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There needs to be more programmes like this on tv.

The BBC were surprisingly unbiased.
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WOW, lets just hope that opens more people's eyes, i never thought i would ever see anything like that on the BBC
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l don't know what all the fuss was about really, nothing unusual there.

l've heard worse from the neighbours kids and they are under 6.
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Nov 22 2010, 09:37 PM
Stated double the number of muslims faith schools in a decade but yet they (the msm, UAf etc.) always quote 2001 census figures of muslims.

They're not "faith schools", they're political indoctrination centres programming young minds with a separate system of law, a different allegiance, and a totally alien cultural identity.

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yet to watch this city of fear on ch 4 was bad enough
islamabad muslims bombing muslims.a college where they study sharia law bombed by extremists .a girls school for muslims bombed by muslims
they really dont know what they want do they
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The BBC spent the first ten mins or so shamefully trying to tell us it's just a minority bla bla bla.


Edited by Flashbuck, Nov 22 2010, 10:03 PM.
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I've seen that presenter before he is good and the only non PC BBC one
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Nov 22 2010, 09:47 PM
This is a perfect example of why the EDL is needed.
The programme is also showing that Muslim communities need to do more to integrate.

Expect to see more people sign up to the forum because they seen this on tv.


Muslims cannot integrate. The koran says more than a dozen times that muslims should not take non-muslims for friends.

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"Are You Watching UAF" ?
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Nov 22 2010, 09:58 PM
I just got in from work, is it worth catching on the iplayer guys?
Definitely.

A real eye opener as to what is being taught in muslim schools.

Very disturbing stuff and this is just what Panorama know about, I bet there are many, many more like them.

Funnily enough I think it was the minister for schools who at the very start of the programme said that there was no room for Anti Semitism to be taught in British schools (or words to that effect).

Does this mean that the qur'an will be banned from muslim faith schools now?
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Nov 22 2010, 10:06 PM
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This is a perfect example of why the EDL is needed.
The programme is also showing that Muslim communities need to do more to integrate.

Expect to see more people sign up to the forum because they seen this on tv.


Muslims cannot integrate. The koran says more than a dozen times that muslims should not take non-muslims for friends.

Well Muslims can integrate, although if they do they are defying the Quran.
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Would it have been to much to have a little mention of the EDL, then again they never mention the muzzas when reporting our riots!
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Nov 22 2010, 10:13 PM
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This is a perfect example of why the EDL is needed.
The programme is also showing that Muslim communities need to do more to integrate.

Expect to see more people sign up to the forum because they seen this on tv.


Muslims cannot integrate. The koran says more than a dozen times that muslims should not take non-muslims for friends.

Well Muslims can integrate, although if they do they are defying the Quran.
there for get rid of the qu'ran
get rid of muslim only schools for that matter
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Who wants to intergrate with them ???

The school they showed with a few white kids , were probley polish.

These MPs and Middle Class Communists who bang on about intergrateing with them, should send their children to an 80% muslim school see how they feel about intergration then.
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How can any one integrate if they have seperate schools?
You its a proven scientific fact that more gay blokes went to a single sex school, than mixed, surely that says something.

Same difference really...
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anyone else notice but most of the "schools" they showed were girl schools?
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Nov 22 2010, 09:59 PM
There needs to be more programmes like this on tv.

The BBC were surprisingly unbiased.
MORE MORE MORE !!!!
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at the end of the day these schools teach the kids not to interact with any one els, and the only way to stop that is to ban the Qu;ran
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I would have liked that reporter to say at the end of the programme "An they call it the religion of PEACE".
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Care to comment on radicalisation now larkin....?
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MDL wall is foaming at the mouth at the moment lol

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i didnt think it showed anything we didnt already know
it was probably a token gesture to the centre-right
now we should wait for the reverse ...
"EDL murder 20 million and are the cause of global warming"
why didnt they go a bit deeper ? there is much worse than that actually happening here

a drop in the ocean - but at least its a start
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Bloody Nora, just like Nazi Propaganda .
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I watched the programme, hope it wakes up MORE people! absolutely shocking that this is happening in schools..wish the Saudi government gave a comment, but as usual..silence from them... hope more people join the EDL!
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the silence is deafening ...

so hope not hate, UAF, unions, wmp et el .... what have you got to say about this then ?

we cant hear you ..... truth hurts doesn't it ... the EDL has spent over a year protesting about this kind of thing, you called the EDL racist .. when this panorama programme clearly demonstrated the only thing racist is the koran and the islamist that follow its every word ...

THE KORAN = MEIN KEMPF ....

Moslims do NOT want to integrate, moslims do NOT want unbelivers as friends .. we are pigs and monkeys, moslims do NOT want gays in society ... all those brave men and women that fought for our freedoms, what a waste of lives ... seriously .. they fought against the nazi's who wanted to kill jews, kill gays .. just as the koran commands moslims to do ... and yet the government, UAF, WMP ... hope not hate .. spit on their very graves .... ... and do not do anything to protect the freedoms we take for granted ! shame on you all ...

WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK .. NO fcukING SURRENDER

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they dont like it up em....
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Nov 22 2010, 10:30 PM
I watched the programme, hope it wakes up MORE people! absolutely shocking that this is happening in schools..wish the Saudi government gave a comment, but as usual..silence from them... hope more people join the EDL!
Think its another "own goal" people will see exactly what their purpose is!!!! wait for the membership of EDL to leap again!!!!!! need to encourage as much as possible people to join us and counteract for generations what these extremists are trying to do!
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Heres a report on it from AlArab online ; http://www.alarabonline.org/english/display.asp?fname=\2010\11\11-22\zsocietyz\970.htm&dismode=x&ts=22-11-2010%2012:50:00
Winston Churchill on Islam ; ' The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world....
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Nov 22 2010, 10:34 PM
the silence is deafening ...

so hope not hate, UAF, unions, wmp et el .... what have you got to say about this then ?

we cant hear you ..... truth hurts doesn't it ... the EDL has spent over a year protesting about this kind of thing, you called the EDL racist .. when this panorama programme clearly demonstrated the only thing racist is the koran and the islamist that follow its every word ...

THE KORAN = MEIN KEMPF ....

Moslims do NOT want to integrate, moslims do NOT want unbelivers as friends .. we are pigs and monkeys, moslims do NOT want gays in society ... all those brave men and women that fought for our freedoms, what a waste of lives ... seriously .. they fought against the nazi's who wanted to kill jews, kill gays .. just as the koran commands moslims to do ... and yet the government, UAF, WMP ... hope not hate .. spit on their very graves .... ... and do not do anything to protect the freedoms we take for granted ! shame on you all ...

WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK .. NO fcukING SURRENDER

My guess would be "it's just a few extremists" lol

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Nov 22 2010, 10:34 PM
the silence is deafening ...

so hope not hate, UAF, unions, wmp et el .... what have you got to say about this then ?

we cant hear you ..... truth hurts doesn't it ... the EDL has spent over a year protesting about this kind of thing, you called the EDL racist .. when this panorama programme clearly demonstrated the only thing racist is the koran and the islamist that follow its every word ...

THE KORAN = MEIN KEMPF ....

Moslims do NOT want to integrate, moslims do NOT want unbelivers as friends .. we are pigs and monkeys, moslims do NOT want gays in society ... all those brave men and women that fought for our freedoms, what a waste of lives ... seriously .. they fought against the nazi's who wanted to kill jews, kill gays .. just as the koran commands moslims to do ... and yet the government, UAF, WMP ... hope not hate .. spit on their very graves .... ... and do not do anything to protect the freedoms we take for granted ! shame on you all ...

WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK .. NO fcukING SURRENDER

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They didn't show anything I ain`t already looked into,,, But there are a lot of potential EDL supporters who were watching who might now wake up, take a look at themselves and do something positive about this mess. Just like we all did. Would i send my kids to a school with 85% of the rest, muslim kids? N.F.C.!!
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others stand against this hate,
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Nov 22 2010, 10:34 PM
the silence is deafening ...

so hope not hate, UAF, unions, wmp et el .... what have you got to say about this then ?

we cant hear you ..... truth hurts doesn't it ... the EDL has spent over a year protesting about this kind of thing, you called the EDL racist .. when this panorama programme clearly demonstrated the only thing racist is the koran and the islamist that follow its every word ...

THE KORAN = MEIN KEMPF ....

Moslims do NOT want to integrate, moslims do NOT want unbelivers as friends .. we are pigs and monkeys, moslims do NOT want gays in society ... all those brave men and women that fought for our freedoms, what a waste of lives ... seriously .. they fought against the nazi's who wanted to kill jews, kill gays .. just as the koran commands moslims to do ... and yet the government, UAF, WMP ... hope not hate .. spit on their very graves .... ... and do not do anything to protect the freedoms we take for granted ! shame on you all ...

WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK .. NO fcukING SURRENDER

well said ^_^
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Muslim Defence League (MDL) I would just like to point that as much as we dislike the approach and behaviour of MAC, to make them "arnt Muslim" is not true. You cannot say that they are not Muslim, you can say that what they do is not a way a Muslim behaves, but to take them out of the fold of Islam is wrong. So brothers please refrain from this.

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So basically everything we say about Islam is true? You will not deny your Muslim brothers no mater what!


Thanks for the clarification cnuty.
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Nov 22 2010, 10:42 PM
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Nov 22 2010, 10:34 PM
the silence is deafening ...

so hope not hate, UAF, unions, wmp et el .... what have you got to say about this then ?

we cant hear you ..... truth hurts doesn't it ... the EDL has spent over a year protesting about this kind of thing, you called the EDL racist .. when this panorama programme clearly demonstrated the only thing racist is the koran and the islamist that follow its every word ...

THE KORAN = MEIN KEMPF ....

Moslims do NOT want to integrate, moslims do NOT want unbelivers as friends .. we are pigs and monkeys, moslims do NOT want gays in society ... all those brave men and women that fought for our freedoms, what a waste of lives ... seriously .. they fought against the nazi's who wanted to kill jews, kill gays .. just as the koran commands moslims to do ... and yet the government, UAF, WMP ... hope not hate .. spit on their very graves .... ... and do not do anything to protect the freedoms we take for granted ! shame on you all ...

WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK .. NO fcukING SURRENDER

well said ^_^
im sory to say but this is all building up to a war

lots of people are going to join, Islamic extremists are going to protest more ans soon there will be a riot for the history books

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how long before there at the BBC protesting again
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I noticed primary school girls were covering their hair?
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Nov 22 2010, 10:26 PM
MDL wall is foaming at the mouth at the moment lol

http://www.facebook.com/Muslim.Defence.League.MDL
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We hope people recognise that every text has a context and that the Saudi interpretation is not necessary the consensus. We also hope that people recognise the Cut&Paste job these media outlets perform, demonising Muslim scholars. Certainly this program will add to rise in Islamaphobia. This is not the first time BBC's Panorama have failed in making a credible documentary.
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Would i send my kids to a school with 85% of the rest, muslim kids? N.F.C.!!
here the same N.F.C.!!!! there lives would become unbearable, they couldn't put up with my kids telling them the truth! :D
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MDL wall is foaming at the mouth at the moment lol

http://www.facebook.com/Muslim.Defence.League.MDL
Thanks for that link, I just found a classic quote on that page:
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I would just like to point that as much as we dislike the approach and behaviour of MAC, to make them "arnt Muslim" is not true. You cannot say that they are not Muslim, you can say that what they do is not a way a Muslim behaves, but to take them out of the fold of Islam is wrong. So brothers please refrain from this.

Next time someone tries to use the excuse that MAC aren't muslims point out this

EDIT: Someone beat me to it whilst I was typing that.
Mental note to myself, must learn to type faster :ermm:
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the WMP will sue the fcukers
how dare they say nasty things about the muzzie massif
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Bugger, I missed this but hopefully it will be on catch up tomorrow.

I certainly think more people will join us after watching this.
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I didn't think I would say this, but I'm going to say it anyway. Fair play to the BBC. They were unbiased, for once.
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This is why i am interested in the EDL, and why i am becoming more and more afraid of what is going to become of the UK. How long is it going to be, before they begin to close these hate schools, that promote segregation!

How can we possibly be the bad one's in all of this?
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sorry guys gota go.. V is on now.. they are kinda like muzzies but with spaceships, not nissan`s with taxi written on the side.
There are those who sit and await their fate,
others stand against this hate,
NO SURRENDER we all shout,
lets get this bloody ISLAM out.
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lol better quote from MDL

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Bro Ahmed be very careful at what you say brother, to call these brothers "not Muslim" is a very dangerous accusation. This is more or less saying they dont believe in Allah (and the Shahada). You have to understand that we might disagree w...ith what they do, but as Muslims we are not allowed to condemn them if they do not break the fundamentals of Islamic Creed. I am not going to go into Islamic Creed, but what I will say is that their actions do not take them our of the fold of Islam. Hence you cannot say that they are not Muslim, because they are.

I am sorry to go on but you have to understand the gravity of the accusation you make. Its ironic because the likes of MAC claim other Muslims are not Muslims (calling them Kuffar) all the time. Regardless this should not take us away from being just.


They are really showing their true colours tonight .. the worms are leaving the can ...
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MDL wall is foaming at the mouth at the moment lol

http://www.facebook.com/Muslim.Defence.League.MDL
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We hope people recognise that every text has a context and that the Saudi interpretation is not necessary the consensus. We also hope that people recognise the Cut&Paste job these media outlets perform, demonising Muslim scholars. Certainly this program will add to rise in Islamaphobia. This is not the first time BBC's Panorama have failed in making a credible documentary.
Are they saying that Saudi's are bad Muslims?
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Muslim Defence League (MDL) Bro Ahmed be very careful at what you say brother, to call these brothers "not Muslim" is a very dangerous accusation. This is more or less saying they dont believe in Allah (and the Shahada). You have to understand that we might disagree with what they do, but as Muslims we are not allowed to condemn them if they do not break the fundamentals of Islamic Creed. I am not going to go into Islamic Creed, but what I will say is that their actions do not take them our of the fold of Islam. Hence you cannot say that they are not Muslim, because they are.

I am sorry to go on but you have to understand the gravity of the accusation you make. Its ironic because the likes of MAC claim other Muslims are not Muslims (calling them Kuffar) all the time. Regardless this should not take us away from being just.

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Nov 22 2010, 10:20 PM

You its a proven scientific fact that more gay blokes went to a single sex school, than mixed, surely that says something.

Same difference really...

Are you serious?

Put a link up, please, to substantiate this claim.
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