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Bradford Muslims - Really Disturbing
Topic Started: Nov 24 2010, 11:11 PM (424 Views)
tektwo
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I am a new member, I am not from England. I live in the States, NYC to be precise. Can you give me some information on Bradford's Muslims?

There is this Mosque in Manhattan that has a Imam visiting from Bradford to discuss how to bring about a Muslim nation in Western Nation, especially the United States. In the Flyer it talks about how to use the existing legal system and media to do this.

From what I gather from reading the flyer (which was in Arabic) they essentially want to use a model that has worked for them in Bradford and other parts of UK and Europe. Unfortunately besides the usual remarks about Jews, Israel the United States Government etc he did not lay out any plan's in the flyer, his sermon is going to go in depth. Which I don't think I can attend.

Is this guy dangerous, should I be doing something to try to disrupt this?
"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards

Nizom, Novil, Ne'haveh Dugma VeNenaze'ah - We shall Innovate, Lead, Set an Example and Win. - My Paratrooper Unit Motto
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Could you not translate the flyer and send a copy of it to the papers? Surely it needs lots of publicity?
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Of course he's dangerous, he's preaching about taking over western civilisation and you can bet you last fukin dollar that he wants the biggest fukin victory mosque built right next to where your twin towers fell. If you and your mates (buddies!) have got any balls then you should oppose this or else you lot over in the good ol U.S of A are going to all be turning east 5 times a day for prayers. NS
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I could try to a copy of the flyer, unfortunately it was posted in the window. I will have to go take a picture of it.

I would very much enjoy going to do something about this, unfortunately NYC is extremely liberal. I am an Ex IDF Paratrooper, and as such have no qualms about bashing some heads or causing havoc. Unfortunately, there are not many people who share my views in Manhattan. One reason I am here on this site.

The people who were protesting the Mosque by ground zero took time to gather. This frakker has decided to hold his sermon on our biggest holiday tomorrow, Thanksgiving.
I know he is dangerous in the sense of his view's, I am asking will his sermon preach violence. Unfortunately for us in this case you can pretty much say whatever you want in the US and you are protected.

It's frustrating because nobody around me seems to give a fcuk. While I go bouncing off the walls and want to go crazy.
Edited by tektwo, Nov 24 2010, 11:26 PM.
"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards

Nizom, Novil, Ne'haveh Dugma VeNenaze'ah - We shall Innovate, Lead, Set an Example and Win. - My Paratrooper Unit Motto
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a piccie would be good, this poster needs to go viral tbh

and then we need to report this 'preahcer' to the authorities this side ..... to get him thrown out of the country if he is here as a 'guest' or locked up if he is holding a uk passport ...
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tektwo there is an american defence league on fb and a bikers division
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tektwo
Nov 24 2010, 11:11 PM
I am a new member, I am not from England. I live in the States, NYC to be precise. Can you give me some information on Bradford's Muslims?

There is this Mosque in Manhattan that has a Imam visiting from Bradford to discuss how to bring about a Muslim nation in Western Nation, especially the United States. In the Flyer it talks about how to use the existing legal system and media to do this.

From what I gather from reading the flyer (which was in Arabic) they essentially want to use a model that has worked for them in Bradford and other parts of UK and Europe. Unfortunately besides the usual remarks about Jews, Israel the United States Government etc he did not lay out any plan's in the flyer, his sermon is going to go in depth. Which I don't think I can attend.

Is this guy dangerous, should I be doing something to try to disrupt this?
There are many very well-informed and politically active people in the US around these issues.

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/upload/wysiwyg/article%20pdfs/Shariah%20-%20The%20Threat%20to%20America%20(Team%20B%20Report)%20Web%20Version%2009302010.pdf

http://www.islamwatch.org/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

For the most part the counter-jihad movement has been seen as "right wing", when in fact some of the most trenchant and earliest criticism in Britain was coming from socialists. Political correctness has silence all but the "far right" until the last few years. Now even the socialists in countries like Britain and Denmark are starting to see that their 20 year silence has been a disaster.

I'm sure you will have no trouble finding counter-jihad groups in the US. Let us know if you need any help on that score.

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I just read your later comments about when this event is taking place. I'll bet he's only one of thousands of active muslim fundamentalists in the US.

BTW you might be interested in the EDL Jewish Division - they have several ex-IDF in there.

http://www.facebook.com/EDL.Jewish.Division/



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try and ban this guy from coming to the US and preeching hate
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what about contacting the people who are against the ground zero mosque?

As it's on thanksgiving, I guess any turnout to protest will be low.


Do you have the name of the preacher?

Happy Thanksgiving. :)
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Bashing heads ?...stay calm and protest peacefully.
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I am usually calm and peaceful. But the last counter protest I went to was about the Ground Zero Mosque and the guy on the loudspeaker was talking about how the Jews were trying to destroy Islam and block the center then people in the audience proceeded to chant Death To Jews. It was all over youtube.

Sorta ticked me off a bit. These people can be pretty nasty and they seem go get away with it. Heaven forbid we do anything even approaching that type of racism and were plastered all over the New York Times or CNN.

We are very careful.

Thank you for the links all, I will check them out.
"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards

Nizom, Novil, Ne'haveh Dugma VeNenaze'ah - We shall Innovate, Lead, Set an Example and Win. - My Paratrooper Unit Motto
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I'd say go to it and learn all you can straight from the horses mouth! Then you will know what you are up against, and be able to counter their strategy.

I think the British people would have loved to have known what we know now 30 years ago, there would be no way that the muzzies would be as strong as they are in some parts of England!

I urge you to go, cancel what you have to do if it isn't too important! If you have a family thanksgiving dinner or something, explain to the people what is happening and try to get them to delay or whatever. I know thanksgiving is a big deal for Americans, but if the muzzies get their way, in the long run you will not be having the celebration!

Like I said, you are in a posistion to 'nip the problem in the bud'. Wish we could!
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Tektwo, maybe you can find out the address of the mosque as there are quite a few in Manhattan. Having the address of the mosque maybe useful, they might have a website with the info.
If you do decide to go, be careful and don't go alone.
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Don't know if you realise, tektwo but Bradford is like downtown Islamabad.
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America .. the land of the free... unless your idea of freedom disagrees with the sheitehouse that is.... poor guy you lads deserve better than to be cowed by political correctness ant thought crime.
happy thanksgiving b.t.w x
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dont be complacent like us .we have known about all of it for years
but unfortunatly i think we all thought obviously our goverment isnt stupid they will put a stop to it
guess what our goverment was part of the problem
we have now awoken from our slumber.all should beaware my anger will not abate quickly
have you heard about a indoctrination here where they say they shouldnt move out of the way on the pavement for us.well i am putting that to the test every day.fcukas they really are fcukas
i dont go to the demos often .i prefer to be 1 mile away being very active.force is all they respect
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Most of Bradford's muslims are in Afghanistan fighting with the Taliban. :ermm:
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This war for us in the states is just starting. We do not have nearly the percentage of radical's that you in England do. But we can already see it starting. Motions for Sharia law in multiple state's, lobby groups from Muslim nations pouring money into our Government... Liberal media painting Islam as a religion of tolerance.

Most of all we see what has happened in Europe. We will not go quietly into the night. We will fight, that is a promise.
"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards

Nizom, Novil, Ne'haveh Dugma VeNenaze'ah - We shall Innovate, Lead, Set an Example and Win. - My Paratrooper Unit Motto
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tektwo
Nov 24 2010, 11:11 PM
I am a new member, I am not from England. I live in the States, NYC to be precise. Can you give me some information on Bradford's Muslims?

There is this Mosque in Manhattan that has a Imam visiting from Bradford to discuss how to bring about a Muslim nation in Western Nation, especially the United States. In the Flyer it talks about how to use the existing legal system and media to do this.

From what I gather from reading the flyer (which was in Arabic) they essentially want to use a model that has worked for them in Bradford and other parts of UK and Europe. Unfortunately besides the usual remarks about Jews, Israel the United States Government etc he did not lay out any plan's in the flyer, his sermon is going to go in depth. Which I don't think I can attend.

Is this guy dangerous, should I be doing something to try to disrupt this?
Not so many years back therere were the Bradford riots; and despite the usual media coverage bollox, the truth did come out.. It was a declaration of indepedence. They wanted to have a seperate muslim state within the UK. Look at the videos on youtube.

Some of the main antagonists fled the UK to Pakistan only to eventually return because "A British jail is better than living in Pakistan."

And as for the so-called moderates, they were there in their thousands!

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It's fascinating, I have been reading about Bradford tonight. It sounds quite crazy, I can't imagine this kind of attitude and flagrant disregard for law and order is tolerated by your Government.

I guess the US's only advantage in this is that we do NOT have to listen to the federal government when it comes to state's matters. We would have to head this off on a local level.

I really hope I can pin this Imam down a little before he leaves back for England. Would like to get some good press.
"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards

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This is a video from Dearborn, Michigan where a third of the population is muslim.

Incidentally it has the largest mosque on the continent:
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