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| Girl, 15, arrested over 'Facebook Koran burning video' | |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 10:17 AM Post #1 |
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A teenager has been arrested on suspicion of inciting religious hatred after allegedly burning an English language version of the Koran. The 15-year-old, who lives in the West Midlands, allegedly posted the video, filmed two weeks ago on her school premises, on Facebook. The video was reported to the school and subsequently removed, police said. A 14-year-old boy was arrested on Tuesday on suspicion of making threats. Both have been released on police bail. It is thought the girl was allegedly filmed setting the booklet alight while other pupils watched. Two Facebook profiles have also been removed from the site, police added. It is understood that the group who published the book have since been to the school to talk to pupils http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-black-country-11835253 Girl, 15, arrested for 'burning Koran at school and posting footage on Facebook'By Daily Mail Reporter Last updated at 8:46 AM on 25th November 2010 Add to My Stories Holy book: A 15-year-old girl has been arrested on suspicion of inciting religious hatred after allegedly burning the Koran A teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of inciting religious hatred after allegedly burning an English language version of the Koran. The 15-year-old was questioned and bailed by detectives last Friday after the alleged incident at a school in the Sandwell area of the West Midlands. She is also accused of posting video footage of the burning booklet on Facebook. A 14-year-old boy was arrested on Tuesday on suspicion of making threats on the social networking site, in connection with the alleged incident. He was released on bail, a spokeswoman for West Midlands Police said. She added: 'The local neighbourhood team have strong links with the school and have been working closely with key partners from the community and the local authority to resolve the matter locally. 'West Midlands Police will investigate and monitor any crime reported by individuals who may have been targeted because of their disability, gender, race, religion or belief, sexual orientation or transgender.' |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 10:21 AM Post #2 |
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pathetic,it's only a bloody book |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 10:29 AM Post #3 |
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This is exactly the same kind of blasphemy law as used in Pakistan. Given the recent publicity about the pakistani Christian woman sentenced to death for saying something about Mohammed we need to publicise this creeping shariah before it is fully implemented here. |
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| dudleyanglosaxon | Nov 25 2010, 10:32 AM Post #4 |
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It was 2 weeks ago...the same day that mac burned poppies and disrespected our war dead? |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 11:09 AM Post #5 |
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Jeez, that says it all, dudley, well spotted. -------------- Excellent point, Bamiyan, Sharia creeps in unannounced and is, ironically, becoming a part of the fabric of our society the more cases are prosecuted and highlighted in the media. |
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| Puck | Nov 25 2010, 11:10 AM Post #6 |
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Extracts from the 'incitement to religious hatred' act. 29BUse of words or behaviour or display of written material (1)A person who uses threatening words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, is guilty of an offence if he intends thereby to stir up religious hatred. *THIS SHOULD BE APPLIED TO THE KORAN* (2)An offence under this section may be committed in a public or a private place, except that no offence is committed where the words or behaviour are used, or the written material is displayed, by a person inside a dwelling and are not heard or seen except by other persons in that or another dwelling. *THIS SHOULD BE APPLIED TO THE KORAN* 29CPublishing or distributing written material (1)A person who publishes or distributes written material which is threatening is guilty of an offence if he intends thereby to stir up religious hatred. *THIS SHOULD BE APPLIED TO THE KORAN* (2)References in this Part to the publication or distribution of written material are to its publication or distribution to the public or a section of the public. *THIS SHOULD BE APPLIED TO THE KORAN* |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 11:11 AM Post #7 |
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It's the West Muslim Police, who'd of thought that hey ? |
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| lancashirelad | Nov 25 2010, 11:13 AM Post #8 |
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So as well as the Gateshead 6 we now have a young lass in the West Midlands in trouble, Bamiyan is dead right creeping Sharia. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 11:27 AM Post #9 |
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the most frightning thing is that they got the islamic thought police into the school right away. wonder if they got any veterans into the islamic dominated schools whos pupils were supporting the poppy burning on FB? doubtful.... WMP need disbanding from the top downwards. i remember at dudley the coppers absolutley loathed the top brass, that woman in paticular. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 11:29 AM Post #10 |
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I think the West Muslim Police, in their dhimmi zeal, may have overreacted here and attracted unwelcome publicity to the steady creep of Sharia. This case needs maximum publicity both nationally and internationally, especially if the big American counterjihadist blogs can be brought onside. I wonder when the court hearing is? Could there be a demonstration of 'public interest'? |
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| Star | Nov 25 2010, 11:30 AM Post #11 |
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So they safely guide 30 poppy burning jihads to the train station and arrest a young girl for the same crime! WTF? |
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| mohamhead | Nov 25 2010, 11:39 AM Post #12 |
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a fcuking disgrace! |
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| Eeedl | Nov 25 2010, 11:50 AM Post #13 |
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It's west Muslim police who said last week that "the edl is fueling Islamic extremism" so it is no suprise that a 15 year old girl has been arrested by them for burning a copy of the Koran.If a 15 year old Muslim burned a copy of the bible would they be arrested or would that be "culturally insesitve" to the " Muslim community". |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 11:50 AM Post #14 |
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All links have been forwarded to Jihad Watch, and I doubt that it's the only mail they will receive about this. |
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| Bleeding_Through | Nov 25 2010, 11:58 AM Post #15 |
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Would like to say burning of the quran is wrong. So is the burning of any particular religious book, whether it be the torah or bible. I listen to alot of satanic black metal music (dont believe in satan just like the music) and also do not hold much stock in religion. But the action itself was still wrong. Just as the poppy burning was wrong. In fact I would say that was more disrespectful as it was insulting the dead rather than just a book. I mean to me "its just a book". But still, the same feeling of anger we feel at the poppy burning, is still the same kind of feeling muslims get when a quran is burnt. |
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| UK-Jack | Nov 25 2010, 12:00 PM Post #16 |
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I did have a debate with someone on here over the last couple of weeks, he was saying there was no such crime, clearly there is. NS |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 12:03 PM Post #17 |
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I think the 'crime' as such is the publication of the act rather than the actualy burning. If you burnt one yourself (and I am against it personally) and told no-one then say the police found the charred remains I doubt whether it would be pursued, I think it is the filming yourself then sharing it with others is what the actual charge relates to. |
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| Bleeding_Through | Nov 25 2010, 12:06 PM Post #18 |
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Well I think if it was the bible it would not have been pursued. I think its because its the quran, the police want to be seen as taking action. As my previous post says, I dont agree with the action itself, but its all the bullsh1t associated with "burning a quran" that causes such a stir. Its the very fact that the whole notion of burning a quran is somehow different than burning a bible or torah. I think this is the issue. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 12:14 PM Post #19 |
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Drat, you beat me to it! The sooner the koran is exposed for what it is and islam is de-classified as a 'religion', the sooner we can start to redress the bollox called Law in this country. It always has been a one-way slippery slope and it just gets worse. IT'S PAPER AND INK FFS!!! So then, Chaps and Capesses, is there anyway of 'doing something' to expose the absurdity of this area of (ahem) 'law'? Something that *may* be contentious but not againinst any currently enforcible legislation? Perhaps raise awareness of a 'rumour' that 'a gang of lads have burned a koran'? No need for specifics, it may even relate to The Gateshead Six although this detail does not have to be mentioned! |
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| weatherby | Nov 25 2010, 12:14 PM Post #20 |
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I have put it on the New English Review http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/30878 |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 12:28 PM Post #21 |
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If the EDL were to merely threaten (nobody need actually turn up) to demonstrate in support of free expression and/or against blasphemy laws at the court hearing, it would force the West Muslim Police to deploy numbers of officers vastly out of proportion to the juvenile prank under consideration, so making themselves look extremely stupid, especially if the international press were in attendance. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 12:45 PM Post #22 |
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Should this feeling of 'sensitivity' also extend to the pedophile and perfect example Muhammad? Should we all keep quiet about his life and deeds because Muslims will feel anger and upset? Muhammad suffered from malignant narcissistic personality disorder. His followers, (to the degree that they emulate him) think like him and try to behave like him, have entered into his narcissistic bubble universe and have become narcissists by extension. This happens to all cultists. In all cults, the insanity of the guru reflects on the followers who surrender their intelligence to him and follow him unquestioningly and brainlessly. The narcissists feel grandiose and self-important. They want to be acknowledged without commensurate merit. They want recognition and preferential treatment. They expect respect without feeling any obligation to reciprocate. They get their sense of self- importance by putting you down, criticising you, decrying your world and disparaging your values, but you are not allowed to slight them. It is okay for them to violate your rights, abuse you and even kill you, but you are not supposed to mistreat them in the slightest way. In fact, they demand privileges that are not available to others. What they want is your submission. That is what Islam is all about – submission. Never comply |
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| brianoflondon | Nov 25 2010, 01:04 PM Post #23 |
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I don't believe that burning any book is a good move but, something has to be done to stop this accommodation of the Islamic Blasphemy law, as pushed by the Saudis and the OIC at the UN into UK and other European Law. Does anyone else think that this girl's pointless arrest on the day that the Queen is making the UK look like fools begging the Arabs to do business with the UK and the FCO is gleefully announcing a shift AWAY from Israel and TOWARDS the dictators, sultans and serial abusers of human rights who run the Arab world looks a little suspicious? Was this done just to say to the Saudis and their friends, look, we're cracking down on our people just liked you asked. Can we get a new order for fighter jets now? If what it takes to make this law unenforceable is a mass demonstration of civil disobedience, then it may have to come to that. Go on, WMP: try to arrest 2000 angry young men instead of a little girl. And if this act makes "moderate" Muslims feel so uncomfortable in the UK, there are 56 states that enforce these laws properly and they can pick one. |
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| weatherby | Nov 25 2010, 01:11 PM Post #24 |
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"If what it takes to make this law unenforceable is a mass demonstration of civil disobedience, then it may have to come to that. Go on, WMP: try to arrest 2000 angry young men instead of a little girl. And if this act makes "moderate" Muslims feel so uncomfortable in the UK, there are 56 states that enforce these laws properly and they can pick one". Blooming right Brian. |
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| 1Pat | Nov 25 2010, 01:27 PM Post #25 |
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A mass rally burning the Quran to reclaim our freedom is well in order and I'm up for that one. |
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| Bleeding_Through | Nov 25 2010, 02:18 PM Post #26 |
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Well If you ask me Islam is merely another cult. But if we want to live in a peaceful world, we have to realise that some actions will cause offence. If an islamic preacher in saudi burnt the british flag, that would offend me. I think I understand what you are saying. In that why should we extend courtesy to them? Well for me its not for the sake of a religion, but more for the sake of the people. the ordinary muslim in the street see it is a personal attack on them rather than on a book or religion. Does highlight the issue of Islam and muslim identity, in that burning a bible would be seen by a christian, as an attack on christianity and not neccesarily every christian on the planet. Dont know to be honest, I get lost in my own arguments sometimes. The black and white thought process of some of the posters is much easier. arrgh |
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| Lunar Monkey | Nov 25 2010, 02:39 PM Post #27 |
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It's simple really, the law should be equal for all. If we are not allowed to burn the koran, then they shouldn't be allowed to burn our flags or our poppies. What exactly is the difference in the law? The way people see it, it's all the same thing, it's nothing less than a pre-meditated insult to the other side. The problem is that these "crimes", though the same, are treated differently in favour of the muslims, and this is what the underlying problem is. They can get away with it, we can't. |
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| Tutaminis legio | Nov 25 2010, 03:46 PM Post #28 |
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That would be a rally i would turn up to, They can't arrest all of us. We should burn an effogy of Pedo Mo. |
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| infidel 9755 | Nov 25 2010, 04:05 PM Post #29 |
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just seen it on the news, why is it only brits you hear moaning about it, council/school/police. yet when the poppy was burnt how many muslims do you see on the news against it ????????? |
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| progreen | Nov 25 2010, 04:11 PM Post #30 |
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i say fair play to her , she obviously had a point to make and its fair to say she made it i bet a lot of others are seeing it on the news , hearing it on the radio and thinking the exact same thing too , i for one would happily be outside those courts burning more of them if someone would like to arrange it. like its been said if theres enough of us they cant nick us all NS |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 04:34 PM Post #31 |
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They didn't say WHY she burnt it. Was she a victim of a paedophile gang? Was there another reason? |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 04:36 PM Post #32 |
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I find it somewhat disturbing that you can be arrested and charged for burning such a hate filled book. Especially when a lot of that hate is directed toward the person doing the burning. |
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| ukproud | Nov 25 2010, 04:47 PM Post #33 |
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Buy a few Korans and use the paper to eat fish and chips from. That will really piss them off. Or throw pigs blood at the scumbags. |
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| English_and_proud | Nov 25 2010, 05:14 PM Post #34 |
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Okay... so why weren't the Muslims arrested for inciting religious hatred on Rememberance Day? fcuking bullsh1t this, I'm sick of it. |
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| Jamman | Nov 25 2010, 06:19 PM Post #35 |
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So they can burn the poppy and incite what they like with no actions taken but they can arrest a young girl for WHAT if it was not so serious it would be laughable!!! National burn the Koran demo is needed. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 06:41 PM Post #36 |
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Why would she need a reason to burn a book, an old diary, love letters, soiled underwear or sweaty socks? |
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| Zefiris | Nov 25 2010, 06:52 PM Post #37 |
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So, they can burn flags, burn poppies and pretty much do whatever they please without getting arrested. One lass burns a copy of a book and gets arrested. . . Unbe-fcuking-leaveable |
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| dudleyanglosaxon | Nov 25 2010, 07:03 PM Post #38 |
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Just heard on 5 live news that the girl has been threatened on facebook and the police are investigating the threat seriously... would like to read what the male pupil wrote! For those not familiar with the Sandwell Borough,which is all they're saying at the moment,it consists of some fairly big areas such as West Bromwich,Wednesbury,Tipton,Smethwick,Oldbury,Rowley and quite a few more...Sorry, just realised the original poster mentioned the boy getting arrested... Edited by dudleyanglosaxon, Nov 25 2010, 07:07 PM.
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| Sussex 66 | Nov 25 2010, 07:16 PM Post #39 |
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Somebody should burn a Bible there and see if those PC loony police treat it equally to the Koran. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 07:17 PM Post #40 |
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It's just a book. The arrest of this girl is very worrying, it's another example of Sharia sneeking in slowly. |
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| harry | Nov 25 2010, 07:17 PM Post #41 |
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It gets worse by the day! |
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| Deleted User | Nov 25 2010, 07:17 PM Post #42 |
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i think a demo outside the court she appears at is needed |
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| dudleyanglosaxon | Nov 25 2010, 07:18 PM Post #43 |
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Some support could help... maybe the jihaddis will be there... |
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| charlesthefrank ex gov | Nov 25 2010, 07:26 PM Post #44 |
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hi two steps that need to be taken: 1. ban the koran in the uk and block all islamic websites 2. demolish all mosques in the uk defence for these radical steps ? some islamic countries block christian websites and the bible is banned in saudi arabia (no chriustian living in these countries is complaining; they just leave if they don't like it) no churches are/can be built in saudi arabia (again no christian is complaining about not attending church in saudi; they just leave if they don't like it) then we wouldn't need to waste a match to burn the book. best charles the frank ex gov |
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| dudleyanglosaxon | Nov 25 2010, 07:31 PM Post #45 |
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BBC Midlands news now!Main news.... Some Muslim idiot talking now! He says, what we suffered when it was reported about the poppy burning! WHERE WAS IT REPORTED???AND HOW DID YOU SUFFER??? They asked 2 passersby on the street what they thought! A sensible man replied,"would it be the same fuss if a bible was burnt?" SPOT ON MATE! Edited by dudleyanglosaxon, Nov 25 2010, 07:37 PM.
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| scotsguy | Nov 25 2010, 07:36 PM Post #46 |
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'West Midlands Police will investigate and monitor any crime reported by individuals who may have been targeted because of their disability, gender, race, religion or belief, sexual orientation or transgender.' no doubt it was probably the counter terrorist unit that arrested the poor 15 year old!.... |
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| Robbo_LUFC | Nov 25 2010, 07:40 PM Post #47 |
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F*cking beggars belief... Day by day we are heading to a point of no return. When are people, especially thoise in authority going to wake up?? NS |
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The WMP definitely have an extreme bias in favour of Islam. I wonder what's going on behind the scenes. |
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The act of spilling the beans about Muhammad often causes offence to the ordinary muslim in the street. Especially when they are told that he was a mass murdering pedophile and common thief. Muslims will always find something to be offended by, its built into their psyche. What I find most worrying are the references often made suggesting that we should succumb to Islamic threats of aggression - ie submit to the shari'ah, or else you will not "live in a peaceful world". As a non muslim, do you feel offended by the derogatory Qur'anic references made to you and your fellow kafir infidel brothers and sisters? As an ordinary kafir in the street, do you see it as a personal attack on you? |
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| Night_Crawler | Nov 25 2010, 08:29 PM Post #50 |
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And Burning the Poppy is inciting hatred towards out troops aswell as our war dead for previous wars, Like WW2. Did anything get done about it.
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