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Mosque plans are given the green light
Topic Started: Dec 4 2010, 06:59 AM (891 Views)
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Mosque plans are given the green light

iSLAMIC leaders are jubilant after controversial plans to build a new mosque in Eastbourne were given the go ahead this week.

The new state of the art three-storey building will be built on the site of the existing Eastbourne Islamic Cultural Centre in Ashford Square, which is no longer fit for purpose.

But there were angry and unpleasant scenes from protesters at a meeting on Tuesday night to consider the plans with many shouting and heckling during the meeting. There was a strong police presence at the Town Hall and security inside the meeting room.

One woman was thrown out after repeatedly shouting. Those against the rebuild said the area would resemble Islamabad and said town planners had made a huge mistake.

Another woman shouted, “Shame on you” and a man called the councillors a “bunch of muppets”.

The application has been highly emotive and challenging since it was first submitted to the council’s planning committee. Various meetings have been held between mosque leaders and council officers to find a suitable design and various events staged to interact with the community.

Some residents living in and around Ashford Square opposed to the plans fear the building is an over-development of the site, will lead to increased traffic and parking problems in the area and overshadow houses in the street.

Concerns have also been expressed about asbestos in the building, which will be removed in conjunction with the Health and Safety Executive, and bats roosting underneath the railway bridge.

Lisa Rawlinson, the town’s senior planner, told councillors at the meeting there had been a 184-signature petition and 40 letters against the application with a 401-signature petition and 61 letters in favour.

The current mosque next to the railway line is a former social club which leaders say is like a dilapidated old army hut.

The new mosque will have prayer halls for both men and women, facilities for children, a kitchen, Imam’s room, a library and classroom.

There will be a limit on 100 people in the building during weekly Friday prayers, no Call to Prayer, and arrangements are being made to lease parking spaces in the nearby Junction Road car park.

Martin Relf, chair of Churches Together in Eastbourne, said, “The current building is well past its sell-by date and conditions are poor and cramped. The new building will make maximum use of the current footprint of land. It’s not going to be Islamabad or Riad transported to Eastbourne.”

Councillors agreed to give the plans the green light by a vote of six to one with only Meads Conservative Barry Taylor voting against the application, saying it was an over-development of the site.

The rebuild will now go ahead and mosque leaders will contribute towards a Travel Plan and help fund an investigation into introducing a one-way traffic system in the area.

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http://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/news/local-news/mosque_plans_are_given_the_green_light_1_1759846
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Poor, Eastbourne...God help us.
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THIS ABOMINATION MUST BE STOPPED! :burka: :allah: :england: :pig: :pig1: :templar:
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Things need to change, they have to change. To long they have been aloud to spread hate around England, well i say its about time England stood united and said enough is enough. NS
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Once again the minority get favour over the majority. Whatever happened to democracy in this country ffs.

It's about time we visited the south coast, either flash or official. ;)
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Could'nt agree more Kinswoman! :england: :taliban: :knight: :viking: :england:
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Dec 4 2010, 09:08 AM
Once again the minority get favour over the majority. Whatever happened to democracy in this country ffs.

It's about time we visited the south coast, either flash or official. ;)
your right mate
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It's a fcuking disgrace.

All these little local councils are so short sighted, if they all opened their eyes they'd see the bigger picture. After the muzzies have dominated the country, these local councillors will be given the 'big E' and told where to go in no uncertain terms by the muzzies.

Open your bleedin' EYES.

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Councillors agreed to give the plans the green light by a vote of six to one with only Meads Conservative Barry Taylor voting against the application, saying it was an over-development of the site.

Barry Taylor is a sensible man.
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looks like its eastbourne for a weekend in 2011 :D
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Eastbourne would be a nice demo. This is the start of the rot for eastbourne. If the people of eastbourne stopped patronising muslim business, and purchasing services from the muslim population the muslim population would leave.

They should also vote for anyone but the councillors who sanctioned this monstrocity.

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If the conditions were so bad in the old place why couldn't they just re furnish it? Who its paying for this? Its all about supply and demand, expect a major influx.
And it was the fanatics shouting democracy hypocrisy, they benefit more from this government than we do, pandering to every whim.
if we keep up the awareness and support will grow for us.
Let's pay eastbourne a visit, and I'd love some fish nd chips whilst down there.
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Councillors agreed to give the plans the green light by a vote of six to one with only Meads Conservative Barry Taylor voting against the application, saying it was an over-development of the site.

Barry Taylor is a sensible man.

The guy's right.

I've had a look on Google Earth and a virtual wander via Sreet View. The site is tightly sandwiched between a railway line and nice looking, apparently well maintained victorian terraced housing in a narrow street. The site, having a road bridge over the railway line on its boundary, is quite long & thin in it's proportions but the site is also quite small.

I won't be at all surprised to see another case of 'white flight' preceded by plummeting property prices, as is the way in these matters. It doesn't bode well for the local residents at all.

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just like fifa , these bribes that go around , are bullying the poor into a communist way of life .
there is no democracy in the western world really
votes versus money
the voter will lose due to the greed and moral-less bastards who have the power to determine our ways of life
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thing is .. how many of the locals voted and or voice an objection were ignored ?

the councils are having their pockets filled with saudi money, and passing through planning applications without proper consultation with the local populace, it concerns me the the voice of the majority is dismissed in favour of the minority ... we are meant to be living in a democratic country, where one is able to challenge decisions and be heard ...

Locals need to use their votes next election .. and make them count ...
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Locals should be given a vote on the construction of this Mosque, not the councillors, as it is not the councillors that will be affected by this Mosque.
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"There will be a limit on 100 people in the building during Friday prayers, no call to prayer"
dont fcuking believe it they always come out with sh1t like this at first, once its up and running then they will be wanting the add-ons.
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Its position in the Town would suggest like most of central Eastbourne, it has yellow lines and parking permit bays etc'.
If this is built you will see what happens on Fridays when they go to kiss the floor, just like they do in places like Croydon. There the traffic wardens turn a blind eye to them parking all over the place/pavements.
But if old whitey does it out side a church, a ticket appears by magic on the windscreen.
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I'm not so sure that it is always a case of the majority being ignored. Look at the amount of signatures on the petitions etc... Should be more on there than that! I think this is more about awareness and peoples ignorance and complacency. If the people of Eastbourne had the balls to stand up for themselves it would help!! Look at how many people actually vote or protest in this country. If it doesn't hit them financially then they don't bother with it and just complain to themselves. Things are changing though, for example the Students protesting, the EDL protesting etc... Good on the councillor who voted against it, he clearly has some integrity to fight for what he believes in.
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I'm not so sure that it is always a case of the majority being ignored. Look at the amount of signatures on the petitions etc... Should be more on there than that! I think this is more about awareness and peoples ignorance and complacency. If the people of Eastbourne had the balls to stand up for themselves it would help!! Look at how many people actually vote or protest in this country. If it doesn't hit them financially then they don't bother with it and just complain to themselves. Things are changing though, for example the Students protesting, the EDL protesting etc... Good on the councillor who voted against it, he clearly has some integrity to fight for what he believes in.
is it ignorance or fear
a lot of people are in fear depending on the area they live in
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I'm not so sure that it is always a case of the majority being ignored. Look at the amount of signatures on the petitions etc... Should be more on there than that!

You make a good point but I'm wondering whether the 'against' folk are the very local ones who'll be most affected & directly affected on a daily basis whilst those agreeing to the mosque plans come from a much larger geographical area.

I'd be too easy for the 'for' crew to amass signatures during meets & attendances with their families being 'encouraged' to support the plan.

If it goes ahead, that part of town will be consigned to the dump to be followed by neighbouring areas.

Just think: once 'they' have the town and council under their control they'd even be voting for their own seaport with no immigration controls! ;) ^_^

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Turkey's voting for Christmas springs to mind.

As Christine has said, once the muzzies are established and they have seats in the council, then a muslim mayor is voted in by a very large muslim community in the future, I ain't going to write what I think but we are being pushed so hard and it's only going to end up one way. It will either be stand or submit and I am not submitting to no muzzy fcuker. NS
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(First, thanks to Blue (and others) for keeping us updated with the mosque news etc....)

Current Name: EASTBOURNE ISLAMIC CULTURAL CENTRE
Ashford Square, Eastbourne BN21 3TX
Chairty Number: 803184  
 
Other names: 
SOUTH EAST ISLAMIC SOCIETY (EASTBOURNE) (Old Name )
EASTBOURNE ISLAMIC CENTRE (Old Name )
EASTBOURNE MOSQUE (Working Name )
Treasurer:
MR BHYE MOHAMMAD SHERIFF KOOMAR
Trustees:
MR AZIZUL ISLAM
MR KHALIL EL-HADDAD
DR MIRZA ILYAS BAIG
DR TALEB DURGAHEE

So, where are they getting the funds to build a new mosque?

They have been late with all their accounts since 2007, not submitted their Accounts or Annual Returns for the year end 2009.

From their records they have a habit of spending or overspending more than their funds raised.

If a charity has £10,000.00 or less in their charity, then they don't have to submit Accounts but they do have to submit their Annual Returns. If that is the reason they have not submitted their Accounts and they have only £10,000.00 in the kitty, then where are the funds coming from for the new mosque?

Where has the sudden injection of funds come from?

Accounts for 31 Aug 2009: 157 days overdue
Annual Return for 31 Aug 2009: 157 days overdue


Financial year end----Income ---Spending-------Accounts received------------Annual Return/Annual/Update rec'd

31 Aug 2009------------------------------------------------------Not rec'd (157 days overdue)---Not rec'd (157 days overdue)
31 Aug 2008 --------------£20,857------£20,668-----------06 Oct 2009 (98 days late)-------06 Oct 2009 (98 days late)
31 Aug 2007--------------£13,900-------£17,106-----------06 Aug 2008 (37 days late)------06 Aug 2008 (37 days late)
31 Aug 2006--------------£18,969-------£24,588-----------08 Jun 2007---------------------------08 Jun 2007
31 Aug 2005--------------£14,724-------£16,998-----------31 Jan 2006---------------------------31 Jan 2006

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Sheriff Koomar, treasurer, said the mosque relies totally on donations from the Islamic community and the rebuild would be funded by local mosque users.

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and on another website:

We also have a large student population and professionals from different countries mainly from the Middle East, playing an important role in the Mosque.

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Article from 2003 refers to the same mosque, just that they have changed their names a couple of times! See previous post for name changes:


MOSQUE CLEANER ON TERROR CHARGE
Published on Fri Dec 05 08:30:25 GMT 2003

A CLEANER from Eastbourne's Mosque has appeared in a London court on a terrorism charge.

Algerian-born Nourreddinne Mouleff, 36, of Pevensey Road, opened a number of bank accounts using a fake French identification account, it is claimed.

He then allegedly bought goods before claiming cash refunds, Bow Street Magistrates Court heard.

The North African is charged under Section 57 of the Terrorism Act which relates to being in possession of articles in connection with an act of terrorism.

Mouleff is accused of raising cash for the purposes of terrorism and charged with conspiring with others to defraud banks of large sums of money.

Five other suspects arrested in Eastbourne are still being questioned by police in relation to the fraud. They are North African and in their mid 20s. Two are from Hastings, two from London, the other from Eastbourne.

All six arrests were the result of a three-day secret investigation into large-scale cheque and credit card fraud at the Pevensey Road flat.

District Judge Timothy Worman remanded Mouleff in custody to appear at the Old Bailey for a preliminary hearing next Wednesday (December 10).

Bearded Mouleff, wearing grey trousers and an orange sweatshirt, was aided by an interpreter through the hearing.

Five feet three inches tall, he was dwarfed by two burly security officers.

Police say there is no connection in this case and last week's anti-terrorism raids in Manchester, Birmingham and Gloucester. Officers said explosives were found in the Gloucester raid.

But there have been reports that police have been investigating links between the suspects and al Qaida, the group behind the September 11 and Bali bombings.

Assistant Chief Constable Nigel Yeo said, 'At this stage there is no connection with the arrests madew under the Terrorism Act elsewhere in the country.

'This is a Sussex police operation but we have been working closely with officers from the Metropolitan's anti-terrorist branch.'

Under the Terrorism Act, suspects can be held for questioning for up to seven days before they are charged.

Mouleff appeared before Bow Street magistrates on Wednesday.EASTBOURNES new police chief has tried to reassure the public about the threat of terrorism in the town.

The news that a cleaner at the town's mosque in Ashford Square had been charged with a terrorism offence came as a bombshell to residents.

But Chief Inspector Peter Mills claims that there is 'no specific terrorism issue that the town need have concerns about.'

In an open letter, he says he has met with the black and ethnic minority to discuss the situation and the effect it might have on their community.

The letter runs as follows:

'Many of you will be aware of the recent six arrests in Eastbourne for alleged offences under the Terrorism Act.

'Yesterday (Wednesday) a man living in Eastbourne from Pevensey Road was charged under section 57 of the Act which is connected with the possession of certain articles which give rise that the possession was for a purpose connected with the commission, preparation or instigation of an act of terrorism. He was additionally charged with a fraud based offence.

'He appeared at Bow Street Court today which is standard in the UK for persons suspected of such offences.

'Another five people remain in custody under the Terrorism Act under Section 17 which basically means that they have been suspected of involvement in the attempt to finance an act of terrorism.

'I have undertaken a community impact assessment in relation to the arrests and its effect particularly on the Black and Minority Ethnic community of the town and have been in close contact with both the investigation and opinion formers from the Black and Minority Ethnic community. I continue to meet with them.

'As a result of these arrests and all other enquiries there is no specific terrorism issue that Eastbourne as a town need have concerns about. It was raised by the business community with me last night and I gave them a similar response.

'Operation Confront, an unconnected operation, and its increased visibility continues to operate in the town with road checks and highly visible officers. This will continue beyond Christmas so should give increased public confidence.'EASTBOURNE MP Nigel Waterson is to table questions in the House of Common about Mouleff.

The Tory MP says the government has serious questions to answer about the North African and how he came to be living in the the town.

He also wants to know what Mouleff's status is and whether he is an asylum seeker.

Mr Waterson said, 'This man's presence in Eastbourne raises a number of serious issues that ministers must answer.

'I want to know how this man came to be in the country. Is he a British citizen? Is he an asylum seeker who has been given leave to stay in the UK? Or is he a failed asylum seeker?

'Ministers, who notoriously seem unable to answer questions about asylum seekers in Eastbourme and Sussex, must come up with clear answers to these questions as a matter of urgency.'

Stephen Lloyd, the Liberal Democrats' prospective parliamentary candidate for Eastbourne, said he was 'gobsmacked' by this week's developments.

He said, 'What this does demonstrate clearly is that the war against Iraq is having repercussions at home. Mr Blair stood in the House and said the war would not increase the risk of terrorism in the UK. This is one of many examples that proves that that isn't the case.'

Backing police and the security services, Mr Lloyd added, 'This is only an allegation at present but if the case is proved, then I think the full weight of the law should be brought against anyone living in Eastbourne or other parts of the country who in any way poses a threat to the people of Eastbourne or our national security.'

Ken Kent, chairman of the RAFA club, said 'I am very surprised it's happening in Eastbourne. It's unsual to be happening in a town like Eastbourne.'AS the Herald went to press, police were still questioning the other five terrorism suspects arrested in Eastbourne.

But time was running out as officers had until last (Thursday) night to bring charges against four of them.

Under the Terrorism Act, the police are allowed to question suspects for a maximum of seven days.

Four were arrested on Thursday evening while the other was arrested on Friday morning.

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.This is probably stupid, but, shouldn't there be a way of stopping this until it is looked at in the national level e.g in the nations best interest? local level politics is the problem.

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Nice one, fern, you certainly know how to dig the dirt!

Why do so many islamic places show up as charities? Is this some sort of tax dodge, a way of avoiding scrutiny or a devious way to attract/scrounge more money?

Anyone have any answers?
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Nice one, fern, you certainly know how to dig the dirt!

Why do so many islamic places show up as charities? Is this some sort of tax dodge, a way of avoiding scrutiny or a devious way to attract/scrounge more money?

Anyone have any answers?
thats a very good question Christine, makes you think doesnt it..
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If it looks like it and feels like it, lets call it what it is " GENOCIDE " NS
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@ Fern (wont quote as it will make this post massive lol) but Wow! well done for finding all that :)
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Nice one, fern, you certainly know how to dig the dirt!

Why do so many islamic places show up as charities? Is this some sort of tax dodge, a way of avoiding scrutiny or a devious way to attract/scrounge more money?

Anyone have any answers?
Most of them are listed as charities, and some of them are listed as companies as well as charities.

The Charity Commission is not the best at investigating charities, they appear to be quite lackadaisical, the same applies to the Financial Services Authority (FSA).

(Nothing special about the info gleaned, it is all there (publicly) at your fingertips, at no cost to you, only your time. If you feel the urge to do a little digging yourself, which would be great, pm me for links etc.)

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Although I have lived in South London for 20 years Im Eastbourne born and bred and shocked to see this thread. I know the Ashford Road well and the description above is correct. Its well known that Eastboune has an elderley population who I know for a fact will be not just be horrified but also very stressed about this.
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Knotty, one of the trustees of this particular mosque actually runs Aston House Care Home (Eastbourne), you probably know that too.

Gawd, sorry (two posts) having difficulty online tonight
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I dont , but, will check it out , I have many many storng connections there. I bet though its won of the sub standard sh1t hols that just make minimum standards of care when the Inspector comes. Just a guess but ill check
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Perhaps a small and low key attendance with leaflets and mature EDL members might be the way to go here. NS.
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desade, your right and the " silver " support would be massive
"What is our policy?... To wage war against a monstrous tyranny, never surpassed in the dark lamentable catalogue of human crime. What is our aim?... Victory... Victory at all costs. Victory in spite of all terror. Victory, however long and hard the road may be. For without victory, there is no survival".

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It just takes the p!ss, there's already too many fkin mosques already, why not knock down EVERY mosque and build clinics, schools, rehab centres etc in their place.
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wow i went with my nan to eastbourne when i was a kid and its hard to imagine a mosque in such a place. just shows the muzzies are literally EVERYWHERE these days. shocking
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wow i went with my nan to eastbourne when i was a kid and its hard to imagine a mosque in such a place. just shows the muzzies are literally EVERYWHERE these days. shocking
I've only been to Eastbourne once and I know what you mean, it just doesnt seem the place for one
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greenpolitics/planning/8181694/Grant-your-own-planning-permission-government-tells-homeowners.html

just maybe the local populace will have a chance in future to have its say if these changes are put in place !
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`Mosque plans are given the green light`?


Makes a change from the Blue flashing lights they have had outside recently. :O
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greenpolitics/planning/8181694/Grant-your-own-planning-permission-government-tells-homeowners.html

just maybe the local populace will have a chance in future to have its say if these changes are put in place !
yeah
a sh1t load MORE mosques

well in a democratic state we should have been listened to anyway shouldnt we
think Dudley

all the muzzies will turn out to vote FOR the new mosques
all others will leave it up to everyone else to stop the eyesores and then moan when the vote is lost

I not big on optimism with this

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Pictures of the area and the existing building mosque:

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Scale Model views of the new Mosque (be prepared for this!!!)

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Eastbourne would be a nice demo. This is the start of the rot for eastbourne. If the people of eastbourne stopped patronising muslim business, and purchasing services from the muslim population the muslim population would leave.

They should also vote for anyone but the councillors who sanctioned this monstrocity.

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Fern, as promised , Im on to it big time. I have also nicked some of your , pukka , research
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Nice one, fern, here's a pic looking down on the site. Arrow points to existing building, red shaded area may form part of the site but could also be residents parking and Railways property.


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Below is one of the letters sent to the Councillors at Eastbourne from a resident.

Please may I take this opportunity to strongly object to the above project for the following reasons?

Traffic flow as it stands, when the centre is being used on Fridays and the other prayer days Ashford Road is almost impassable with no consideration of parking laws, no consideration of local residents, attendees of the mosque showing no consideration of health and safety by massing in the road, illegal parking in Leaf Road which is privately owned, forcing the residents of Leaf Road to find alternative parking even though they have the right to park in their private road and when approached you're met with the words "cannot speak english"

Secondly

Health and Safety

With the current building on prayer days its extremely difficult for the emergency services to access Ashford Square, Leaf Road and Susan's Road and as there is a mixture of all ages the last thing a fire engine crew want to do is enter a Mosque asking who owns what cars, and having the strong possibility of being told "cannot speak enlgish" and may I add there have been 3 fires in the past three years in Leaf Road alone. The same goes for the ambulance crews, does Eastbourne Council want to have a death of a resident on their conscience?? So one can only speculate how the situation will lworsen with the increase of size of this building

Impact on local residents

As the building stands, the impact of local residents is noticable as most of the residents are fed up with approaching the attendees of the mosque as you are met with "no speak english", "I will only be here a minute" or just completely ignoring you when you are only asking to stop/remove their cars that are illegally parked in Leaf Road. Residents who live in Susan's Road and Ashford Road having to find alternative places to park. I myself have on several occasions have had the unfortunate displeasure of having to run the gauntlet at 1.30am in the morning having been called out to attend an emergency!

All this just causes friction between residents and mosque attendants which cannot be good for either party or community relations.

To my knowledge there has been 3 previous applications of increasing the size of this mosque and to date all have been rejected. The local residents do not want this building in a heavily residential area surely it would be more beneficial if the mosque was re-sited out of the town centre like the recently Kings Church, where there would be better road access, bus routes, trains and parking and non-residential area.

At least 41 local residents have objected to the mosque with only two in favour, surely this as well as the other rejections from the planning committee must speak volumes, for once I hope the council take note and with the 41 local residents reject the application of agreeing with the two.
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Thats a good pic Christine, puts it into prospective. Quite a large area. What is that area where the cars are? Is that the mosque parking or is it for tenants?

The railways have been selling off a lot of their embankment land over the last few years, so it wouldnt surprise me if the mosque have already bought that patch.

The new mosque will draw a lot more of its kind into the area. My deepest sympathies go to the residents...
Another letter from a resident:

Dear Lisa Rawlinson

I am a resident of Ashford Sq and was at the planning meeting on Tues evening.

I was disappointed that the residents' objections did not seem to be taken into account as no one that was in favour of the rebuilding of the mosque lives here in the Square.

The one thing that was in our favour was that the speaker for the mosque did confirm that they would honour their promise made to me before the original building was a mosque that I could park my car in their car park. I assume this is one thing that influenced some of the committee to vote in favour. Can I have a copy of the minutes as evidence that this is true.

The area in red (in the below plan) is the mosque land I assume (which means that car parking area Christine is theirs too!)....not sure what the blue bit is

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