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bible event in defiance of EDL DEMO; LANCASHIRE EVENING POST
Topic Started: Nov 9 2010, 01:00 PM (534 Views)
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a bible event will take place in the chuch next to where the PRESTON march will start in defiance of the demo
http://www.lep.co.uk/news/bible_event_defiance_in_face_of_far_right_march_1_2746233
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An excellent event, but they really don't need to coincide with us.

We aren't going to attack any churches.

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Just a suggestion but should not an EDL PR member approach Fr Timothy Lipscomb and provide some reassurance.
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Nov 9 2010, 01:15 PM


We aren't going to attack any churches.


Or anything else for that matter:

Just peacefully protesting against extremists.
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I don't really see how it can be a 'multi-cultural event'. It will more likely be a few regular Church goers. In fact the EDL march will probably be more of a multi-cultural event judging by past demos.

They should read the Koran for four days instead, then they might understand the problem we're facing.
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It is a multi-cultural event, it shows how the community here has come together, how integrated we are and how many dialogues there are.


I wonder how well the Muslims have integrated in that area. Does he expect a large turn out of Muslims to be taking part in those bible readings. Integrated my arse. Who's he trying to kid.
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So we are supposed to believe that Muslims will be reading the New Testament aloud for the whole community to witness?

About as likely as Osama Bin Laden buying me a pint of Guinness and a bacon butty.

If this dhimmi Vicar had any knowledge of the Quran he would know the fate that awaits those who believe that Jesus Christ is their only Lord and Saviour.

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@Ujac.

I note your opening link examples the reaction of "local" Councillor - Salim Desai - who considers us as visitors (outsiders) who know nothing about Preston and have no roots in the community.

Mr Desai obviously has a remarkable inside knowledge of all the family links and past history of those proposing to "visit" Preston in choosing to make such a sweeping statement.

Many will, of course, be "visiting" their home town but that would not fit in well with Mr Desai who appears to want to smear the EDL as alien hordes from over the hill and far away!

Strangely, when it comes to protest about the spread of Islamo-Fascism in England, I note those who are keen to have people settling here from all over the world suddenly start to decry English people visiting English towns as HAVING NO ROOTS!








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Nov 9 2010, 02:12 PM
Strangely, when it comes to protest about the spread of Islamo-Fascism in England, I note those who are keen to have people settling here from all over the world suddenly start to decry English people visiting English towns as HAVING NO ROOTS!
Good point, the Muslims who live in Preston do not descent from there anyway, they descent from another country after all.
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Such dhimmitude on behalf of the Vicar, but no surprises there. Foolish man.

And as to Desai:::

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Preston Coun Salim Desai, who represents the Town Centre ward, said it will be the event inside the church which best represents the city.

He said: “It is two extremes.

“On the one end, they are doing this march and on the other they are doing an all-night bible reading over the weekend. They will have different religions there taking part in readings from the New Testament.

“It is a multi-cultural event, it shows how the community here has come together, how integrated we are and how many dialogues there are.

“These people (EDL) are visitors who do not know what goes on in Preston.

“These people are so isolated and they have got no support or roots in Preston.”


Desai should save his :taqiyya: for those silly and foolish enough to believe it. Desai and hs motley crew in Preston and beyond use the Vicar and his flock as a tool for their ends, but he shouldn't underestimate everyones intelligence - one day they will come unstuck!
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Nov 9 2010, 02:12 PM
@Ujac.

I note your opening link examples the reaction of "local" Councillor - Salim Desai - who considers us as visitors (outsiders) who know nothing about Preston and have no roots in the community.

Mr Desai obviously has a remarkable inside knowledge of all the family links and past history of those proposing to "visit" Preston in choosing to make such a sweeping statement.

Many will, of course, be "visiting" their home town but that would not fit in well with Mr Desai who appears to want to smear the EDL as alien hordes from over the hill and far away!

Strangely, when it comes to protest about the spread of Islamo-Fascism in England, I note those who are keen to have people settling here from all over the world suddenly start to decry English people visiting English towns as HAVING NO ROOTS!








there will be quite a few of us visiting our home town ;)
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How is reading a Bible going to stop Islamisation
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desai

http://www.lep.co.uk/webimage/salim_desai_1_1156444!image/3295799927.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_595/3295799927.jpg
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STEVE INFIDEL
Nov 9 2010, 02:20 PM
How is reading a Bible going to stop Islamisation
Water pistols filled with Holy water would work better, Steve. ;)
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Perhaps someone could approach him and explain what we are about?

He may still want to have his bible reading which is his prerogative after all, but I genuinely think he probably only knows as much as he's read in the press? He may think differenly if explained properly to him?
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No harm in trying to communicate with the Vicar, but bear in mind the network of Muslims in Preston (and beyond) work very hard in using their taqiyya interfaith dialogue to win over the trust of other faiths (they've had unhindered years of practice) so don't be too surprised if there is no reciprocation when reaching out to the Vicar.
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Nov 9 2010, 01:15 PM
An excellent event, but they really don't need to coincide with us.

We aren't going to attack any churches.

same hear i am not going to attack any churches if so i am out

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Desia ??? Desia what exactly ??? little boys ? fcukin nonce cnut you dont speak for me you fcukin div ! And ive probably lived in Preston longer than you ! fcuk OFF!
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This may not be directed at us as this is the year of the bible, the event is over about three days and it could be a case of us clashing with them. I surgest that diplomatic contact be made with them and explain our mission statement to them, now would be a good time to mention our support for the Iraqi Christians and that some of our membership would like to see the Government offer genuine Iraqi Christians ascillum status.
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Nov 9 2010, 02:54 PM
No harm in trying to communicate with the Vicar, but bear in mind the network of Muslims in Preston (and beyond) work very hard in using their taqiyya interfaith dialogue to win over the trust of other faiths (they've had unhindered years of practice)
very true
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It would be a good idea for there to be some contact between the Priest and an EDL representative.
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tobias malachi
Nov 9 2010, 03:20 PM
This may not be directed at us as this is the year of the bible, the event is over about three days and it could be a case of us clashing with them. I surgest that diplomatic contact be made with them and explain our mission statement to them, now would be a good time to mention our support for the Iraqi Christians and that some of our membership would like to see the Government offer genuine Iraqi Christians ascillum status.
good idea, and your right, for all we know it could have already been organised ages ago
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It is mentioned that the event is "multicultural" and that suggests that it was planned to coincide with the EDL.
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i know we all talk about how there isnt one politician with the backbone to stand up for us, but i would of thought there would of bin atleast one christian leader in this country would of done, theyre just as cowardly
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Multi culture/faith events are regular occurances throughout the church calander and usualy planned well in advance, my wife used to be PCC secretary for our local church you would be surprised at the amount of forward planning that goes into events like this trying to line up everyone's diary.
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Nov 9 2010, 05:35 PM
i know we all talk about how there isnt one politician with the backbone to stand up for us, but i would of thought there would of bin atleast one christian leader in this country would of done, theyre just as cowardly
I dont know if its so much about cowardice as about being branded 'racist', which could finish their career..
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Nov 9 2010, 06:52 PM
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Nov 9 2010, 05:35 PM
i know we all talk about how there isnt one politician with the backbone to stand up for us, but i would of thought there would of bin atleast one christian leader in this country would of done, theyre just as cowardly
I dont know if its so much about cowardice as about being branded 'racist', which could finish their career..
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Nov 9 2010, 05:27 PM
It would be a good idea for there to be some contact between the Priest and an EDL representative.
agreed.
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The way I read the article I believe this was planned before the EDL Demo and just happens to clash

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The English Defence League (EDL) is planning to meet opposite Preston Minster, on Church Street, Preston, and walk to the Flag Market on Saturday November 27.


No need for him to worry too much as I'm 90% certain they wont allow a march anyway.
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i just got off the phone with the councilor that said there was no one from preston going. 14minute's i talked to him he started by saying he couldn't comment because he didnt read the article. So i suggested we meet at the town hall and discuss it. He wasn't up to that either. Anyway i asked him how he came about that no1 from preston was in the edl. he said he couldn't( getting mad). Told him my roots are well and truely in preston. I explained to him that we arnt racist and are against sharia law ect he said there was no sharia in britain?????? i named him 3 court's that use it( couldn't think of any more) he SAY'S HE DIDNT KNOW AND COULDN'T COMMENT( again) He asked me what my view's are and i told him i dont want anymore mosque's in britain until there is a church in mecca. He said there are church's in muslim country's. I said just like the 1 in iraq that 50 people got murdered in last week. HE said he going to ring me 2moz to set up a meeting..................................we'll see
oh and il go see the priest tomorrow. Done enough for today lol
oh his details if any1 wants them 07828652532 email cllr.s.desia@preston.guv.uk
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Well done prestonfootpatrol.
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Nov 9 2010, 07:21 PM
The way I read the article I believe this was planned before the EDL Demo and just happens to clash

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The English Defence League (EDL) is planning to meet opposite Preston Minster, on Church Street, Preston, and walk to the Flag Market on Saturday November 27.


No need for him to worry too much as I'm 90% certain they wont allow a march anyway.
I agree.

Its just been on local news the council have called for a ban on the march citing the EDL as 'racist thugs' yaaawn
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Nov 9 2010, 07:27 PM
i just got off the phone with the councilor that said there was no one from preston going. 14minute's i talked to him he started by saying he couldn't comment because he didnt read the article. So i suggested we meet at the town hall and discuss it. He wasn't up to that either. Anyway i asked him how he came about that no1 from preston was in the edl. he said he couldn't( getting mad). Told him my roots are well and truely in preston. I explained to him that we arnt racist and are against sharia law ect he said there was no sharia in britain?????? i named him 3 court's that use it( couldn't think of any more) he SAY'S HE DIDNT KNOW AND COULDN'T COMMENT( again) He asked me what my view's are and i told him i dont want anymore mosque's in britain until there is a church in mecca. He said there are church's in muslim country's. I said just like the 1 in iraq that 50 people got murdered in last week. HE said he going to ring me 2moz to set up a meeting..................................we'll see
oh and il go see the priest tomorrow. Done enough for today lol
oh his details if any1 wants them 07828652532 email cllr.s.desia@preston.guv.uk
wowee! well done you.

Just be careful if you go to a meeting. You may be walking into an ambush. Dont give any personal details, but Im sure I dont need to tell you that ;)
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Nov 9 2010, 07:27 PM
i just got off the phone with the councilor that said there was no one from preston going. 14minute's i talked to him he started by saying he couldn't comment because he didnt read the article. So i suggested we meet at the town hall and discuss it. He wasn't up to that either. Anyway i asked him how he came about that no1 from preston was in the edl. he said he couldn't( getting mad). Told him my roots are well and truely in preston. I explained to him that we arnt racist and are against sharia law ect he said there was no sharia in britain?????? i named him 3 court's that use it( couldn't think of any more) he SAY'S HE DIDNT KNOW AND COULDN'T COMMENT( again) He asked me what my view's are and i told him i dont want anymore mosque's in britain until there is a church in mecca. He said there are church's in muslim country's. I said just like the 1 in iraq that 50 people got murdered in last week. HE said he going to ring me 2moz to set up a meeting..................................we'll see
oh and il go see the priest tomorrow. Done enough for today lol
oh his details if any1 wants them 07828652532 email cllr.s.desia@preston.guv.uk
well done mate ;)
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ps. I dont mean an ambush where the councillor literally jumps on you lol.. I mean one where they pump you for info without realising
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Nov 9 2010, 07:27 PM
i just got off the phone with the councilor that said there was no one from preston going. 14minute's i talked to him he started by saying he couldn't comment because he didnt read the article. So i suggested we meet at the town hall and discuss it. He wasn't up to that either. Anyway i asked him how he came about that no1 from preston was in the edl. he said he couldn't( getting mad). Told him my roots are well and truely in preston. I explained to him that we arnt racist and are against sharia law ect he said there was no sharia in britain?????? i named him 3 court's that use it( couldn't think of any more) he SAY'S HE DIDNT KNOW AND COULDN'T COMMENT( again) He asked me what my view's are and i told him i dont want anymore mosque's in britain until there is a church in mecca. He said there are church's in muslim country's. I said just like the 1 in iraq that 50 people got murdered in last week. HE said he going to ring me 2moz to set up a meeting..................................we'll see
oh and il go see the priest tomorrow. Done enough for today lol
oh his details if any1 wants them 07828652532 email cllr.s.desia@preston.guv.uk
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While we're on the subject of the Preston demo I thought I'd post this:

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=22980
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l think it's a good thing that people organise and protest against us.

l like them acting like children and their pointless arguments.

lt's good they band together in their little multifaith groups.

They do it because we're pointing out the truth and they can't handle it.

They are frightened of the facts.

So like children they name call and accuse us of the worst things they would do themselves.

They might as well cover their ears and shout " Blah blah blah!!"

They will have to listen in the end

because we won't go away.

Well Fcuk Em!!!

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Well said.
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I have finally realised where we went wrong with the CofE, we started putting Christians in charge of it
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Nov 9 2010, 10:03 PM
While we're on the subject of the Preston demo I thought I'd post this:

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=22980
You gotta laugh, they hate the idea of freedom of association and want to ban us from pubs before a demo, we aren't the ones who cause the trouble and the OB know it. As for the UAF getting the market first, I reckon the OB know who will have the greater numbers and who the real troublemakers are. :D
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The OB in Preston seem to be ok, according to the SWP website they said to the SWP that the EDL aren't a problem.
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Lets hope communication with the OB keeps all troublemakers (UAF etc..) away and ensures a peaceful Demo for the good people of Preston.
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Isnt that the point of the EDL...Let them have their service...Perhaps some of us will join the service and then join the march.

What happens if they attack us :'(

Wont happen.

Everyone wants peace in our land.

Lets join them in prayer
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Preston, whilst I can understand why you felt you should contact Desai, the councillor, I feel a little worried for you knowing you have given him your details.

Pls believe me, the man isn't to be trusted. Don't let his divvy looks deceive you.

I worry that your details may be passed on to others now. These aren't ordinary folk.......

Maybe an email using a proxy would have sufficed.

Occassionally when things make us angry, sometimes it is a good idea to step away from the puter for a breather, and then come back when you have calmed down a little.

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Nov 9 2010, 07:27 PM
He said there are church's in muslim country's

Dear me, this one line is so telling!

Perhaps he can provide an honest(?!!!) explantion as to how this has come to the people of Preston, revealing the intolerances, cruelty, barbarity and deceit that was, and continues to be, used in the global jihad. After all, he's in a good position to understand the situation as he's a member of Preston Muslim Society - Management Committee. (link).

He's also added his name to the uaf statement "Preston community unites against racist EDL" (link).

As was said earlier, don't rust this guy be cautious.

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Yeah you are right Christine.

The man is a lying toad. I should imagine that article was winging its way over to his inbox within minutes of it coming off the press, from his cohorts, of which he has many. Pals with a certain journalist too, so nothing gets past this lot. He has his sticky fingers in loads of pies so his pathetic denials are just a bluff. He knows only too well the score. You couldn't put a blade between these people....Don't trust this man.
He is bumchummy with the so-called Councillor, Lavalette from the SWP....and we know Lava's connections only too well. Cageprisoners, Children of the Ghetto, Iengage, Galloway, FOSIS, the bleddy list is endless. So don't fall for the shoite which spews forth from this mans lying mouth.


A post (post 4) I made the other day....which is only a tip of the iceberg!

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Nov 9 2010, 11:17 PM
Preston, whilst I can understand why you felt you should contact Desai, the councillor, I feel a little worried for you knowing you have given him your details.

Pls believe me, the man isn't to be trusted. Don't let his divvy looks deceive you.

I worry that your details may be passed on to others now. These aren't ordinary folk.......

Maybe an email using a proxy would have sufficed.

Occassionally when things make us angry, sometimes it is a good idea to step away from the puter for a breather, and then come back when you have calmed down a little.

Don't worry about it. I know everything about this guy his home address,his home phone number,where his kids go to school and also there are a few Muslims that don't like him. I grew up in deepdale and have a lot Muslim aquaintancies. Some are good friend's. And still will be after the protest. The guy should be more worried about me having his details
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Nov 10 2010, 07:14 AM
Don't worry about it. I know everything about this guy his home address,his home phone number,where his kids go to school and also there are a few Muslims that don't like him. I grew up in deepdale and have a lot Muslim aquaintancies. Some are good friend's. And still will be after the protest. The guy should be more worried about me having his details

Oh, I see what you mean - In case he ends up on your christmas card list? ;)
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