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Tomorrow The E.U. becomes a Fascist State; New regulations governing xenophobia
Topic Started: Nov 28 2010, 02:37 PM (469 Views)
Yorkshireminer
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Firstly I would like to have this pinned, I think it is very important.
Secondly I would like many here spend as they like to say some long quality time too read it and really understand it, It is going to affect you and your Children and Grandchildren for all time, it is bloody frightening

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2008:328:0055:0058:EN:PDF

When you have read it shake with fear. With the new European arrest warrant now in place if you did but know it, anybody can accuse you of breaking the laws of the country where they live and issue an arrest warrant, Imagine how Turkey would use this if they were a member of the E.U. Our police would then have to arrest you and hand you over to the European police force who have diplomatic immunity who would then transport you to the country who had issued the warrant to stand trial. There is no appeal.

I am reminded of Greys comment at the beginning of the first World War. ( The lights are going out over Europe and I don't think we will see them lit again in our lifetime)

I fear we are entering a new dark age.
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Disband the EU! :templar:

An as big or bigger threat than Islam.
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1. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to
ensure that a legal person held liable pursuant to Article 5(1) is
punishable by effective, proportionate and dissuasive penalties,
which shall include criminal or non-criminal fines and may
include other penalties, such as:
(a) exclusion from entitlement to public benefits or aid;
(b) temporary or permanent disqualification from the practice
of commercial activities;
(c) placing under judicial supervision;
(d) a judicial winding-up order.


So, in addition to any fines/imprisonment any benefits will be stopped and they can stop you from working too.
I'm not sure about parts c and d, does this mean they can monitor you for further offences?

We need to pull out of the EU immediately.
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I must have missed the bit that said:
"Islam and islamists are to be exempted from these laws therefore should not be prosecuted for infringement of the said laws" or some such sh1te. FFS!
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That goes without saying, as they are always the victims. ;)
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Jeez, we are fighting for our survival here, we are being invaded at every level,

I can't understand how we have sleep walked into it...and still we don't wake up.
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Offences concerning racism and xenophobia
1. Each Member State shall take the measures necessary to
ensure that the following intentional conduct is punishable:
(a) publicly inciting to violence or hatred directed against a
group of persons or a member of such a group defined
by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national
or ethnic origin;
(b) the commission of an act referred to in point (a) by public
dissemination or distribution of tracts, pictures or other
material;
(c) publicly condoning, denying or grossly trivialising crimes of
genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes as
defined in Articles 6, 7 and 8 of the Statute of the International
Criminal Court, directed against a group of persons
or a member of such a group defined by reference to race,
colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin when
the conduct is carried out in a manner likely to incite to
violence or hatred against such a group or a member of
such a group;

Penalties for legal persons
1. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to
ensure that a legal person held liable pursuant to Article 5(1) is
punishable by effective, proportionate and dissuasive penalties,
which shall include criminal or non-criminal fines and may
include other penalties, such as:
(a) exclusion from entitlement to public benefits or aid;

So Anjem should get his dole stopped?
Sorry, I'm being wishfully flippant, there.
Seriously, this is the most worrying document I have ever read.

PARTICULARLY THIS.
(11) It should be ensured that investigations and prosecutions
of offences involving racism and xenophobia are not
dependent on reports or accusations made by victims,
who are often particularly vulnerable and reluctant to
initiate legal proceedings.

SO WE CAN GET NICKED ON THE STRENGTH OF SOME FEEBLE-MINDED LEFTY COMPLAINING ON BEHALF OF A THIRD PARTY.
WE SERIOUSLY NEED TO BE OUT OF THE EU, LIVELY.

To the OP. Well done finding this document and I also think it should be pinned, FWIW
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well fcuk me looks like freedom of speach has fluttered into history,god save us all
"THEY CALL ME THE PUPET BOY BUT IM THE ONE PULLING THE STRINGS" GURAMIT SINGH
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They can go fcuk themselves.

Let's see them prosecute all of us for hating those who hate us too.
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Am I being a bit dim (and the rest of the document is truely a work worth of the desk of Winston Smith from 1984) but what does the following mean:

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Article 12
Territorial application
This Framework Decision shall apply to Gibraltar.
Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009.


Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century.
They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back.
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seen this coming and rambled on for years about the EU dictatorship coming., hitler wouldve been proud.
reasons like this EU thing stop me from ever wanting to bring children into this world
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Until Islam has its status as a religion removed, we are in grave danger.
Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009.


Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century.
They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back.
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Nov 28 2010, 02:58 PM
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1. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to
ensure that a legal person held liable pursuant to Article 5(1) is
punishable by effective, proportionate and dissuasive penalties,
which shall include criminal or non-criminal fines and may
include other penalties, such as:
(a) exclusion from entitlement to public benefits or aid;
(b) temporary or permanent disqualification from the practice
of commercial activities;
(c) placing under judicial supervision;
(d) a judicial winding-up order.


So, in addition to any fines/imprisonment any benefits will be stopped and they can stop you from working too.
I'm not sure about parts c and d, does this mean they can monitor you for further offences?

We need to pull out of the EU immediately.
C) means that you would have to report to the police station or what ever restrictions they put on you. It Big Brother pure and simple
D) simple means they can bankrupt you and confiscate your assets.

Look up the definition of ( Legal Person) It doesn't mean what you think it means basically it means a legal entity that can be sued. If the EDL organisation comes under the description of legal person. They can sue it under these regulations and bankrupt it. This gives them the ability to legally smother dissent if they don't like it, totalitarian fascism pure and simple.


2. When establishing jurisdiction in accordance with
paragraph 1(a), each Member State shall take the necessary
measures to ensure that its jurisdiction extends to cases where
the conduct is committed through an information system and:

(a) the offender commits the conduct when physically present
in its territory, whether or not the conduct involves material
hosted on an information system in its territory;

(b) the conduct involves material hosted on an information
system in its territory, whether or not the offender
commits the conduct when present in its
territory.

This means that they have got all their bases covered as the Americans would say

All bloggers In Europe now can be summoned for what they say, it also means that an American or anybody else in the world can be arrested if they uses a European server for there blog, that is if he is stupid enough to come too Europe.

As I said be frightened very frightened
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Why has'nt the mass media covered this ? it should be in every newspaper, I hope UKIP can kick up a stink over it.
Winston Churchill on Islam ; ' The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world....
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It is worrying. I do believe though that the EU will collapse. I did read somewhere Germany has already started printing its old currency.
If it all does collapse I bet the government will keep some of the restricting laws passed by the EU.
especially the ones that deny us free speach except for the mossies.
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Who are these people? I never voted for any of this! NOBODY ASKED ME!!!!
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Scott_Lee
Nov 28 2010, 03:26 PM
They can go fcuk themselves.

Let's see them prosecute all of us for hating those who hate us too.
To put it quiet bluntly they wont go and fcuk themselves they will fcuk you or at least screw you up if it is in there best interests

Don't think that they wont and can't prosecute you for hating those who hate you, they will if it is in there best interest, they make the laws, not only do they make the laws but they define what Xenophobia is , they have to do it because they reserve the right to instigate proceedings on behalf of some poor bugger or legal person who doesn't know that he is suffering from racial or xenophobic hatred. These are thought crime laws pure and simple and you and me are now guilty until proven innocent, and seeing as guilty is the flavour of the month, we are screwed.
Idjut Bungmewonga
Nov 28 2010, 03:59 PM
Why has'nt the mass media covered this ? it should be in every newspaper, I hope UKIP can kick up a stink over it.

I am certain UKIP knows about this if they don't then they should do they are in the Belly of the beast in Brussels. Unfortunately nothing is going to happen until we get out of the E.U. and renounce the Lisbon treaty. UKIP are powerless to do anything at the moment. It might not be a bad idea to send them an E-mail with the link I posted, might shake them up.
Scott_Lee
Nov 28 2010, 04:02 PM
Who are these people? I never voted for any of this! NOBODY ASKED ME!!!!
Of cause they are not going to ask you, they are not stupid, you would have said no like me and the majority of the Brits, and who ever they are they don't have your and my best interests at heart. I now pronounce Democracy dead. devoid of life in the E.U. by the way these people go under the collective name of Big Brother

unlike these people who still suffer under the delusion that they are still free, sarcasm off. There is still some sanity in the world.


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/26/iceland-elects-ordinary-folk-draft-constitution/?test=latestnews

so there is a least some hope.
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Some parts could be used for good, publicly condoning, denying or grossly trivialising crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes as defined in Articles 6, 7 and 8 of the Statute of the International Criminal Court, directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin whenthe conduct is carried out in a manner likely to incite to violence or hatred against such a group or a member of. I think u could apply that to most of what M.A.C stand for
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Nov 28 2010, 03:46 PM
seen this coming and rambled on for years about the EU dictatorship coming., hitler wouldve been proud.
reasons like this EU thing stop me from ever wanting to bring children into this world
Yep.

Plans to make what i would call a one continent 'grey' state are in full force.

Patriotism banned
Free thought banned

However i feel you should be looking to become a father.

The more Patriotic and Properly educated (not socialist social engeniering crap) childeren the better.
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Nov 28 2010, 04:02 PM
Who are these people? I never voted for any of this! NOBODY ASKED ME!!!!
Yeap! Remember that traitor Brown? Promised us a referendum and then went back on it because he (they) knew the British people didn't agree! Oh and Mr Cameron, didn't he say something along those lines if he gained power? TRAITOROUS SCUM!!!!
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the eu is and always was a fascist state ...

the chickens are coming home to roost as the farce is being exposed and the country and other European citizens are finally waking up to this dictatorship... sooner its destroyed the better tbh
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Looks like to me they are trying to brainwash everybody with their own personal agenda. Seems freedom of speech is not going to be very free at all in the future, they're intent on steam rolling ahead with their multicultural cuckoo land, even the though the evidence contradicts their reasoning, especially with the followers of Islam. However, being bleeding hearts, they've intentionally laid down the law to protect the 'special ones.' Europe is certainly not moving in the right direction as far as I'm concerned.
Blistering Barnacles!
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cant get the pdf :'(
Edited by englandman, Nov 28 2010, 06:08 PM.
"Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." George Orwell
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The more Patriotic and Properly educated (not socialist social engeniering crap) childeren the better.
guess your right
and englandman - not working for me either
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The link isn't working for me but judging by parts which have been posted it looks like we're losing a lot more of our freedom. When will they stop introducing these oppressive new laws? Isn't a government meant to serve it's people?
This would make EDL an illegal organisation wouldn't it?


OUT OF EU NOW!
"It's not the size of the man, it's the size of his heart"
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Why is the government so blind? We're losing our freedom it seems, and what are the politicians doing about it?
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III
(Acts adopted under the EU Treaty)
ACTS ADOPTED UNDER TITLE VI OF THE EU TREATY
COUNCIL FRAMEWORK DECISION 2008/913/JHA
of 28 November 2008
on combating certain forms and expressions of racism and xenophobia by means of criminal law
THE COUNCIL OF THE EUROPEAN UNION,
Having regard to the Treaty on European Union, and in
particular Articles 29, 31 and 34(2)(b) thereof,
Having regard to the proposal from the Commission,
Having regard to the Opinion of the European Parliament (1),
Whereas:
(1) Racism and xenophobia are direct violations of the principles
of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and
fundamental freedoms and the rule of law, principles
upon which the European Union is founded and which
are common to the Member States.
(2) The Action Plan of the Council and the Commission on
how best to implement the provisions of the Treaty of
Amsterdam on an area of freedom, security and
justice (2), the Conclusions of the Tampere European
Council of 15 and 16 October 1999, the Resolution of
the European Parliament of 20 September 2000 on the
European Union’s position at the World Conference
Against Racism and the current situation in the
Union (3) and the Communication from the Commission
to the Council and the European Parliament on the
biannual update of the Scoreboard to review progress
on the creation of an area of ‘freedom, security and
justice’ in the European Union (second half of 2000)
call for action in this field. In the Hague Programme of
4 and 5 November 2004, the Council recalls its firm
commitment to oppose any form of racism, anti-
Semitism and xenophobia as already expressed by the
European Council in December 2003.
(3) Council Joint Action 96/443/JHA of 15 July 1996
concerning action to combat racism and xenophobia (4)
should be followed by further legislative action
addressing the need for further approximation of law
and regulations of Member States and for overcoming
obstacles for efficient judicial cooperation which are
mainly based on the divergence of legal approaches in
the Member States.
(4) According to the evaluation of Joint Action 96/443/JHA
and work carried out in other international fora, such as
the Council of Europe, some difficulties have still been
experienced regarding judicial cooperation and therefore
there is a need for further approximation of Member
States’ criminal laws in order to ensure the effective implementation
of comprehensive and clear legislation to
combat racism and xenophobia.
(5) Racism and xenophobia constitute a threat against
groups of persons which are the target of such
behaviour. It is necessary to define a common criminallaw
approach in the European Union to this
phenomenon in order to ensure that the same
behaviour constitutes an offence in all Member States
and that effective, proportionate and dissuasive
penalties are provided for natural and legal persons
having committed or being liable for such offences.
(6) Member States acknowledge that combating racism and
xenophobia requires various kinds of measures in a
comprehensive framework and may not be limited to
criminal matters. This Framework Decision is limited to
combating particularly serious forms of racism and xenophobia
by means of criminal law. Since the Member
States’ cultural and legal traditions are, to some extent,
different, particularly in this field, full harmonisation of
criminal laws is currently not possible.
6.12.2008 EN Official Journal of the European Union L 328/55
(1) Opinion of 29 November 2007 (not yet published in the Official
Journal).
(2) OJ C 19, 23.1.1999, p. 1.
(3) OJ C 146, 17.5.2001, p. 110. (4) OJ L 185, 24.7.1996, p. 5.
(7) In this Framework Decision ‘descent’ should be
understood as referring mainly to persons or groups of
persons who descend from persons who could be identified
by certain characteristics (such as race or colour), but
not necessarily all of these characteristics still exist. In
spite of that, because of their descent, such persons or
groups of persons may be subject to hatred or violence.
(8) ‘Religion’ should be understood as broadly referring to
persons defined by reference to their religious
convictions or beliefs.
(9) ‘Hatred’ should be understood as referring to hatred
based on race, colour, religion, descent or national or
ethnic origin.
(10) This Framework Decision does not prevent a Member
State from adopting provisions in national law which
extend Article 1(1)(c) and (d) to crimes directed against
a group of persons defined by other criteria than race,
colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin, such
as social status or political convictions.
(11) It should be ensured that investigations and prosecutions
of offences involving racism and xenophobia are not
dependent on reports or accusations made by victims,
who are often particularly vulnerable and reluctant to
initiate legal proceedings.
(12) Approximation of criminal law should lead to combating
racist and xenophobic offences more effectively, by
promoting a full and effective judicial cooperation
between Member States. The difficulties which may
exist in this field should be taken into account by the
Council when reviewing this Framework Decision with a
view to considering whether further steps in this area are
necessary.
(13) Since the objective of this Framework Decision, namely
ensuring that racist and xenophobic offences are sanctioned
in all Member States by at least a minimum level
of effective, proportionate and dissuasive criminal
penalties, cannot be sufficiently achieved by the
Member States individually, since such rules have to be
common and compatible and since this objective can
therefore be better achieved at the level of the
European Union, the Union may adopt measures, in
accordance with the principle of subsidiarity as referred
to in Article 2 of the Treaty on European Union and as
set out in Article 5 of the Treaty establishing the
European Community. In accordance with the principle
of proportionality, as set out in the latter Article, this
Framework Decision does not go beyond what is
necessary in order to achieve that objective.
(14) This Framework Decision respects the fundamental rights
and observes the principles recognised by Article 6 of the
Treaty on European Union and by the European
Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and
Fundamental Freedoms, in particular Articles 10 and
11 thereof, and reflected in the Charter of Fundamental
Rights of the European Union, and notably Chapters II
and VI thereof.
(15) Considerations relating to freedom of association and
freedom of expression, in particular freedom of the
press and freedom of expression in other media have
led in many Member States to procedural guarantees
and to special rules in national law as to the
determination or limitation of liability.
(16) Joint Action 96/443/JHA should be repealed since, with
the entry into force of the Treaty of Amsterdam, Council
Directive 2000/43/EC of 29 June 2000 implementing the
principle of equal treatment between persons irrespective
of racial or ethnic origin (1) and this Framework Decision,
it becomes obsolete,
HAS ADOPTED THIS FRAMEWORK DECISION:
Article 1
Offences concerning racism and xenophobia
1. Each Member State shall take the measures necessary to
ensure that the following intentional conduct is punishable:
(a) publicly inciting to violence or hatred directed against a
group of persons or a member of such a group defined
by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national
or ethnic origin;
(b) the commission of an act referred to in point (a) by public
dissemination or distribution of tracts, pictures or other
material;
(c) publicly condoning, denying or grossly trivialising crimes of
genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes as
defined in Articles 6, 7 and 8 of the Statute of the International
Criminal Court, directed against a group of persons
or a member of such a group defined by reference to race,
colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin when
the conduct is carried out in a manner likely to incite to
violence or hatred against such a group or a member of
such a group;
(d) publicly condoning, denying or grossly trivialising the
crimes defined in Article 6 of the Charter of the International
Military Tribunal appended to the London
Agreement of 8 August 1945, directed against a group of
persons or a member of such a group defined by reference
to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin
when the conduct is carried out in a manner likely to incite
to violence or hatred against such a group or a member of
such a group.
L 328/56 EN Official Journal of the European Union 6.12.2008
(1) OJ L 180, 19.7.2000, p. 22.
2. For the purpose of paragraph 1, Member States may
choose to punish only conduct which is either carried out in
a manner likely to disturb public order or which is threatening,
abusive or insulting.
3. For the purpose of paragraph 1, the reference to religion
is intended to cover, at least, conduct which is a pretext for
directing acts against a group of persons or a member of such a
group defined by reference to race, colour, descent, or national
or ethnic origin.
4. Any Member State may, on adoption of this Framework
Decision or later, make a statement that it will make punishable
the act of denying or grossly trivialising the crimes referred to
in paragraph 1(c) and/or (d) only if the crimes referred to in
these paragraphs have been established by a final decision of a
national court of this Member State and/or an international
court, or by a final decision of an international court only.
Article 2
Instigation, aiding and abetting
1. Each Member State shall take the measures necessary to
ensure that instigating the conduct referred to in Article 1(1)(c)
and (d) is punishable.
2. Each Member State shall take the measures necessary to
ensure that aiding and abetting in the commission of the
conduct referred to in Article 1 is punishable.
Article 3
Criminal penalties
1. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to
ensure that the conduct referred to in Articles 1 and 2 is
punishable by effective, proportionate and dissuasive criminal
penalties.
2. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to
ensure that the conduct referred to in Article 1 is punishable by
criminal penalties of a maximum of at least between 1 and 3
years of imprisonment.
Article 4
Racist and xenophobic motivation
For offences other than those referred to in Articles 1 and 2,
Member States shall take the necessary measures to ensure that
racist and xenophobic motivation is considered an aggravating
circumstance, or, alternatively that such motivation may be
taken into consideration by the courts in the determination of
the penalties.
Article 5
Liability of legal persons
1. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to
ensure that a legal person can be held liable for the conduct
referred to in Articles 1 and 2, committed for its benefit by any
person, acting either individually or as part of an organ of the
legal person, who has a leading position within the legal person,
based on:
(a) a power of representation of the legal person;
(b) an authority to take decisions on behalf of the legal person;
or
(c) an authority to exercise control within the legal person.
2. Apart from the cases provided for in paragraph 1 of this
Article, each Member State shall take the necessary measures to
ensure that a legal person can be held liable where the lack of
supervision or control by a person referred to in paragraph 1 of
this Article has made possible the commission of the conduct
referred to in Articles 1 and 2 for the benefit of that legal
person by a person under its authority.
3. Liability of a legal person under paragraphs 1 and 2 of
this Article shall not exclude criminal proceedings against
natural persons who are perpetrators or accessories in the
conduct referred to in Articles 1 and 2.
4. ‘Legal person’ means any entity having such status under
the applicable national law, with the exception of States or
other public bodies in the exercise of State authority and
public international organisations.
Article 6
Penalties for legal persons
1. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to
ensure that a legal person held liable pursuant to Article 5(1) is
punishable by effective, proportionate and dissuasive penalties,
which shall include criminal or non-criminal fines and may
include other penalties, such as:
(a) exclusion from entitlement to public benefits or aid;
(b) temporary or permanent disqualification from the practice
of commercial activities;
(c) placing under judicial supervision;
(d) a judicial winding-up order.
2. Member States shall take the necessary measures to ensure
that a legal person held liable pursuant to Article 5(2) is
punishable by effective, proportionate and dissuasive penalties
or measures.
Article 7
Constitutional rules and fundamental principles
1. This Framework Decision shall not have the effect of
modifying the obligation to respect fundamental rights and
fundamental legal principles, including freedom of expression
and association, as enshrined in Article 6 of the Treaty on
European Union.
6.12.2008 EN Official Journal of the European Union L 328/57
2. This Framework Decision shall not have the effect of
requiring Member States to take measures in contradiction to
fundamental principles relating to freedom of association and
freedom of expression, in particular freedom of the press and
the freedom of expression in other media as they result from
constitutional traditions or rules governing the rights and
responsibilities of, and the procedural guarantees for, the press
or other media where these rules relate to the determination or
limitation of liability.
Article 8
Initiation of investigation or prosecution
Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to ensure
that investigations into or prosecution of the conduct referred
to in Articles 1 and 2 shall not be dependent on a report or an
accusation made by a victim of the conduct, at least in the most
serious cases where the conduct has been committed in its
territory.
Article 9
Jurisdiction
1. Each Member State shall take the necessary measures to
establish its jurisdiction with regard to the conduct referred to
in Articles 1 and 2 where the conduct has been committed:
(a) in whole or in part within its territory;
(b) by one of its nationals; or
(c) for the benefit of a legal person that has its head office in
the territory of that Member State.
2. When establishing jurisdiction in accordance with
paragraph 1(a), each Member State shall take the necessary
measures to ensure that its jurisdiction extends to cases where
the conduct is committed through an information system and:
(a) the offender commits the conduct when physically present
in its territory, whether or not the conduct involves material
hosted on an information system in its territory;
(b) the conduct involves material hosted on an information
system in its territory, whether or not the offender
commits the conduct when physically present in its
territory.
3. A Member State may decide not to apply, or to apply only
in specific cases or circumstances, the jurisdiction rule set out in
paragraphs 1(b) and (c).
Article 10
Implementation and review
1. Member States shall take the necessary measures to
comply with the provisions of this Framework Decision by
28 November 2010.
2. By the same date Member States shall transmit to the
General Secretariat of the Council and to the Commission the
text of the provisions transposing into their national law the
obligations imposed on them under this Framework Decision.
On the basis of a report established using this information by
the Council and a written report from the Commission, the
Council shall, by 28 November 2013, assess the extent to
which Member States have complied with the provisions of
this Framework Decision.
3. Before 28 November 2013, the Council shall review this
Framework Decision. For the preparation of this review, the
Council shall ask Member States whether they have experienced
difficulties in judicial cooperation with regard to the conduct
under Article 1(1). In addition, the Council may request
Eurojust to submit a report, on whether differences between
national legislations have resulted in any problems regarding
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Joint Action 96/443/JHA is hereby repealed.
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This Framework Decision shall apply to Gibraltar.
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This Framework Decision shall enter into force on the day of its
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Done at Brussels, 28 November 2008.
For the Council
The President
M. ALLIOT-MARIE
L 328/58 EN Official Journal of the European Union 6.12.2008
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This is bloody terrifying
Outlaw sharia law
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Well if a fcuking 50000 students can do a couple of kicks off's in England and a 100000 Irish can protest then this sh1t should be getting a million a country for protest yet i feel alot of our europeans don't have a clue.
fcuk Karl Marx.
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This is the most important issue on the EDL board at the moment.
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So what happens if Turkey is admitted to the EU? They can start rounding up "islamophobes" from anywhere in Europe!
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So what happens if Turkey is admitted to the EU? They can start rounding up "islamophobes" from anywhere in Europe!
Exactly that.
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Bit extreme. Somebody will no doubt let us know when it gets to that stage.
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I suppose one use of the law is to bury the legal department responsible in paper. Lodge a complaint against every cleric, mullah, community leader or spokesman who calls infidels apes and/or pigs, makes an antisemitic remark, publishes an antisemitic cartoon or waves a derogatory placard. They won't act on them, but enough paper should clog the system.
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Nov 29 2010, 04:23 AM
I suppose one use of the law is to bury the legal department responsible in paper. Lodge a complaint against every cleric, mullah, community leader or spokesman who calls infidels apes and/or pigs, makes an antisemitic remark, publishes an antisemitic cartoon or waves a derogatory placard. They won't act on them, but enough paper should clog the system.
If we could get INFIDEL declared as a religion too, we might stand a chance with this great suggestion.
Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009.


Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century.
They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back.
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Judge Mental
Nov 29 2010, 04:23 AM
I suppose one use of the law is to bury the legal department responsible in paper. Lodge a complaint against every cleric, mullah, community leader or spokesman who calls infidels apes and/or pigs, makes an antisemitic remark, publishes an antisemitic cartoon or waves a derogatory placard. They won't act on them, but enough paper should clog the system.
If we could get INFIDEL declared as a religion too, we might stand a chance with this great suggestion.
Well, Judaism, Christianity and Sikhism are. Atheism might need a court case, but if slagging off gays qualifies as hate speech, then so should slagging off atheists.
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Totally agree. Though what marks Jews and Sikhs out to a certain degree is the racial element.
Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009.


Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century.
They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back.
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The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. This was said a long time ago by a very wise man. Take a look at the recent history of England alone, a law to cover anything that the state wants to control, from the possession of firearms by law abiding citizens, leaving them defenceless to putting pensioners in prison for not paying their poll tax. The classic book 1984 was just ahead of its time. Islam is a real threat but never forget that our own government is as big, if not a bigger threat. Without their complicity Islam would be a minor irritation in the UK.
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