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Rules for having sex with boys; ...if you fancy your stepson or wife's kid brother
Topic Started: Nov 8 2010, 01:47 PM (270 Views)
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From http://www.al-islam.org/laws/marriage1.html

2414. * If a baligh person commits sodomy with a boy, the mother, sister and daughter of the boy become haraam for him. And the same law applies when the person on whom sodomy is committed is an adult male, or when the person committing sodomy is na-baligh. But if one suspects or doubts whether penetration occurred or not, then the said woman would not become haraam.

2415. * If a person marries the mother or sister of a boy, and commits sodomy with the boy after the marriage, as a precaution, they will become haraam for him.

Baligh = sexually mature, having a beard
Haraam = forbidden

In other words, if a Muslim dates a woman and finds her kid brother or son attractive, he must choose one or the other. He can't have both.


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Words just can't describe the DISGUST! :(
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warped c***s :allah:
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No no, theres nothing wrong with that...

its just cultural diversity.

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The Keel
Nov 8 2010, 03:19 PM
No no, theres nothing wrong with that...

its just cultural diversity.

Yes of course, we don't want to damage community cohesion by suggesting there's anything wrong with it. Muslims can be very sensitive about such things. When an Imam was arrested for alledgedly fiddling with boys the 'community' threatened to put hundreds of demonstrators on the streets:

SUPPORTERS of an Islamic minister accused of child sex offences called off an impromptu demonstration after police agreed to meet with them so they could discuss the case.

As reported in The Sentinel yesterday, Mohammed Hanif Khan appeared before North Staffordshire Magistrates' Court on Tuesday charged with five offences.

The 41-year-old imam at Tunstall's Capper Street Mosque is accused of the attempted rape and sexual assault of a 15-year-old boy in Meir last year.

He is further accused of three counts of rape on a boy under the age of 13 last year in Tunstall.

But friends, family and followers, who believe he is innocent, gathered in Tunstall last night and demanded a meeting with police.

They now plan to stage a peaceful protest outside Stoke-on-Trent Crown Court on Monday, when Khan, who gave his address as Bardsley Close, Ellesmere Port, will appear for a preliminary hearing.

His supporters say they are upset he was remanded in custody on Tuesday.

Among them was his cousin Saj Iqbal, aged 28, of Newcastle upon Tyne.

He had organised a march from the mosque to Tunstall police station last night, but called it off when Sergeant Deborah Losh agreed to meet him at the station.

Mr Iqbal said: "There are hundreds of people who believe in him, who were just a phone call away from coming down here last night, but we didn't want that."

Khan's brother Mohammed Idris Iqbal, aged 49, from Sheffield, said: "Everyone will be outside protesting on Monday."


Mohammed Irshad, another of Khan's cousins, aged 37, from Sheffield, said: "This doesn't just affect his reputation, but the whole family.

"He has been all over the world teaching children and we don't think he is a bad person."

Other people gathered at the police station included Khalid Azam, from Middlesbrough.

The 36-year-old said: "I have come to support him, because I believe he is an innocent man.

"His speeches are fantastic. They are all in English so they make more sense to the younger generations."

Tunstall resident and member of the mosque, 35-year-old Mohammed Asif added: "He has helped a lot of people. He has worked for the prison service and been a director for race relations."

Mohammed Alam, aged 37, of Tunstall said: "The sergeant has taken our concerns and is relaying them back to people.

"I am also planning to meet with the chief inspector about this."

Sergeant Losh, who met with four members of the 25-strong group for almost two hours, said: "We are always in conversation with the public and members of the community.

http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/Imam-s-family-custody-protest/article-1823117-detail/article.html

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Oh well then all pedo's can get away wiht it if their family demand to meet with police and march....I realy f***ing HATE the police for things like this.

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"He has been all over the world teaching children and we don't think he is a bad person."

Well yeah teaching him his version of the Koran. What about the poor boys he raped.
Edited by Wigone, Nov 8 2010, 07:46 PM.
They don't like it up 'em.
Don't tell them your name Pike.
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harry
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Google the word "thighing" that will make you sick!
Boltonian and proud of it -Gods country!
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WHY do the police pander to these ppl?

Daft question I suppose
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harry
Nov 8 2010, 09:07 PM
Google the word "thighing" that will make you sick!
There is also a lot of sensational bullsh1t written about muslims and thighing.
“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”

– Houari (Mohamed) Boumedienne, President of Algeria, 1965 – 1978, in a 1974 speech at the UN

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http://thinkexist.com/quotes/ayatollah_khomeini/

They even have rules for what to do after sha@@ing a farm animal. This is not a joke :
“A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.”
From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh"
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did anyone ever watch the documentary about the dancing boys of afghanistan? (bacha bazi)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clvVy1uFeP4

just sick. multi part documentary but makes interesting watching.

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Thanks for clearing this one up for me Bamiyan; just all kinds of wrong isn't it!
Edited by Frankie4Fingers, Nov 9 2010, 01:07 AM.
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Nov 8 2010, 10:38 PM
http://thinkexist.com/quotes/ayatollah_khomeini/

They even have rules for what to do after sha@@ing a farm animal. This is not a joke :
“A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.”
From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh"
Have you or any one else here read this book? No I dont think so, it is quite a hefty book.

Anyway here is the link for those who would like to try

http://www.al-shia.org/html/eng/books/fiqh&usool/islamic-laws/tahrir/index.html

Now about the rules about thighing and sha@@ing a farm animasl, are supposed to come from Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume., but there is a problem, volume four does not exist. There is only two volumes


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“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”

– Houari (Mohamed) Boumedienne, President of Algeria, 1965 – 1978, in a 1974 speech at the UN

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Sick bastards
Let the others come after us - We welcome the chase.
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Nov 8 2010, 07:43 PM
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Nov 8 2010, 03:19 PM
No no, theres nothing wrong with that...

its just cultural diversity.

Yes of course, we don't want to damage community cohesion by suggesting there's anything wrong with it. Muslims can be very sensitive about such things. When an Imam was arrested for alledgedly fiddling with boys the 'community' threatened to put hundreds of demonstrators on the streets:

SUPPORTERS of an Islamic minister accused of child sex offences called off an impromptu demonstration after police agreed to meet with them so they could discuss the case.

As reported in The Sentinel yesterday, Mohammed Hanif Khan appeared before North Staffordshire Magistrates' Court on Tuesday charged with five offences.

The 41-year-old imam at Tunstall's Capper Street Mosque is accused of the attempted rape and sexual assault of a 15-year-old boy in Meir last year.

He is further accused of three counts of rape on a boy under the age of 13 last year in Tunstall.

But friends, family and followers, who believe he is innocent, gathered in Tunstall last night and demanded a meeting with police.

They now plan to stage a peaceful protest outside Stoke-on-Trent Crown Court on Monday, when Khan, who gave his address as Bardsley Close, Ellesmere Port, will appear for a preliminary hearing.

His supporters say they are upset he was remanded in custody on Tuesday.

Among them was his cousin Saj Iqbal, aged 28, of Newcastle upon Tyne.

He had organised a march from the mosque to Tunstall police station last night, but called it off when Sergeant Deborah Losh agreed to meet him at the station.

Mr Iqbal said: "There are hundreds of people who believe in him, who were just a phone call away from coming down here last night, but we didn't want that."

Khan's brother Mohammed Idris Iqbal, aged 49, from Sheffield, said: "Everyone will be outside protesting on Monday."


Mohammed Irshad, another of Khan's cousins, aged 37, from Sheffield, said: "This doesn't just affect his reputation, but the whole family.

"He has been all over the world teaching children and we don't think he is a bad person."

Other people gathered at the police station included Khalid Azam, from Middlesbrough.

The 36-year-old said: "I have come to support him, because I believe he is an innocent man.

"His speeches are fantastic. They are all in English so they make more sense to the younger generations."

Tunstall resident and member of the mosque, 35-year-old Mohammed Asif added: "He has helped a lot of people. He has worked for the prison service and been a director for race relations."

Mohammed Alam, aged 37, of Tunstall said: "The sergeant has taken our concerns and is relaying them back to people.

"I am also planning to meet with the chief inspector about this."

Sergeant Losh, who met with four members of the 25-strong group for almost two hours, said: "We are always in conversation with the public and members of the community.

http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/Imam-s-family-custody-protest/article-1823117-detail/article.html

Just in case you missed it....

I was being sarcastic ;) ;)
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just read all this and am totally gobsmacked. How can they have actual written rules on what to do and whats right and wrong with boys, when they are supposedly totally against homosexuality anyway??

Hypocrasy doesnt even begin to describe it. Its vile.
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Nov 9 2010, 11:45 PM
just read all this and am totally gobsmacked. How can they have actual written rules on what to do and whats right and wrong with boys, when they are supposedly totally against homosexuality anyway??

Hypocrasy doesnt even begin to describe it. Its vile.
It isn't classed as homosexuality when an adult man does it with a beardless boy, because in Islam beardless boys (bacha bereesh) are regarded as female, and if particularly pretty are valued as status symbols to be displayed (women being kept under burkhas)

"Western forces fighting in southern Afghanistan had a problem. Too often, soldiers on patrol passed an older man walking hand-in-hand with a pretty young boy. Their behavior suggested he was not the boy's father. Then, British soldiers found that young Afghan men were actually trying to "touch and fondle them," military investigator AnnaMaria Cardinalli told me. "The soldiers didn't understand."

All of this was so disconcerting that the Defense Department hired Cardinalli, a social scientist, to examine this mystery. Her report, "Pashtun Sexuality," startled not even one Afghan. But Western forces were shocked - and repulsed.

For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.

"Having a boy has become a custom for us," Enayatullah, a 42-year-old in Baghlan province, told a Reuters reporter. "Whoever wants to show off should have a boy."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/28/INF21F2Q9H.DTL

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Nov 9 2010, 11:57 PM
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Nov 9 2010, 11:45 PM
just read all this and am totally gobsmacked. How can they have actual written rules on what to do and whats right and wrong with boys, when they are supposedly totally against homosexuality anyway??

Hypocrasy doesnt even begin to describe it. Its vile.
It isn't classed as homosexuality when an adult man does it with a beardless boy, because in Islam beardless boys (bacha bereesh) are regarded as female, and if particularly pretty are valued as status symbols to be displayed (women being kept under burkhas)

"Western forces fighting in southern Afghanistan had a problem. Too often, soldiers on patrol passed an older man walking hand-in-hand with a pretty young boy. Their behavior suggested he was not the boy's father. Then, British soldiers found that young Afghan men were actually trying to "touch and fondle them," military investigator AnnaMaria Cardinalli told me. "The soldiers didn't understand."

All of this was so disconcerting that the Defense Department hired Cardinalli, a social scientist, to examine this mystery. Her report, "Pashtun Sexuality," startled not even one Afghan. But Western forces were shocked - and repulsed.

For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.

"Having a boy has become a custom for us," Enayatullah, a 42-year-old in Baghlan province, told a Reuters reporter. "Whoever wants to show off should have a boy."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/28/INF21F2Q9H.DTL

blimey oreilly it beggars belief.

Thanks for explaining that. The more you learn about this religion/these people the worse it gets
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again i point you to the youtube documentary i saw on bbc4 i think it was bacha bazi - or the dancing boys of afgahnistan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clvVy1uFeP4

pretty much shows and explains everything english angel refers too.
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