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| Bill Weinberg to speak in Oakland on sufism, jihad and imperialism; USA | |
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| Deleted User | Oct 27 2010, 08:21 AM Post #1 |
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Bill Weinberg to speak in Oakland on sufism, jihad and imperialism In New York's "Ground Zero Mosque" controversy, xenophobes are ironically protesting construction of a Sufi community center—even as Sufi mosques and shrines are getting blown up regularly in Pakistan by the same political forces that were behind 9-11. Imam Rauf of the planned center (the Cordoba Institute), meanwhile, is being paid by the State Department to go on good-will tours of the Islamic world. The RAND Corp and various neocon pundits have openly called for grooming Sufis (with their tolerant, universalist and pacifist spirit) to oppose jihadism in Pakistan and elsewhere. The Russians are already doing this, pouring money into Sufi groups in Chechnya and the Caucasus. In Somalia, a Sufi order has actually taken up arms against the local jihadi outfit, the Shabaab, which is attempting to suppress them. They may have no choice but to do this, but it could make them ripe for CIA/Pentagon intrigues. Sufi orders played a critical but little-recognized role in anti-colonial struggles (against France in West Africa, Britain in Somalia, Italy in Libya, etc.). Today, with the collapse of the left and secular nationalism in the Middle East, how do we respond to the rise of jihadism (lubricated as it was by CIA largesse in the '80s)? How do we offer solidarity to its targets without playing into new imperialist intrigues and strategies? Discussion by Bill Weinberg, editor of World War 4 Report and producer for the Moorish Orthodox Radio Crusade on WBAI-NY. Sunday October 31, 1:00 PM link http://www.ww4report.com/node/9206 |
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| Deleted User | Oct 27 2010, 08:38 AM Post #2 |
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"The RAND Corp and various neocon pundits have openly called for grooming Sufis (with their tolerant, universalist and pacifist spirit) " Bullsh!t and Taqiyya!!! The Sufis are just as violent as the rest of them: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/02/bostom-sufism-without-camouflage-beyond-stephen-schwartz.html http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/05/sufi_jihad.html http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/01/iraqi-sufis-donate-to-hamas-boast-of-jihad-activity-in-iraq.html http://sheikyermami.com/tag/sufi-jihad/ It's the old 'good cop/bad cop' routine. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 28 2010, 04:33 AM Post #3 |
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Interesting it's in Oakland as it is a very deprived African American city, somewhere I'd expect Islam (through Nation of Islam) to be trying to gain power. Nearly all the muslims I've seen in DC are African American (and I don't mean Somalian!) |
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| lan-astaslem | Oct 28 2010, 07:34 AM Post #4 |
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Bill Weinberg to speak in Oakland on sufism, jihad and imperialism Firstly lets look where Weinberg is coming from Bill Weinberg is a political writer and radio personality operating out of New York. He is the primary producer of a weekly late-night radio show on WBAI in New York, called the Moorish Orthodox Radio Crusade (originally founded in 1988 by Peter Lambourn Wilson, who is also known as Hakim Bey, former director of English language publications at the Imperial Iranian Academy of Philosophy0 His basic political orientation is left-wing anarchist. Bill Weinberg is a co-founder of National Organization for the Iraqi Freedom Struggles The National Organization for the Iraqi Freedom Struggles (NO-IFS) is a coalition of individuals who have come together to oppose the U.S. war against Iraq by supporting the secular, democratic, and progressive movements in Iraq that are struggling for freedom against the occupation and against the Ba'athists and the political Islamists of all stripes, who aim to impose a theocratic state on the Iraqi people. We intend to be an organized presence within the American antiwar movement on the basis of the following principles: http://www.no-ifs.org/ That about sums him up
In 2007, the influential RAND Corporation issued a major report titled "Building Moderate Muslim Networks," which urged the US government to form links with Muslim groups that opposed Islamist extremism. The report stressed the Sufi role as moderate traditionalists open to change, and thus as potential allies against violence. Early in their history, Sufis developed a powerful military streak, making them the knights of Islam, as well as the monks and mystics. Like the Japanese samurai, the brotherhoods trained their followers to amazing feats of devotion and overcoming pain. Fanatical dervish warriors were the special forces of every Islamic army from the 13th century through the end of the 19th. The expansion of Islam outside the core areas of the Middle East is above all a Sufi story. Sufi orders led the armies that conquered lands in Central and South Asia, and in Southeastern Europe; through their piety and their mysticism, the brotherhoods then won the local populations over to Islam. When Islam was under threat, the Sufis were the trained soldiers, and their close-knit brotherhoods allowed them to form devastatingly effective resistance movements. Sufi orders led anti-colonial movements from Morocco to Indonesia. Most of us, for instance, have heard of the stubborn Chechen guerrillas, but few realize how absolutely this movement is rooted in Sufism. When the Russians pushed south into Muslim lands in the 19th century, the heroic Sufi sheikh Imam Shamil launched a decades-long guerrilla war. Even Stalin's terror campaigns could not root out the Sufi brotherhoods. The fearsome leader of modern-day Chechen resistance, Shamil Basayev (see Beslam), was named for the original imam. A similar story can be told of islamists in Kurdistan, Kashmir, Albania, Kosovo, and elsewhere, who owed their solidarity and cohesion to the immense power of the Sufi brotherhoods. Not only do they ground political activism in religion, but their faith spreads through intense and secretive brotherhoods, led by charismatic masters. Sufis certainly have fought Western forces through the years, and Sufi-founded movements have on occasion engaged in terrorist actions -- witness the Chechens, remember Beslam. Only yesterday I was reading the below, so I will take the opportunity to repost here Ali Pasha of Tepelena or of Yannina, surnamed Arslan, "the Lion", or the "Lion of Yannina", Ali Pasha Tepelena (1740 – January 24, 1822) was an Albanian ruler (pasha) of the western part of Rumelia, the Ottoman Empire's European territory During the early days of his rule he was personally known for his alertness, he soon became a well known Albanian Muslim figure he also commanded one of the largest battalions of Albanian Janissary. Ali Pasha adhered to the Sufi Order of the Bektashi Brotherhood. Ali Pasha was also known to have fasted during the month of Ramadan Ali's policy as ruler of Ioánnina was mostly governed by expediency; he operated as a semi-independent despot and pragmatically allied himself with whoever offered the most advantage at the time. In fact, it was Ali Pasha and his Albanian soldiers and mercenaries who subdued the independent Souli The cruelties inflicted by Ali Pasha on his subjects became notorious throughout the region, and have been described in local folksong and poetry. Forty years after the inhabitants of Gardhiq and Hormova, Albania, had wronged his mother after murdering his father Veli Bey (according to the story, she was tied and put in prison and, with her daughter, raped and tortured every night by another group of men), Ali wrought revenge by having 739 male descendants of the original offenders executed. In 1808, Mühürdar a commanding Janissary of Ali Pasha captured one of his most renowned opponents, the Greek klepht Katsantonis, who was executed in public by having his bones broken with a sledgehammer. One of Ali's notorious crimes, was the massive murder of arbitrarily chosen young Greek girls of Ioannina. They were unfoundly sentenced as adulteresses, tied up in sacks and drowned in Lake Pamvotis. In 1788 Ali Pasha's troops razed the Aromanian metropolis of Moscopole. Oral Aromanian tradition (songs) tells about the cruelty of Ali Pasha's troops. Αt 1798 Ali's troops attacked the coastal town of Preveza, which was defended by French troops and local Greeks. When the town was finally conquered a major slaughter occurred against the local people as retaliation for their resistance. Moreoever, in the early nineteenth century his troops completed the destruction of the once prosperous cultural center of Moscopole, modern southeastern Albania, and lead its Aromanian population to flee from the region |
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