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vaticans step in the right direction(condoms)
Topic Started: Nov 27 2010, 10:12 AM (52 Views)
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http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news-headlines/49801/condoning-condoms-comes-as-a-relief

stepping up to the mark?i think so do you.

keep the faith

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CONDOMS 'STILL FORBIDDEN' DESPITE POPE'S CHANGE OF HEART ABOUT AIDS FIGHT

Irish Dally Mail, Monday, November 22, 2010
By Catherlne Fegan

CATHOLICS should not take the Pope's surprise statement about condoms as perrmssron to use contraceptives, a devout Catholic group warned yesterday.

Pope Benedict XVI, who has. been criticised in the past for refusmg to approve of condoms' .in. t.he fight against HIV and Aids, said It IS accept­able to use them m some cases, giving the example of male prostitutes. .
But David Quinn of the Iona Institute said Catholics should not take the remarks out of context and interpret them as a reversal of Church doctrine.
'What the Pope has said should is certainly not an approval of the use of condoms as a form of contraception,' he said. 'This must not be seen as a form of approval for using condoms as a method of birth control.'

In an interview that made headlines around the world yesterday, the Pope suggested it was not wrong to use a condom to prevent the spread of HIV and Aids. He told a journalist: 'There may be justified cases, for example, when a male prostitute uses a condom, .where this can be a first bit of responsibility, But It s not the proper way to deal with the horror of the HIV infection.' .

Mr Quinn said it was clear the porntff saw condoms as 'the lesser of two evils'. He said: 'Let's get it straight. The message of fidelity is just as important. The Pope has spoken of the "ABC" approach in the context of the HIV problem in Africa. He is talking about A, abstaining. If you can't do that, B, be faithful. And if you can't do that either, C, use a condom. He has accepted C so maybe his critics should accept A and R'

'It's the lesser of two evils'

The pontiff revealed his change of atitude to a Catholic German Journalist, Peter Seewald, during a series of interviews for a book called Light of the World:
The Pope, the Church and. the Signs of the Times to be published this week.

Asked whether 'the Catholic Church is not fundamentally against the use of condoms,' the Pope replied: 'It of course does not see it as a real and moral solution. In certain cases, where the intention is to reduce the risk of infection, it can nevertheless be a first step on the way to another, more humane sexuality.'

Donal O'Sullivan, spokesman for the Family and Media Association, warned that reports about the comments had been misleading.

'What was said doesn't form part of the Catholic Church's teaching,' he said. 'It is the Pope's personal opinion given in an Interview, not Vatican teaching. The book does not represent an act of the Church's teaching and does not have the capacity to change the Vatlcan s official stance on anything.

Benedict, the leader of the world's 1.1billion Catholics, was fiercely criticised for telling reporters on a flight to Cameroon in March last year that condoms could make Africa's Aids problem even worse.

Following international condemnation, the Vatican amended an official version of the remarks to indicate that he said that condoms 'risk' aggravating the problem.
Despite the shockwaves caused by his comments to Mr Seewald, the Church yesterday insisted that there was nothing revolutronary about them. .

Father Federico Lornbardi, the Vatican's spokesman, said the Pope was neither 'reforming or changing' Catholic teaching, which forbids use of contraceptives.
However campaigners against the disease welcomed Benedics new stance, although some called for him to go further.

Michel Sidibe, the UN's top Aids official, said: This is a Significant and positive step forward taken by the Vatican today. This move recognises that responsible sexual behaviour and the use of condoms have important roles in HIV prevention.'

However, another UN official said the example of male prostitutes could p~ misleading. Mahesh Mahalingam, who is based in Geneva said that while more than 80 per cent of HIV infections are transmitted by sexual intercourse, only 4 per cent to 10 per cent result from sex between men.

There are no reliable statistics about how many infections might be prevented if male prostitutes routinely used condoms.
However, he added that the UN welcomed the Pope's message as 'an opening up of discussion'.

The German-born pontiff's statement received a guarded welcome from activists in South Africa, which has an estimated 5.7million HIV­positive citizens - more people than any other country - and 500,000 new infections each year.

Caroline Nenguke of the Treatment Action Campaign, a support group in Cape Town, called it a 'step in the light direction'. However, she also warned that his reference to male prostitutes could be misinterpreted.

'It could make people in hetero­sexual relations think they are not allowed to use them,' she said. 'The Pope has a lot of followers and if he's going to take on a message, especially a message of life and death, it has to be very clear.
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VATICAN VIEWS

POPE Benedict's Interview with German joumallst Peter Seewald touched on numerous Issues facing the Church Including:

PAPAL RESIGNATION

The pope Indicates he would resign voluntarily If he were 'no longer physically, psychologically and spiritually capable of handling the duties of his office'.

SEXUAL ABUSE SCANDALS

The scandals of abuse of minors by priests were 'an unprecedented shock', and he adds that he understands why people would quit the Church In protest.

BISHOP WILLIAMSON

The Vatican did not know, when It lifted excommunlcations on four ultra-traditionalist bishops, that one of them ", was a Holocaust denier and would not have done it for him if It had known.

TRUFFLE TREAT FROM IL PAPA

DOWN and outs were treated to a special slap-up lunch from Pope Benedlct XVI after he donated a £100,OOO white truffle to a soup kitchen.
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Pope Benedlct handed over the delicacy after It was given to him by business­man Antonlo Bertolotto, who had paid the high price at a charity auction.

But the German-born Pontiff Is not a fan of the aromatic tuner, pictured, and Instead ordered It to be given to a local charity run by nuns who rustled up several dishes with the one-kilo dencacy. How­ever, not all the diners at the Carltas soup kitchen near Rome's Termini station, seemed to be aware of the gastronomical delight they had been handed, asking: 'What Is It? A potato?' as It was shown to them.
Truffle Is usually served as shavings on pasta dishes but It was cooked Into rice dishes for the down and outs for lunch.

One man named Masslmo, 65, from Rome, said: 'To be honest I've never seen a truffle and I've never tasted one but when you're In my situation and hungry you'll eat anything.'

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