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|Islam's war against Christmas; Jihad on earth and ill-will to all kuffars|
|Tweet Topic Started: Nov 29 2010, 11:23 AM (3,103 Views)|
|Deleted User||Nov 29 2010, 11:23 AM Post #1|
Islam's Jihad against Christmas
Take the Christ out of Christmas and you get Winterval.
The Christmas message of 'Peace on Earth and goodwill to all' is diametrically opposed to everything that Islam stands for, which is 'Jihad on earth until unbelievers are exterminated or converted, then more jihad to exterminate the wrong kind of Muslims' .
So it's no wonder that Islamists hate Christmas. Sometimes they attempt physical attacks in order to turn a time of celebration into a time of disaster, but more generally they work by infiltration and subversion to gradually remove Christmas from the public sphere. Examples of Christmas bombing attacks are...
Muslims' failed Strasbourg Christmas Market attack 2000
Ten Islamic militants narrowly failed plot to blow up a Christmas market in Strasbourg in December 2000. The German court said the group had planned to blow up pressure cookers packed with explosives, a technique they allegedly learned in Afghan camps.
The target was the popular Strasbourg Christmas market set up around the city's cathedral, which was shown in a video with a voiceover by one of the four saying that the passers-by were the "enemies of God" and would burn in hell. Last month, Mr Tessier said the bombing "was avoided by a hair". http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4102023.stm
Muslim attempts to blow airliner over Detroit on Christmas Day
On Christmas Day 2009, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, a former UCL student, tried to detonate plastic explosives hidden in his underwear and kill the 278 passengers and crew on Northwest Airlines' flight from Amsterdam to Detroit. http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/10/after-christmas-jihad-bomb-attempt-uk-academics-ignore-deny-minimize-problem-of-jihadist-activity-am.html
German intel showed al-Qaeda operatives en route to country, Christmas markets a possible target
Such an attack would cause economic damage, with the additional symbolic impact of attacking an event related to a non-Muslim religious celebration. http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/11/german-intel-showed-al-qaeda-operatives-en-route-to-country-christmas-markets-a-possible-target.html
Christmas tree bomber wanted to kill children.
Beslan showed us that Islamists delight in killing kafir children, and Christmas provides an ideal opportunity to do it. 'Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19, attempted to detonate what he believed was an explosives-laden van at an annual Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland, Oregon. However, undercover FBI agents had been monitoring his plans and had ensured that the "bomb" was a dud. FBI operatives apparently cautioned Mohamud several times about the seriousness of this plan, noting that there would be many children at the event. But Mohamud responded that he was looking for a "huge mass that will ... be attacked in their own element with their families celebrating the holidays," the court documents said. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/somalia/8164440/Somali-teenager-tried-to-set-off-car-bomb-in-US.html
Apart from these violent attacks, Muslim infiltrators and subversives throughout the West are trying to downgrade and secularise Christmas, removing all its Christian associations to turn it into a politically correct 'Winterval'.
The motivations for this relentless campaign against Christmas are three-fold:
(1) Supremacism: to remove a Christian festival from its officially recognised place in the calendar.
(2) Protection of Muslim children from Christian influence.
(3) The Scrooge syndrome: resentment of kuffars having a good time.
How often have we seen Muslims carrying banners saying 'Islam will dominate'? This is one of their favorite slogans.
Muslims believe that Islam should be dominant and supreme over all other religions. So it enrages them to see a Christian festival having pride of place in the lands they are conquering. However, if they can't abolish Christmas they can secularise it, and strip it of its Christian associations, starting by taking the 'Christ' out of Christmas to give 'Winterval'.
Winterval is the officially recognised term in British local authorities in Muslim dominated areas, eg Birmingham:
UK: shopping center Santa banned — in case he offends non-Christians
"BOSSES have banned Santa from a shopping centre - in case he offends non-Christians.
The Scrooges struck at Birmingham's famous Bullring. A spokeswoman said: "We wish to be sensitive to people of other religions over the festive period. There are a lot of people in the region who are not Christians and do not celebrate Christmas." http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/11/uk-shopping-center-santa-banned-in-case-he-offends-non-christians.html
The Wintervalisation of Christmas is very similar to their implacable drive to dominate public space in the lands of the kuffar: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/muslim-domination-of-public-space.html
2. Protection of Muslim children from Christian influence.
Christmas is a magical time for children, and Islam has nothing to compare with it. There are no seasonal festivals in Islam because the Islamic year is innaccurate (a few days short of the full 365 - Allah was useless at mathematics), consequently their festivals such as Eid gradually wander through the calendar from month to month and season to season.
Also, the baby Jesus is a far more attractive personality for children than the filthy old pedophile Mohammed, and the Christmas story - with its animals, star and wise men - is much more appropriate to those of tender years than all the Mohammedan stories of massacres, tortures, rapes etc. http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/3957047/1/
"During the Christmas season, Christians all over the country illuminate their houses with lights, put up Christmas trees, and exchange gifts. TV is full of jingle bells and all the stores are decorated for Christmas. All this is very tempting to small children; children love putting up lights and decorating for holidays... http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543368
So it's no wonder that Muslim clerics rage against the 'Westoxication' of the younger generation by Christmas. Muslims are in any case forbidden celebrate any kuffar festival.
Celebrating the holidays and the occasions of the Kuffar is certainly Haram. You are not permitted to do it. Nor are your rulers allowed to make these (Kufr) holidays as official holidays, since it is an imitation of the Kuffar.
Imitating the Kuffar in any of their religious affairs or in any gesture that distinguishes them as groups is forbidden. Al-Bukhari narrated in his Sahih (book) that Abu Saeed Al-Khudri reported that Allah's Messenger said: "You will indeed follow the ways of those before you, hand span by hand span, and an arms length after another. Even if they enter into a lizards hole, you will follow them. We asked, is it the Jews and the Christians? He replied, Who else!"
This hadith condemns imitating them. It is a proof for the prohibitions of imitating the Jews and the Christians in their occasions, symbols, or any matter related to their belief.
Celebrating the holidays of the kuffar is an act of imitation which is forbidden in Islam. Allah's Messenger warned us against it. At-Tirmidhi narrated that Ibn Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "He is not one of us who imitates other than us. Do not imitate the Jews or the Christians." http://www.khilafah.com/index.php/concepts/islamic-culture/4557-celebrating-the-holidays-of-the-kuffar-is-haram
Muslim lawyer brands Christmas 'evil'
Muslim preacher Anjem Choudary has branded Christmas "evil" in a sermon posted on the internet. The lawyer, who recently praised the Mumbai terror attacks, urged all Muslims to reject traditional Christmas celebrations, claiming that they are forbidden by Allah.
"Decorating the house, purchasing Christmas trees or having Christmas turkey meals are completely prohibited by Allah. Many still practise this corrupt celebration as a remembrance of the birth of Jesus.
"How can a Muslim possibly approve or participate in such a practice that bases itself on the notion Allah has an offspring? (Like his three daughters? http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/3953005/1/)
The very concept of Christmas contradicts and conflicts with the foundation of Islam.
"Every Muslim has a responsibility to protect his family from the misguidance of Christmas, because its observance will lead to hellfire." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3699565/Muslim-lawyer-Anjem-Choudary-brands-Christmas-evil.html
Nativity plays are politically incorrect
Many schools in Britain are now banning the traditional nativity play as part of the process of creeping Islamisation: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1091594/Primary-school-cancels-nativity-play-interferes-Muslim-festival-Eid.html
3. Resentments against kuffars enjoying themselves.
The Ayatollah Khomeini made Scrooge look the Party Animal of the Year: "Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious." -- Ayatollah Khomeini http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/12/islam-pun-ad-canned.html
Interfaith harmony through carols
So perhaps we should modify our Christmas celebrations to appease Muslims such as the Ayatollah.
Here's a list of Christmas carols which could be rewritten to be more acceptable to the Religion of Peace:
Bang Bang Verily You Die
Bombing in a Winter Wasteland
Death to the World
Do They Know It's Jihad?
Frosty the Boobytrap
Hijacked Three Ships
I'm Dreaming of a Shi'ite Christmas
I Stoned Mommy for Kissing Santa Claus
Little Bomber Boy
No-go Town of Bethlehem
Oh Come all ye Fanatical
Repulsive Jews Below
While Shepherds Screwed Their Flocks
Wreck the Halls
...and of course, that all time favorite, Violent Night...
|dinkydee||Nov 29 2010, 11:52 AM Post #2|
|That would be funny - if it wasn't so bloody depressing.|
|Deleted User||Nov 29 2010, 12:52 PM Post #3|
Oh dear, where do I begin?
The op was very good indeed, the list of christmas carols was exceptional but the video was ABSOLUTE CLASS!
Well done, excellent post!
|Deleted User||Nov 29 2010, 01:05 PM Post #4|
|Deleted User||Nov 29 2010, 01:40 PM Post #5|
'Christmas is the pathway to hell': Muslim lawyer's extraordinary rant at 'evil' celebration
By Liz Hazelton
Last updated at 11:16 AM on 10th December 2008
A Muslim lawyer has launched an extraordinary rant against Christmas, branding the celebration 'evil'. Hate preacher Anjem Choudary claimed the festival was the 'pathway to hell' and urged his followers to boycott it. 'In the world today many Muslims, especially those residing in Western countries, are exposed to the evil celebration Christmas,' he raged in a sermon broadcast on the internet.
'Many take part in the festival celebrations by having Christmas turkey dinners. 'Decorating the house, purchasing Christmas trees or having Christmas turkey meals are completely prohibited by Allah. 'Many still practise this corrupt celebration as a remembrance of the birth of Jesus. 'How can a Muslim possibly approve or participate in such a practice that bases itself on the notion Allah has an offspring?
'The very concept of Christmas contradicts and conflicts with the foundation of Islam.
'Every Muslim has a responsibility to protect his family from the misguidance of Christmas, because its observance will lead to hellfire. 'Protect your Paradise from being taken away - protect yourself and your family from Christmas.' His comments were condemned by Robin Tilbrook, chairman of the English Democrats, who branded them 'nonsense'.
'You really start to wonder why the people behind this want to be in Britain in the first place,' he said.
'Why live here if that's how you feel? 'It's an extremely narrow-minded, jihadist, anti-Western viewpoint. It's such a backwards take on things. 'The ironic thing is Islam recognises Jesus as a leading prophet, and Christmas is based around him.
'I'm happy for these people to spout nonsense like this because it just shows them up for what they really are.'
Fanatic Choudhary, 41, who is chairman of the Society of Muslim Lawyers, is the right-hand man of exiled preacher Omar Bakri Mohammed.
His family lives on £25,000-a-year benefit handout while he has gained notoriety as a firebrand speaker lauded by extremist groups. In the past he has demanded the execution of the Pope, organised mass demonstrations against the publication of cartoons which allegedly insulted Mohammed and urged Muslims to have more babies to take over the UK.
Choudary's comments about Christmas come as councils were told by ministers to focus more strongly on tackling violent extremists
In speeches in London, both Communities Secretary Hazel Blears and Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said there needed to be a greater emphasis on 'confronting' the 'sharper end' of militant ideology, including directly targeting extremist leaders.
They said that it was no longer sufficient for councils to focus on promoting improved community cohesion while radicals were allowed to operate unhindered. The ministers added that inaction risked allowing extremists to target the young and other vulnerable individuals and warned that some local authorities could lose funding if they failed to adopt a more robust approach to tackling radicalism.
Neither minister criticised any local authority directly,
But recent cases such as the revelation by the London Evening Standard that a speech by Omar Bakri Mohammed was broadcast during a meeting in a hall hired from Tower Hamlets council, have highlighted concerns. In her speech, Ms Blears said that many councils had already engaged in positive work, such as training imams in English.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1093414/Christmas-pathway-hell-Muslim-lawyers-extraordinary-rant-evil-celebration.html#ixzz16fs7ayIW
|Deleted User||Nov 29 2010, 01:52 PM Post #6|
Good article from Sultan Knish at http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2010/11/it-just-isnt-christmas-without-muslim.html
"It Just Isn't Christmas without a Muslim Bombing
...If gift wrapping and church going are Christmas traditions, carrying out massacres during other people's holiday celebrations is a Muslim tradition. In Israel, holidays are a time for extra special caution. The Passover massacre in which dozens of senior citizens attending a holiday meal were murdered, the Yom Kippur War in which Muslim armies invaded Israel on the holiest day of its year or the Purim bombing outside a Tel Aviv mall using a nail bomb, are just some of the obvious examples of Muslim religious tolerance at work.
It's not limited to Jews or Christians either. In 2008, a number of bombs went off in Delhi just before Diwali. And back in 1991, Muslims planned to massacre thousands of Hindus during Diwali. Had they succeeded, the death toll might have been bigger than 9/11. Nearly two decades ago, North America was put on alert that importing Muslim immigrants, also meant bringing along their genocidal tendencies. Like renting rooms to tenants whose dogs have a little rabies problem, importing Islam, also means bringing in the same people who have been murdering Christians, Jews, Hindus and countless others around the world, ever since Mohamed's namesake first preached that he had a unique revelation and an exclusive license to kill, rob, rape and subjugate in the name of Allah.
While the news stories will insist that Mohamed Osman Mohamud (twice the Mohammed for twice the mayhem) was "lured" into a life of terror, he was just doing what Muslims since the time of Mohammed have naturally done. "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you", the Koran proclaims to the devout Muslim. For Mohamedx2, the "unbelievers" were grouping together at a Christmas tree-lighting ceremony in downtown Portland. And his goal was simple enough, "I want whoever is attending that event to leave, to leave dead or injured."
While we may go on denying it, for Muslims this is a religious war. And what better target for terror, than an infidel's religious event?
The clergy at interfaith conferences may yammer on about how we're all the children of god, but Muslims know better. They are the slaves of Allah and we are heretics and idol worshipers. It's their duty to fight us, until we submit and accept Muslim rule. The more we resist, the more they're obligated to kill us until we give in and there's a mosque on every corner and the Koran replaces the Constitution. It's a religious duty for a Muslim to make the Way of Allah triumphant all across the globe. To Muslims, this is a sacred duty and a way of life, that is not a detail, but the heart of the Koran....
Read the rest at http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2010/11/it-just-isnt-christmas-without-muslim.html
|Capt Haddock||Nov 29 2010, 02:33 PM Post #7|
|Don't these lunatics ever take a day off? Sigh,,,,,,,,,,,,|
|London-Calling||Nov 29 2010, 10:34 PM Post #8|
|They probably want to be in Britain to take over and introduce Sharia Law and NO they rarely take a day off (SADLY)|
|Deleted User||Nov 30 2010, 12:41 AM Post #9|
|That Somalian should have an iron put to his face. And some.|
|Stylezy||Nov 30 2010, 02:45 AM Post #10|
This is a christmas song that should be in the charts
|a fresh start||Nov 30 2010, 04:55 PM Post #11|
so so sad that the bullring will not be letting the little ones see santa because of the special ones, if they start putting up winterfest banners we deffo need a demo there to show its just not on. i find it offencive that WE are not aloud to celebrate. oh it makes me mad!!!!
but heres something to cheer you up, the all infomus chavmas!
'Pretend this says something witty and funny, but not to funny otherwise that wouldnt be cool'|
|rose_wolves||Nov 30 2010, 05:11 PM Post #12|
I read that about the Bullring in the paper, "because they don't want to offend non-christians". How about offending Chrisitan's for not celebrating their religion? Obviously not special enough eh lol
Take up our quarrel with the foe:|
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
|Star||Nov 30 2010, 05:20 PM Post #13|
Heard Terry Wogan referring to it as the winter festival last week.... wtf? something about people turning on the lights for the winter festival....
If you don't want to celebrate xmas then don't ... but why can't everyone else? Makes me really sad that our lives are being eroded away by these PC [email protected]!
|THEY JOINED FOR MANY REASONS, TO MARCH, TO SAIL, TO FLY. THEY WENT WHERE THEY WERE POSTED, BUT NOBODY JOINS TO DIE. THEIR LEADERS TALK ON TV, WHAT ELSE COULD WE HAVE DONE? BUT THOSE LEADERS LOST NO DAUGHTERS, AND NONE HAS LOST A SON. SO HERE'S TO ALL OUR SOLDIERS WHEREVER THEY MAY BE...AND HERES TO ALL THEIR FAMILIES, I RAISE A GLASS TO THEE...WEAR YOUR POPPY WITH PRIDE.|
|Deleted User||Dec 11 2010, 07:27 PM Post #14|
It's beginning to look a lot like jihad
|Deleted User||Dec 12 2010, 12:07 AM Post #15|
Islamic attack in Stockholm
Sweden has been the most Muslim-friendly country in Europe, and this is what they get
"About 10 minutes before the explosions an e-mail was sent to TT, and also to the Swedish secret services (Säpo), where a man adresses “Sweden and the Swedish people”. He refers to the Swedish silence concerning Lars Vilks’ paintings, the Swedish soldiers in Afghanistan and says that “now your children, daughters and sisters will die as our brothers and sisters and children are dying”. – Our actions will speak for themselves. As long as you continue to wage your war against Islam and insulting the prophet and your stupid support of the pig Vilks, says the man. – Whereupon he encourages all Muslims in Sweden to “stop sucking up and debasing yourselves”. He ends the message with another exhortation to “all the mujahedin in Europe and Sweden”: – Now is the time to attack, do not wait any longer. Come forward with whatever you have, even if it’s just a knife and I know you have more than just knives. Do not fear anyone, do not fear jail, do not fear death. – It is not clear from the audio files if the man speaking belongs to any organization. But he states that he has been in the Middle East and asks his family to forgive him for having lied to them. – I never went to the Middle East to work or make money, I went there for jihad, he says. – Säpo has not confirmed the contents to TT or confirmed having received the mail, which contains sound files where both Swedish and Arabic are spoken. TT has not been able to confirm that the mail is related to the explosion.
This is the first time anyone has blown himself up in Sweden, ever. To think that this is a completely random act is just silly. And now we have a jihadist e-mail, sent 10 minutes before this completely unique explosion.
The car was registered to an Abdul T. http://politisktinkorrekt.info/2010/12/11/bil-exploderade-i-stockholms-city-en-dod/
Witnesses say the man shouted in Arabic before he died.
|Deleted User||Dec 12 2010, 01:12 AM Post #16|
i see that you use x in xmas?where is the christ in that?
keep the faith
|S.W.A.T.||Dec 12 2010, 01:20 AM Post #17|
FFS shocked an stunned.
why isnt this all over the news. yet still politicians and the average man in the street thinks we have nothing to fear from the religion of peace. [ wake up Europe nothing changes if nothing changes ]..
bamiyan i really think you should re-post this thread in the main 'chat' section, as many people i think go straight to that section. this needs to be seen by as many people as possible...
"A MANS MORAL WORTH IS ESTABLISHED ONLY AT THE POINT WHERE HE IS READY TO GIVE UP HIS LIFE IN DEFENSE OF HIS CONVICTIONS".... HENNING VON TRESCKOW
|ingonito||Dec 12 2010, 11:54 PM Post #18|
||Funny how it's been generalised that all muslims want to ban Christmas. Christmas has been a part of England since, God knows. I'm a muslim, I was born and have been brought up in England, been to a Christian school and also took part in the nativity play many a times. I haven't seen or heard a word from any muslims trying to ban Christmas and calling it a winter festival.|
|Deleted User||Dec 13 2010, 09:38 AM Post #19|
'Tis the season to be supremacist: "Every Muslim has a responsibility to protect his family from the misguidance of Christmas, because its observance will lead to hellfire"
Belying the bland assurances of Islamic spokesmen in the West that Islam is completely compatible with Western society is the hatred and contempt it inculcates for its fellow "Abrahamic religions." Islamic Tolerance Alert from Izharuddin.com (thanks to Jim):
Christmas: The Path To Hellfire
In the world today many Muslims, especially those residing in Western countries are exposed to the evil celebration, Christmas. Many take part in the festive celebrations by exchanging cards, gifts, decorating homes, having Christmas turkey dinners & congratulating one another for the coming of season etc. For many the practice is viewed as harmless amusement & pleasure for young & old.
The build up to Christmas is aggressively promoted; businesses deploy every possible tactic to captivate the masses in every spectrum of society, in shopping centres, high streets, television, radio, magazine & newspapers.
Even though Christmas has been taken hostage by Capitalist to increase business revenues, many still practice this corrupt celebration as a remembrance of the birth of Jesus, who is considered as 'the incarnation of God' second third of the trinity, hence it is a celebration of the birth of divinity.
Though the date 25th December is taken by Christians as the birth of Jesus, the origins of this date can be linked to the birthday of the Hindu god Khrishna, & the Greek god of light, Mithra. This evil celebration is from many angles of origin is a deeply rooted practice of Shirk (worshipping along with the Creator [i.e. Allah], a crime which Allah will never forgive.
"Verily, Allâh forgives not that partners should be set up with him in worship, but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He pleases, & whoever sets up partners with Allâh in worship, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin" [4:48]
How can a Muslim possibly approve or participate in such a practice that bases itself on the notion that Allah has an offspring?
Allah (swt) said,
"Such was Jesus, the son of Mary; it is a statement of truth, about which they vainly dispute. It is not befitting to the majesty of God, that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter, He only says to it, 'Be' & it is" [19:34-35]
If the prophet of Allah, Jesus (Isa the son of Maryum, peace be upon him) was to return now, he would never tolerate such accusations being levied against him. Rather when he was born his first proclamation was clarifying his status as slave & messenger of Allah & nothing more.
He (Jesus) said: 'Verily! I am a slave of God; He has given me the Scripture & made me a Prophet; "[19:29-30]
The very concept of Christmas contradicts & conflicts with the foundation of Islam, & that is the testimony of faith, "La Ilaha Ila Allah - None has the right to be worshipped but Allah". Any person with basic knowledge of Islam could never accept or tolerate such a false accusation against Allah. Allah is free from having any offspring or being an offspring, for He (swt) said,
"Say: "God is Unique! God, the Source [of everything]. He has not fathered anyone nor was He fathered, & there is nothing comparable to Him!" [112:1-4]
Even though this practice is heavily glamorised & practiced by the majority, it is paramount for every worshipper of Allah to avoid following the masses in this evil celebration, Allah (swt) said,
"If you obey most of those upon the earth, they will lead you away from the way of Allaah." [6:116]
It is the ruling of Allah & His Messenger, that those who imitate anyone in dress, manner, behaviour, speech or even celebration becomes part of that community, for the messenger of Allah (swt) said,
"Whoever imamates a group of people he is one of them". [Reported in Abu Dawood]
Every Muslim has a responsibility to protect his family from the misguidance of Christmas, because its observance will lead to hellfire (a punishment which is seventy times hotter than the fires of this world).
"O you who believe! save yourselves & your families a Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men & stones.." [66:6]
Know dear Muslim, to offer Christmas cards, attend any Christmas events, to congratulate others (i.e. by saying "Merry Christmas" or "Happy New Year" etc), Decorating the house, purchasing Christmas trees, or having Christmas turkey meals are completely prohibited by Allah. Protect your Paradise from being taken away from you & your family; protect yourself & your family from Christmas.
|holliemac||Dec 13 2010, 04:43 PM Post #20|
it makes me sick to death if they don't like the way we live or celebrate our traditional things then fcuk off back to where they came from.
They make me sick soldiers are out there fighting for these useless pieces of sh1t and for what???? so they can claim asylum come to the UK and try to make us a mini Afghanistan or Iraq ect. Not any more we need to show these stupid naive people that we as a community will not stand it and that we will be changing fcuk all for them, so piss off out our country.
|williamdegriffin||Dec 13 2010, 07:00 PM Post #21|
|must ask my local council what there directives are this year , already been told several schools are calling winterfairs instead of christmas fairs..... just not christmas.|
This land is mine and as such respect me and my ways for my tolerance only goes so far |
william de griffin
REGAIN THE CHURCH
REMOVE ISLAM FROM THE UK AND EUROPE.
|fireman_tim||Dec 15 2010, 11:13 AM Post #22|
I like the South Park episode where Santa gets shot down and tortured by the Iraqis, then Jesus sacrifices himself to save Christmas.
|EDL ELITE||Dec 15 2010, 11:22 PM Post #23|
Yes well it's well documented that a good chunk of Muslims ARE OFFENDED, and it's easy for you simply to say "Well I've never heard any Muslims complaining..." but why don't you lot do something useful instead like protest to the government that the extremist Muslims who are destroying our culture should be ignored and deported if necessary, maybe then SOMETHING would get done, considering White British simply don't have a voice anymore. You "good" Muslims simply sit on the sidelines and that makes you no better than the other evil bastards...
|Deleted User||Dec 19 2010, 12:34 AM Post #24|
Santa Claus banned due to complaints from Muslims:
Santa Claus, as portrayed by Dennis Jackson, won't be visiting students at the Head Start classes in St. Peter this year.
Jackson has made appearances the past four years at the classes for students who need help preparing for school, but this year officials said, "No, no, no."
The reason: The classes have many immigrant children who don't celebrate Christmas, says the Mankato Free Press.
Santa's a little frosted, the paper says.
It kind of burnt me up," he said.
The official explanation from Chris Marben, who coordinates regional Head Start programs through Mankato-based Minnesota Valley Action Council: "We have Somali families in the program. We're respecting the wishes of families in the program."
She didn't say how many objections were made, but said more than one would be enough to cancel Santa.
"The simple truth is that southern Minnesota has become a much more culturally diverse society than it was a few decades ago," she told the paper. "Part of our challenge in Head Start is providing an environment where young children from many different cultures can all feel comfortable."...
|fireman_tim||Dec 19 2010, 01:55 PM Post #25|
|Deleted User||Dec 20 2010, 10:39 AM Post #26|
Anti-terror squad arrest 12 men 'planning UK terror attack': Christmas plot at advanced stage, say police. Twelve men were arrested early this morning in a major national counter-terrorism operation, police said today.
The men - five from Cardiff, four from Stoke-on-Trent and three from London - were detained on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of an act of terrorism in the UK.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340117/Police-arrest-12-people-plotting-terror-attack.html
|enlightenment||Dec 20 2010, 11:22 AM Post #27|
This was a letter from Muhummad to his uncle (from the Koran):
May the hands of Alu-Lahab perish. May he himself perish. Nothing shall his wealth and gains avail him. He shall burn in a flaming fire, and his wife, laden with firewood, shall have a rope around her neck. 111:1
This is the so-called 'Religion of Peace'
And these are some more verses of love and peace from the Koran. This is only up to chapter 22 (I got bored and stopped), and it misses out all the 'run-of-the-mill' hatred and abuse towards Jews and Christians. In reality, there are about 4x this number of hate-verses in the first 22 chapters.
1. ... a grievous punishment awaits them. 2:5, 2:104, 2:174, 3:176, 3:177, 3:178, 3:189, 4:56, 4:138, 5:36, 9:79, 9:90, 9:96, 9:101, 9:114, 10:9, 10:69, 10:95, 10:101, 13:34, 14:2, 14:29, 16.63
2. ... shall be inmates of fire, 2:39, 2:82, 2:167, 3:131, 3:150, 3:192, 4:56, 4:116, 4:145, 6:129, 8:13, 9:17, 9:63, 9:68, 10:9, 10:27, 11:15, 14:30, 22:8,
3. Fight against the unbelievers until idolatry is no more, and god's religion reigns supreme. 2:193
4. Muslims, fighting is obligatory for you, even if you dislike it. 2:216
5. Say to the unbelievers. 'you shall be overthrown and driven into hell, an evil resting place'. 3:10
6. Those who make war on god and Muhummad ... shall be crucified and have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides. 3:34
7. They shall strive to get out of the fire, but they shall not. A lasting punishment awaits them. 3:37
8. The unbelievers shall be sternly punished in this world and in the world to come, there shall be none to help them. 3:58
9. The reward for the unbeliever will be the curse of god, angels and all mankind, and under it they will abide forever. 3:88
10. Lay hold on the unbelievers, and kill them wherever you find them. 4:91
11. The unbelievers are your inveterate foe. 4:101
12 As for the unbelievers, if they offered the whole earth to redeem themselves ... it will not be accepted from them. A woeful punishment awaits them. They will strive to get out of the fire, but they will not. A lasting punishment awaits them. 5:36
13. Who will receive a worse punishment from god? Those who god has cursed and transformed into apes and pigs, and those who serve the devil. 5:60
14 Those who turn away from the Koran shall be sternly punished for their indifference. 6:157
15. God said ... I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the tips of their fingers. 8:12
16. Make war on the unbelievers until idolatry ceases and god's religion reigns supreme. 8:40
17. The basest of creatures in the sight of god are the faithless and those who will not believe. 8:55
18. Let not the unbelievers think they will get away ... Muster against them all the men and cavalry at your command, so you may strike fear into the enemies of god. 8:59
19 Muhummad, rouse the Muslims to arms. If there are twenty among you, they shall vanquish two hundred. And if there are a hundred with you, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers; for they are devoid of understanding. 8:65
20. Proclaim a woeful punishment for the unbelievers. 9:4
21. When the sacred months are over, slay the idolators wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere for them. 9:5
22. Make war on the leaders of the unbelievers. 9:12
23. Make war on the unbelievers, god will chastise them at your hands and humble them. 9:14
24. Fight those to who the scriptures were given, and do not believe in god and the Last Day ... until they pay the religious tax in absolute submission 9:29
25 Muslims, if you do not go to war, god will punish you sternly and will replace you by other men. 9:39
26. Make war on the unbelievers and hypocrites, and deal harshly with them. 9:73
27. As for the unbelievers, scalding water they will drink, and for their unbelief a woeful punishment awaits them. 10:9
28 They shall be bound with chains. They are heirs of the Fire and shall abide in it forever. 13:6
29. Punishment awaits the unbelievers in this life, but a more grievous punishment awaits them in the life to come. 13:34
30. Do they not see how we invade their lands and diminish their borders? 13:40
31. Woe betide the unbelievers, for they shall be sternly punished. 14:2
32. Hell will stretch behind the unbeliever, and putrid water he shall drink ... Death will assail him from every side, yet he shall not die. A harrowing torment awaits him. 14:16
33. The unbeliever will burn in hell, and evil will be their fate. 14:29
34. On that day you will see the unbelievers bound in chains, their garments will be pitch, and their faces covered with flames. 14:50
35 God will gather the unbelievers on the day of resurrection, prostrate upon their faces, blind, dumb and deaf. Hell shall be their home: whenever the flames die down, god will rekindle them. Thus shall they be rewarded because they disbelieved. 17:98
36 For the unbelievers god has prepared a fire which will encompass them like the walls of a pavilion. When they cry out for help they shall be showered with water as hot as molten brass, which will scald their faces. Evil shall be their drink, evil will be their resting place. 18:29
37. On that day, god shall lay bare Hell before the unbelievers, who have turned a blind eye to my reprimand and a deaf ear to my warning ... We have prepared a Hell for the unbelievers to dwell in. 18:100
38. We will call the unbelievers to account in company with all the devils, and set them on their knees around the fires of Hell. 19:70
39. Know that god sends down devils to the unbelievers, to incite them to evil. The day will come when we gather the righteous before the Lord, and drive the guilty to hell in thirsty hoards. 18:87
40. If only the unbelievers knew the day when they shall strive in vain to shield their faces and their backs from the fires of hell; they day when none shall help them. 21:39
41. If anyone thinks that god will not give victory to Muhummad in this world and the next, let him tie a rope to the ceiling of his house and hang himself. 21:15
42. Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water will be poured upon their heads to melt their skins and that which is in their bellies; and they shall be lashed with rods of ireon. If they try to escape, they shall be dragged back and told, 'taste the torment and the Fires'. 22:19
50. Muslims do not take the Jews and Christians for friends. 3:28
51. Muslims, do not make friends with anyone but your own people. 3:118
52. Muslims, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. 5:51
This is the New Enlightenment Koran, with the verses of hatred, torture and murder replaced by verses of peace. Anyone still using the Old Koran, by the year 2011, will be declaring their continued desire for the hatred and murder of all other peoples.
PDF copy available from:
Please copy this New Enlightenment Koran to a safe place, before the hate-mongers delete it.
Check out chapters 21 and 67. It may not look like it, but this is as close as one can get to the original text, without allowing the hatred to shine through.
Edited by enlightenment, Dec 20 2010, 11:32 AM.
|Deleted User||Dec 20 2010, 11:56 AM Post #28|
Seeing these Qur'anic quotes reminds me of the time I made up a religion of my own on Youtube (I got 10's of disciples) My religion was called "Malsi". I used Qur'anic quotes and words such as "Infidel", "Polytheist", "Jew", "Christian" and "Abu Lahab" (real name Abd-al-Uzza ibn 'Abdul Muttalib but Mohammad and his alter-ego Allah hated him along with his wife) I swapped for the word Muslim.
In effect my religion was Islam in reverse.
You would not believe the amount of abuse I got from Muslims and their leftist useful idiots all accusing me of the most terrible hate speech and racism.
Can you imagine the deafening silence I was met with when I explained what I had done, bar of course the usual "you've taken it out of context" and "you can't talk about the Qur'an unless you can speak ancient Arabic with a twist Meccan Quraysh slang"
Oh, by the way I'm new here, but not new to this, if you know what I mean ; )
|fireman_tim||Dec 20 2010, 01:23 PM Post #29|
calling us unclean
That is funny, Talcum Powder DOES NOT equal a shower you dirty bastards.
|Deleted User||Dec 20 2010, 04:31 PM Post #30|
HATE-FILLED preacher Anjem Choudary is holding an anti-Christmas protest on Britain’s busiest shopping street. The nut is heading to London’s Oxford Street on Christmas Eve to try to convert a million “lost souls”.
The ranting cleric will lead disciples in a protest against the “promiscuity and materialism” of Christmas on a day when more than a million shoppers will in the world’s most famous shopping district.
And the Muslim rabble rouser hopes his actions will boost his evil plan to fly the “Black Flag of Sharia” over yet another British institution. Last night Choudary, 43, said: “Christmas is the complete anathema to Islam. Drunkenness, promiscuity and materialism are just a few of the issues we want to tackle.
“For us these are the ‘Evils of Christmas’. That’s why we are going to hold our latest roadshow in Oxford Street and Regent Street in the heartland of London’s best-known shopping district.
“Abortion, unwanted children, domestic violence and even blasphemy. It all happens at Christmas.
“We will be setting out stalls and marquees. We hope to have a presence of at least 200 Muslims.
“Hopefully around a million people will pass through this area. We will speak to as many of them as possible about the issues concerned.”
He added: “We will be distributing material about Islam. We hope, at a time when the country is in recession and the Government is frittering away money on foreign policy, people will see that Islam offers an alternative to the consumerism of this time of year.
“Islam does away with the need for drugs and alcohol and all the other evils that are synonymous with Christmas.”
Last year Choudary sparked outrage when he proposed a protest march through the repatriation town of Wootton Bassett. The demo was called off after a public outcry.
|enlightenment||Dec 20 2010, 05:24 PM Post #31|
Well, I hope someone is organising a counter-demonstration.
There should be several Christian organisations outraged by this, as well as the EDL.
|Deleted User||Dec 21 2010, 10:57 AM Post #32|
Muslim teacher in carol concert tirade is made Ofsted inspector
A hardline Muslim teacher who caused a furore by denouncing pupils for celebrating Christmas has been made a Government schools inspector.
Israr Khan's Ofsted appointment was described by a former colleague as 'absolutely astonishing'.
Mr Khan, now headmaster of an Islamic school, launched into his tirade during a concert rehearsal at Washwood Heath Secondary School in Birmingham in 1996 after the choir including around 40 Muslim youngsters, had sung a number of popular Christmas songs, including carols.
He leapt from his seat, yelling: "Who is your God? Why are you saying Jesus and Jesus Christ? God is not your God - it is Allah."
As children in the audience began booing and clapping, a number of choir members - both white and Asian - walked out, some in tears.
Mr Khan, a maths teacher, was asked to work from home pending an investigation but there was no disciplinary action.
It has been claimed that Washwood Heath school was then a 'hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism'. Rashid Rauf - the airline terror bomb suspect whose extradition is currently being sought from Pakistan - was a pupil there at that time.
Mr Khan left Washwood Heath a year later to found the independent Islamic Hamd House Preparatory School in Small Heath, Birmingham, where he is headmaster.
Earlier this year, he was appointed as a governor of Anderton Park Primary School, in Sparkbrook, Birmingham.
A former Washwood Heath colleague laughed openly when told of Mr Khan's role as an Ofsted inspector where he has the responsibility for passing or failing schools.
He said: "Given the man's history, it's absolutely astonishing. It's just the cheek of the man that he's been able to reach that position. He always was an extremely clever man.
"He gave me many insights into the Islamic cause and their hatred of the US and the Western World. He had a big support base among some of the Muslim parents.
"But there were some very influential, radical elements at Washwood Heath at that time and Israr Khan was very close to all that."
Earlier this year, Anderton Park, where 99.5 per cent of the pupils are Asian, received a dismal Ofsted report which branded its teaching and its achievements as inadequate.
One Muslim father, who asked to be known only as Mohammed, said: "As a governor, Mr Khan will be able to exert a great deal of influence over the school and its policies.
"By his previous actions, he seems to represent what I would call a hardcore attitude to Islam."
Mr Khan declined to comment about his appointment, waving questions away at his large home in Moseley, Birmingham.
An Ofsted spokesman said: "Israr Khan was appointed as an additional inspector via a highly competitive recruitment and selection process. He has undergone all the relevant security checks."
|fireman_tim||Dec 22 2010, 12:51 AM Post #33|
|Why is everything a "Hate Crime"? Why not just a "Pissed Off Crime" or an "Indifferent Crime"?, or just a "Give Me Your fcuking Wallet Crime"?|
|Deleted User||Dec 22 2010, 09:40 PM Post #34|
Christmas is evil': Muslim group launches poster campaign against festive period
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 3:57 PM on 22nd December 2010
Fanatics from a banned Islamic hate group have launched a nationwide poster campaign denouncing Christmas as evil.
Organisers plan to put up thousands of placards around the UK claiming the season of goodwill is responsible for rape, teenage pregnancies, abortion, promiscuity, crime and paedophilia.
They hope the campaign will help 'destroy Christmas' in this country and lead to Britons converting to Islam instead.
The placards, which have already appeared in parts of London, feature an apparently festive scene with an image of the Star of Bethlehem over a Christmas tree.
But under a banner announcing 'the evils of Christmas' it features a message mocking the song the 12 Days of Christmas.
* The latest WikiLeaks revelation: 1 in 3 British Muslim students back killing for Islam and 40% want Sharia law
It reads: 'On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me an STD (sexually transmitted disease).
'On the second day debt, on the third rape, the fourth teenage pregnancies and then there was abortion.'
According to the posters, Christmas is also to responsible for paganism, domestic violence, homelessness, vandalism, alcohol and drugs.
Another offence of Christmas, it proclaims, is 'claiming God has a son'.
The bottom of the poster declares: 'In Islam we are protected from all of these evils. We have marriage, family, honour, dignity, security, rights for man, woman and child.'
The campaign's organiser is 27-year-old Abu Rumaysah, who once called for Sharia Law in Britain at a press conference held by hate preacher leader Anjem Choudary, the leader of militant group Islam4UK.
Former Home Secretary Alan Johnson banned Islam4UK group earlier this year, making it a criminal offence to be a member, after it threatened to protest at Wootton Bassett, the town where Britain honours its war dead.
Mr Rumaysah told the Mail that he was unconcerned about offending Christians.
He said: 'Christmas is a lie and as Muslims it is our duty to attack it.
'But our main attack is on the fruits of Christmas, things like alcohol abuse and promiscuity that increase during Christmas and all the other evils these lead to such as abortion, domestic violence and crime.
'We hope that out campaign will make people realise that Islam is the only way to avoid this and convert.'
Mr Rumaysah, who said his campaign was not linked to any group, boasted that the posters would be put up in cities around the country, including London, Birmingham and Cardiff.
The campaign was highlighted by volunteers from a charity which distributes food and presents to pensioners and the lonely at Christmas.
Sister Christine Frost, founder of the East London Neighbours in Poplar charity, said: 'The more posters I saw, the more angry I got.
'Someone is stirring hatred which leaves the road open to revenge attacks or petrol bombs through letter-boxes.
'I told the Mayor we are all scared.
'If we said such things about Muslims, we'd all be hanging from lamp-posts.
'The posters appear to be professionally printed'.
Poplar and Limehouse MP Mr Fitzpatrick said: 'These posters are extremely offensive and have upset a lot of people - that's why we jumped on it and asked the council to remove them.
'Sister Christine is rooted in the community and doesn't take offence lightly.
'But these hate posters really upset her. Christmas is close to her belief.'
A Met Police spokesman said they had received complaints and were investigating.
Tower Hamlets mayor Lutfur Rahman said the posters had 'upset and antagonised many residents'.
He added: 'The messages on these posters are offensive and do not reflect the views of the Council or the vast majority of residents.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340794/Muslim-group-launches-poster-hate-campaign-festive-period.html
|regulus||Dec 23 2010, 06:56 PM Post #35|
Hi, just joined this site today, after a day of been wound up after reading the articles about the christmas poster and santa been banned I had to voice an opinion, although I have to moderate my comment as I would be banned after a couple of minutes...
Cant understand why someone hasn't given this rat a good slap, preferably a permanent injection of lead via the head.
Is he going to get a welcome from any EDL members?
|Deleted User||Dec 25 2010, 11:25 AM Post #36|
Muslims celebrate Christmas!
"Your [Christmas] fireworks will act as an alarm for the time of our devices to blow up -- devices that we, not Santa Claus, are going to offer to you as gifts, to turn your night into day and your blood into rivers"
For the Islamic jihadist, Christmas is evil, but mass murder isn't. "Yule ghouls' jingle bombs," from AFP, December 25:
WASHINGTON -- An Islamic extremist has threatened in an audiotaped message to set off bombs in countries celebrating Christmas.
"Your [Christmas] fireworks will act as an alarm for the time of our devices to blow up -- devices that we, not Santa Claus, are going to offer to you as gifts, to turn your night into day and your blood into rivers," said a member of the Shumukh al-Islam forum.
Hours later, a bomb blast wounded six people today during Christmas Mass at a church in the Philippines.
And in northern Nigeria last night, Islamist sect members launched a failed attack on a church during Christmas Eve services.
|fireman_tim||Dec 27 2010, 01:43 PM Post #37|
|What a pack of c*&ts|
|Deleted User||Dec 27 2010, 03:11 PM Post #38|
'Christmas plotters' in custody over terror charges
Nine men charged with conspiracy to attack a number of UK targets in the run up to Christmas have been remanded in custody after appearing in court.
They were also charged with preparing for terrorism by agreeing potential targets and testing materials.
They all appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Monday.
The men are aged between 19 and 28 and three are from Cardiff, two from London and four from Stoke-on-Trent. They were arrested during raids last week.
The raids took place in Birmingham, London, Cardiff and Stoke-on-Trent on 20 December.
Three others arrested at the same time were earlier released without charge.
The raids had been co-ordinated by the West Midlands Counter Terrorism Unit.
Those charged are accused of conspiring on dates between 1 October and 20 November to cause an explosion.
The accused men have also been charged under 5(1) of the Terrorism Act 2006 of engaging in conduct in preparation for acts of terrorism on dates between 1 October and 20 December.
They are alleged to have done this by carrying out reconnaissance, agreeing potential targets, downloading and researching materials and igniting and testing incendiary material.
BBC correspondent Jon Brain said the men had appeared before the court in groups.
Mohammed Moksudur Rahman Chowdhury, 20, of Stanliff House, Tower Hamlets, and Shah Mohammed Lutfar Rahman, 28, of St Bernard's Road, Newham, have been remanded in custody until 14 January.
Gurukanth Desai, 28, of Albert Street; Omar Sharif Latif, 26, of Neville Street, and Abdul Malik Miah, 24, of Ninian Park Road, all from Cardiff, have to appear at the Old Bailey on the same date.
Nazam Hussain, 25, of Grove Street; Usman Khan, 19, of Persia Walk; Mohibur Rahman, 26, of North Road, and Abul Bosher Mohammed Shahjahan, 26, of Burmarsh Walk, all from Stoke-on-Trent, were also remanded in custody.
Our correspondent said the prosecution is outlining the details of the alleged plot but because of legal reasons, these have been kept out of the public domain for now.
Lord Carlile, the independent reviewer of UK counter-terrorism laws, told MPs at the time of the arrests that the allegations were of a "significant" plot.
Two of those released without charge were from Cardiff and one was from London.
|kaimana1||Jan 2 2011, 02:16 AM Post #39|
Hi, dhimmiwit!your teachings spread , Do you know user peterpedant? Both brother peter and myself are MALSIAN disciples!
محمد رسول الشيطان
|fireman_tim||Jan 4 2011, 02:03 AM Post #40|
|I like it|
|Deleted User||Jan 4 2011, 02:15 AM Post #41|
Nice one, Tim!
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