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Taqqiya about halal slaughter; Someone just post this on the Bristol divisions fb page
Topic Started: Oct 27 2010, 09:24 PM (97 Views)
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A muslim has just come on to the Bristol divisions page trying to justify halal slaughter & claim that it is more humane than our current methods, here are a few extracts from the taqqiya filled article he as linked to the page:

The vegetarian argument is that killing animals for the benefit of humans is cruel and an infringement of their rights. They put both on the same level without conceding any superiority to humans over animals. This argument is seriously flawed, because if animals had rights comparable to those of humans, they must also have equivalent duties. In other words, we must be able to blame them and punish them if they violate the rights of others. It is absurd that it should be considered a crime for humans to kill a sheep, but natural for a lion to do so.

It is true that when the blood flows from the throat of an animal it looks violent, but just because meat is now bought neatly and hygienically packaged on supermarket shelves does not mean the animal didn’t have to die?

The article then uses outdated & discredited research to claim that our humane method causes the animals pain but the Islamic way is in fact painless!!!!

It ends with:

Those who want to outlaw Islamic slaughter, arguing for a humane method of killing animals for food, are actually more concerned about the feelings of people than those of the animals on whose behalf they appear to speak.

Islamic slaughter, on the other hand, does not try to deny that meat consumption means that animals have to die, but is designed to ensure that their loss of life is achieved with a minimum amount of pain.

Islam is a balanced way of life. For Muslims, the privilege of supplementing their diet with animal protein implies a duty to animal welfare, both during the rearing of the animal and during the slaughter. Modern Western farming and slaughter, on the other hand, aims at the mass consumer market and treats the animal as a commodity. Just as battery hens are easier for large-scale egg production, Western slaughter methods are easier for the meat industry, but they do neither the animal nor the end consumer any favours. The Islamic way guarantees a healthier life for the animal and a healthier meat for the consumer.

If you want to read this article in full then heres the link: http://www.mustaqim.co.uk/halal.htm
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This topic does make my blood boil, animal welfare, huh, they wouldnt know what it was if it slapped them in the face!!! I've just seen some pictures on another post showing cows being slaughtered with groups of muslim men stood round laughing, blood covering the floor, and the conditions looking completely unhygienic!! I just think it is a disgusting, inhumane way for an animal to die. :(
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WalkdenAngel
Oct 27 2010, 10:22 PM
This topic does make my blood boil, animal welfare, huh, they wouldnt know what it was if it slapped them in the face!!! I've just seen some pictures on another post showing cows being slaughtered with groups of muslim men stood round laughing, blood covering the floor, and the conditions looking completely unhygienic!! I just think it is a disgusting, inhumane way for an animal to die. :(
Ive seen a couple of pics too, cant see anymore..it really makes me angry & so disgusted that they have absolutely no respect - for animals or people! Actually ive never seen a Muslim who owns a pet dog, when i was living in Australia id get strange looks from burka wearing women when id walk my dog (hes only small, 7.5 kg)...i found their looks quite strange, dont think they respect any animal... ?
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I see a lot of young muslim lads with dogs now, but again they are just using the animal, this time as a status symbol. I think they just see animals as objects which only exist to be used and abused by humans, they dont care that animals actually feel pain! It really does make me sick!! Also think our government should grow some balls and ban the burkha.
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Thanks for that.
Edited by paddywhack70, Oct 27 2010, 11:02 PM.
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What aload of absolute cobblers, ask him if he eats the meat straight after

the animal has been sexually abused by a muslim pervert or does he do

as the Qu'ran instructs and sell the meat on to another village ie, not on his own turf.
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This is his discussion with one of the admin:

ADMIN: The finding you have posted here are out of date & have been refuted by members of the research team.
As someone who worked with industrial knives for many years I know excactly how painfull a cut is & it has been proven that the animals can... take up to 15 minutes to die from this method so I suggest that you go elsewhere to peddle your taqqiya because we are too intelligent to buy into your brand of bullsh1t.
As for your line about living with an open mind I suggest you research Islam with an open mind & not the blinkered view that you have been indoctrinated with, you'll find out that Islam is full of hatred, inequality & promotes violence.
As you said "be informed and live with an open mind"

HIS REPLY: i wasn't as sure as yourself, so i did go and study for 6 years in religion, the outcome of which was my becoming a muslim! thank god! i dont hate anyone, just to be clear, i have friends in the EDL :) so don't be mean!
i slaughtered a goat ...with a knife with my own hands and it was just as described in the link,so my opinion is that what has been explained in the link is true, but that's MY opinion, and everyone's entitled to an opinion right? :) take care, peace!
I'd like to know how someone could study religion for 6 years & then decide that Islam was the right choice!?!?!
He then seems to think that because he killed a goat once he's an expert!!!
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