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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 12 2010, 05:49 PM (1,203 Views) | |
| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 12 2010, 05:49 PM Post #1 |
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Right guys, ive been trolling about the forums, different websites, looking into different things, now we all know about the lads awaiting trial for the burning of the Qur'an (although this is not a specific crime under british law) and even the possibility of them facing jail time (ludicrous) just to make an example. Now i ask this, in contrast, why are the islamic's who where arrested not facing the exact same charges for yesterdays events, as i cant really differentiate between the two? food for thought maybe. In summery about why im posting the obvious, i will find where to buy one of these large books of toilet paper. and gladly, openly burn it, accepting the fact i will be arrested, then stand before the judge and give a big fcuk you to the chap. (nothing personal) And if these lads do face more time than is needed behind bars. (a couple of months max should be the appropriate max penalty as obviously it still is a form of arson and a public nuisance) i will solemnly swear to follow out what i say and i hope many will join me, its a big ask but such things are achieved and bring mass attention to such a case, and on how messed up our current system is (meaning the government currently care to much about the outside mans civil rights than our own. and yes dare i say it, how currently corrupt our government is (please no one quote or ask about that specific statement ) Cass pennant is a good example of this back in the terrace days, caused uproar with many things government related and had caused some extremely successful marches on downing street regarding various beliefs back in the day (bearing in mind all while he was behind bars) What i am saying is this, i will openly with great pride with or without others, burn the Qur'an whilst standing proud, chanting something along the lines of Islamic extremists burn in hell.... see just what effect it will have (if anything it may bring sum of the mozzies out the woodwork so some they can be i.d'd and tracked down) i say all this due to simply how fed up i am with our system and how i think we have all forgot or mostly forgot, one man, with the right backing and beliefs can change a nation. I will gladly do the time, to send that little effect shuddering right trough the hearts, minds and souls of any of the MAC supporters and with a bit of luck, receive maybe enough attention that there news in their country is outraged by this, so they can see, we are a small nation with a great big fcuking heart who will stop at nothing to hold our ground in our country. Open feedback is welcome, or a similar idea u may think may have a better effect i or we could undertake. Kind Regards Ricky. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 12 2010, 06:09 PM Post #2 |
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The governments of Saudi Arabia and Iran have both proudly proclaimed that they routinely pulp and destroy bibles in those countries. There are currently 6 lads in Gateshead awaiting trial for burning a koran. They are being prosecuted under the 2006 Religious Hatred Act. They key to succumbing to prosecution under an act that was basically designed to protect muslims, is whether or not the accused intended to stir up religious hatred by their acts. However, the police have been informed by the Crown Prosecution Service that the action of burning a Koran is the accepted islamic tradition of disposing of an unwanted (e.g. damaged) Koran. I realise that you may be wanting the media/legal/political publicity your actions would bring. That is highly laudable. And I salute your bravery. It is in the spirit of some of the most important political movements this country has ever seen. Just in case you are not aware of it, have no doubt that the judicial system in this country deeply favours muslims. Whilst the Dudley2 from EDL were beaten up by armed police & served 4 weeks on remand for playing some music (before finally having ALL charges dropped), a 52 y.o. muslim child-rapist from Bradford was NOT put on remand, and escaped to Pakistan half way through his trial. An 18 y.o. from Belfast who was accused of "child rape" for having sex with a 15 y.o. was held on remand. There is a reason why the statue of justice has a blindfold and pair of balanced scales. Interestingly, the one atop the Old Bailey has no blindfold. She needs to see when it is a muslim who is on trial so they can receive special treatment. |
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 12 2010, 06:20 PM Post #3 |
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Thanks for your input matey, i will say now, its something i shall be doing, and although some may think im foolish and arrogant openly saying this on the web but i will be gladly going forward with my actions once the right support is in place and the ive discussed it all with my breif. And let me say know, if one such copper intends of handling me the wrong way when im doing whats right for our country, i will gladly add "assault against a police officer" (or more than likely multiple coppers) to the conviction list, as they will not be the honest man i want in our police force, they will just be another one the the liberty taking jobsworth i want off the payroll our taxes pays for. cheerio for now. |
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| made in England | Nov 12 2010, 06:39 PM Post #4 |
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The two worst crimes you can ever commit on British soil is to either evade the taxman or upset Muslims. Rape, murder, pedophilia come a distant second |
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 12 2010, 06:43 PM Post #5 |
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here here. |
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| 1Pat | Nov 12 2010, 06:52 PM Post #6 |
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We are currently at a junction between remaining disciplined within the EDL family (acting within the law) and reacting to Islamic Fascist burning of poppies and disrespecting Remembrance Day. The powers that be want to ban the EDL so we “EDL” must all conform to peaceful protest. However on an individual level as far as I am concerned the gloves are off. |
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 12 2010, 06:59 PM Post #7 |
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With regards with how i shall act, i will not tarnish the name of EDL and say im acting on your behalf, i will be acting on behalf of the many that feel the same as us and me. Like i said in my previous post, one man can change a nation with the right support. So for any who worry that i may give us a bad light in the press, do not worry i will be acting off my own accord, but there comes a time when we all will have to take a step back, and know laws will have to be broken to better this country again. for the government and laws need a massive shake up and wake up call before its to late, i will not condemn my boy to live in fear for when he's older, i will make whatever difference i can to better his future now while i can. |
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| ErnieBig | Nov 12 2010, 07:00 PM Post #8 |
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Its EID next wednesday (or Tuesday if the moon is not as expected - don't ask me to explain but its true) so i would have thought that would be a perfect day for any protest. The principle that the Islamic scum can DEEPLY offend us and yet we can't do anything to offend them is surely wortnfighting for. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 12 2010, 07:03 PM Post #9 |
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There are more effective ways to diss a Qu'ran than burning it. The Muzzies have to do some very messy things if even a page from it ends up in the shi'itehouse: 141. "If a page from the holy Qur'an, or any sacred object like a paper on which the names of Almighty Allah or the Holy Prophet or the holy Imams are written, falls in a lavatory, it is obligatory to take it out and make it Pak with water, no matter what expenses it may entail. And, if it is not possible to take it out, the use of that lavatory should be discontinued till such time when one is certain that the page has dissolved and petered out. Similarly, if Turbatul Husayn (the sacred earth of Karbala, usually formed into a tablets to place one's forehead on, while offering prayers) falls into lavatory, and it is not possible to take it out, the lavatory should not be used until one becomes sure that it (Turbatul Husayn) has ceased to exist, and no trace of it is present there." More lavatorial uses for the Qu'ran at http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/koran-in-toilet.html P.S. It's got to be a real Qu'ran in the original Arabic. Translations don't count. |
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 12 2010, 07:06 PM Post #10 |
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I believe EID has come and gone my friend (sept 10th) according to the infamous Google anyway. would of been a nice moment for it though. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 12 2010, 07:45 PM Post #11 |
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Good for you. I'm all for EDL remaining within the law, at the moment. But what individuals choose to do according to their conscience and principles is for none of us to criticise if it involves non-violent protest (hitting someone trying to stop you is still non-violent in my book). One of the men I admire most in EDL is nowhere near the leadership, but he points out (rightly I think) that EDL is the most important movement in Britain since the Chartists 150 years ago. Muslims have threatened us for writing novels, attacking terrorists, attacking tyrants, drawing cartoons, and even just saying "there are things we don't like about your religion". When I studied history at school it was mostly forgettable. But the stories of child labour, the Chartists and the suffragettes have lived on with me throughout my life. If women were prepared to die for the vote, people in Britain had better start getting ready for some drastic action to preserve our way of life. How different were the suffragettes from these spineless suicide bombers. Many of the suffragettes would have thought they may go to hell for taking their own lives; these cowards believe they are going to paradise. The suffragettes were truly heroic compared to those scumbag terrorists. Please PM me if I can be of any help. I am waiting to have a meeting with the CPS soon on the very issue of the legality of koran burning. |
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 12 2010, 07:55 PM Post #12 |
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Again thanks for the input matey, keep me in the loop with what happens with the CPS as i will be intrigued to see what they say about it. like i say im seeing my brief on Monday to go into more depth as to possible sentences, and different loop holes ect, Once i have a good idea of the consequence ill face i will go ahead with planning it all, will hopefully meet with my division soon to discuss it and will obviously talk it over with a few faces when i can get to a rally. whatever happens i shall be keeping u all firmly in the loop. Thanks |
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| londonloyal | Nov 12 2010, 08:56 PM Post #13 |
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its arafat day next week - http://islam.about.com/od/calendar/f/2010dayarafat.htm |
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| arthurian59 | Nov 12 2010, 09:16 PM Post #14 |
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hello to all my british brothers,we band of british brothers,we lucky few,hopefully to be millions of us then the tide will turn and the militant bastards will finally get fcuked off home, finally joined today,should have been sooner, poppy burning at rememberance was the final straw. i totally agree with every thing said on this forum. |
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| Rule Britannia | Nov 12 2010, 09:18 PM Post #15 |
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 12 2010, 09:20 PM Post #16 |
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Nice, Im pretty much going along the lines of doing it as soon as, if it falls on a big Islamic holiday then great if not i shall still be making it enough to send shivers right back though the mugs spine's. Im going along the lines of basically burning their sacred bible as they burnt what was close to us, and obviously having a pretty decent crowd along the way chanting something creative, i also had ideas about pretty much doing it in multiple places with big enuf crowds, covering any Islamic communities along the way (as many as i can manage before getting pinched of course!) The places will be sent to a mate via text who will then tell u all on here as obviously its a bit daft telling it all up front to just get lifted before im able to do anything. May i remind all those who have read this and reading this, this is not racial and targeted at all Muslims, this is solely to turn the stomachs of all those who supported what happened yesterday and support anything that may be Islamic extremism. I hope this will be the beginning of something, as yesterday they (from there own mouths) declared war on our streets and i do not plan for my new born boy to grow under such a fcuked up government as well these mugs to overpopulate and rule our schools and streets, with the current fcuked up government doing nothing about it. Sorry about the language guys! touchy subject ![]() Also as stated i will do this my own is EDL don't want the bad publicity, but im sure there's a way we can get around it. Thanks |
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| General Pershing | Nov 12 2010, 09:28 PM Post #17 |
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In your defence, when arrested for burning the Koran, you can simply say it was an experiment. The hypothesis being that 'sh1t doesn't burn' was being put to the test. Needless to say, it IS sh1t and it WON'T burn! Why not soak it in pig fat before puting a flame to it? At least that'll help it burn
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 12 2010, 09:35 PM Post #18 |
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lol that made me giggle. from the quick convo with me brief earlier with what i have in mind, the most i could get under British law is around 6 months (probally half as we all know with parole) and im more than willing to give that amount of time up for it. that's only if the appeals ill have in place fail anyway (whitch im hopeing they wont) lol |
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| General Pershing | Nov 12 2010, 09:38 PM Post #19 |
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Why burn just one though? They're as cheap as chips so why not burn a whole fcuking pile of them and put an effagy of Mohammed on top before dousing it in pigs fat and torching the fcuking lot of them? fcuk Islam back to hell where it came from! Of course this can't be an EDL act but there's no reason an individual can't go for it. Edited by General Pershing, Nov 12 2010, 09:39 PM.
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 12 2010, 09:40 PM Post #20 |
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And i quote myself earlier chap, i do plan on doing it in several places or in one big demonstration, its just a case of how many i can burn before being nicked to be fair son. |
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| General Pershing | Nov 12 2010, 09:44 PM Post #21 |
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Well, if you turn up with a flat-bed full to the gunnels with korans then I guess you could torch the fcuking lot of them. Make sure you burn Mohammed too! If you're looking for free korans then I have one or two kicking around. I've been using them as sh1t paper but they're no good even for that. |
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 12 2010, 09:49 PM Post #22 |
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i have been thinking of a mass way to transit a sh1t load of them to a certain "religions" area and to pretty much flash mob an area supporting me trowing petrol onto the collection. and boom. bit extreme, but i feel we are in extreme times. (maybe a slightly longer sentence that way lol) |
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| General Pershing | Nov 12 2010, 09:52 PM Post #23 |
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If you're serious about making an impact then you need to think this through. Speak to a good lawyer before you do it and take HS up on his offer. PM him for advice. |
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 12 2010, 09:54 PM Post #24 |
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o its defiantly a serious matter im defiantly going to do. and im already in contact with me brief, appointment with him on Monday morning to discuss it further appreciate the concern tho lol
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| General Pershing | Nov 12 2010, 10:01 PM Post #25 |
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Probably best not to post it all over this forum though. There are folk on here watching and reading who aren't who they appear to be. Be careful what you say on here mate, they'll be at your door with a warrant in the middle of the night. PM HS, he's a good 'un. I'm sure he's got some great ideas on how to maximise the impact of such a glorious spectacle. Just make sure you burn the paedophile Mohammed! |
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Are there any laws against using bacon rashers as bookmarks? |
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| arthurian59 | Nov 12 2010, 10:04 PM Post #27 |
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sorry to my british sisters,what about the sh1t in the states when the pastor threatened to burn the holy bog roll, that soon got ushed up. |
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| General Pershing | Nov 12 2010, 10:09 PM Post #28 |
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The reverand bent to the pressure. I don't think NorthamptonBRITISH would bend under pressure. Needs to make a point though, other than just burning their stinking book for the sake of it. Needs to be burning it for a reason the public will understand. Maybe the fact that they worship a paedophile and believe that sex with children is acceptable in Islam. Well, it's a starter for ten good reaons! |
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 12 2010, 10:10 PM Post #29 |
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they can kick down my door in, im only telling a story feller, u all heard me yeh? its just fictional what im saying, i do not intend to do any wrong doing. lol. I know the home office has this site under watch, and they cant do sweet fack all to me untill ive done what i want to do, so dont worry im careful with what i say all will be fine, lol i love the concern from yas tho! Thanks |
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I remember about a year ago, there was a news report saying that some Saudi Mullah had declared that homosexuality was as immoral as paedophilia, and all I could think was "well they don't seem to have a problem with paedos, so they're obviously tolerant of gays as well now." |
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| General Pershing | Nov 12 2010, 10:17 PM Post #31 |
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Just saying, burning a pile of korans is a good way to get on the news and getting on the news is a good way to raise awareness. I bet most people in this country don't even know that Mohammed, the beloved prophet of sin was a child raping, mass murdering paedophile. Good way to let them know! It is said that he single handedly beheaded 900 innocent Jews in one day. This is the guy who wrote the fcuking koran (spit). Edited by General Pershing, Nov 12 2010, 10:17 PM.
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| Digger | Nov 12 2010, 10:17 PM Post #32 |
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| General Pershing | Nov 12 2010, 10:21 PM Post #33 |
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Google my username then, that'll give you some insight into my way of thinking.
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 12 2010, 10:25 PM Post #34 |
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googled! very interesting. explains ure user-name then lol! Just nipping down the pub for the evening now guys and gals, will reply to any new posts when i get back or in the morning. night. Edited by Northants.EDL.1991, Nov 12 2010, 10:26 PM.
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| General Pershing | Nov 12 2010, 10:28 PM Post #35 |
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On a serious note though. They burn our poppies on remembrance day and insult the memory of our loved ones who died in battle defending this land! Not so long ago these scumbags would have been hung drawn and quartered. Dousing their their stinking korans in pig fat and torching them is a symbolic gesture that the feeling is mutual! fcuk ISLAM TO HELL WHERE IT CAME FROM! |
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| BigChris | Nov 12 2010, 10:39 PM Post #36 |
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He got a personel call from Mohammed Hussein Obama
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 13 2010, 02:16 AM Post #37 |
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right forgive me ignorance, again. but who the bloody hell is he? Ive googled it and its comeing up borrack obama? dident think u meant ye old U.S prezzy? do u? lol? |
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| GREENJACKET | Nov 13 2010, 02:49 AM Post #38 |
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This is whats so wrong! They can burn our flag, they can burn the bible, they can chant hate against people in our country! Yet if we (British people) burn there little book or so much as look at them funny we are met with the full force of our own god damn laws! If I was to walk to my city center and stand there and burn a bible, the Police would do nothing and I would probably get called a cuple of names by passers by. But change it to the Quran and I would be arrested for preaching hate and labled a racist! Why is this who are the people who make these rules up as they go along Burning the Quran should mean nothing, if you did it infront of a crowd all the people watching should just think "what a weirdo" as all it is is a bloody book! But NO not in this country its classed the same as armed robbery |
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| BigChris | Nov 13 2010, 02:53 AM Post #39 |
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Yep thats the chap, Commander in Chief US Forces untill the next election over there anyway
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 13 2010, 02:57 AM Post #40 |
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ah lol, weren't sure, i thought it was sum random Islamic dude Ive not heard of, haha funny hearing the U.S presidents full name for the first time... well not sure if funny is the right word. but still lol. |
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| desade | Nov 13 2010, 04:07 AM Post #41 |
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Northants, EDL.1991. If you go ahead and do this you will become a hero, and an example of courage and determination to the rest of us. NFSE. |
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 13 2010, 04:20 AM Post #42 |
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cheerz for the support fella, but its not a case of heroism or reputation. Its a case of pride, integrity and the genuine fear i have for our country, the country my new born boy is going to grow up in, id rather sacrifice part of my life just to get the opportunity to be heard and to get the rest of those who are to afraid to speak out, to speak out, and just to have that chance that we might be able to make a difference is a risk worth taking for me. Id rather live knowing Ive tried and failed, than failed to have tried. Thanks |
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I'm sure that's a personal viewpoint, Desade? I personally agree, but we're not entitled to speak for anybody else. |
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| tulsa9856thomas | Nov 13 2010, 01:13 PM Post #44 |
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yes bit extreme and will get more than 6months best way of doing it i would sugest is talking to local police (bit of a downer i know) but if you was to inform them that you was to protest in a large group of say 20 about MDL and MAC and that it will be as peaceful as possible and just try to get them on your side duno if it will help and fully agree with what you are doing mate would love to be there also if your going around other places pop into Leicester
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 13 2010, 04:18 PM Post #45 |
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To be honest my friend, i know EDL fully support peaceful protests, and i fully support that aswell, but i genuinly feel its to late to just walk into a police station asking for help, the british puplic have cried out for help to many times, its fallen on deaf ears, the police have there hands tied by certain mugs in downing street. Like i say action will be taken, and it will not be as peaceful as some may wish, and i apologize in advance for that, but as ive stated preveiously, desperate times call for desperate mesures. Thanks |
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| Northants.EDL.1991 | Nov 15 2010, 04:32 AM Post #46 |
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Bump ------------ Just thaught id bump as i have the appointment with me breif tomoz to go over the current plans i have in place. Will keep u all in the loop as to the exact plans i have in place and what me brief fills me in with. Will also inbox certain seniors accordingly. Thanks
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| Xboxgen | Nov 15 2010, 04:51 AM Post #47 |
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hang on a minute his full name is Barack Mohammed Hussein Obama? seriously? no messing? |
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| western feminista | Nov 15 2010, 05:01 AM Post #48 |
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Yep - true it is. His father is Muslim, his brother (half?) has just married a teenager (he is 52) see link : http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/10/15/politics/main6962062.shtml he spent 4 years in Jakarta, attending a National school (local school) where learning Islam is mandatory. As for the Qu'ran thing, would it be an idea to burn maybe both a bible, and a Qu'ran? That may show that you are not about to get bashed by rabid baptists, but that the Muslims take themselves far too seriously...afterall, I don't think that Jesus would mind the bible being burnt - he trashed a marketplace didn't he? (I'm a lapsed Anglican, so my religious knowledge about C of E is woefully small...I seem to know more about that other lot lol.) Please, no one take offence - it is just a suggestion to show a double standard. Edited by western feminista, Nov 15 2010, 05:04 AM.
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| Xboxgen | Nov 15 2010, 05:08 AM Post #49 |
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he kept that one quiet. first we hear hussian now muhammed. and his brothers a polygamist it just gets better. I mean i've got a grin on my face but its more a grin of dispair. at a world that would that has been so badly duped. this should have been common knowledge instead he won his presidency by omission. they should have him impeached. |
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| uk4ever | Nov 15 2010, 05:10 AM Post #50 |
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Are we going to show some support for these lads? |
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