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Crud Arse urges parties to 'choke off' EDL surge
Topic Started: Oct 25 2010, 10:47 AM (393 Views)
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A Labour MP today called on political parties to "choke off" what the English Defence League (EDL) taps into.

Jon Cruddas, MP for Dagenham and Rainham, said the EDL is a small, violent street militia "but it speaks the language of a much larger, disenfranchised class".

Writing in The Times, he said: "The EDL may well pass through, and crash and burn like many of its predecessors.

"But it may not, because it taps into a politics born out of dispossession but anchored in English male working-class culture - of dress, drink and sport.

"Camped outside the political centre ground, this is a large swath of the electorate, a people who believe they have been robbed of their birthright and who are in search of community and belonging. Many are traditional Labour supporters."

Many working class people appeared to be turning to the far-right cultural movements that are sweeping across Europe, he warned. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cruddas-urges-parties-to-choke-off-edl-surge-2115829.html
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The politcians are getting worried. And so they should be.
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Nice,nice,Nice....major players are noticing us.
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"Camped outside the political centre ground, this is a large swath of the electorate, a people who believe they have been robbed of their birthright and who are in search of community and belonging. Many are traditional Labour supporters."


I think what he meant was "Many WERE traditional Labour supporters"
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Yeah, they're finally realising that you can only ignore what your public says for so long before Joe Public takes matters into his own hands.
They all should be forced to make public apologies to the public. Forced to state on TV that they have totally ignored our wishes and done what they want to do despite our objections.
We need a clean slate of politicians. Out with the old, in with the new.
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we ARE starting to worry these fu****s,good news
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Oct 25 2010, 10:50 AM
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"Camped outside the political centre ground, this is a large swath of the electorate, a people who believe they have been robbed of their birthright and who are in search of community and belonging. Many are traditional Labour supporters."


I think what he meant was "Many WHERE traditional Labour supporters"
the rest of it is on has been written spot on though... quote "people who believe they have been robbed of their birthright and who are in search of community and belonging"..
Edited by learning curve, Oct 25 2010, 11:00 AM.
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Good to see someone is listening...
THEY JOINED FOR MANY REASONS, TO MARCH, TO SAIL, TO FLY. THEY WENT WHERE THEY WERE POSTED, BUT NOBODY JOINS TO DIE. THEIR LEADERS TALK ON TV, WHAT ELSE COULD WE HAVE DONE? BUT THOSE LEADERS LOST NO DAUGHTERS, AND NONE HAS LOST A SON. SO HERE'S TO ALL OUR SOLDIERS WHEREVER THEY MAY BE...AND HERES TO ALL THEIR FAMILIES, I RAISE A GLASS TO THEE...WEAR YOUR POPPY WITH PRIDE.
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This guy is an MP and arguing, let’s help the disenfranchised working class populous (who don’t have a clue) by stifling their only vehicle of expression.

Like the media, MP’s will soon attempt to occupy the EDL position while still maintaining an opposition to this “racist organisation”.

They will do and say anything to keep their jobs and that includes selling their country.
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Even the politicians are waking up! great news. NS
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I dont think they are taking the blindest bit of notice of us
they have realised about 10 years later than most of us that there is indeed a major problem , and by acknowledging us they dont admit to have being wrong .
it was always gonna come, but just when they realised the problem was the question
the next question is ,will they be too stubborn to act immediately, or will they try the tactic of trying to hide their mistakes by diluting the immigration programme , rather than stop it now and saving the country
my guess is that they will be too stubborn and pig headed to admit mistakes and they will try to hide the facts that we are in severe mire with the islamic invasion . ( look at the birthrates )
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Oct 25 2010, 11:10 AM
I dont think they are taking the blindest bit of notice of us
they have realised about 10 years later than most of us that there is indeed a major problem , and by acknowledging us they dont admit to have being wrong .
it was always gonna come but just when they realised the problem was the question
the next question is will they be too stubborn to act immediately or will they try the tactic of trying to hide their mistakes by diluting the immigration programme , rather than stop it now and save the country
my guess is that they will be too stubborn and pig headed to admit mistakes and they will try to hide the facts that we are in severe mire with the islamic invasion . ( look at the birthrates )
I agree.
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TBH, I think he is insuring him self. By opposing the EDL now he is effectively saying he sides with multiculturalism and Islam. That means when he is next up for election he can say: Look at me I opposed the EDL and get lots of votes from those who you must not offend.

As for the main stream taking note, I doubt it, yet.
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It's nothing Frank Field hasn't beeen saying for ages
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"Now all our political parties must search for an animating, inclusive and optimistic definition of modern England to choke off what the EDL taps into."


What the EDL taps into? Does he mean popularity?
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"Now all our political parties must search for an animating, inclusive and optimistic definition of modern England to choke off what the EDL taps into."


Put in plain English it says,we must push multicultarism and hope beyond hope that the scumbags see the light and convert to Islam.
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Shut up Crud arse your government nearly bankrupt britan now piss off for a few years.The politcians were ok pre-edl when people read somthing in the papers and had a grumble and forgot about it but now if someone reads somthing in the papers or online they can share it with like-minded people and things can be done about it.PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP that's why the politcians are sh1tting their pants.
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A Labour MP today called on political parties to "choke off" what the English Defence League (EDL) taps into.
What? The only thing that will stop us as individuals is our own deaths but the movement will continue!


Jon Cruddas, MP for Dagenham and Rainham, said the EDL is a small, violent street militia "but it speaks the language of a much larger, disenfranchised class".
And who, exactly, brought about this "disenfranchised class"? What you mean is: We disagree with the destruction of our country.


Writing in The Times, he said: "The EDL may well pass through, and crash and burn like many of its predecessors. ""But it may not, because it taps into a politics born out of dispossession but anchored in English male working-class culture - of dress, drink and sport.
HA! Get real - we'll still be here when you are a forgotten part of history despite the fact that YOU have dispossessed US!


"Camped outside the political centre ground, this is a large swath of the electorate, a people who believe they have been robbed of their birthright and who are in search of community and belonging. Many are traditional Labour supporters."
Well, where is our birthright and community if it isn't here? You've been caught out trying to obliterate our social identity and left us in a wilderness almost without cultural identity. This very fact created a pariotic struggle to preserve our way of life.


Many working class people appeared to be turning to the far-right cultural movements that are sweeping across Europe, he warned.
Er, I don't think so even though this may appear to be the case looking inwards from the far left, In your view, even not wishing to be dragged over to the far left of the political agenda makes us 'far right'? We are not 'far left', 'centre ground' or 'far right' - we are the ordinary people of this country you have deserted and betrayed.



You Mr Crud Arse ( :D ) seem to forget why you held office.
If the good people of this country, whom you seem to revile so much, elected you as their representitive in parliament, don't you think you should afford them a little more courtesy and respect? Your own arrogance will meet it's demise far sooner than the will of the people you hold in so much contempt. NFS (tawt).

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I think cruddas, like the rest of these arrogant tw.ts is patronizing the EDL members, with his, they don't know what their supporting rhetoric.

He and his ilk think they know best and that we couldn't possibly have the intelligence to understand complex politics, that are way above are understanding. Well! we know what's right and what's wrong: the EDL is right and the left wing apologist's that support the evil ideology that is Islam are wrong......simples!
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I posted a corking response on that article and when I refreshed the page 5 minutes later they had took all the comments down! What are they hiding? My voice for a start!
For every English soldier fighting in Afghanistan. For every English child being trafficked as a sex slave around her own country by muslim men.
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It seems the Independent can't take anyone disagreeing with them.

Well done for giving it a try, 656434.
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"Camped outside the political centre ground, this is a large swath of the electorate, a people who believe they have been robbed of their birthright and who are in search of community and belonging. Many are traditional Labour supporters."


I think what he meant was "Many WERE traditional Labour supporters"
A Labour party that has forgotten it's people, that has sold them out and forced multiculturalism down their throats, whilst they sit in their nice houses (look and John Prescott) sipping wine, patting themselves on the back and saying what a wonderful country this is, we are so brilliant, we know best for the working class they really don't know anything anyway and need us champagne socialist to tell them how to live their lives. What made me f**king mad was that plonker with the fake smile that scared children, whilst canvassing called a life long labour supporter a bigot in his car (forgetting the microphone was on) when she dared ask about immigration. This is what these people really think of us, when they are in the comfort of their chauffeur driven cars all they think about is getting out of the area back to their £750,000.00 house next to Billy Brag...
So I got the times today, but I'm not going to comment on the EDL parts, but rather the section by the CBI on the state of the country. In the last 10 years the country has gone so backward that it doesn't look at all good for companies to invest here to start a business. Our competitiveness has evaporated, due to tax, bureaucracy gone mad and cost of living . We are now on par with areas like the Middle east... Yes folks the third world tag is upon on us... Well done Labour for f*cking this country up good and proper.
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ha ha, yeah he's bang on about me...I was labour for years but as someone above posted...the party left me not the other way round...thats why ppl in the provinces and the NE still vote labour cos they feel guilty voting on instinct...they feel they are leaving their roots and thats simply not the case.
In time they will realize its the party thats changed and not them.
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Instead of stopping movements like the EDL maybe the twats should start to look at why movements are spreading across Europe.

Here's a hint in case any of the politicians read this.

ISLAM

All across Europe, hell all across the globe there are tensions between Muslims & non-muslims of any religion.

Nigeria, India, Israel, France, Sweden, China, Japan, Indonesia, Sudan, Russia, Serbia, Italy, Spain, England, America, Denmark, Germany, Holland, Belgium. . .The list goes on.

It's a global thing but politicians refuse to see there's a problem.
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they probly mean literaly choke us
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Refered to as street militia, thats the first time ive heard edl described as that.
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Oct 25 2010, 12:58 PM
I think cruddas, like the rest of these arrogant tw.ts is patronizing the EDL members, with his, they don't know what their supporting rhetoric.

He and his ilk think they know best and that we couldn't possibly have the intelligence to understand complex politics, that are way above are understanding. Well! we know what's right and what's wrong: the EDL is right and the left wing apologist's that support the evil ideology that is Islam are wrong......simples!
fcuking infuriating, isn't it?
They just write us off as stupid. Well they do that at their peril.
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He's too stupid to realise that in many ways its because of Labour that the EDL came to be formed. Would mass immigration and the Islamisation of Britain have occured under another government. I dont think so. It just wasnt an issue or a problem prior to 1997.
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The EDL is unstoppable now, the EDL will be here long after the labour party has gone. I have said it before, when historians look back, the start of the EDL is the start of the English resistance to the islamification of England.

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The tables are slowley but surely turning against the political parties in this country.
It must piss them off big time to see such a large group of people from diffrent backgrounds
all united against a common threat.

We are not going anywhere.

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They still don't get it do they?

Why the fcuk are we seeing a rise GLOBALLY of so-called Right Wing groups? Is it because we are bad people? Is it all because we are mindless fcuking sheep who lack the ability to make our own minds up? NO it's because there is a major fcuking problem with islam being allowed to rampage across the planet by these fcuking simpletons who can't see passed what they can claim for on expenses.

Until they pull their heads out of their arses and start fcuking listening to groups like ours then we will continue to grow in strength and number.

We aren't the problem we are a symptom of much greater one.
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It's easy to choke the EDL and I would welcome it!

TAKE ISLAM SERIOUSLY YOU MUPPETS!

If they stopped treating Islam as a religion and started treating it as a violent, fascist political movement they'd have a chance.

So, not really, the EDL will be needed for a long time.
Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009.


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They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back.
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See people. These cnuts are starting to realise It's more than a couple of people pissed off with this government.
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