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Monarchy..Do you believe it should continue ?
Topic Started: Nov 17 2010, 09:41 PM (1,749 Views)
dudleyanglosaxon
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Nov 17 2010, 11:25 PM
quote]Richard the Lionheart didn't speak English

Didn't know that.What was his native tongue? French for a guess...
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Nov 17 2010, 11:15 PM
i would love to leave the EU, and restore the relationships with the commonwealth ....
Same.
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Nov 17 2010, 11:33 PM
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Nov 17 2010, 11:25 PM
quote]Richard the Lionheart didn't speak English

Didn't know that.What was his native tongue? French for a guess...
Yes mate he only spoke French
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Nov 17 2010, 11:32 PM
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Nov 17 2010, 11:28 PM
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Nov 17 2010, 11:21 PM

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The royals must have thought there was a problem with their surname, that’s why they change it.

Yes they did, and then many royals went on to fight the Germans. What's your point with all this?
Everybody should be proud of their heritage and not bow to political correctness.

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Yes they did, and then many royals went on to fight the Germans. What's your point with all this?
Everybody should be proud of their heritage and not bow to political correctness.

I have no idea what you have been on about with anything you have posted in this thread, I'll leave it there me thinks.
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Quote:Everybody should be proud of their heritage and not bow to political correctness

The name change was nearly a century ago during hostilities with the Germans. Your comment above should be aimed at present day politicians, not the Royal family.
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Nov 17 2010, 11:50 PM
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Everybody should be proud of their heritage and not bow to political correctness.

I have no idea what you have been on about with anything you have posted in this thread, I'll leave it there me thinks.
Thank you for being sincere.

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This is from socialist unity, they should look in the mirror when saying scum.

http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=7179#comments
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i think the queen should get more inivolved with stuff and if she was to restore this country to what it was i think more people will support the royals!
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when i joined up, i swore an oath to protect the queen.
it still holds true to this day.

god save the queen.(but please miss out charles)
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Nov 18 2010, 12:57 AM
when i joined up, i swore an oath to protect the queen.
it still holds true to this day.

god save the queen.(but please miss out charles)
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when i joined up, i swore an oath to protect the queen.
it still holds true to this day.

god save the queen.(but please miss out charles)


niceone mate still got my oath of allegiance in my returning to civvie pack what reg was you in?
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royal corps of transport.i was a trog.lol.
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no way now the RLC
loggy driver me :D
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Nov 18 2010, 01:09 AM
no way now the RLC
loggy driver me :D
aye used to be in 8 regt rct,munster.used to drive aec 10 ton knockers.

small world eh. :D :D :D
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The Queen and Prince Philip have served our country well and will have my support until the end of her riegn, but I do not feel as I could support charles as monarch, if the monarchy ias going to survive its only chance willbe to by-pass charles and go to William who is more in touch with the world we live in
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Nov 18 2010, 01:09 AM
no way now the RLC
loggy driver me :D
aye used to be in 8 regt rct,munster.used to drive aec 10 ton knockers.

small world eh. :D :D :D


sure is did my time in gutersloh
anyways back to topic
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Nov 17 2010, 09:51 PM
Lets not turn into anarchists eh?

From http://anarchistmedia.wordpress.com/

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guys, ive just came on the forums tonight after cummin home from the pub, and i know this is light hearted but memba guys the media cud find this pic on our website and twist it so easily. :-/ just an observation.. "EDL against our royalty" or sum bollocks....
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Im hearing the whingers which passes itself off as our leaders yapping about William and Kate overspending on their wedding. These are the selfsame pasrliamentary hypocrites who not so long ago stole from our taxes by fiddling their benifits and expenses. They allow their cronies trhe bankers to rifle our savings as their bank bonuses just for doing their jobs if you can call losing billions of our money doing a job. Plus they handed out 12 million to fund the popes recen visit here. Now they are handing Ireland a blank cheque up to 70 billion euros to prop up the house of cards which is the Euro. When Ireland goes down the pan and mark my words its only a matter of time what then. Next with the begging bowl are Portugal and Spain.

And dont even start me on the free handouts to every waif and stray of illegal immigrant

and they think we will be outraged by William and Kate getting some of our taxes. I say they dont know what shame is begrudging these two some cash when they are hell bent on lavishing it on all those other crackpot shemes.

This is somthimg I for one am more than happy to see my taxes funding and I wish the two of them a long and very happy life together. Their wedding is already exciting intrest in the USA and other countries and the tourism and other benifits it will attract far outweigh the initial expenses or should I have said INVESTMENT!!!


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Shes a real wee cracker! (AS WE SAY HERE IN ULSTER
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Definately. But we need to get rid of the saxe-coburg gothas and restore the Stuart line. Our own royal family not the german pro (german) eu family. But it is all irrelevant because the lisbon treaty has been signed so there will be no more coronations. The most charles or willie can be are princes. I would rather stick my head up the skirt of a sweaty sock and sniff his rose bud than lower my head an eighth of an inch for a kraut.
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From one of your mongrel convict cousins - I don't think we'll (Oz) become a republic for a long time yet - despite the referendums we have on the subject...we're too fond of the Pom's, and have a grudging respect for the Queen, and what Royalty stands for in the long run. Remember, we fought for King/Queen and country too in all the previous wars - I still remember when God Save The Queen was our national anthem too. Let 'em stay (just don't let Charlie anywhere near the throne, okay?)

Look at the Yanks too, they fall over each other to get within 5km of anyone with a title, and treat Hussein Bin Obama (and all their past Presidents) like royalty, cause they're jealous of your Queen lol.
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Royal wedding seen giving $1 billion lift to UK economy
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AG1HL20101117
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Prince William and his fiancee Kate Middleton (L) pose for a photograph in St. James's Palace, central London November 16, 2010.

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LONDON | Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:52pm GMT

LONDON (Reuters) - The marriage of Prince William to Kate Middleton next year could give a 620 million pound ($985 million) boost to the British economy, retail researchers Verdict said on Wednesday.

The forecast came as Asda, Britain's second-biggest supermarket group, said it was already selling a 5 pound mug to commemorate the engagement of the heir to the British throne to his long-term girlfriend, announced on Tuesday.

Verdict estimated the engagement could be worth 12-18 million pounds in merchandise sales, while sales of wedding-related products could top 26 million pounds.

The real boost to the economy, however, could come from creating a "feel-good factor" among consumers that proved elusive this year with the England team's dismal performance in the soccer World Cup.

"If, as expected, it is a big set-piece event, it could well capture the nation's imagination and provide a fillip to the retail sector," said Verdict consulting director Neil Saunders.

Verdict forecast food and grocery retailers could benefit to the tune of 360 million pounds as shoppers buy treats like wine and champagne to toast the happy couple, while travel and tourism revenues could be boosted by an estimated 216 million.

(Reporting by Mark Potter; Editing by Dan Lalor)
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I should have set up a poll...Strong passions both ways.

I cannot accept that my son is not as good as the Queens...has NOT the same right to lead this great country. Europe suffered a lot to get the freedoms and peace we have.

MY son for the next king...would be cooler.

As for Royality..the Queen has been an absolute credit...but the way her children have been brought up...the Social services should have been involved long ago.

I am patriotic...but believe strongly that the end should come.

Is William better than Charles ???? Poor Kate...just a puppet in an Alice in Nightmare syndrome in several years....Cant see her parents spending a good old family Xmas together...They wont be invited...She sold her soul in blind love (well she knows exactly what she is doing)....a lifetime of crap engagements and to follow meekly behind King action hero. She is too good for that. Her parents will be discared once the formalities are over..every word she wants to say vetted....Hope she has the courage that Fergie and Diana had to fight against the establishment.....but by the time she realises that she is Queen...well Katie in Egoland.

Basic principle...each Englishman is equal and let the nation decide.

This is NOT a left or Right political view.

I am not a subject of a German/Greek dynasty. (Apart from my son)

Hope they can find some normality...So many people kissing their asses and not be able to go and hit the Normal town.....

Viva la republic
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not this old chestnut
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"Poor Kate...just a puppet in an Alice in Nightmare syndrome in several years....Cant see her parents spending a good old family Xmas together...They wont be invited...She sold her soul in blind love (well she knows exactly what she is doing)....a lifetime of crap engagements and to follow meekly behind King action hero."

Didn't she stalk him to St Andrews? That's what some of our less reputable gossip rags have said - she set her sights on him, and got the prize in the end?

The Royal family are always going to have issues, like any other family - let them get on with it - it makes Britain unique!
Well, as unique as any other country with a monarchy lol!
Edited by western feminista, Nov 19 2010, 02:19 AM.
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:wub: As I said...she knows what she is doing..let her suck on Royality....We should save up as a country to buy her a bicycle ...or send her to Denmark..she might meet a cooler Hamlet
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Nov 17 2010, 11:33 PM
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Nov 17 2010, 11:25 PM
quote]Richard the Lionheart didn't speak English

Didn't know that.What was his native tongue? French for a guess...
FRENCH !! Just google it and the rest of the Royals ...Where do you think Mountbatton comes from ?

and the Windsor name ?
Edited by lionsingh, Nov 19 2010, 02:36 AM.
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lol! Princess Mary did okay for herself too - meeting a prince at the pub! Being from Tasmania though, I doubt she'd even heard of Hamlet, or Shakespeare lol! At least Waity Katie can read! :)
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Nov 19 2010, 02:35 AM
:wub: As I said...she knows what she is doing..let her suck on Royality....We should save up as a country to buy her a bicycle ...or send her to Denmark..she might meet a cooler Hamlet
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Nov 17 2010, 11:33 PM
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Nov 17 2010, 11:25 PM
quote]Richard the Lionheart didn't speak English

Didn't know that.What was his native tongue? French for a guess...
FRENCH !! Just google it and the rest of the Royals ...Where do you think Mountbatton comes from ?

and the Windsor name ?
i thought the windsor name was adopted after the first world war, adopted from the name of the house residency in windsor castle, its the old german surname thing all over again. saxo-summat-goth, weve been through this one loads of times!
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Hands off our Monarchy - except Charles, he is a worry!
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Without a monarchy we would probably have an elected head of state. The idea is scary. Imagine one of those parasites in parliament as our president. Elizabeth II has been a fantastic monarch and I defy anyone to prove otherwise. As a Royal Marine recruit, long ago, I swore allegiance to Her, not a politician not a flag, the Queen is the embodiment of our nation. She is apoliitical and wise enough to influence the clowns of whichever government is in 'power' without appearing to do so. Ditch our system that has taken centuries to develop? You must be mad. We have the most stable political system in the world. Don't fix it 'til iit's broke.
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God save the Queen!!! Rather have a Queen/King that an Ayatollah or some European President. Although people like air miles Andy, Edward and other not in direct line Royals should get off the public purse unless employed at minimum wage level to do a specific job.
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Nov 19 2010, 02:06 AM
I should have set up a poll...Strong passions both ways.

I cannot accept that my son is not as good as the Queens...has NOT the same right to lead this great country. Europe suffered a lot to get the freedoms and peace we have.

MY son for the next king...would be cooler.

As for Royality..the Queen has been an absolute credit...but the way her children have been brought up...the Social services should have been involved long ago.

I am patriotic...but believe strongly that the end should come.

Is William better than Charles ???? Poor Kate...just a puppet in an Alice in Nightmare syndrome in several years....Cant see her parents spending a good old family Xmas together...They wont be invited...She sold her soul in blind love (well she knows exactly what she is doing)....a lifetime of crap engagements and to follow meekly behind King action hero. She is too good for that. Her parents will be discared once the formalities are over..every word she wants to say vetted....Hope she has the courage that Fergie and Diana had to fight against the establishment.....but by the time she realises that she is Queen...well Katie in Egoland.

Basic principle...each Englishman is equal and let the nation decide.

This is NOT a left or Right political view.

I am not a subject of a German/Greek dynasty. (Apart from my son)

Hope they can find some normality...So many people kissing their asses and not be able to go and hit the Normal town.....

Viva la republic
fcuk you you republican traitor scum

hope you enjoy the royal wedding dont like the royals fcuk off to north korea or ireland and remember to hand in your passport as you leave


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Nov 19 2010, 03:09 PM
God save the Queen!!! Rather have a Queen/King that an Ayatollah or some European President. Although people like air miles Andy, Edward and other not in direct line Royals should get off the public purse unless employed at minimum wage level to do a specific job.
you mean prince andrew who served with the royal navy including during the falklands war?
Edited by Harold Godwinson, Nov 19 2010, 03:24 PM.
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As Britain slowly sinks into the pool of Islamification, and the government is inevitably swamped, I think the sovereign will be what most true patriots increasingly try to cling to.
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Have no problem with the queen and her family but the hangers on need trimming down.When liz goes they should make william king.charlie is a tosser.how could anyone prefer cammila to diana is beyond me.i was sad when diana died i kind of hoped our paths would cross some day and we would get it on.sob sob
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Havnt read all the posts to many, but i support the Queen and i would like Harry to be King when she goes. Charles history as been very sympathetic to Islam, and William seems a bit mard to me.
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Nov 17 2010, 10:11 PM
The monarchy represents me as a Briton far more than any politician ever would.
It is an intrinsic part of British and English heritage and culture, and I for one would die before I saw a British republic, it will never happen. At least the monarchs send their kids to serve the country, something our politicians never do
;) Spot on. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN & the E E EDL
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No comment :) Except that I'm with the Sex pistols on this one
"He that wishes to see his country robbed of its rights can not be a patriot". Samual Johnson

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I haven't read all the posts either, but Me myseelf am a royalist proud to have a royal family that have remained loyal to the country throughout the centuries, me personally i couldn't bear to think of a "president Blair" could you imagine? = islamic state within a fortnight!!!
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The Royal family do a lot for tourists... unfortunately, some forgot to go home....
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I want to keep the monarchy. It's good old fashioned tradition, it's a figurehead, it's what we have rallied under for centuries.
As an aussie in Australia, I voted for Oz to be a republic in the referendum. But here in England.....how could we ever get rid of our Queen? The monarchy is synonymous with England.
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I want to keep the monarchy. It's good old fashioned tradition, it's a figurehead, it's what we have rallied under for centuries.
As an aussie in Australia, I voted for Oz to be a republic in the referendum. But here in England.....how could we ever get rid of our Queen? The monarchy is synonymous with England.
Plus it'd be an ar$e changing all the money....
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the abolition of the monarchy? well let's see who's anti monarchy-anjem choudary-george allahway-red ken-martin "stone island " smith-weyman met a pieman-bennett - nick lowles-gerry gable-jack straw-peter hain-gerry adams- martin mcgiunness-alex salmond-etc-reds-commies-islamists-traitors- me ? i'm firmly a monarchist. ns
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I want to keep the monarchy. It's good old fashioned tradition, it's a figurehead, it's what we have rallied under for centuries.
As an aussie in Australia, I voted for Oz to be a republic in the referendum. But here in England.....how could we ever get rid of our Queen? The monarchy is synonymous with England.
don't understand that logic m8 -remember arse wipes like keating want the union jack off your flag- wonder why?
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I am PROUD of my country and i am PROUD of OUR traditions and that includes the royal family.



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If we get rid of the Royal Family we may as well throw in the towel as a nation.
We would jsut be another EU statelet with no culture, heritage, traditions or identity.

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Keep the monarchy but stop paying for it, they have their own private businesses, land and investments. They are perfectly capable of funding themselves but we still pay significant amounts to them for no particular reason.

You can argue that they are an important tourist attraction and this upcoming marriage is going to boost the economy but it would do so whether we funded it or whether they funded it themselves. They essentially are richer than most of the forbes members yet essentially get handed a huge benefit check.

I like the monarchy but they are perfectly capable of looking after themselves when it comes to money.
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God save the queen!!
we should keep the monarchy.
Her majesty dosen't have much power anyway ( which is a shame :( ) so there is no need to become a republic.

12 prime ministers gone but the queen lives on :)
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Yes, I firmly believe that the Monarchy should continue at all costs.

Surely the preservation of all British values, traditions, establishments and entire social system is paramount within the EDLs agenda.

Who wants a soddin President ?
Forgot to say

"God bless her Majesty the Queen".
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Subject Harold Godwinson ....as you say i have been guilty of treason....

"fcuk you you republican traitor scum

hope you enjoy the royal wedding dont like the royals fcuk off to north korea or ireland and remember to hand in your passport as you leave"

I am NOT a traitor because I believe the Monarchy is outdated and past its sell bite date. Now I am Scum because like the US or Germany etc ...I would rather have a Republic. yes I am a proud Brit Republican (Fcuk all to do with Irish politics)...and fcuk you very much....

As for my passport...dont really feel like a SUBJECT. GOD SAVE THE COUNTRY. My country..my home...are you going to take it off me. Coventry....not very loyal are we ? ;-)

FAO stealth "The Royal family do a lot for tourists... unfortunately, some forgot to go home.... "...lets auction them off. Will help the Conlibs with the deficit.

We live in a democracy..as the Queen is our chosen head of state..I will fully respect that...and the position. Hope she will be the last monarch.

Dont believe in blood rights for power. Every new born Brit should be free to reach the pinnacle of power. Not a dysfunctional family .

Its a political question...not me being personally against the Queen as a person.

There is a lot of passion for the institute...so that is our choice. I have a vote as well.

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the word monarchy means highest order in the land, there fore there is no monarchy because the EU has the highest order in the land.
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Keep the monarchy but stop paying for it, they have their own private businesses, land and investments. They are perfectly capable of funding themselves but we still pay significant amounts to them for no particular reason.

You can argue that they are an important tourist attraction and this upcoming marriage is going to boost the economy but it would do so whether we funded it or whether they funded it themselves. They essentially are richer than most of the forbes members yet essentially get handed a huge benefit check.

I like the monarchy but they are perfectly capable of looking after themselves when it comes to money.
Similar views to mine. I get a bit peed off when I see how much Joe Public pays to support the Royal family by way of the Civil list and then I read that the British taxpayer also pays Prince Charles close on a million pounds a year in rent for Dartmoor prison. However, the saving grace for me when I am bean counting is that I am pretty sure the amount spent by foreign tourists visiting the UK largely because of our Royal family supposedly far outweighs the cost of running the Royals.
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