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| Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff’s ‘Hate Speech ‘ Trial In Vienna Today; Some important issues about Islam 'as defined by its scripture' were raised. | |
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| Aeneas Lavinium | Nov 23 2010, 09:20 PM Post #1 |
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See the live blog from today’s events at Tundra Tabloids: http://tundratabloids.com/2010/11/the-tundra-tabloids-live-blogging-the-trial-of-elisabeth-sabaditsch-wolff.html Some important issues about Islam 'as defined by its scripture' were raised. The Tundra Tabloids coverage includes the following: Defence lawyer talks of the principles of gender equality, freedom of religion and the lack of reciprocity that exists in Islam, for example that other religions cannot be freely excercised in several Islamic countries. That ESW grew up in Islamic countries and has experienced the situation of women there directly. He continues to explain that the statements mentioned were taken seriously out of context, and that some were not public, thus not relevant to the case. And that we should play the 8 hours of recordings to understand the context. He proceeds to invoke three expert witmesses who will testify that ESW speaks the truth: Wafa Sultan, Hans Jansen Robert Spencer 10:53: The judge inquires if we are talking Islamic extremism or of Islam as such? Elisabeth explains that we are talking Islam as such, as defined by its scripture, and quotes Erdogan that there is no moderate Islam anyway. The judge accepts that we can play the tapes. Then proceeds to ask about us being lied to 24 hours a day. Elisabeth explains the concept of Taqiyya. The judge says: ”That is your interpretation”, to which Elisabeth responds: ”No, this is the canonical interpretation”. Next question is: ”Is Islam in a never-ending war with the West?” Elisabeth refers to history and newspapers to document that, and that Jihad has at times been considered a pillar of Islam. 11:15: The ”burqa ghost” story is related. Elisabeth took a photo of a woman in burqa in Meitlinger Hauptstrasse, Vienna, and told about this in her seminars. It is difficult to figure out why the public prosecutor finds this offensive, not to mention illegal. The defence asks about this. Elisabeth explains a few things about freedom for women – all women – to decide for themselves. A reference is then made to debates at OSCE, where she discussed child molestation, and says: Christian cardinals molest children in conflict with their religion, Muslims in line with theirs. As background the marriage between Muhammad and Aisha is related, as documented by several Hadith authors. Paedophilia is discussed, in light of Muhammad being the perfect example for Muslims, as stated in Quran 33:21. That means everything Muhammad ever did or said, which is in the hadith. Elisabeth explains what the hadith collections are, how they constitute an indispensable part of Islam, due to 33:21 and similar suras. And emphasises that she is not making up statements, merely quoting canonical Islamic scripture. See the rest at Tundra Tabloids: http://tundratabloids.com/2010/11/the-tundra-tabloids-live-blogging-the-trial-of-elisabeth-sabaditsch-wolff.html Edited by Aeneas Lavinium, Nov 23 2010, 09:21 PM.
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| Deleted User | Nov 23 2010, 09:29 PM Post #2 |
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This is good stuff thanks.
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| Deleted User | Nov 23 2010, 09:40 PM Post #3 |
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Thanks for posting this information, and your summary. By the sounds of it her arguments are fairly down-the-line counter jihadism. I hope she gets a fair hearing. It seems like a water-shed case (at least on a par with that of Geert). |
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| Deleted User | Nov 23 2010, 09:48 PM Post #4 |
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![]() This is from the blog AL posted. Nail. Head. |
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| 1Pat | Nov 23 2010, 09:57 PM Post #5 |
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When open to intellectual discussion / debate Islam is always seen for what it is, a Fascist Ideology. |
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| Aeneas Lavinium | Nov 23 2010, 10:04 PM Post #6 |
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Yes, they chose the wrong person to demonise and bully in this attempted show trial. The result will be important to us all. It is outrageous how our treasonous political elites abuse our legal system to make political points and intimidate people. |
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