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| The taxi driver who doubled as a bounty hunter; Exactly what I said months ago, good to see someone has confirmed it | |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 04:58 AM Post #1 |
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I am so pleased to have found this article. I missed it when it first come out. I noticed a few moments ago on the Atlas Shrugs website a reference made to this article, so I found it on the Guardian website. I usually steer clear of the Guardian like the plague, but for once I am very pleased to see they have harnessed the absolute unbiased truth in this article - the author needs a huge pat on the back. Just one thing though, it mentions taxi drivers being paid to do the bountying, but payment doesn't always enter into the equation for some communities within this type of taxi bounty type of network - and it does happen well outside of Yorkshire at the other end of the country, I know that. It is very disheartening and worrying to read that there are going to be legal aid cutbacks, as that will not help those who need to help others escape this type of persecution we in the UK so often overlook. The people running the orgs mentioned in this article are run by genuine and caring folk and need all the help they can get. Well done to Bedshah for writing this very truthful article. Kudos. Although, using the word Conservative to describe the medieval and extreme actions of this sect, is sugarcoating the truth and shows a form of weakness! (the pink bits in the article are the links) The taxi driver who doubled as a bounty hunter For £5,000 he tracked down young women fleeing a forced marriage and brought them back to their families ○ Nadeem Badshah ○ guardian.co.uk, Sunday 29 August 2010 20.59 BST Jack and Zena Briggs . . . her family hired a bounty hunter to find them. Photograph: Garry Weaser for the Guardian On the face of it, Zakir was simply a veteran taxi driver and a popular member of the community in Bradford. Few customers would have realised that behind his bubbly exterior he provided another, much more sinister service. For around £5,000, Zakir would track down women and girls who had run away from home to escape a forced marriage. A bounty hunter, Zakir's mission was to bring them back to their families. While most locals in the tightly knit south Asian community thought Zakir was merely picking up and dropping off passengers each day, his work provided perfect cover to exploit his contacts with fellow drivers and shopkeepers to hunt down runaway teenagers. According to Zakir, some bounty hunters would also befriend officials in housing departments and in the Department for Work and Pensions to get National Insurance numbers – a strategy confirmed by campaigners against forced marriages. Zakir's job was never to harm his targets, but to return them home to face their "destiny" of being made to marry someone their parents had chosen. Despite the fact that runaways can be beaten for having escaped, he sides with the families on the issue. The softly spoken driver, speaking to G2 on the condition his real name was not used, insisted: "I did it as a favour to the families, as I knew most of them. It wasn't about the money. It was about izzat [honour]. I saw the effect it had on them when their daughter ran away. The worry and the shame from the community talking about them. I was part of the 'taxi driver network', so we shared information about who we picked up and where they got dropped off. "I didn't harm any of the girls: among aapnes [ the Asian community; literally 'ours'] discipline is up to their families. Only a couple of occasions I had to speak forcefully to them because they wouldn't come home. But it is obviously not a career, so I stopped. I got tired of chasing people around." Zakir prowled the streets of Bradford, Huddersfield, Leeds and Sheffield. According to women's groups, bounty hunters are more common in places such as Yorkshire and Lancashire because the large south Asian populations are more closely knit, entrenched in conservative values, and there is a better chance of finding women who disappear in the north than in London. The community grapevine is a powerful tool in those areas; word spreads quickly about a person's whereabouts and welfare. And while this can nurture a closer community and ensure everyone looks out for one another, it can also be used to patrol the behaviour of those who do not conform to the unwritten rules –meaning young women may be ostracised by disapproving elders for wearing "western" clothes or speaking to a boy. Some families are so fearful of this kind of gossip they agree a verbal contract with a bounty hunter where the reward can be as much as £10,000. Others even hire female bounty hunters to pose as domestic violence victims to enter refuges and find their target. One woman who knows what it feels like to be hunted down is Jaspreet. She ran away from her home in Sheffield after discovering that her father was arranging her marriage. The 21-year-old said: "I overheard my dad talking to his brother in Pakistan about getting me married to my cousin over there. He'd never discussed marriage with me. "I didn't want to get married yet. I wanted to finish my law degree. I would have been happy to have an arranged marriage in my mid-20s. But when I protested, my dad threatened me physically and said I would be letting the family down if I refused. I couldn't take any more of the rows, so I ran away." Days later, Jaspreet found out that her father had asked a family friend to track her down. "It didn't surprise me; towards the end, my dad pretty much disowned me. The hardest thing was leaving my mum and sister – they weren't fussed if I got married to my cousin, but were powerless to stop my dad. I was told [the family friend] was passing my photo around and contacting my friends. So I moved down to London to stay with a friend and changed my appearance. "It was horrible waking up and having that fear that someone is looking for you, and could hurt you. I used to always think 'when will this end?' I had counselling for my anxiety and panic attacks. My dad would have probably beaten me if I returned home; he had no love for me any more. That's why I moved to London." Another alarming case was Zena Briggs, who was forced to live on a witness protection scheme after fleeing an arranged marriage in 1993. When she ran away with her white partner Jack Briggs, her Pakistani family in Yorkshire hired a bounty hunter to try and kill them both. She has since divorced and set up a charity called the Zena Foundation to help victims of honour violence. So why do families pursue such ruthless tactics to hunt down their missing child? Southall Black Sisters (SBS), who support victims of domestic violence, says south Asian and Middle Eastern families are under huge pressure to conform to the traditional values of their community. "Conservative sections of the community will go as far as hiring a bounty hunter as they have a shared value system which takes priority, along with patriarchal structures and religious value systems," explains Hannana Siddiqui, an SBS spokeswoman. "The family's future is down to marrying their daughter. Men can have friends, get an education and job, and can get married when they're older. But women are [seen as] the embodiment of honour, so their sexuality and moral behaviour is controlled." Karma Nirvana, a charity which recently put on a touring road show on forced marriages, is calling for people fleeing them to be given extra police protection. They want a "witness protection" type-scheme, as recommended by a home affairs select committee inquiry into domestic violence in 2008. Jasvinder Sanghera, the founder of Karma Nirvana and herself a survivor of a forced marriage, said: "Currently, there is nothing to wipe a person's history if they want to start a new life. Under the scheme, the police would wipe out your history so you can't be traced, and would give you a new passport and National Insurance number." Campaigners point to the success of the government's Forced Marriage Unit and the Forced Marriage (Civil Protection) Act as justification for a specialist strategy. The unit rescues around 300 people each year, while the Act gives courts the power to stop families taking their child abroad, and has resulted in more than 120 injunctions preventing children from leaving the country. (fern comment: Sometimes they have to take drastic measures and withhold the family's passport as a last resort) But campaigners are troubled by newly announced cuts to the legal aid system. A recent survey by Resolution, the family lawyers' association, found that denying people the right to free legal advice would have a "devastating" impact on family law cases such as forced marriages. Not everyone, though, agrees that a specialist strategy is required to address the problem. Nazir Afzal, community liaison director at the Crown Prosecution Service and an expert on forced marriages, says: "There is a scheme for additional protection for any victim of crime. It already exists and is an individual response to individual cases. What we have suffices." (fern comment: he would say that wouldn't he!! Taqiyya!) As for the former bounty hunter Zakir, he is clear about what will stop the problem. "Nothing. Families will do anything in the name of honour." Some names have been changed. link here |
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| dragon | Nov 4 2010, 05:50 AM Post #2 |
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Yep just about what we all expected i think |
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| Span | Nov 4 2010, 07:56 AM Post #3 |
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Bounty hunters and general Spys, I wish everyone in our cause realised this isnt just a local network, it crosses conty bounbries too, And i personally thin its national. We had a local landlord that got a threat then a beating off islamic thugs, And was forced to move pubs, because of the continued threats of violence,(If he went to The police,) 3 weeks after moving to a newer premisis 20 miles away, the threats Started up again, How hard was it for The hunters to send out his name and mention any new landlords opening up called (Name witheld) get back to us, not very difficult . IMO taxis are viewed as sus and surveilance teams ,As standard, Good thread fern. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 08:39 AM Post #4 |
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It breaks my heart, and I feel riddled with guilt and very emotional when I remember... that I didn't do enough for one youngster, who was not as lucky as some others who escaped. I can't bear thinking about it tbh. |
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| uk4ever | Nov 4 2010, 08:52 AM Post #5 |
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I'll paypal anyone 500 quid to track this guy down and teach him a lesson (lesson - non violent of course ![]() |
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| Orwell | Nov 4 2010, 08:59 AM Post #6 |
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Typical of the Guardian to ignore the root cause of this - primative beliefs. They refer to 'conservative' family values when they mean sexist repression. They refer to 'honour' killings when they mean barbaric family murder. I suppose that we ought to be greatful that they are at least not sweeping it under the prayer mat... I mean carpet. |
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| lan-astaslem | Nov 6 2010, 08:55 AM Post #7 |
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Very good find. I was reading this or a very similar article to that five years ago, along with another article which had a lot to do with the police in Birmingham returning runaways home, but it seems to have been wiped of the net. Though it is a good article, the linx are very dicey, so dicey that I can see why the guardian put the article up Karma Nirvana founded by Jasvinder Sanghera seems to be staying away from the islamic issue and is going after Sikhs almost to the point of being anti Sikh as can be seen,, if you care to follow the link http://www.karmanirvana.org.uk/media-centre/honour-killing-stories There are four cases all involving sikhs The second link brings us to the Zena Foundation and we are greeted with a nasty little picture What a price to pay. This beautiful young woman was beheaded and her head thrown in the street as a warning to other Islamic women. Phyllis Chesler; reports in 1997 Cairo, Egypt, 25 year old Nora Marzouk Ahmed had her head chopped off by her father who then carried it down the street. ‘Now’ he said ‘the family has regained its honour’. Nora’s crime, she had eloped. http://www.zenafoundation.com/victims.php Honestly, here we have another example of false reporting The picture is none other than Zainab Ali Issa Abu Salem Now here is an English translation of the Arabic text in the Hamas children's newspaper Alfatah of September 22, 2004, in praise children's television presenter Zainab Ali Issa Abu Salem. "Suicide Bomber Zainab Abu Salem; Her head separated from her pure body, and her Ra'ala [Muslim headscarf] remains to decorate [her face]. Her place is in Paradise, where in the highest heavens, Zainab ... sister [who has been raised to the level] of men." Here is another article from the Guardian that seems to prove my point that it is spotlighting Sikhs and taking the focus away from Islam Bounty hunters are being paid thousands of pounds to track down and punish women who have run away from their families, before returning them to homes where they are imprisoned, beaten and even murdered..... Jack and Zena (sikh) Briggs have had to move home 27 times since their secret wedding in 1994 after her family hired a bounty hunter to avenge - by death, if need be - Zena's decision to marry a white man.... Kully Kaur,(sikh) for eight years a support worker for Nottingham Asian Women's Aid, believes some families are unaware of the harm a bounty hunter might do to their daughter: 'These men are often not known to the family at all, who hear about them through word of mouth. They might not even know if the bounty hunter is violent or not.' Kaveri Sharma,(sikh) a legal adviser at the Newham Asian Women's Project in London, said: 'Because women are becoming harder to intimidate, this could mean bounty hunters using more force, or families telling them that, if the girl won't come home, they should not let her continue living.' But the hidden nature of the business makes it almost impossible to tackle it, says Jasvinder Sanghera (sikh) of the Karma Nirvana shelter, a project run by Refuge. 'No one knows the extent of the problem, because no Asian family would ever admit to hiring a bounty hunter,' she said. 'Families keep it a dead secret to protect their honour.' Any Fern this is not meant as a dig at you, it was good you brought it up, as it exposes what is going on. Why I made this post is to point out that the Guardian is trying to cover up the Islamic aspect
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“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.” – Houari (Mohamed) Boumedienne, President of Algeria, 1965 – 1978, in a 1974 speech at the UN
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| ageofreason | Nov 6 2010, 11:05 AM Post #8 |
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People are starting to understand that the Islamistist treat is being supported by the taxi drivihg community in Britain.They are the ones whom have access to the wider "kuffer" community because of their "job". This access enables them to engage in all kinds of "permited" activities-ie-street jihad, bounty hunting gang rape etc. Their (muslim) "intellegence" gathering revolves around, and consists of these activities. This is a major concern and should be treated as such. However i doubt it will be ,untill we, the "kuffer" wake up to the FACT!! |
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| lan-astaslem | Nov 6 2010, 11:30 AM Post #9 |
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Yuo can add police and social workers to the list |
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“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.” – Houari (Mohamed) Boumedienne, President of Algeria, 1965 – 1978, in a 1974 speech at the UN
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| tobias malachi | Nov 6 2010, 11:37 AM Post #10 |
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An old format that is known to the security services, during the cold war the Eastern block countries use to employ tank commanders as truck drivers so that they would have a good knowledge of Europe they also used lorries with radio listening devices to eavsdrop on military communications. Every body thinks just another lorry, it is the same with taxies they are all very comon and nobody takes notice of them, but they all have radio's and are linked to a command centre. Just a thought a thought how many muslim black cabs were calling up re-enforcments at speakers corner? Do not underestimate islam they have a lot of people in strategic places |
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| Deleted User | Nov 6 2010, 12:37 PM Post #11 |
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Bear with me if I have missed something, haven't had any sleep yet. I don't fully understand your above comments Lan. Can you explain in more detail please as to where the false reporting is? What is the true story? As to the Sikh Honour related stories you refer to, I don't know why only Sikh's have been mentioned. I do know she deals with many cases of whom are muslim. Also, there are muslim testimonials on her webpage. This country doesn't do enough to help those faced with Forced Marriages/Abuse/Honour threatening related incidents/Honour Killings. The people at Karma Nirvana put themselves at great risk to help others, that I do know, so it is sad to see that in January 2010, their funding has been restricted. (Helpline The Honour Network Helpline has now sadly been restricted from the 4th January 2010 between the hours of 9.30am to 5pm Monday to Friday, until appropriate funding can be secured. This has impacted on our ability to reach many more victims and we are working hard to raise funds for the Helpline Since April 2008 to March 2010, the Honour Network helpline has received over 9000 calls (this includes our service being limited from 4th January 2010). We also record all missed calls to the Helpline who we have not been able support due to loosing our out of hours service. Over the past 6 months we have missed in the region of 300 calls. Karma Nirvana could not have anticipated the sheer volume of calls.The success of the line serves to highlight the tragic plight of many of our citizens) Will look at your other comments a bit later.......need some shut eye. |
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| lan-astaslem | Nov 6 2010, 05:53 PM Post #12 |
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The picture is not of Nora Marzouk Ahmed, but suicide bomber Zainab Ali Issa Abu Salem 17 On September 22, 2004, Zaynab ‘Ali ‘Issa Abu Salem , a female suicide bomber, detonated an explosive belt at a soldiers’ hitchhiking stop at in intersection in the northern Jerusalem district known as the French Hill. Her aim was to perpetrate a mass murder operation. As a result two Border Patrol policemen were killed (when they attempted to examine her) and 17 civilians were wounded. Fatah’s Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack. What is more disturbing is how this picture is being used Issue No. 38 of Al-Fateh, Hamas’ online children’s magazine displayed a picture of the suicide bomber next to a photograph of her decapitated head lying on the road. The caption praises the act and notes that she is now in paradise, a shaheeda like her male comrades. A picture of the suicide bomber and a photograph of her decapitated head as they appeared in the children’s magazine. ![]() Beneath the picture appears the following caption: الاستشهادية زينب أبو سالم انفصل رأسها عن جسدها الطاهر ، وبقي الحجاب يزينه فإلى الفردوس الأعلى يا زينب .. يا أخت الرجال It reads: Zaynab Abu Salem, who carried out the suicide bombing attack.Her head was severed from her pure body and her headscarf remained to decorate [her face]. Your place is in heaven in the upper sky, Zaynab…sister [raised to the status of heroic] men. Source http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/html/final/eng/sib/11_04/edu.htm This woman murdered two Israeli soldiers, and she should be remembered a suicidal murderess, and not a victim of an honour killing
No to big a problem, it just seems the articles and the site are side stepping the muslim involvement in this issue, and are targeting sikhs.
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“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.” – Houari (Mohamed) Boumedienne, President of Algeria, 1965 – 1978, in a 1974 speech at the UN
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| Deleted User | Nov 6 2010, 06:04 PM Post #13 |
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This nationwide Islamic network includes taxi drivers, islamic gangsters, imhams, business men, elders etc etc. To say they are a closed community would be an understatement, hence the calling for sharia law. They want nothing to do with the common law of this nation. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 6 2010, 10:07 PM Post #14 |
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Oh, I see Lan. Not good. Seems quite a few sites have the same (incorrect) info. Have looked quickly for a picture of Marzouk, can't find one. |
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| lan-astaslem | Nov 7 2010, 07:56 AM Post #15 |
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Thanx I have also looked for a picture of Marzouk, but there is nothing on the net. Yo, that is alarming that there are already other site with the same info, what makes this alarming is the islamist are very active in trying to take down sites that contain anti islamic info. A few years ago this picture was easy to find, but is now slowly disappearing, at this rate only sites that associate this picture with Marzouk will remain, thus falsely and cynically redirecting our sympathy towards a murderess. Using images is a very powerful tool, but if we use them wrongly then, we can be accused of hate etc etc, and this is why I take a hardline against the misuse of them. Especially here where there are many who are trying to accuse EDL of Racism and islamaphobia, so if a suspect image or a link to one appears, then in the interest of the forum I will speak out I have done a lot of research for images for the last 7 years to use against islam and racism, so most of the images on the net I am familiar with, also before I use an image I check very throughly to see if it is correct. As for images of victims of honour killings after the crime has been committed. they are very rare, and to find any that happened in Britain, you will not find. I do happen to have one on my hard drive, but I can not use it because it and all sources to it have gone from the net. I found it 5 years ago, and it was of a young Pakistani girl whose father beheaded her and threw her head out of train going from London to Birmingham in the late 70,s Anyway Fern thanx for checking Now back to the topic, I wonder why Jasvinders site doesnt mention the plight od muslim women, could it be because of the backlash from muslims Also it is typical of the media to say asian but despicable of the guardian to throw the spotlight on the sikh community when nearly all the honour crime are committed by muslims |
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| Deleted User | Nov 7 2010, 08:43 AM Post #16 |
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Morning! Now back to the topic, I wonder why Jasvinders site doesnt mention the plight od muslim women, could it be because of the backlash from muslims Backlash from muslims - therein lies the keyword. |
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| lan-astaslem | Nov 7 2010, 09:11 AM Post #17 |
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Edited by lan-astaslem, Nov 7 2010, 09:13 AM.
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“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.” – Houari (Mohamed) Boumedienne, President of Algeria, 1965 – 1978, in a 1974 speech at the UN
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