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| scotsguy | Nov 24 2010, 05:18 PM Post #101 |
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i see a big fat copper repeatibly hitting a student on the head with a baton.....he will be on youtube soon no doubt. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 05:18 PM Post #102 |
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I bet it gets loads of likes
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 05:19 PM Post #103 |
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Just wondering, what do you suggest the government should do to cut the deficit? |
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| scotsguy | Nov 24 2010, 05:23 PM Post #104 |
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i hope it dosent,the ob pen the edl in,and would be quik to use there batons against the edl....if a situation developed!... ...
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| Gorgie | Nov 24 2010, 05:28 PM Post #105 |
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I know that all students are lefties. But universities are a stronghold for socialism and you cannot deny that mate. But why do students think they should be exempt from cuts? Should everyone else take extra cuts so that they can pay for the university education of students? These are difficult times. This is the real world. Bad things happen. We all just need to pull through together. Labour got us into this mess! What was our country supposed to do? Spend more and get us into more debt? |
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"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!" "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill | |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 05:29 PM Post #106 |
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Calm down dear, it's only a forum!
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 05:29 PM Post #107 |
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Spot on. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 05:30 PM Post #108 |
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Well for a start the government need to start acting in the UKs interest. As soon as they do this many of our troubles will go away. Why, because we will tell the EU to stuff it, stop payments and scrap the human rights act. |
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| ageofreason | Nov 24 2010, 05:36 PM Post #109 |
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I agree with the students, and yes i am "left" wing in the old sense So no we are not all rabid right wing on here. I am totally against the volence being shown on TV although i can appreciate the stength of feeling being shown. I just wish people and the media would try to be as objective when it comes to our demos, and at least try to understand the strength of feelng we have, in our convictions concerning muslim nut jobs |
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| scotsguy | Nov 24 2010, 05:37 PM Post #110 |
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hear...hear! |
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| Zcott | Nov 24 2010, 05:40 PM Post #111 |
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I would like to see the bankers receive a higher tax. Anyone who receives a big pay check a higher tax. Cutting down on immigration will reduce spending for housing, education, the nhs, police etc. Why should working class families and students be affected most by these cuts? Everyone knows that these cuts are coming to big and too fast. I'm not disagreeing with EMA being cut, im glad that's gone. It was only abused. Students dont feel they should be exempt from cuts, everyone is protesting against cuts that effect them. All these cuts will do is create a divide in standards of education, good universities for rich, sh1t universities for the poor. In about 10-15 years students will be leaving with 40k of debt. Is that fair? No it isn't. |
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I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%. Armchair division. I may not go to demos, but I'm there in spirit. | |
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| rock | Nov 24 2010, 05:41 PM Post #112 |
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today i ended up in the middle of the Sheffield demo ,went for a meeting with my solicitor came out of the building and went down the wrong street smack bang in the middle , i soon got out of there the smell was terrible |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 05:43 PM Post #113 |
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So what do you think the government should do to cut the deficit? Just wondering.
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 05:43 PM Post #114 |
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did it smell of this mate
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 05:44 PM Post #115 |
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I agree, but I'm not so sure that it would be enough. |
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| Zcott | Nov 24 2010, 05:48 PM Post #116 |
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Might not be enough, but there are other options.... I would strongly argue that the war in Afghanistan is costing us a lot of money. But we're coming out in 2014 so we just have to wait. I would also strongly argue that, although this might be a bit far fetched, but the legalization of marijuana. Cuts down on money being spent policing it, courts, prisons, stops giving money to criminals and creates sh1t loads in tax. Edited by Zcott, Nov 24 2010, 05:49 PM.
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I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%. Armchair division. I may not go to demos, but I'm there in spirit. | |
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| Gorgie | Nov 24 2010, 05:50 PM Post #117 |
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Yes the bankers are the absolute cnuts, and people like Fred Goodwin swaggering off with that sum is outrageous. And yes there should be higher taxes for the rich. Actually, the middle earners will be suffering a lot as well as the working class. The rich will be affected, but they'll have back up funds and most likely won't feel it. Life isn't fair mate. I'm sure something could be done to prevent it. Also, remember who created this mess. LABOUR. And as usual Tories will be hated again because they're actualy having to clear up the problem. Edited by Gorgie, Nov 24 2010, 05:52 PM.
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"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!" "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill | |
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| rock | Nov 24 2010, 05:53 PM Post #118 |
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sure did mate and the ob were well away from them |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 05:54 PM Post #119 |
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This is what students have to pay back depending on how much their earning. up to £15,000 Below £1,250 0 £16,000 £7 £18,000 £22 £21,000 £45 £24,000 £67 £27,000 £90 £30,000 £112 So all this bollocks about the poor not being able afford to go to uni is rubbish because they don't start paying it back until the start earning over 15k and if they do end up flipping burgers when they have finished their media studies degree it's only £7 a month. All these riots are being stoked up by the far left socialists because they don't like the con/dem coalition. |
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| Zcott | Nov 24 2010, 05:56 PM Post #120 |
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I really hate the bankers. They complain when they lose £100k from their £10m bonus and there are people struggling to feed their family. I want to go to university and study history and politics, a humanities subject, all the funding for that has been cut. It's disgusting. With that degree I was hoping to do something in the future to fight against islamism in a diplomatic way. Disgusting government and nick clegg is a wanker, aslong as he gets a daily spooning by Cameron he is happy. |
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| darren68 | Nov 24 2010, 05:57 PM Post #121 |
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Tell ya wot if we caused the same amount of sh1t this lot have done , we would be fukin banned by now. No synthapy at all . Fight a cause worth fighting other than about cash. NFSE FUKIN EVER |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 05:57 PM Post #122 |
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Exactly. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 05:57 PM Post #123 |
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so you can make a protest about tuition fees but you have never been able to make a edl demo? |
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| Zcott | Nov 24 2010, 05:59 PM Post #124 |
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We were organized transport. I wasn't expected to make my way up to places hundreds of miles away all by myself with transport I couldn't afford. Edited by Zcott, Nov 24 2010, 06:00 PM.
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I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%. Armchair division. I may not go to demos, but I'm there in spirit. | |
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| 1Pat | Nov 24 2010, 06:00 PM Post #125 |
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Compared to the below link this thread is a non-story. http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/3954171/1/#new |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:00 PM Post #126 |
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what i was thinking mate
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| Gorgie | Nov 24 2010, 06:01 PM Post #127 |
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Sorry to sound a bit confused here mate, but I don't get it. How long will the be paying it back? Because that sounds very reasonable and it looks like it's been blown out of proportion as per. All those cnuts who voted Nick Clegg and are now complaining got exactly what they deserved. Anyone who had a clue could see right through him, and most people didn't know who he was until that televised debate a month or 2 before the election. Edited by Gorgie, Nov 24 2010, 06:03 PM.
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"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!" "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill | |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:04 PM Post #128 |
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theres organised transport from all over the country to EDL demos? |
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| darren68 | Nov 24 2010, 06:04 PM Post #129 |
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if a fights worth fighting its worth making the effort to get there and fight the fukin thing . EDL NFSE |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:08 PM Post #130 |
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your right mate - theres others with A LOT to say whove been offered transport with various divisions to demos and make the excuse and dont bother. then ask people in the intro section wether theyre going to be doing demos ? you couldnt fkn make it up. your either in it or your not IMO. |
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| Zcott | Nov 24 2010, 06:10 PM Post #131 |
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I've not been following the EDL that much for the last couple of months, I have been watching from the outside though, which is the reason why I haven't gone to a protest. I am though waiting for a protest to happen in the south (I check the demo calendar regularly (when is the website coming back btw?). I was really looking forward to the one that was planned for Southampton but then got cancelled.
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I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%. Armchair division. I may not go to demos, but I'm there in spirit. | |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:12 PM Post #132 |
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Did someone say put the Kettle on or Kettling? |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:20 PM Post #133 |
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As we have seen since our rise ,the NUS etc have stood full square against us in the DEFENCE LEAGUES. I want a fair system of funding and from what I see it looks fair. @zcott what's woke you up fella lol. Fxxk NUS,SWP,UAF and who ever stands in our way. NO SURRENDER Mark CDL |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:22 PM Post #134 |
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ZCOT by south you mean the city you live in lol, have been a few in London and Luton is in feb so no excuses please |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:25 PM Post #135 |
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Maybe its the bankers now but who will it be in the future? Personally I would also like to see a lot of people in the legal profession (who milk the system) pay more. And I would really love to see all the buy-to-let landlords with 10+ houses pay more for driving house prices and rent up
But with loans through the SLC those who go on to get big fat pay cheques in the future will pay more AND they can not get round it by paying off their loans earlier with out paying penalties. Also now that the threshold for repayments has moved from £15,000 to £21,000 it will be the big earners that pay more and not people like nurses and teachers that get hit harder.
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As far as I can see there is no real change in the means tested loans system. Those coming from backgrounds with the least money still get more help than those from middle earning families and those from more wealthy backgrounds get less help than anyone else. The amount of money people have to borrow may change but as to who gets what amount of help hasn't. Perhaps if anything should change it should be that the middle earning and top earning families should subsidise the low earning families. That would confuse the fook out of the NUS on what subject to pick up and protest against. They have to find something every term to protest against believe me.
But that already existed anyway to a point. You don't get many kids off a council estate going to the top universities. These places have always been mainly the domain of the well off privately educated elite.
People were leaving with 25K + six years ago (I did) in ten years from now I would expect that to be 30 35 anyway. Personally if it had cost me another 10K to go to Uni I would still do it again tho not been happy about it. The Government always fcuk about with tuition fees every four or so years anyway, so it will be a totally different kettle of fish in the future. Oh yes and not ALL students are lefties If this had happened whilst I were at Uni, having had to work doing some real sh1t jobs for a living for 20 years before going, I would tell them to shut the fcuk up and suck it up because the opportunities that can open up for you in the future far surpass any amount of money it going to cost you.NS! |
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| Zcott | Nov 24 2010, 06:26 PM Post #136 |
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I will try make Luton, but when I say south I mean places like Plymouth, Bournemouth, Portsmouth, Southampton, Brighton. I just feel it would be nice to protest down here. Nothing wrong with that is there?
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| darren68 | Nov 24 2010, 06:26 PM Post #137 |
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SPOT ON |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:28 PM Post #138 |
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Couldn't agree more but with the new changes you don't pay anything back untill you earn over 21K and not 15K |
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| darren68 | Nov 24 2010, 06:29 PM Post #139 |
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Well since ya put it like that will try to have the next one somewere nice and closeby so ya can make it |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:31 PM Post #140 |
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Until its paid off OR 30 years after you finish Uni OR you reach retirement age. If its not paid off by the time you pass 30 years or Retire then it is written off. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:32 PM Post #141 |
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ARMCHAIR DIVISION pmsl Oh the irony lol |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:32 PM Post #142 |
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double post |
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| Zcott | Nov 24 2010, 06:33 PM Post #143 |
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@njh1972 When I said why should working class be most affected by these cuts, I meant all of the cuts in general, not just education, I should of stated that... ![]() The point on the divide of education is that if there is a university providing a course and charging £10k a year for it, and another uni charging £6k a year for it, it's more tempting for students from poorer backgrounds to go to the £6k one. ![]() I'm not saying uni education should be free, I believe you should pay for it, but the price of it going up, in my opinion, is not fair.
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I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%. Armchair division. I may not go to demos, but I'm there in spirit. | |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:33 PM Post #144 |
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pmsl
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:34 PM Post #145 |
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| Zcott | Nov 24 2010, 06:36 PM Post #146 |
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The child being threatened for supporting our troops, BBC panarama and mainly the poppy burning... that sent shivers of anger through my veins. Edited by Zcott, Nov 24 2010, 06:37 PM.
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I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%. Armchair division. I may not go to demos, but I'm there in spirit. | |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:38 PM Post #147 |
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@ zcott our darren travels in from mainland europe,while you put that in ya pipe and smoke it,look in the mirror lol |
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| darren68 | Nov 24 2010, 06:38 PM Post #148 |
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you mean the same sh1t thats been going on for years . |
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| The Swine | Nov 24 2010, 06:39 PM Post #149 |
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Probably trying to incease his IQ level from retard to no-hoper. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 24 2010, 06:40 PM Post #150 |
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its getting the biggest/loudest division m8 when we're stood in fkn -7 on saturday taking it from all sides all the complaining will be over the net. darren got it spot on . if its worth fighting for do something about it. id rather be sat in with a brew playing with the kids, unfortunately the bigger game is their future so out it is. 100% nfse |
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