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| Jon Snow Refuses To Wear Poppy; 'POPPY FASCISM ROW' | |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 12:19 PM Post #1 |
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Richard James - 3rd November, 2010 Channel 4 News presenter Jon Snow in new poppy fascism row Jon Snow, the veteran Channel 4 news presenter, has hit out as what he describes as 'poppy fascism' after being criticised by a viewer for not wearing the symbolic emblem in the lead up to Remembrance Sunday. Jon Snow has not been wearing a poppy will covering the US mid-term elections The exchange happened on the 63-year-old's official blog and Twitter feed where Snow told the viewer to 'get on yer bike' and declared 'Hitler lost the war'. The row began after a viewer, calling themselves Stan, claimed the news presenter was 'dishonouring' the dead by continuing with his stance of not wearing a poppy on TV. However, the comment clearly angered Snow who responded saying it was exactly the type of 'poppy fascism, or intolerance' he had protested about in the past. Snow has continually claimed he will not wear a poppy on TV on any day other than Remembrance Sunday itself. Stan wrote on the presenter's blog this week: 'Jon, when you ride your bike, do you ever think of the hundreds of thousands of British troops who gave their lives in World War II to keep our great country free. ‘You alone dishonour them by not wearing a poppy. You look what you are on your bike.’ Responding to the criticism, Snow said: 'Stan they died that we might be free to wear a Poppy whenever we wish. i (sic) wish to wear mine on Remembrance Sunday. ‘When you wish to wear yours is your business. Compelling people to wear poppies because YOU think they OUGHT to is precisely the Poppy fascism, or intolerance, that I have complained of in the past. .'On yer bike Stan, with or without a poppy, it’s all your own free choice..Hitler lost the war!' The 63-year-old has said he will not wear any 'symbols' while on air and Channel 4 has stood by his stance, claiming it would not impose any requirements to do so, despite the complaints from viewers. . Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/846022-channel-4-news-presenter-jon-snow-in-new-poppy-fascism-row?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#ixzz14JNlG06k |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 12:27 PM Post #2 |
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another disrespectful c**t |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 12:33 PM Post #3 |
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I think that no one should HAVE to wear the poppy... However it is hugely disrespectful for a public figure to stick two fingers up at the for fathers who gave him the freedom to be a public figure. Realistically he would not be there now if it were not for the people who died. Personally I find it disrespectful to our countries fallen, freedoms but maintain he can think and say what he likes. We are free after all. Free to be offended. Its just lucky for him we will not be rioting in the streets calling for his public beheading... |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 12:43 PM Post #4 |
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He is making a statement of some kind, don´t know what however, but a statement all the same. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the BBC presenters and guests seem to be really poppied up this year? |
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| brianoflondon | Nov 4 2010, 12:46 PM Post #5 |
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Nobody should have to wear it, but he should be seen for what he is: a disrespectful cnut who spits on the grave of those dead and wounded to protect HIS freedom to be a cnut. |
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Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009. Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century. They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back. | |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 01:22 PM Post #6 |
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Saw an few Iraq/Iranians wearing poppys yesterday. |
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| JackRipper | Nov 4 2010, 01:26 PM Post #7 |
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Some people seem to be making an unnecessarily big deal out of this. He already said he'll be wearing one on Remembrance Sunday, so at least he's bought one and is not opposed to the concept. At least the bloke's not wearing a white poppy - a movement that seems to be increasing in popularity amongst certain elements: http://www.whitepoppy.org.uk/ I will wear a red poppy next week, all week. Not before then and not after then. |
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| Eeedl | Nov 4 2010, 01:33 PM Post #8 |
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We went to war to preserve peoples rights to choose what they want.I wear a poppy if someone else does not then that's their choice. |
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| The Swine | Nov 4 2010, 01:42 PM Post #9 |
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I have never worn a poppy but always observe the two minutes silence when I think of my late grandfather who served with the 63rd Royal Naval Division at Gallipoli and on the Somme.Its just a personal choice and is not a big deal but to me observing the silence is far more important than wearing a poppy. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 01:44 PM Post #10 |
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has anyone elses forum just flipped the other way round? |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 01:49 PM Post #11 |
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Yep! WTF? |
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| JackRipper | Nov 4 2010, 01:49 PM Post #12 |
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Have we been sniffing some poppies then ? |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 01:50 PM Post #13 |
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definately - the avatars have took a swing to the right
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 01:50 PM Post #14 |
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its back now...wondered what was going on for a min. |
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| meerkat | Nov 4 2010, 01:53 PM Post #15 |
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snow describes himself as a "pinko liberal" so wtf do you expect ?? |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 01:55 PM Post #16 |
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I do believe in people's right to choose whether they wear a poppy or not, under I understand the fascism comment he is making. If any of you work in large companies, you will usually have people coming around collecting for Red Nose day or that Pudsey Bear day and the people collecting are usually fascists, as if you don't contribute you will usually be outed and ostracised. And if that was the real point he was making then I'd agree with him. But, I don't think it is, here is a well known quote about Jon Snow. "Snow, 62, a self-confessed “pious, pinko‑liberal” who makes a point of riding to work on his bicycle". It's all about context. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 02:01 PM Post #17 |
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i never gave fook all to red nose day meself. it made me laugh that time when anxiety86 said he had that bloke living near him that made a fortune collecting for red nose day and kept it all... id be ashamed not to give to the poppy appeal. im expecting the annual influx of smackheads nicking the collection boxes anytime now....unfortunately its not news anymore. |
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| 1882 | Nov 4 2010, 03:38 PM Post #18 |
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I dont wear mine every day due to change of clothes /suits for work I sometimes forget to put it on ! (Yeah I know its a lame excusse) but on Sunday I will pull on my regimental blazer attache my medals place on my RGJ berret then go to the center of London , meet up with my old army mates before marching past the Cenotaph and observing the minutes silence ! Jon Snow is a twat and an attention seeker ! |
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| tobias malachi | Nov 4 2010, 05:25 PM Post #19 |
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to be honest if some one gives me some stick I just dig my heels in and do the opposit. I know a couple of people that dont ware the poppy but they always make a donation |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 06:01 PM Post #20 |
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Don't forget the animals who died in the war too. The RSPCA sell lilac poppies for them. Animals in war. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 07:20 PM Post #21 |
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he never has, and never will. his choice. disrespectfull never the less. barely seen anybody wearing them so far this year. |
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| RDG | Nov 4 2010, 07:46 PM Post #22 |
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What REALLY pi**es me off is that I thought he was older than me, but I beat him by 9 effing years I will ware two poppies this year to dispite that idiot who has just got out of nick and telling all not to wear them. Now that IS disrespect. Snow does as he wants imo, but feel that some people like to be different. Just wish he was older!!!!
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| U.B.A. | Nov 4 2010, 08:19 PM Post #23 |
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He was doing this a few years ago the cnut...I swear if I see someone with a white poppy I"ll tear it from them. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 08:27 PM Post #24 |
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yea white ones are virtually 'im a terrorist supporter' poppy. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 08:32 PM Post #25 |
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that old twat that got knocked over at bolton lays a white poppy wreath every year |
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| aluman | Nov 4 2010, 09:26 PM Post #26 |
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well said |
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| brianoflondon | Nov 4 2010, 10:04 PM Post #27 |
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I'll tell you a little bit about what happens on the memorial day for fallen soldiers in Israel, I'm not doing this for any particular reason but just so you know and I felt like typing this for once. Firstly it's not 2 minutes, it's 24 hours. The main TV channel switches to showing 24 hours of documentaries about fallen soldiers and their families. These are a mix of historical and (unfortunately) recently bereaved families. I can't imagine who has the horrific job of working on these programs for a year but each year they have new ones. The memorial day starts with the sounding of the country wide air raid siren (yes, Israel has this and it works) for a minute. That's in the evening at sun down. As is usual with the Jewish calendar, a night actually starts at sun down and a day ends at sundown. A whole day (as we say it in English) consists of a day and a night. Anyway the next "day" memorial services are held all over the country in military cemeteries. The one I've attended the last couple of years is where my brother in law's buddy is buried. He was killed in Lebanon in 2006 while sitting next to my brother in law. Unfortunately he was hit by an Israeli tank shell which was targeting a Hezbollah group that had fired an anti-tank weapon at the infantry unit. The tank commander who fired the fatal round also attends this memorial. At 11 there is another sounding of the air raid siren for 2 mins. The traffic all over the country will stop, people will freeze. Cars will park up on motorways and people will get out and stand next to them for 2 minutes. There is a memorial day for the Holocaust but I can tell you that it just doesn't feel as critical as the memorial day for soldiers (and also victims of terrorist attacks). It's hard to explain this outside Israel. Every family in Israel has lost someone in one of the wars or to terrorists, everybody who went through school here has lost a school mate. It's just a fact that nobody forgets and everybody knows that if our enemies are not defeated in battle, they will not just glare at us in Youtube videos from 3000 miles away, they'll be walking into the homes of our families and killing them. But the strangest thing by far about Israel's Memorial day (called Yom Hazikaron) is that when it ends at sunset, the celebration for Israel's Independence day begins immediately with parties, fireworks, fly pasts, parades and BBQ's. The flip from unbelievably sad to unbelievably happy just can't be explained. I hope the EDL can help the UK give back this feeling to the people of Britain. Do you value your freedom? Do you think that it came for free? Did it not come At such a great cost And how many lives Do you think were lost? |
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| English Angel | Nov 4 2010, 10:13 PM Post #28 |
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I thought the sound just overlayed a still picture, I didnt realise all the cars has stopped and there was a man just standing by his car, still, until the end of the siren where he gets in his car and drives off and the other cars all start moving. Wow! |
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| RDG | Nov 4 2010, 10:21 PM Post #29 |
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At one time that used to happen in the UK. 2 Mins silence 11 11 11. Everyone would stop and pay their respects. Sadly no more. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 10:23 PM Post #30 |
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Whatever jon snow's view, its up to him whether or not he wears a poppy. |
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| brianoflondon | Nov 4 2010, 10:26 PM Post #31 |
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I do remember at school in the UK where we had boards of those killed in the two world wars and the day was marked properly. That should be revived: those who fail to observe it should be noted and marked for what they are. Ungrateful and undeserving of the protection and safety afforded them by the state. |
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Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009. Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century. They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back. | |
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| RDG | Nov 4 2010, 10:37 PM Post #32 |
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I will be home 9th to 16th and will be able to pay proper respects. First time in two years. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 10:38 PM Post #33 |
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Fuck em. I'm not wearing no poppy for some Taliban c*nt. |
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| brianoflondon | Nov 4 2010, 10:50 PM Post #34 |
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Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009. Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century. They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back. | |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 11:36 PM Post #35 |
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scum.. |
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| Neverforget | Nov 5 2010, 12:07 AM Post #36 |
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You got a pic of poppy fields in afghanistan? To be fair even though I hate the liberal Jon Snow, its up to him if he wears it or not. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 5 2010, 12:26 AM Post #37 |
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I bought a poppy today for the soliders who gave there lifes for our future BUT look out our country now as they died for nothing because of our scum MP's etc. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 5 2010, 12:46 AM Post #38 |
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I used to get really pissed off when working in a huge office environment and barely anyone acknowledged the 2 mins silence, I noticed it happened more in multicultural environments. I find it disrespectful and always will, but thats just me. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 5 2010, 07:43 PM Post #39 |
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Not quite Afghanistan, ya silly sod. http://www.eastsussex.gov.uk/leisureandtourism/pictures/poppies.htm |
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| Star | Nov 6 2010, 03:35 PM Post #40 |
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Point is he is on TV, he isn't just some bloke who works in an office and therefore represents the people of Britain, he should wear a poppy, they should all be made to wear one by their employers as a mark of respect to the armed forces and those who have lost their lives- regardless of their personal views, when you go on TV your personal views should be put aside. He is publicly disrespecting the cause by not wearing a poppy. |
| THEY JOINED FOR MANY REASONS, TO MARCH, TO SAIL, TO FLY. THEY WENT WHERE THEY WERE POSTED, BUT NOBODY JOINS TO DIE. THEIR LEADERS TALK ON TV, WHAT ELSE COULD WE HAVE DONE? BUT THOSE LEADERS LOST NO DAUGHTERS, AND NONE HAS LOST A SON. SO HERE'S TO ALL OUR SOLDIERS WHEREVER THEY MAY BE...AND HERES TO ALL THEIR FAMILIES, I RAISE A GLASS TO THEE...WEAR YOUR POPPY WITH PRIDE. | |
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| desade | Nov 7 2010, 02:32 AM Post #41 |
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One suspects that he fears that a poppy would clash with his tasteful choice of ties. |
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| lacoste | Nov 7 2010, 09:00 AM Post #42 |
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just another leftie fanny, fcuk him. shame thats the type of twat we always get presented with on telly |
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