like I do, Good on yer all We WILL win like we did in 1944/45 |
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| Deleted User | Dec 4 2010, 08:03 PM Post #11 |
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Cool. Add some links in here as a test, maybe? |
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| tektwo | Dec 4 2010, 08:23 PM Post #12 |
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I joined the American Defense League yesterday... Been chatting up a few of the members and they had nothing negative to say about the EDL. The American Defense League is just getting started. I think there are about 4000 active members who are associated with other group's in the US. They are trying to tap into the Tea Party movement with over 50 million people. I am going to have dinner in NY with a few members next week. |
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"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards Nizom, Novil, Ne'haveh Dugma VeNenaze'ah - We shall Innovate, Lead, Set an Example and Win. - My Paratrooper Unit Motto | |
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| St George UK | Dec 4 2010, 08:57 PM Post #13 |
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KNUCKLES just found this hope the link works. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/andrew-gilligan/7908273/Police-Muslim-forum-headed-by-Islamic-extremist.html |
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| Deleted User | Dec 4 2010, 09:00 PM Post #14 |
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Nice. The link works. You've done it right.
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| Deleted User | Dec 4 2010, 09:02 PM Post #15 |
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Wow, look at you it didn't take you long to get the hang of that, did it? ![]() Well done, George! |
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| St George UK | Dec 4 2010, 09:15 PM Post #16 |
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No it diden't did it THANKS to you guys, cant wait to find somethink worth link'en to you guys, thanks again all Hi TEKTWO I'm like you I'm new to the EDL, I googled ADL but read from a VVN forum which I now understand have no links to your forum. Good luck with your supporters and I hope you grow as quick as the EDL here in the uk. Enjoy your dinner next week. Edited by St George UK, Dec 4 2010, 09:25 PM.
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| ramblingrebel | Dec 4 2010, 09:26 PM Post #17 |
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Hiya george. Nice to know there is some 'old' blood out there who support the EDL. It might sound like a daft request, but I believe you have loads to offer us young un's. Would it be possible for you to compare the place where you live now, to how it used to be back in the day. Some of us have never knew any different to what we see now! Sometimes when people hark on about the 'good 'ole days' most have no idea what they are onabout. Perhaps if you could throw a few paragraphs together to educate some of us about the England that was once a great place to live. The community spirit that once existed ect. I myself can barely remember this place and I'm in my 30's. There are some who will be even younger who will have had to live the struggle since day 1. I for one would be grateful for any input you give. cheers. ste |
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| KELTICBROTHER | Dec 4 2010, 10:23 PM Post #18 |
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http://www.facebook.com/AmericanDefenceLeague i love this site and the cartoons in the photo section are great |
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| St George UK | Dec 4 2010, 10:41 PM Post #19 |
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RAMBLINGREBEL: Yer when I was 18 (teddy boy days) There was no m.o.ts, no seat belts, no breath tests, no guns, stabings were very very rare, no MUSLIMS, we did have some Jamaicans and some Italians come over (I had a few Jamaican friends & good lads they were) but they all mixed in and they were grateful to be here, If I had such a thing as a computer back in them days and found this forum I would have called you all a load of nutters : Muslims taken over our country! I would have said who the fcuk are muslims, But saying that we was warned back in the late 60s (Enoch powell) Thank God you guys are learning from our mistakes and hopefully change things. I think most of the police you guys see at demos (not all of them)are on your side but they need there jobs, Please come back Churchhill we need you once more |
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| penningtonuk | Dec 4 2010, 11:25 PM Post #20 |
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from http://www.facebook.com/AmericanDefenceLeague |
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| grendal | Dec 4 2010, 11:47 PM Post #21 |
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Like George I'm of [almost ] his generation, and yes there was some trouble but it was confined to the little groups ie, teddy boys. You could walk down a street and see a bunch of them hanging out but you could walk past them without fear of them attacking you, they mainly fought amongst themselves and had no interest in anyone else. I remember a murder of a young girl [edwina taylor?] at the Crystal Palace in the late fities/early sixties and it was such a huge news story especially in the local area. Nowadays you read of murders/rapes/stabbings/shootings and you almost take no notice of it because it is so prevelant. Of course there was crime but nowhere near as bad as it is now. You could walk anywhere on your own at any time of day or night and not feel afraid. You could speak your mind on just about anything without fearing the thought police we have today, if you were out of line in what you said about anyone, you would be hauled up by people around you and told you were out of order. There are so many things to say on this subject it makes me angry to think what we have lost. |
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| St George UK | Dec 5 2010, 01:22 AM Post #22 |
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GRENDAL: No take-a-ways in them days. expresso cafes, pie/sausage & mash,jelled ells, and good old fish/chips all run by londoners, I just hope nobody comes on here and tell us the fish could be halal or is that just meat, do love me fish en chips,I'v seen a video on youtube of east london now, still carn't belive it, |
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| hooah9422 | Dec 5 2010, 01:38 AM Post #23 |
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i dont want to be in the american edl! i already know their going to be teaparty assholes. |
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| tektwo | Dec 5 2010, 06:24 AM Post #24 |
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hooah9422, that makes complete sense. good thing most americans do not think like you. do you even know anything about the tea party or the american defense league? |
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"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards Nizom, Novil, Ne'haveh Dugma VeNenaze'ah - We shall Innovate, Lead, Set an Example and Win. - My Paratrooper Unit Motto | |
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| grendal | Dec 5 2010, 10:07 PM Post #25 |
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Don't talk a load of twaddle, do your research before making comments like that. It's Edit like you that alienate other people, especially if they are from distant shores and support us in our fight. The whole of the Western World is begining to wake up to the threat of Islam, so being civil to supporters to the cause is No' 1 priority from wherever they hail from. Keep it civil, please. Ruby. Edited by Ruby, Dec 5 2010, 10:48 PM.
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| Deleted User | Dec 5 2010, 10:40 PM Post #26 |
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He's got a point though. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that, but other than a healthy distrust and contempt of Islam, I have nothing in common with the Tea Part nutjobs. I'll stand with them on this issue, but on almost everything else I'm their polar opposite. |
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| Fordman | Dec 6 2010, 02:50 AM Post #27 |
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The Tea party in the US has more in common with the EDL than you may think. It is not one group but is made up of many small groups of people that believe that their government no longer represents the will or wishes of the people it is meant to serve. The media hates the tea party movement because the mainstream media is predominantly socialist in their beliefs and therefore believes in big government. Beacuse of this any media coverage of tea party rally's will be slanted if not fabricated to show any members of the tea party to be right wing nut cases, much like what is done to the EDL in the UK. Don't buy into it! |
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| Deleted User | Dec 6 2010, 02:54 AM Post #28 |
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I find the tea party movement interesting. I despise some aspects of Republicans. Especially those from the Bush era. They really did wreck our country. I blame them and not Obama. Of course I don't like what Obama is doing but all of this really can't be blamed on him, he's only continuing with it. Anyways, I like that the Tea Party has taken out Republicans ... makes me believe they are legit and not just an angry group of republicans angry at the dems in power. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 6 2010, 02:56 AM Post #29 |
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The Tea Party has been hijacked by both the mainstream politicians (Palin) and the mainstream media (Beck) and those involved are falling for it. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 6 2010, 03:13 AM Post #30 |
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Agreed... Palin and Beck are the tools of the mainstream to hijack it... don't let the edl get hijacked all by the mainstream... this is why the edl must never get into politics. |
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| tektwo | Dec 6 2010, 03:52 AM Post #31 |
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You guys really know nothing about the Tea Party. If you are going to bash it please at least have the courtesy to say what about the movement bothers you. That way people like myself and others who are affiliated with the Tea Party can respond. You guys sound like the UAF with your stereotypical comments about an organization that you really know nothing about. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 6 2010, 04:04 AM Post #32 |
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If you represent them, then that statement pretty much tells me what I wanna know. How to lose all credibility in one quick post....... |
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| tektwo | Dec 6 2010, 04:17 AM Post #33 |
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How does that lose credibility? You attack an organization without stating what you dislike about it. Stereotypical remarks are made casting all of the Tea Party in one light. Somehow the Tea Party is all about Beck and Palin? So the million's of American's who believe in the movement are just foot notes? You guys have Nazi's marching at your rallies, does that mean they represent you? No. Just like the Tea Party you are average people looking out for there family and the value's that made your respective countries great. You criticize the UAF for making broad statements about the EDL without actually getting to know your organization. How do I lose credibility by pointing out the hypocrisy? Edited by tektwo, Dec 6 2010, 04:24 AM.
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"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards Nizom, Novil, Ne'haveh Dugma VeNenaze'ah - We shall Innovate, Lead, Set an Example and Win. - My Paratrooper Unit Motto | |
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| Deleted User | Dec 6 2010, 04:28 AM Post #34 |
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I was stating facts. Were the two people I mentioned notable speakers at the recent rally down in DC or were they not? Are they not individuals involved in mainstream institutions? Are they not trying to represent the Tea Party? Anyway, it's good, in my view, to have some level of skepticism and to question things. Edit: fcuk it. I'm UAF. Twat. |
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| tektwo | Dec 6 2010, 04:45 AM Post #35 |
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umm, the rally was not about the Tea Party, in fact the National Tea Party Leadership criticized beck's 8/28 rally and signed a letter stating that it did not represent the views of the Tea Party. On another issue, I did not call you UAF... I was using what is called an analogy to point out that attacking an entire organization (especially one that has many members that speak highly of the EDL) because of two people is what the UAF does to you guys for Nazi's showing up to rally's. Of course it is good to question things and have skepticism, that is why I find it odd that you are getting so defensive about something that can be spoken about rationally. If you choose to take offense because of a discussion that is your business, I certainly did not intend to offend you. But I assume you would be pissed if someone said something similar about the EDL. Also there is no need for name calling sir... Edited by tektwo, Dec 6 2010, 04:47 AM.
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"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards Nizom, Novil, Ne'haveh Dugma VeNenaze'ah - We shall Innovate, Lead, Set an Example and Win. - My Paratrooper Unit Motto | |
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| Deleted User | Dec 6 2010, 11:42 AM Post #36 |
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A lot of Tea Party members are ignorant, xenophobic racists, who reckon you can solve the deficit by lowering taxes. Herbert Hoover tried doing that in 1930, look where it got America back then. |
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| grendal | Dec 6 2010, 03:55 PM Post #37 |
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Although I'm new to the site and am quite able to take criticism, I found that Ruby ticking me off for my comments was a bit over the top considering what some others on here say about anyone/thing. when did the word idiot become so defamatory to deserve being censored? |
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| Wade | Dec 6 2010, 08:25 PM Post #38 |
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A lot of Tea Party members are ignorant, xenophobic racists Why does that sound familiar? |
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Only 35% of them reckon Black people are capable of being hard working. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 6 2010, 09:06 PM Post #40 |
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Insulting somebody simply because you disagree with them is a really bad thing to do in my opinion. |
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| Wade | Dec 6 2010, 09:06 PM Post #41 |
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I know nothing of the tea party so cant agree or disagree with you. i just felt your attacks were very "general" and had been aimed at us in the past. |
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Yeah well, unlike the accusations aimed at us, these ones are, at least broadly, accurate. |
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| Fordman | Dec 7 2010, 02:23 AM Post #43 |
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| tektwo | Dec 7 2010, 02:37 AM Post #44 |
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Wow, that is pretty hypocritical... I find it odd that I would hear these comments from members of the EDL seeing as they know how badly the media can misrepresent something. But anyway, it does not matter... People are free to think and say whatever they want. We all do not need to agree on everything. I just wish some of you would be a little more open minded when it comes to the Tea Party considering that most of there belief's are shared by most members of the EDL. With the exception of Tax Cuts and Limited Government. |
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| uk4ever | Dec 7 2010, 08:12 AM Post #45 |
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is the ADL just made up of American Indians? It's about time they had their sayexplain the tea-partys views on abortion and human rights pls.. shared with us???? u moron right-wing opportunistic front for big bisiness, just another republican party Edited by uk4ever, Dec 7 2010, 08:14 AM.
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| US Infidel | Dec 8 2010, 11:22 PM Post #46 |
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I agree. There is a huge misunderstanding with our beliefs. I learned this today when I told a friend that I joined an EDL website. His response to me was "But dude, they are skinheads"............... OFF TOPIC, but still a bit OT :lol: The first thing I could tell when I joined here is that A LOT of you on this forum are very wise/educated with all of the topics on here. Most Americans don;t have a clue on what is really going on or have a clue on the severity of the jihadist threat/ideology. Now, I don't blame Americans themselves for not being "hep" to what is going on here today. Our academia, intelligentsia and media is highly influenced by Saudi/Wahaabist funds and a vast majority of Americans have been taught a false variety of Mid Eastern studies, Jihadism and Islamist terrorism. Some of us are choosing to learn more today. I myself have been reseaarching these entities for the last 10 years. I really got interested in it when I was studying at PITT Johnstown. I was in Math class the morning of Sept. 11th when flight 93 flew over our campus and crashed not too far away in Shanskville. Another thing to note. You guys/gals are widely exposed to Islamic culture and muslim teachings. The majority of Americans have never even seen a Muslim here. There is really only one epicenter of Muslim population and that is in Dearborne, Michigan. I would hope that most of the people in that area have a better understanding of what the "truth" really is and what is really going on today. I have yet to visit the ADL site but, may I make a suggestion?? Would there be any EDL members that would be willing to post some links or info from this site onto the ADL's site?? Especially the forum about Islam in itself?? That would be an EPIC transition in Americans education/understanding on the Middle East. Feed the minority the truth and it will spread to the majority. Hopefully they would take some of that info and pass it on in class rooms, media blogs etc etc. I REALLY THINK THAT WOULD BE HUGE!! I just searched for the ADL and it appears that the domain is up for sale?? hmmmmmmmm....Time to start a new chapter perhaps?? Edited by US Infidel, Dec 8 2010, 11:31 PM.
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This bollox about the tea party being racist is just as daft as the UAF calling the EDL racist. The tea party are fundimentaly made up of concervative utra-capitalist Mostly middle americans. Many do have strong opinions about immigration just like many EDL (myself included) do. We all know how the left work and they will pull BS out the air to make a "anti-working class" organisation look bad. I watched the BBC show about them two months ago about the tea party and all the through the one-sided bias and constant 'tea party are racist' retoric shone through constantly. They're were about 3/4 acts of light racism with dramatic music and typical presenter BS. In one incident an American passer-by wrote on a tea-party tour bus 'Obama, go back to kenya'. Racist yes. Echos of the third Reich? Pftt... Didn't stop the BBC reporting it as such Though.. The tea party has as much to do with Race as the EDL... fcuk all... |
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| KELTICBROTHER | Dec 8 2010, 11:48 PM Post #48 |
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i cant remember the last time i saw a skinhead anywhere |
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| tektwo | Dec 9 2010, 01:20 AM Post #49 |
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thanks for the lovely introduction... haha, it's always fun being called a moron by people like you. american indians have no voice? where are you getting your information from? american indians are one of the most influential, wealthiest groups of people in the united states. they actually have more lobbyist's working for them than the oil industry. so bro i think you are a little mistaken. tea party has no views on abortion, if you actually looked at the Tea Party members who got elected they are split down the middle on the abortion issue. just like america. tea party views on human right? what does that even mean? do they believe in torturing terrorists? i would hope so. right wing opportunistic? - i would hope so, i am right wing. i believe in capitalism, not socialism. front for big business? - what does that mean exactly? just another republican party - considering the tea party ran AGAINST the republican party and that almost all of the tea party is made up of moderates, i think you are a little mistaken. considering how angry you get, i suppose you are mistaken quite a lot. Edited by tektwo, Dec 9 2010, 01:26 AM.
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"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards Nizom, Novil, Ne'haveh Dugma VeNenaze'ah - We shall Innovate, Lead, Set an Example and Win. - My Paratrooper Unit Motto | |
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| English Badman | Dec 9 2010, 02:53 AM Post #50 |
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Most Americans hate the British in my opinion but I know a couple American girls who love my English accent. "Your accent is so hot!" I love the way they say "hot" and my name "miiichaaeell" LOL ![]()
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Be England what she will, with all her faults, she is my Country still - Charles Churchill
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