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Police: EDL not racist and not a problem...; From the SWP
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Issue: 2226 dated: 6 November 2010 News
posted: 6.06pm Tue 2 Nov 2010

Police: 'the English Defence League is not the problem'

Police with EDL activist Chris Renton on a protest in support of Geert Wilders in London last March (Pic: Guy Smallman)

by Viv Smith

A meeting with Preston councillors last week shows the extraordinary measures that police are prepared to use to block protests against the racist English Defence League (EDL).

Preston independent socialist councillor Michael Lavalette told Socialist Worker about a police briefing of Preston council.

The police asked to meet councillors about an EDL march planned for Saturday 27 November.

“I was shocked at what they came out with in that meeting,” Michael said. “They said that the EDL’s website states that it is a non-racist, peaceful organisation and that they would have to take that at face value.

“They said that the EDL has a right to protest and the police have to stay neutral. But then they launched a disgraceful attack against Unite Against Fascism (UAF).

“They told us that it is counter protests organised by UAF that cause trouble.

“They said that UAF is a front for the extremist Socialist Workers Party. The tenor was clear—UAF is as much of a problem, if not more so, than the EDL.

“I was furious and pointed out that UAF includes several national trade unions, MPs and labour movement activists.

“I had decided a few weeks ago to organise a counter protest when they come to Preston.”

Unity

UAF and the Preston Trades Council agreed to jointly call it and issued a unity statement which Michael took to Preston Council on the Thursday before the meeting with the police.

“All 25 Labour Party councillors signed the statement,” Michael said. “Two independents signed up and one Lib Dem councillor. Most trade unions have signed up as well.”

In the meeting with the police Michael said most EDL protests end in violence. “I pointed out that every protest has involved attacks on the police. In Stoke they ran riot and attacked cars and shops.

“I think the police wanted to use the meeting with councillors to clamp down on any counter protest and to abuse UAF.

“The EDL is being allowed to assemble outside the main church on the high street which is a five minute walk from Preston’s main mosque.

“If EDL supporters are allowed to march the 300 metres through the town to the Flag Market, they will be within minutes of Preston’s Asian community.”

The council is planning a special meeting on 8 November to decide whether to ask for the EDL march to be banned. Michael is opposed to this approach.

“Banning the EDL march doesn’t ban it having a static protest, so it is no victory for our side,” he said.

“In Stoke and Bolton where the Asian community and local people did largely stay away, there was more violence because the EDL was given free rein and was not opposed.

“A counter protest is our best defence because we can stand together in larger numbers and protect our communities.

“The best way to keep safe is to come out in large numbers—black, white and Asian together—at mosques and in the town centre.”

“The Flag Market is right in the heart of Preston—it is a symbolically important place. So I think it is vital that the community unites to defend it and stand together to stop the EDL.”

Drew Gale, a Labour councillor who represents the same Town Centre ward as Michael, told the local press he would join the UAF counter-protest and said, “I’ll be standing shoulder to shoulder with UAF in opposition.”

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michael lavalette is a muzzie loving c**t,he's always being photographed with them
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“They said that the EDL has a right to protest and the police have to stay neutral. But then they launched a disgraceful attack against Unite Against Fascism (UAF).
“They told us that it is counter protests organised by UAF that cause trouble.''
The UAF are fcuking idiots, the police are on the front line and KNOW whats going on, if they say the UAF cause it, then they should be listened to. of course you get some posh toff twat who sits behind a desk saying ''no no no EDL are the racist, facists who cause it!''when they have no idea. i have more respect for the police now, much more. and i realise that whatever they might say that pisses us off, i.e dont burn a picture with islamic sh1t on because you could get done for racism, its not because they are being wankers but because they are doing their job. they are told what to say and im sure if you were in their shoes you would do as your told, so you get paid.
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What ever happens we have to behave and back the police on this one. Sorry but some of you guys are going to have to sit on your hands and not retaliate what so ever
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he's a mate of allahway
http://www.lep.co.uk/news/rebel_george_probed_after_rally_comment_1_137444
he's also pro-palestine
http://www.lep.co.uk/news/west_bank_invitation_for_twinning_crusader_1_138615
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Even when the police clearly point to the obvious source of trouble the “UAF”, Socialist and Labour activists continue to cling on to their warped position. The general populous will be catching on to this soon in increasing numbers and recognise that we the “EDL” are the true voice of reason and they the UAF are aligned with a Fascist ideology, “Islam”.
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“A counter protest is our best defence because we can stand together in larger numbers and protect our communities.


Defence against what exactly?

So in other words, we turn up to peacefully protest and they turn up with a violent mindset. Proof if ever it was needed that they regard violence as necessary.

Also they don't like a few home truths did they? :D
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Nov 2 2010, 08:19 PM
execllent stuff - well done
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If this is what the police said about The English defence league then surely this is a good sign.It seems like Lancashire police have seen that we aren't violent violent racist yobs and that the uaf are as we've been saying since we started are a band of militant socialist hooligans.
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looking forward to lots of commies being arrested here
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Yet again the UAF take the moral high ground in spite of the evidence suggesting they have no right to.People will start to see through their spin and outright lies.
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“In Stoke and Bolton where the Asian community and local people did largely stay away, there was more violence because the EDL was given free rein and was not opposed."

I love this argument that is Commies/Muzzie thugs dont turn up there will be nobody to stop the EDL running riot? What about 3000 police? What a pile of claptrap LMFAO

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Next Demo in Preston, i'm going to stay out of the EDL, but still turn up.
I want the best video i can get of the UAF causing the violence, i'll even film footage of the abuse we'll get as we leave the station, i was in Preston not that long ago, and as soon as we leave i know we're going to get abused.
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Nov 2 2010, 08:50 PM
“In Stoke and Bolton where the Asian community and local people did largely stay away, there was more violence because the EDL was given free rein and was not opposed."

I love this argument that is Commies/Muzzie thugs dont turn up there will be nobody to stop the EDL running riot? What about 3000 police? What a pile of claptrap LMFAO

That'll be why 55 UAF got arrested in Bolton then, and only 9 EDL.

Deluded quarter-wits. (the product of a pair of half-wits breeding).
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The police aren't daft, they see what goes on and see it's the great unwashed causing the majority of the trouble at our demos. They are the ones that need banning...............permanently.
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Nov 2 2010, 09:06 PM
The police aren't daft, they see what goes on and see it's the great unwashed causing the majority of the trouble at our demos. They are the ones that need banning...............permanently.
its a fact they only turn up to try and provoke us into violence
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looking forward to lots of commies being arrested here
Nice find I bet that has nocked those pricks down a peg or two :D

And Joe quality blog as always mate.
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look at newcastle, no uaf, no violence no arrests
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looking forward to lots of commies being arrested here
Nice find I bet that has nocked those pricks down a peg or two :D

And Joe quality blog as always mate.
cheers wook - do you fancy going london for mfe remembrance sunday?
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Great find, this should be posted everywhere, the same way the lefties always post articles critical of the EDL everywhere :)
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The police aren't daft, they see what goes on and see it's the great unwashed causing the majority of the trouble at our demos. They are the ones that need banning...............permanently.
its a fact they only turn up to try and provoke us into violence
I know, such sad pathetic lives they lead, they really should go and find some trees to hug :D
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will be good to have the police onside, realising who the trouble makers are, wonder if they will arrest that prick on conspiracy charges trying to rile the locals?
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look at newcastle, no uaf, no violence no arrests
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looking forward to lots of commies being arrested here
Nice find I bet that has nocked those pricks down a peg or two :D

And Joe quality blog as always mate.
cheers wook - do you fancy going london for mfe remembrance sunday?
Sent you a pm mate thanks
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I see most of the local asians staying within there areas like deepdale you might get a few who will turn up (just for a nose etc)

Lavatte is a prick of the highest order ! and marxist communist as well as being a fcukin wrongun!

As a Prestonian he fcukin doesnt speak for me ! he is a twat and should fcuk off back to Ayrshire where he belongs (no offence to our calodonian couzens!) He is the reason along with his ilk who sit on the local city council that there will be no regeneration of our city center! (Tithbarn) who the fcuk will want to invest in a city that has a red council??

I want to see that sh1te (A Fair trade city) bollocks removed from the City signage as well !

It should read..Welcome to Preston home of Sir Tom Finney, PNE, Wallace and Gromit!


I thank you..
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I want to see that sh1te (A Fair trade city) bollocks removed from the City signage as well !

It should read..Welcome to Preston home of Sir Tom Finney, PNE, Wallace and Gromit!


I thank you..
And Bill !
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A fair trade city? JEEEEEEEEESSSSSUUUS that is dodgy
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And so the Propaganda starts.....
This thread and the article should be read by everyone tonight and torn to pieces. At least the Police are seeing it as it is. Shame that Viv Smith doesn't and shame on you Viv for the bile that comes out your mouth, and the comments that you know full well are intended to stir up hate. UAF are a problem fact, doesn't matter who backs it or signs wonderful pieces of denial paper love, they are filth and the Police knows it.

Viv herself is well behind the times, where has she been hiding? We are no longer racists/nazis, we are now extremists! The racist/nazi slur tag was so last week, keep up with things dear.

Here's a few extract's from her fairy tale;
“The EDL is being allowed to assemble outside the main church on the high street which is a five minute walk from Preston’s main mosque."
We know what you're doing, we know what you're doing! Heard this rubbish before haven't we? Old Viv has been talking to the Mayor of Amsterdam and is insinuating we are going to attack a Mosque.. No we are not Vivvy baby!

“If EDL supporters are allowed to march the 300 metres through the town to the Flag Market, they will be within minutes of Preston’s Asian community.”
Asian or Muslim? Is this a no go area for certain people, kindly explain? Are some people not allowed to visit this area or something? Do we live in a free democracy?
I'm sorry but the last time I checked this is free country and we can go wherever we like. Does this mean using Viv's thought pattern that if for instance I was white and lived in a white area then we should ban all non white people from the vicinity? This sounds extremely like apartheid talk to me? Get Nelson Mandela on the phone. Nelson we have a problem.

“The best way to keep safe is to come out in large numbers—black, white and Asian together—at mosques and in the town centre.”
What on earth is this deranged bag going on about here? Human shields round mosques?? Don't believe the extremist hype hon, they just don't what to label us next, Patriots perhaps?

“The Flag Market is right in the heart of Preston—it is a symbolically important place. So I think it is vital that the community unites to defend it and stand together to stop the EDL.”
Defend what exactly and from who?

Human shields, defending Flag market.. Blimey, I'm now getting worried we are under attack? Get Cameron to call the French Navy for help... SOS... get writing your Wills guys, get to the supermarket and buy all the canned food and bottled water you can get, wrap yourself in Tin Foil, watch Bear Grylls on Youtube "How to survive a Nuclear Holocaust", there is an invasion on the horizon! May god help us.
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A phrase involving hoist and petard springs to mind having read the article. It's always distressing for lefties to come face to face with the truth, particularly when they are not in a position to do anything about it :D
“We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”

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the hindu community are at the other end of the town,so we know who they mean
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"were coming down the road"
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“If EDL supporters are allowed to march the 300 metres through the town to the Flag Market, they will be within minutes of Preston’s Asian community.”
Asian or Muslim? Is this a no go area for certain people, kindly explain? Are some people not allowed to visit this area or something? Do we live in a free democracy?
I'm sorry but the last time I checked this is free country and we can go wherever we like. Does this mean using Viv's thought pattern that if for instance I was white and lived in a white area then we should ban all non white people from the vicinity? This sounds extremely like apartheid talk to me? Get Nelson Mandela on the phone. Nelson we have a problem.
Love it, absolutely love it.

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I'm loling @ the mental picture of the councillors faces when the Police said what they said.
Bet they were blank staring and blinking as their cogs whirred in confusion as the coppers accused their chums of being the problem.

ha ha! how funny is that :D :D
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Drew Gale, a Labour councillor who represents the same Town Centre ward as Michael, told the local press he would join the UAF counter-protest and said, “I’ll be standing shoulder to shoulder with UAF in opposition"

another labour party paedophile?
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Just read this aswell

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/831931-police-attacked-at-anti-racist-demo

I think the UAF 6th of Nov march will be very interesting indeed.

Let them have their march while we celebrate Bonfire Night. :D
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Drew Gale. 77 Lytham Road, Warton. Preston PR4 1AD. 01772 634287 cllr.d.gale@preston.gov.uk.

ask him why he is backing violent communists and radical islam over normal british people.
no problems...he is freely available to answer your questions in his role as labour party councillor.
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The police aren't daft, they see what goes on and see it's the great unwashed causing the majority of the trouble at our demos. They are the ones that need banning...............permanently.
its a fact they only turn up to try and provoke us into violence
I know, such sad pathetic lives they lead, they really should go and find some trees to hug :D
They are just upset because not even the trees will hug them back. The cnuts.
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This has got me looking forward to the Preston Demo!

If the coppers have admitted the UAF are the trouble-causers I'm expecting it to be just like Bolton where we see the lefties getting arrested left right and centre!

Monday tuesday happy days!
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Are you going to Preston, Zefiris? :)
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u a f aint got the gov support they once used to enjoy!,i mean...who would ever have though that comrade smith,and lard-arse bennett would be arrested!?..


note to these 2 pricks....uaf...your on your own now!
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Are you going to Preston, Zefiris? :)
No transport I'm afraid, I failed my drivers test four times and Preston is a bitch to get too on Public Transport from Mansfield.

In fact, Nottinghams bad enough to get too and it's only 15 miles away. (I somehow ended up in Worksop when i tried to get to the Nottingham demo :D )

I'll be there in spirit though!
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Are you going to Preston, Zefiris? :)
No transport I'm afraid, I failed my drivers test four times and Preston is a bitch to get too on Public Transport from Mansfield.

In fact, Nottinghams bad enough to get too and it's only 15 miles away. (I somehow ended up in Worksop when i tried to get to the Nottingham demo :D )

I'll be there in spirit though!
Get in touch with the local division , sutton also got a good crew, last meet they had they got about 18 , and that was the first ever meet mate,.

Plus theres the nuneaton one which is a piece of piss to get too,
trains to nuneaton from mansfield,
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Are you going to Preston, Zefiris? :)
No transport I'm afraid, I failed my drivers test four times and Preston is a bitch to get too on Public Transport from Mansfield.

In fact, Nottinghams bad enough to get too and it's only 15 miles away. (I somehow ended up in Worksop when i tried to get to the Nottingham demo :D )

I'll be there in spirit though!
Get in touch with the local division , sutton also got a good crew, last meet they had they got about 18 , and that was the first ever meet mate,.
I didn't know there was a Sutton division, least not the Nottinghamshire Sutton anyway.

Requested to join the Mansfield division on facebook but nothing came of it, is that division active do you know?

Mebbe it's just me, I'm not much cop with facebook so there's a high chance that I did things wrong :)
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check the train times mate, easy as pie,
Try the sutton in ashfield group mate, they will put you right, Mansfield is a bit inactive, but the sutton one is taking over,
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well it makes me furious that they would refer to us as the Racist English Defence League. I don't remember ever having an R in the EDL. REDL. no I don't think so. I don't think the several national trade unions, MPs and labour movement activists knew what they signed up for when they joined the UAF. they are Criminals and should be considered by all as so. lets not forget who we are against. that is Islam. no matter how many obsticals they put in our way. UAF who?
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well it makes me furious that they would refer to us as the Racist English Defence League. I don't remember ever having an R in the EDL. REDL. no I don't think so. I don't think the several national trade unions, MPs and labour movement activists knew what they signed up for when they joined the UAF. they are Criminals and should be considered by all as so. lets not forget who we are against. that is Islam. no matter how many obsticals they put in our way. UAF who?
That's because certain types of socialists have a speech impediment where they inadvertently put racist, fascist or homophobic before the start of any sentence. It's a bit like tourettes syndrome but without the drumming.
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Found the Sutton one and have sent a join request :)
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Just realised Zefris i gotta go and Sort some stuff out in sutton,
I can Give you a lift mate, or even arrange for one of the locals to pick you up,
Ill speak to the top man thursday, see what he can also come up with,concerning the 27th.
Thats why were here. mutual benefits. we stand together not alone :)


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We need to contact the Hindu and Sekh comunities to give them reassurance that the demo is not against them, and that it is against islamis extreemist.s
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