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Abu Hamza Demo; Campaign to deport Abu Hamza
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Nov 7 2010, 02:56 PM
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Nov 7 2010, 02:41 PM
They may not paint it as such, but it is a very embarrassing issue for the British government, not just over preachers of hate in general but Hamza, who had MI5 handlers
do you mean covertly tailing him or generaly baby sitting him lol
No they were meeting with him regularly, he was under the impression (rightly as it turned out) that as long as there were no attacks on British soil he could do what he wanted. They thought they were handling him, he was taking the raving piss with them. I think it actually stalled the police investigation as he was linked to MI5. It's actually quite a fascinating story when you look into it, how he became so involved, what extent he became involved to, how he used British liberalism against the British etc The stupid mistakes made by the establishment will have repercussions which will last for generations, regardless of what happens to Hamza now
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Nov 7 2010, 03:02 PM
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Nov 7 2010, 02:37 PM
Im still up for a demo on this specific issue whether it be Hamza or hate preachers in general. They really do take the biscuit
If nothing else naming hate preachers at demos may be the push that is needed to convince the general public that young muslims are being radicalised on a day to day basis.
yeah I agree and I think it will help the public see what we stand for too :)
I've messages the powers that be, so I'll let you all know when I hear anything
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Hopefully one day in the not too distant future we will see his extended family deported. This is what needs to be done if we are to stand any chance. That russian bird who was spying in USA, was very quickly stripped of her UK passport, so it shows that it can be done.

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Nov 7 2010, 03:27 PM
Hopefully one day in the not too distant future we will see his extended family deported. This is what needs to be done if we are to stand any chance. That russian bird who was spying in USA, was very quickly stripped of her UK passport, so it shows that it can be done.

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But she also had Russian citizenship mate, so wasn't stateless if British citizenship was taken off her
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Am I right in saying that accidents CAN happen in prison, especially to those who might be disabled?
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Nov 7 2010, 03:35 PM
Am I right in saying that accidents CAN happen in prison, especially to those who might be disabled?
I have always wondered who cuts his toenails
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Am I right in saying that accidents CAN happen in prison, especially to those who might be disabled?
I have always wondered who cuts his toenails
A very charming gent called Queenie
“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”

– Houari (Mohamed) Boumedienne, President of Algeria, 1965 – 1978, in a 1974 speech at the UN

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Am I right in saying that accidents CAN happen in prison, especially to those who might be disabled?
I have always wondered who cuts his toenails
A very charming gent called Queenie
Let´s hope Queenie is hung like a f**king donkey and is riddled with STD´s and scabs. :)
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Nov 7 2010, 03:00 PM
Bishop Rock. It lies at the most south-westerly part of the United Kingdom and Bishop Rock is one most remote locations imaginable.. It is one of 1040 islands around Britain and only has a lighthouse on it. In 1861, the British government set out the parameters for classifying an island. It was decided that if it was inhabited, the size was immaterial. However, if it was uninhabited, it had to be "the summer's pasturage of at least one sheep" - which is about two acres."

It even has a minaret.

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A very charming gent called Queenie
Let´s hope Queenie is hung like a f**king donkey and is riddled with STD´s and scabs. :)
I kid you not, there was am article about Hooks aid, and how hook was making fuss because Queenie was not only black but gay
“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”

– Houari (Mohamed) Boumedienne, President of Algeria, 1965 – 1978, in a 1974 speech at the UN

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You have to remember two of the 7/7 bombers, Robin Reid and god knows how many more we dont know about were all radicalised by Abu Hamza. In my opinion Labour have blood on their hands - they did nothing to stop him - the road outside Finsbury Park Mosque was closed every Friday to accomodate his preaching. And not just him - they let in Al-Awlaki who toured the country preaching - he's now the worlds most wanted after the cartridge bombs. Makes me sick that no one has brought Blair etc to account for all this.

I think a demo against Choudary or Izzadeen would be much more useful. At least Hamza is in jail - these two are taking the p*ss saying and doing as they like.

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Choudary 's a right slimey cnut
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Nov 7 2010, 03:00 PM
Bishop Rock. It lies at the most south-westerly part of the United Kingdom and Bishop Rock is one most remote locations imaginable.. It is one of 1040 islands around Britain and only has a lighthouse on it. In 1861, the British government set out the parameters for classifying an island. It was decided that if it was inhabited, the size was immaterial. However, if it was uninhabited, it had to be "the summer's pasturage of at least one sheep" - which is about two acres."

It even has a minaret.

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lol @ it even has a minaret!

he could use a megaphone and preach to who he liked from there and not bother a soul ;)
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Nov 7 2010, 03:35 PM
Am I right in saying that accidents CAN happen in prison, especially to those who might be disabled?
whos to say he might trip up and fall onto his hook? <fingers crossed> :)
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Let's get the petition started and when we have enough signatures we can arrange a demo but let us get it started
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Nov 7 2010, 07:31 PM
Let's get the petition started and when we have enough signatures we can arrange a demo but let us get it started
A petition to call for what?
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Nov 7 2010, 07:31 PM
Let's get the petition started and when we have enough signatures we can arrange a demo but let us get it started
we cant get abu hamza deported.any petition would just be thrown out.it looks like we're just going to have to wait till he can go to america.
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Nov 7 2010, 07:31 PM
Let's get the petition started and when we have enough signatures we can arrange a demo but let us get it started
ok Tobias, I think it does need some action.

I've messaged and just waiting for a response re a demo, but a petitions a good start. I dont know how to set up a petition though, and I think it should be a general one, i.e. for ejecting ALL extremist preachers from the country
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Nov 7 2010, 07:36 PM
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Nov 7 2010, 07:31 PM
Let's get the petition started and when we have enough signatures we can arrange a demo but let us get it started
ok Tobias, I think it does need some action.

I've messaged and just waiting for a response re a demo, but a petitions a good start. I dont know how to set up a petition though
I agree, petition is a good start :)
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Nov 7 2010, 07:35 PM
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Nov 7 2010, 07:31 PM
Let's get the petition started and when we have enough signatures we can arrange a demo but let us get it started
we cant get abu hamza deported.any petition would just be thrown out.it looks like we're just going to have to wait till he can go to america.
I really dont think we should focus on whether we can actually get him deported, I think its the principle involved which is just as important. Its for the public to see what we are about as much as anything, and we will be having demo's anyway, regardless of anything, so giving one a purpose, whether it be about Hamza or any other hate preacher serves a usefull purpose.

I chose him because his name is well known and in those two words, the public will know what we are working against. They may not recognise anyone elses name as not everyone is as politically aware as those on this and other forums are.

If it was a bad suggestion, fair enough. It was after all, only an idea
Edited by English Angel, Nov 7 2010, 07:44 PM.
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There are only two high profile recognised 'preachers of radical Islam', Andy Choudary, born in Welling and Trevor Brooks born in Hackney, next level down are people like Sayful Islam, born in Luton etc, what is the petition going to suggest?
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what would we be sayng/asking for in the protest?
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Nov 7 2010, 07:41 PM
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Nov 7 2010, 07:35 PM
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Nov 7 2010, 07:31 PM
Let's get the petition started and when we have enough signatures we can arrange a demo but let us get it started
we cant get abu hamza deported.any petition would just be thrown out.it looks like we're just going to have to wait till he can go to america.
I really dont think we should focus on whether we can actually get him deported, I think its the principle involved which is just as important. Its for the public to see what we are about as much as anything, and we will be having demo's anyway, regardless of anything, so giving one a purpose, whether it be about Hamza or any other hate preacher serves a usefull purpose.

I chose him because his name is well known and in those two words, the public will know what we are working against. They may not recognise anyone elses name as not everyone is as politically aware as those on this and other forums are.

If it was a bad suggestion, fair enough. It was after all, only an idea
i dont think it was a bad idea at all, at the start of the day i was agreeing but after learning he cant be deported im trying to think else where.
Edited by infidel 9755, Nov 7 2010, 07:47 PM.
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WE SHUD REVOLT IN OUR HORROR THIS EVIL CREATURE HAS ONCE AGAIN SHOWN HOW EASY IT IS TO PREACH HATE ORGANISE TERRORRIST ACTIVITIES AND END UP GETTING A FAT PAYOUT FROM THE TAX PAYER. ANY IMMIGRANT WHO COMMITS A CRIME SHOULD BE INSTANTLY DEPORTED ALONG WITH ANY FAMILY MEMBERS INNOCENT OR NOT. HUMAN RIGHTS BOLLOCKS WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE IN JURIDSTRICTION ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN.. DEMO AND PETTITION.
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Nov 7 2010, 07:52 PM
ANY IMMIGRANT WHO COMMITS A CRIME SHOULD BE INSTANTLY DEPORTED
agreed.
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I have to say im so shocked and appauled at the government allowing extremist preachers in to this country!!! how can they allow this?? why? why? oh why....?!!!! every day i get angrier at what is happening, the governments are so weak its making me sick with disgust! (just had to vent as when i saw that disgusting preacher on the news it made my stomach churn!)
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Nov 7 2010, 07:45 PM
what would we be sayng/asking for in the protest?
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I really dont think we should focus on whether we can actually get him deported, I think its the principle involved which is just as important. Its for the public to see what we are about as much as anything, and we will be having demo's anyway, regardless of anything, so giving one a purpose, whether it be about Hamza or any other hate preacher serves a usefull purpose.

I chose him because his name is well known and in those two words, the public will know what we are working against. They may not recognise anyone elses name as not everyone is as politically aware as those on this and other forums are.

If it was a bad suggestion, fair enough. It was after all, only an idea
i dont think it was a bad idea at all, at the start of the day i was agreeing but after learning he cant be deported im trying to think else where.
yeah I know, and thanks. Its nothing to do with what you've said you were my first supporter!

But itt was only an idea, and cold waters been poured on it.
I'll leave the ideas to someone else I think, and stick to what I know best...commenting on other peoples posts ;)
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Nov 7 2010, 07:54 PM
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ANY IMMIGRANT WHO COMMITS A CRIME SHOULD BE INSTANTLY DEPORTED
agreed.
i TOTALLY agree!! the government should get their sh*t together, but i see they have nothing but fear!!! Wake up government! this is OUR country not theirs!!!
@ English Angel... what you mentioned was a great idea, im so upset about this too. If i was rich id be smashing my TV every day from anger after seeing extremist preachers, illegal immigrants etc etc RUINING our country... after years of being away from the UK and being back now, i honestly cannot accept what is happening now....
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Nov 7 2010, 07:56 PM
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what would we be sayng/asking for in the protest?
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i dont think it was a bad idea at all, at the start of the day i was agreeing but after learning he cant be deported im trying to think else where.
yeah I know, and thanks. Its nothing to do with what you've said you were my first supporter!

But itt was only an idea, and cold waters been poured on it.
I'll leave the ideas to someone else I think, and stick to what I know best...commenting on other peoples posts ;)
what about choudary? hes anouther arse hole.

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The damage has been done as far as immigrant extremist preachers are concerned, the ones they did allow in, Bakri-Mohammed, Hamza, Qatada, al-Fasial were whoppers and were allowed to operate for so long that their replacements are now British born Muslims
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what would we be sayng/asking for in the protest?

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yeah I know, and thanks. Its nothing to do with what you've said you were my first supporter!

But itt was only an idea, and cold waters been poured on it.
I'll leave the ideas to someone else I think, and stick to what I know best...commenting on other peoples posts ;)
what about choudary? hes anouther arse hole.

Born in Welling
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Nov 7 2010, 07:55 PM
I have to say im so shocked and appauled at the government allowing extremist preachers in to this country!!! how can they allow this?? why? why? oh why....?!!!! every day i get angrier at what is happening, the governments are so weak its making me sick with disgust! (just had to vent as when i saw that disgusting preacher on the news it made my stomach churn!)
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I know exactly what you mean Miss M.

Sometimes I sit in disbelief at what theyre actually sitting there saying, and wondering how on earth theyre getting away with it.

They say anything they like about us in one breath, and next minute hold out their hand to the council for grants or DSS for benefits, all of which is money provided by the very people theyre slagging off!! and we're just supposed to sit and take it. The People are being treated like absolute idioits, but not for much longer..
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that article in the people to today is a good victory against hate preachers if its enforced.
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what would we be sayng/asking for in the protest?

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yeah I know, and thanks. Its nothing to do with what you've said you were my first supporter!

But itt was only an idea, and cold waters been poured on it.
I'll leave the ideas to someone else I think, and stick to what I know best...commenting on other peoples posts ;)
what about choudary? hes anouther arse hole.

very true!
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The damage has been done as far as immigrant extremist preachers are concerned, the ones they did allow in, Bakri-Mohammed, Hamza, Qatada, al-Fasial were whoppers and were allowed to operate for so long that their replacements are now British born Muslims
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what about choudary? hes anouther arse hole.

Born in Welling
:D lol
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The fact he was allowed to get aawy with what he did in the first place is a joke, the fact he is allowed to keep his British (EU) Passport is a joke, the fact he is treated as somebody with Human Rights is a joke, the fact we as taxpayers look after his ba**ard family is a joke.

The only thing that isn´t funny is that all of the above is true.
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The damage has been done as far as immigrant extremist preachers are concerned, the ones they did allow in, Bakri-Mohammed, Hamza, Qatada, al-Fasial were whoppers and were allowed to operate for so long that their replacements are now British born Muslims
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I know it's soul destroying when you look into it mate, but the damage has been done as far as preachers of hate are concerned. And anyway anyone who really wants to hear radical Islamic rhetoric can use the Internet. Look what happened to Ch4 and Hardcash productions when they exposed the teachings being given in Birmingham mosques, West Midlands Police investigated them and when they found they couldn't they reported them to OFCOM, completely out of their remit. The real enemy are the people who allow these radicals to operate, and they're not Asian, not Muslim, they're white liberal socialists who really run this country. People like Hamza will only take the piss for as long as you allow them to, and our laws do.
Another point is, majority Muslim countries in the middle east don't stand for these extremists, Bakri-Mohammed can never return to his country of birth Syria because he is wanted there for causing trouble, same as Hamza in his country of birth Egypt, they don't stand for them, but the liberals in our country thought we could accomodate them
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Let's get the petition started and when we have enough signatures we can arrange a demo but let us get it started
ok Tobias, I think it does need some action.

I've messaged and just waiting for a response re a demo, but a petitions a good start. I dont know how to set up a petition though, and I think it should be a general one, i.e. for ejecting ALL extremist preachers from the country
^^^ agree with that..Protest should be against all hate preachers..
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VillaLoyal has it spot on - its our laws that allow these people to operate. The damage was done under Labour when every extremist was welcomed with open arms. Hamza cant be deported - we should be petitioning the government to stop the future Hamza's from becoming reality. Pressuring them to close extremist mosques, cut off funding to charities that promote terrorism, cut the benefits of the hate preachers - all this is possible if the government have the will to do it. With Hamza in afraid the damage is done, we're too late - lets concentrate on the future.
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Should be started with maybe a 24hr vigal outside parliment demanding he be deported and also the cash he has one be revoked and at the same time start collecting sigs on a petition.
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Take a detail of six soldiers and sh00t him behind the chemical shed.

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:england: HE HAS ENGINEERED the whole thing knowing fine well what would happen and we would be forced to do what we have done...
Give him British citizenship...
Somewhere within the Government Legal Department someones head should Roll for this Fiasco... :tiedup:
But you know as well as i do that will never Happen !!!!!!...

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