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German MP States facts that Muslims can't integrate.
Topic Started: Nov 10 2010, 12:36 AM (160 Views)
niall
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Not seen this already posted, apologies if so. A very interesting read, need more MP's like that over here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/gavinhewitt/2010/11/how_sarrazin_s_immigration_vie.html
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scotsguy
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did you see the report on the bbc news tonight?,and it mentioned muslims specifically!...my the times are a changing over at the bbc....
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It's a fact that Muslims have difficulties integrating, and when they have their own area it often becomes completely Islamised, due to the failure of the Muslims to integrate.

I'm sure Imams preach to Muslims who attend their Mosques that they shouldn't integrate into "Kaffur" society.
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scotsguy
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the quoran tells them not to intergrate basically!...nothing to do with the host nation being racist towards them either!....

The Koran (5, 51) ordered

"o ye who believe ! Take not the Jews and Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them..Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk "


i wish the uk gov would wake up to this......
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What annoys me is that, while Angela Merkel and other German politicians are admitting that multiculturalism there has failed, they aren't doing anything about it.

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its a start!....when you have 5 million moderate islamics living in your midst...her statement was a direct go at them!

david wants to let 70 million of them into europe!....i think not david!...
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Nov 10 2010, 12:48 AM
What annoys me is that, while Angela Merkel and other German politicians are admitting that multiculturalism there has failed, they aren't doing anything about it.

I'm afraid this comes down to politics 101 as the Americans say.

Politicians who are losing votes (and Merkel is) will often talk tough to shore up their core support.

Politicians will rarely in the EU actually do something that is out of their purview, the EU rules on immigration and repatriation wont let the Germans deal with their Muslim problem, same in the UK.
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Yeah it is a start, but if they know that there is a major problem with Muslim immigrants and integration then they should be at least doing something about it.

But I guess they must be planning to sort the problems out somehow.
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Nov 10 2010, 12:48 AM
What annoys me is that, while Angela Merkel and other German politicians are admitting that multiculturalism there has failed, they aren't doing anything about it.

you know, I think actually voicing it is a start.

I think we can thank Geert Wilders for it, and its only baby steps at the moment but its a start, and a very welcome one :)
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Nov 10 2010, 01:04 AM
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Nov 10 2010, 12:48 AM
What annoys me is that, while Angela Merkel and other German politicians are admitting that multiculturalism there has failed, they aren't doing anything about it.

you know, I think actually voicing it is a start.
You're right, although she could be just talking tough,

look at Quiet_Man's post:

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Politicians who are losing votes (and Merkel is) will often talk tough to shore up their core support.

I think that will explain what Merkel is doing.

Sarkozy was doing the same
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best thing would be to opt out of tha EU,after all what do the EU do for us?

cue - the old monty python sketch about "what the romans do for us!"
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you guys should have watched gavin hewitts report on the bbc news tonight!...he directly mentioned the muslims!...times are a changing!....i just wish the uk gov would follow....they could start by explaining to all uk non muslims....why the muslims wont intergrate...heres the answer...direct from the koran!


The Koran (5, 51) ordered

"o ye who believe ! Take not the Jews and Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them..Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk "


so uk gov....why dont you tell us this???
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Nov 10 2010, 01:16 AM
you guys should have watched gavin hewitts report on the bbc news tonight!...he directly mentioned the muslims!...times are a changing!....i just wish the uk gov would follow....they could start by explaining to all uk non muslims....why the muslims wont intergrate...heres the answer...direct from the koran!


The Koran (5, 51) ordered

"o ye who believe ! Take not the Jews and Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them..Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk "


so uk gov....why dont you tell us this???
No matter how much I wish they would
Mate. I just can't see it happening. Spineless fcuker's
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Nov 10 2010, 01:10 AM
English Angel
Nov 10 2010, 01:04 AM
We-Are-The-British
Nov 10 2010, 12:48 AM
What annoys me is that, while Angela Merkel and other German politicians are admitting that multiculturalism there has failed, they aren't doing anything about it.

you know, I think actually voicing it is a start.
You're right, although she could be just talking tough,

look at Quiet_Man's post:

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Politicians who are losing votes (and Merkel is) will often talk tough to shore up their core support.

I think that will explain what Merkel is doing.

Sarkozy was doing the same
true, often politicians do talk tough to shore up their core vote, but I seriously doubt they would do the reverse and put their career on the line (a la Wilders) by possibly being tainted with the racist label without serious forethought
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