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| Tomorrow The E.U. becomes a Fascist State; New regulations governing xenophobia | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 28 2010, 02:37 PM (469 Views) | |
| Yorkshireminer | Nov 28 2010, 02:37 PM Post #1 |
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Firstly I would like to have this pinned, I think it is very important. Secondly I would like many here spend as they like to say some long quality time too read it and really understand it, It is going to affect you and your Children and Grandchildren for all time, it is bloody frightening http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2008:328:0055:0058:EN:PDF When you have read it shake with fear. With the new European arrest warrant now in place if you did but know it, anybody can accuse you of breaking the laws of the country where they live and issue an arrest warrant, Imagine how Turkey would use this if they were a member of the E.U. Our police would then have to arrest you and hand you over to the European police force who have diplomatic immunity who would then transport you to the country who had issued the warrant to stand trial. There is no appeal. I am reminded of Greys comment at the beginning of the first World War. ( The lights are going out over Europe and I don't think we will see them lit again in our lifetime) I fear we are entering a new dark age. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 02:47 PM Post #2 |
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Disband the EU! An as big or bigger threat than Islam. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 02:58 PM Post #3 |
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So, in addition to any fines/imprisonment any benefits will be stopped and they can stop you from working too. I'm not sure about parts c and d, does this mean they can monitor you for further offences? We need to pull out of the EU immediately. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 03:00 PM Post #4 |
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I must have missed the bit that said: "Islam and islamists are to be exempted from these laws therefore should not be prosecuted for infringement of the said laws" or some such sh1te. FFS! |
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 03:02 PM Post #5 |
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That goes without saying, as they are always the victims.
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 03:05 PM Post #6 |
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Jeez, we are fighting for our survival here, we are being invaded at every level, I can't understand how we have sleep walked into it...and still we don't wake up. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 03:07 PM Post #7 |
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Offences concerning racism and xenophobia 1. Each Member State shall take the measures necessary to ensure that the following intentional conduct is punishable: (a) publicly inciting to violence or hatred directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin; (b) the commission of an act referred to in point (a) by public dissemination or distribution of tracts, pictures or other material; (c) publicly condoning, denying or grossly trivialising crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes as defined in Articles 6, 7 and 8 of the Statute of the International Criminal Court, directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin when the conduct is carried out in a manner likely to incite to violence or hatred against such a group or a member of such a group; Penalties for legal persons 1. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to ensure that a legal person held liable pursuant to Article 5(1) is punishable by effective, proportionate and dissuasive penalties, which shall include criminal or non-criminal fines and may include other penalties, such as: (a) exclusion from entitlement to public benefits or aid; So Anjem should get his dole stopped? Sorry, I'm being wishfully flippant, there. Seriously, this is the most worrying document I have ever read. PARTICULARLY THIS. (11) It should be ensured that investigations and prosecutions of offences involving racism and xenophobia are not dependent on reports or accusations made by victims, who are often particularly vulnerable and reluctant to initiate legal proceedings. SO WE CAN GET NICKED ON THE STRENGTH OF SOME FEEBLE-MINDED LEFTY COMPLAINING ON BEHALF OF A THIRD PARTY. WE SERIOUSLY NEED TO BE OUT OF THE EU, LIVELY. To the OP. Well done finding this document and I also think it should be pinned, FWIW |
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| stevenp | Nov 28 2010, 03:15 PM Post #8 |
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well fcuk me looks like freedom of speach has fluttered into history,god save us all |
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 03:26 PM Post #9 |
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They can go fcuk themselves. Let's see them prosecute all of us for hating those who hate us too. |
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| brianoflondon | Nov 28 2010, 03:42 PM Post #10 |
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Am I being a bit dim (and the rest of the document is truely a work worth of the desk of Winston Smith from 1984) but what does the following mean:
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Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009. Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century. They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back. | |
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 03:46 PM Post #11 |
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seen this coming and rambled on for years about the EU dictatorship coming., hitler wouldve been proud. reasons like this EU thing stop me from ever wanting to bring children into this world |
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| brianoflondon | Nov 28 2010, 03:46 PM Post #12 |
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Until Islam has its status as a religion removed, we are in grave danger. |
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Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009. Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century. They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back. | |
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| Yorkshireminer | Nov 28 2010, 03:53 PM Post #13 |
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C) means that you would have to report to the police station or what ever restrictions they put on you. It Big Brother pure and simple D) simple means they can bankrupt you and confiscate your assets. Look up the definition of ( Legal Person) It doesn't mean what you think it means basically it means a legal entity that can be sued. If the EDL organisation comes under the description of legal person. They can sue it under these regulations and bankrupt it. This gives them the ability to legally smother dissent if they don't like it, totalitarian fascism pure and simple. 2. When establishing jurisdiction in accordance with paragraph 1(a), each Member State shall take the necessary measures to ensure that its jurisdiction extends to cases where the conduct is committed through an information system and: (a) the offender commits the conduct when physically present in its territory, whether or not the conduct involves material hosted on an information system in its territory; (b) the conduct involves material hosted on an information system in its territory, whether or not the offender commits the conduct when present in its territory. This means that they have got all their bases covered as the Americans would say All bloggers In Europe now can be summoned for what they say, it also means that an American or anybody else in the world can be arrested if they uses a European server for there blog, that is if he is stupid enough to come too Europe. As I said be frightened very frightened |
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| Idjut Bungmewonga | Nov 28 2010, 03:59 PM Post #14 |
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Why has'nt the mass media covered this ? it should be in every newspaper, I hope UKIP can kick up a stink over it. |
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| smudge | Nov 28 2010, 04:01 PM Post #15 |
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It is worrying. I do believe though that the EU will collapse. I did read somewhere Germany has already started printing its old currency. If it all does collapse I bet the government will keep some of the restricting laws passed by the EU. especially the ones that deny us free speach except for the mossies. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 04:02 PM Post #16 |
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Who are these people? I never voted for any of this! NOBODY ASKED ME!!!! |
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| Yorkshireminer | Nov 28 2010, 04:10 PM Post #17 |
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To put it quiet bluntly they wont go and fcuk themselves they will fcuk you or at least screw you up if it is in there best interests Don't think that they wont and can't prosecute you for hating those who hate you, they will if it is in there best interest, they make the laws, not only do they make the laws but they define what Xenophobia is , they have to do it because they reserve the right to instigate proceedings on behalf of some poor bugger or legal person who doesn't know that he is suffering from racial or xenophobic hatred. These are thought crime laws pure and simple and you and me are now guilty until proven innocent, and seeing as guilty is the flavour of the month, we are screwed.
I am certain UKIP knows about this if they don't then they should do they are in the Belly of the beast in Brussels. Unfortunately nothing is going to happen until we get out of the E.U. and renounce the Lisbon treaty. UKIP are powerless to do anything at the moment. It might not be a bad idea to send them an E-mail with the link I posted, might shake them up. Of cause they are not going to ask you, they are not stupid, you would have said no like me and the majority of the Brits, and who ever they are they don't have your and my best interests at heart. I now pronounce Democracy dead. devoid of life in the E.U. by the way these people go under the collective name of Big Brother unlike these people who still suffer under the delusion that they are still free, sarcasm off. There is still some sanity in the world. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/26/iceland-elects-ordinary-folk-draft-constitution/?test=latestnews so there is a least some hope. Edited by Yorkshireminer, Nov 28 2010, 04:28 PM.
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| JDofENGLAND | Nov 28 2010, 04:42 PM Post #18 |
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Some parts could be used for good, publicly condoning, denying or grossly trivialising crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes as defined in Articles 6, 7 and 8 of the Statute of the International Criminal Court, directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin whenthe conduct is carried out in a manner likely to incite to violence or hatred against such a group or a member of. I think u could apply that to most of what M.A.C stand for such a group; |
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 05:26 PM Post #19 |
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Yep. Plans to make what i would call a one continent 'grey' state are in full force. Patriotism banned Free thought banned However i feel you should be looking to become a father. The more Patriotic and Properly educated (not socialist social engeniering crap) childeren the better. |
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| Bob England | Nov 28 2010, 05:45 PM Post #20 |
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Yeap! Remember that traitor Brown? Promised us a referendum and then went back on it because he (they) knew the British people didn't agree! Oh and Mr Cameron, didn't he say something along those lines if he gained power? TRAITOROUS SCUM!!!! |
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 05:50 PM Post #21 |
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the eu is and always was a fascist state ... the chickens are coming home to roost as the farce is being exposed and the country and other European citizens are finally waking up to this dictatorship... sooner its destroyed the better tbh |
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| Capt Haddock | Nov 28 2010, 05:57 PM Post #22 |
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Looks like to me they are trying to brainwash everybody with their own personal agenda. Seems freedom of speech is not going to be very free at all in the future, they're intent on steam rolling ahead with their multicultural cuckoo land, even the though the evidence contradicts their reasoning, especially with the followers of Islam. However, being bleeding hearts, they've intentionally laid down the law to protect the 'special ones.' Europe is certainly not moving in the right direction as far as I'm concerned. |
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| englandman | Nov 28 2010, 06:08 PM Post #23 |
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cant get the pdf Edited by englandman, Nov 28 2010, 06:08 PM.
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 06:19 PM Post #24 |
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guess your right and englandman - not working for me either |
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| Revolutionary101 | Nov 28 2010, 06:28 PM Post #25 |
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The link isn't working for me but judging by parts which have been posted it looks like we're losing a lot more of our freedom. When will they stop introducing these oppressive new laws? Isn't a government meant to serve it's people? This would make EDL an illegal organisation wouldn't it? OUT OF EU NOW! |
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 06:57 PM Post #26 |
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Why is the government so blind? We're losing our freedom it seems, and what are the politicians doing about it? |
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III (Acts adopted under the EU Treaty) ACTS ADOPTED UNDER TITLE VI OF THE EU TREATY COUNCIL FRAMEWORK DECISION 2008/913/JHA of 28 November 2008 on combating certain forms and expressions of racism and xenophobia by means of criminal law THE COUNCIL OF THE EUROPEAN UNION, Having regard to the Treaty on European Union, and in particular Articles 29, 31 and 34(2)(b) thereof, Having regard to the proposal from the Commission, Having regard to the Opinion of the European Parliament (1), Whereas: (1) Racism and xenophobia are direct violations of the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms and the rule of law, principles upon which the European Union is founded and which are common to the Member States. (2) The Action Plan of the Council and the Commission on how best to implement the provisions of the Treaty of Amsterdam on an area of freedom, security and justice (2), the Conclusions of the Tampere European Council of 15 and 16 October 1999, the Resolution of the European Parliament of 20 September 2000 on the European Union’s position at the World Conference Against Racism and the current situation in the Union (3) and the Communication from the Commission to the Council and the European Parliament on the biannual update of the Scoreboard to review progress on the creation of an area of ‘freedom, security and justice’ in the European Union (second half of 2000) call for action in this field. In the Hague Programme of 4 and 5 November 2004, the Council recalls its firm commitment to oppose any form of racism, anti- Semitism and xenophobia as already expressed by the European Council in December 2003. (3) Council Joint Action 96/443/JHA of 15 July 1996 concerning action to combat racism and xenophobia (4) should be followed by further legislative action addressing the need for further approximation of law and regulations of Member States and for overcoming obstacles for efficient judicial cooperation which are mainly based on the divergence of legal approaches in the Member States. (4) According to the evaluation of Joint Action 96/443/JHA and work carried out in other international fora, such as the Council of Europe, some difficulties have still been experienced regarding judicial cooperation and therefore there is a need for further approximation of Member States’ criminal laws in order to ensure the effective implementation of comprehensive and clear legislation to combat racism and xenophobia. (5) Racism and xenophobia constitute a threat against groups of persons which are the target of such behaviour. It is necessary to define a common criminallaw approach in the European Union to this phenomenon in order to ensure that the same behaviour constitutes an offence in all Member States and that effective, proportionate and dissuasive penalties are provided for natural and legal persons having committed or being liable for such offences. (6) Member States acknowledge that combating racism and xenophobia requires various kinds of measures in a comprehensive framework and may not be limited to criminal matters. This Framework Decision is limited to combating particularly serious forms of racism and xenophobia by means of criminal law. Since the Member States’ cultural and legal traditions are, to some extent, different, particularly in this field, full harmonisation of criminal laws is currently not possible. 6.12.2008 EN Official Journal of the European Union L 328/55 (1) Opinion of 29 November 2007 (not yet published in the Official Journal). (2) OJ C 19, 23.1.1999, p. 1. (3) OJ C 146, 17.5.2001, p. 110. (4) OJ L 185, 24.7.1996, p. 5. (7) In this Framework Decision ‘descent’ should be understood as referring mainly to persons or groups of persons who descend from persons who could be identified by certain characteristics (such as race or colour), but not necessarily all of these characteristics still exist. In spite of that, because of their descent, such persons or groups of persons may be subject to hatred or violence. (8) ‘Religion’ should be understood as broadly referring to persons defined by reference to their religious convictions or beliefs. (9) ‘Hatred’ should be understood as referring to hatred based on race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin. (10) This Framework Decision does not prevent a Member State from adopting provisions in national law which extend Article 1(1)(c) and (d) to crimes directed against a group of persons defined by other criteria than race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin, such as social status or political convictions. (11) It should be ensured that investigations and prosecutions of offences involving racism and xenophobia are not dependent on reports or accusations made by victims, who are often particularly vulnerable and reluctant to initiate legal proceedings. (12) Approximation of criminal law should lead to combating racist and xenophobic offences more effectively, by promoting a full and effective judicial cooperation between Member States. The difficulties which may exist in this field should be taken into account by the Council when reviewing this Framework Decision with a view to considering whether further steps in this area are necessary. (13) Since the objective of this Framework Decision, namely ensuring that racist and xenophobic offences are sanctioned in all Member States by at least a minimum level of effective, proportionate and dissuasive criminal penalties, cannot be sufficiently achieved by the Member States individually, since such rules have to be common and compatible and since this objective can therefore be better achieved at the level of the European Union, the Union may adopt measures, in accordance with the principle of subsidiarity as referred to in Article 2 of the Treaty on European Union and as set out in Article 5 of the Treaty establishing the European Community. In accordance with the principle of proportionality, as set out in the latter Article, this Framework Decision does not go beyond what is necessary in order to achieve that objective. (14) This Framework Decision respects the fundamental rights and observes the principles recognised by Article 6 of the Treaty on European Union and by the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, in particular Articles 10 and 11 thereof, and reflected in the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, and notably Chapters II and VI thereof. (15) Considerations relating to freedom of association and freedom of expression, in particular freedom of the press and freedom of expression in other media have led in many Member States to procedural guarantees and to special rules in national law as to the determination or limitation of liability. (16) Joint Action 96/443/JHA should be repealed since, with the entry into force of the Treaty of Amsterdam, Council Directive 2000/43/EC of 29 June 2000 implementing the principle of equal treatment between persons irrespective of racial or ethnic origin (1) and this Framework Decision, it becomes obsolete, HAS ADOPTED THIS FRAMEWORK DECISION: Article 1 Offences concerning racism and xenophobia 1. Each Member State shall take the measures necessary to ensure that the following intentional conduct is punishable: (a) publicly inciting to violence or hatred directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin; (b) the commission of an act referred to in point (a) by public dissemination or distribution of tracts, pictures or other material; (c) publicly condoning, denying or grossly trivialising crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes as defined in Articles 6, 7 and 8 of the Statute of the International Criminal Court, directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin when the conduct is carried out in a manner likely to incite to violence or hatred against such a group or a member of such a group; (d) publicly condoning, denying or grossly trivialising the crimes defined in Article 6 of the Charter of the International Military Tribunal appended to the London Agreement of 8 August 1945, directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin when the conduct is carried out in a manner likely to incite to violence or hatred against such a group or a member of such a group. L 328/56 EN Official Journal of the European Union 6.12.2008 (1) OJ L 180, 19.7.2000, p. 22. 2. For the purpose of paragraph 1, Member States may choose to punish only conduct which is either carried out in a manner likely to disturb public order or which is threatening, abusive or insulting. 3. For the purpose of paragraph 1, the reference to religion is intended to cover, at least, conduct which is a pretext for directing acts against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin. 4. Any Member State may, on adoption of this Framework Decision or later, make a statement that it will make punishable the act of denying or grossly trivialising the crimes referred to in paragraph 1(c) and/or (d) only if the crimes referred to in these paragraphs have been established by a final decision of a national court of this Member State and/or an international court, or by a final decision of an international court only. Article 2 Instigation, aiding and abetting 1. Each Member State shall take the measures necessary to ensure that instigating the conduct referred to in Article 1(1)(c) and (d) is punishable. 2. Each Member State shall take the measures necessary to ensure that aiding and abetting in the commission of the conduct referred to in Article 1 is punishable. Article 3 Criminal penalties 1. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to ensure that the conduct referred to in Articles 1 and 2 is punishable by effective, proportionate and dissuasive criminal penalties. 2. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to ensure that the conduct referred to in Article 1 is punishable by criminal penalties of a maximum of at least between 1 and 3 years of imprisonment. Article 4 Racist and xenophobic motivation For offences other than those referred to in Articles 1 and 2, Member States shall take the necessary measures to ensure that racist and xenophobic motivation is considered an aggravating circumstance, or, alternatively that such motivation may be taken into consideration by the courts in the determination of the penalties. Article 5 Liability of legal persons 1. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to ensure that a legal person can be held liable for the conduct referred to in Articles 1 and 2, committed for its benefit by any person, acting either individually or as part of an organ of the legal person, who has a leading position within the legal person, based on: (a) a power of representation of the legal person; (b) an authority to take decisions on behalf of the legal person; or (c) an authority to exercise control within the legal person. 2. Apart from the cases provided for in paragraph 1 of this Article, each Member State shall take the necessary measures to ensure that a legal person can be held liable where the lack of supervision or control by a person referred to in paragraph 1 of this Article has made possible the commission of the conduct referred to in Articles 1 and 2 for the benefit of that legal person by a person under its authority. 3. Liability of a legal person under paragraphs 1 and 2 of this Article shall not exclude criminal proceedings against natural persons who are perpetrators or accessories in the conduct referred to in Articles 1 and 2. 4. ‘Legal person’ means any entity having such status under the applicable national law, with the exception of States or other public bodies in the exercise of State authority and public international organisations. Article 6 Penalties for legal persons 1. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to ensure that a legal person held liable pursuant to Article 5(1) is punishable by effective, proportionate and dissuasive penalties, which shall include criminal or non-criminal fines and may include other penalties, such as: (a) exclusion from entitlement to public benefits or aid; (b) temporary or permanent disqualification from the practice of commercial activities; (c) placing under judicial supervision; (d) a judicial winding-up order. 2. Member States shall take the necessary measures to ensure that a legal person held liable pursuant to Article 5(2) is punishable by effective, proportionate and dissuasive penalties or measures. Article 7 Constitutional rules and fundamental principles 1. This Framework Decision shall not have the effect of modifying the obligation to respect fundamental rights and fundamental legal principles, including freedom of expression and association, as enshrined in Article 6 of the Treaty on European Union. 6.12.2008 EN Official Journal of the European Union L 328/57 2. This Framework Decision shall not have the effect of requiring Member States to take measures in contradiction to fundamental principles relating to freedom of association and freedom of expression, in particular freedom of the press and the freedom of expression in other media as they result from constitutional traditions or rules governing the rights and responsibilities of, and the procedural guarantees for, the press or other media where these rules relate to the determination or limitation of liability. Article 8 Initiation of investigation or prosecution Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to ensure that investigations into or prosecution of the conduct referred to in Articles 1 and 2 shall not be dependent on a report or an accusation made by a victim of the conduct, at least in the most serious cases where the conduct has been committed in its territory. Article 9 Jurisdiction 1. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to establish its jurisdiction with regard to the conduct referred to in Articles 1 and 2 where the conduct has been committed: (a) in whole or in part within its territory; (b) by one of its nationals; or (c) for the benefit of a legal person that has its head office in the territory of that Member State. 2. When establishing jurisdiction in accordance with paragraph 1(a), each Member State shall take the necessary measures to ensure that its jurisdiction extends to cases where the conduct is committed through an information system and: (a) the offender commits the conduct when physically present in its territory, whether or not the conduct involves material hosted on an information system in its territory; (b) the conduct involves material hosted on an information system in its territory, whether or not the offender commits the conduct when physically present in its territory. 3. A Member State may decide not to apply, or to apply only in specific cases or circumstances, the jurisdiction rule set out in paragraphs 1(b) and (c). Article 10 Implementation and review 1. Member States shall take the necessary measures to comply with the provisions of this Framework Decision by 28 November 2010. 2. By the same date Member States shall transmit to the General Secretariat of the Council and to the Commission the text of the provisions transposing into their national law the obligations imposed on them under this Framework Decision. On the basis of a report established using this information by the Council and a written report from the Commission, the Council shall, by 28 November 2013, assess the extent to which Member States have complied with the provisions of this Framework Decision. 3. Before 28 November 2013, the Council shall review this Framework Decision. For the preparation of this review, the Council shall ask Member States whether they have experienced difficulties in judicial cooperation with regard to the conduct under Article 1(1). In addition, the Council may request Eurojust to submit a report, on whether differences between national legislations have resulted in any problems regarding judicial cooperation between the Member States in this area. Article 11 Repeal of Joint Action 96/443/JHA Joint Action 96/443/JHA is hereby repealed. Article 12 Territorial application This Framework Decision shall apply to Gibraltar. Article 13 Entry into force This Framework Decision shall enter into force on the day of its publication in the Official Journal of the European Union. Done at Brussels, 28 November 2008. For the Council The President M. ALLIOT-MARIE L 328/58 EN Official Journal of the European Union 6.12.2008 |
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| lancastrian | Nov 28 2010, 11:39 PM Post #28 |
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This is bloody terrifying |
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| Deleted User | Nov 28 2010, 11:45 PM Post #29 |
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Well if a fcuking 50000 students can do a couple of kicks off's in England and a 100000 Irish can protest then this sh1t should be getting a million a country for protest yet i feel alot of our europeans don't have a clue. fcuk Karl Marx. |
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| Corni | Nov 29 2010, 02:03 AM Post #30 |
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This is the most important issue on the EDL board at the moment. |
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| Judge Mental | Nov 29 2010, 02:41 AM Post #31 |
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So what happens if Turkey is admitted to the EU? They can start rounding up "islamophobes" from anywhere in Europe! |
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| Deleted User | Nov 29 2010, 02:44 AM Post #32 |
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Exactly that. |
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| Sargeant KoranFlusher | Nov 29 2010, 02:59 AM Post #33 |
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Is it time to get all English patriots moving into a central location for their own safety? |
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| Deleted User | Nov 29 2010, 03:08 AM Post #34 |
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Bit extreme. Somebody will no doubt let us know when it gets to that stage. |
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| Judge Mental | Nov 29 2010, 04:23 AM Post #35 |
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I suppose one use of the law is to bury the legal department responsible in paper. Lodge a complaint against every cleric, mullah, community leader or spokesman who calls infidels apes and/or pigs, makes an antisemitic remark, publishes an antisemitic cartoon or waves a derogatory placard. They won't act on them, but enough paper should clog the system. |
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| brianoflondon | Nov 29 2010, 06:13 AM Post #36 |
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If we could get INFIDEL declared as a religion too, we might stand a chance with this great suggestion. |
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Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009. Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century. They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back. | |
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| Judge Mental | Nov 29 2010, 06:35 AM Post #37 |
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Well, Judaism, Christianity and Sikhism are. Atheism might need a court case, but if slagging off gays qualifies as hate speech, then so should slagging off atheists. |
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| brianoflondon | Nov 29 2010, 06:46 AM Post #38 |
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Totally agree. Though what marks Jews and Sikhs out to a certain degree is the racial element. |
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Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009. Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century. They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back. | |
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| straightliner | Nov 29 2010, 06:47 AM Post #39 |
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The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. This was said a long time ago by a very wise man. Take a look at the recent history of England alone, a law to cover anything that the state wants to control, from the possession of firearms by law abiding citizens, leaving them defenceless to putting pensioners in prison for not paying their poll tax. The classic book 1984 was just ahead of its time. Islam is a real threat but never forget that our own government is as big, if not a bigger threat. Without their complicity Islam would be a minor irritation in the UK. |
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