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PC thinking 'is harming society'
Topic Started: Oct 23 2010, 04:47 PM (127 Views)
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a slightly old article i thought worthy of a post... source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4576528.stm



Britain's institutions are infected with political correctness which is damaging society, according to a book published by a right-wing think-tank.

Civitas says political correctness has allowed the creation of "Muslim ghettos" which produce suicide bombers.

PC thinking now dominates schools, councils and the media, Anthony Browne says in The Retreat of Reason.

But Inayat Bunglawala, of the Muslim Council of Britain, said the use of the term ghetto was misleading.

Mr Browne, a journalist for The Times, said he had been motivated to write the report by the media's coverage of rises in the number of people with HIV.

He said the rise in new infections since 1997 was down to increasing levels of HIV-infected migrants from sub-Saharan Africa, but that political correctness had stopped the government tailoring public health policy to this.

The author said PC views labelled some groups as victims, and banned dissent.


By closing down debates, it restricts the ability of society to tackle the problems that face it
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"By closing down debates, it restricts the ability of society to tackle the problems that face it," Mr Browne said.

Giving one example, he told BBC News that the issues behind the Bradford riots, where most of the rioters were Asian, had not been tackled because of political correctness.

"It creates an atmosphere where it's almost impossible to actually say, look there are real issues going on here, there are real tensions going on here...

"You have ghettoisation of the mind where people don't start trusting each other, where they don't know about the wider community, where actually their opportunities are damaged because they don't know about wider mainstream British society."

But Mr Bunglawala said he objected to Mr Browne's argument.

"These are not Muslim ghettos, it is factually wrong to describe them as ghettos. [They are] nothing like the Warsaw ghetto."

Mr Bunglawala said no-one would dream of describing London areas with large Jewish populations as ghettos, and he dismissed the argument that toleration of Muslim ghettos produced bombers as "ludicrous".

"The [July bombs] ringleader Mohammed Sidique Khan lived in a white suburb of Dewsbury. Most people will look to a radicalisation [of some Muslims], much of it with anger over certain foreign policy [decisions]."

'Moral cowardice'

Mr Browne said "soft totalitarianism" had led to "moral cowardice" and "intellectual dishonesty".

Political correctness once prevented overt discrimination but now "causes more harm than good", he said.

It caused censorship as some views were being suppressed simply because they caused offence or aroused emotions such as hatred, he said.

He said it had affected crime, education and community relations.

Terror impact

"The most overt racism, sexism and homophobia in Britain is now among the weakest groups, in ethnic minority communities, because their views are rarely challenged, as challenging them equates to oppressing them," Mr Browne added.

Mr Browne said terrorism and the economic rise of India and China could see the end of political correctness.

As Western democracies felt more vulnerable, their inhabitants would be "more hard-headed about the real benefits and drawbacks of Western civilisation", he said.

"The West will no longer feel inclined to indulge in self-loathing, but will seek to reaffirm its sense of identity."

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Political Correctness has helped Islam rise unchallenged in the UK.

Well not anymore.
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Oct 23 2010, 04:49 PM
Political Correctness has helped Islam rise unchallenged in the UK.

Well not anymore.
well said mate, thanks to the e.d.l this issue is fast becoming a thing of the past!
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I watched an excellent video of Jamie Glazov over on Kitman's site. He talked about the way that agents of the state told lies about Solzhenitsyn, and after they'd repeated them enough times they actually believed their own lies.

Glazov's short speech got me thinking about 'The Gulag Archipelago'. It's been many years since I read it but I recall one incident where someone was arrested for the terrible offence of hanging their jacket over a bust of Stalin. Ten years in the gulag, no questions asked. For not showing the proper 'respect' to the human figurehead of an all-encompassing ideology. In Holland in 2010 it's not possible to send someone to the gulag for a decade for thoughtcrime, but they've certainly tried to ruin Geert Wilders' career and his life both. If the powers-that-be actually could send Wilders away quietly in the middle of the night do you think they'd do so?

I think that what really pushes the buttons of some of these true believers, when they see organisations like the EDL standing before them, is that they are being told in no uncertain terms that reality trumps their theory -and this is what really annoys them. Annoys them beyond belief, one might say.

As Glazov said, for the true believer, everything comes second to their theoretical worldview, which in their arrogance they believe is (as Isaiah Berlin once said) 'the final solution' which will cure all the world's ill and result in a utopia, if only we would all go along with it without question.
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Have you ever noticed that there's always a 'new revalation', 'breaking news', 'facts coming to light' etc. amidst a big fanfare - 5 years too late???

All 'they' have to do is ask 'the man on the street' or, even better, keep listening to 'the man on the street' whenever he speaks. The only surprises down here 'on the street' is that no fcuker at the top has a clue about what's going on!!!

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I blame socialism, for its use of PC, at times when it really isn't needed (if not needed at all at any time) it has allowed waves of foreigners to get in through slack standard measures to stop them coming in by allowing families in who have realtions here from when we first let them in after the war in Attlee's government shoved aside churchill who was warning of the repercussins of allowing socialism into our lives. since then tax went up, population went up. It was a wave that could not be stopped, hopefully now it will be pushed down to the ground, stopped and reversed. a revolution could be at hand but a lot has to be done least getting rid of the wishy washy traitors that line their pockets, line other pockets of less favoured with our taxes, don't pay our troops enough (or not even the same as a london tube or bus driver who earn more) and scrap the Harrier early, sell our gold at discount price etc.

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the reality is that liberalism and p.c thinking has been explioted to its fullest extent and wrecked our country and continues to do so, the more groups jumping on the leftist band wagon only aggrivates and slows down any issue against it making the right thing, the wrong thing to do to speak out against it..

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Oct 26 2010, 01:35 AM
Have you ever noticed that there's always a 'new revalation', 'breaking news', 'facts coming to light' etc. amidst a big fanfare - 5 years too late???

All 'they' have to do is ask 'the man on the street' or, even better, keep listening to 'the man on the street' whenever he speaks. The only surprises down here 'on the street' is that no fcuker at the top has a clue about what's going on!!!

Quite right, people sitting in their ivory towers making up theories about how they'd like the world to be on the one hand - and reality on the other. Actual real life. I think this is why that American journalist Juan Williams just got his P45. Any sane person worries if they see a group of devout Muslims complete with full Islamic garb etc boarding their plane. A perfectly natural reaction to the events of the last decade. By stating this perfectly obvious fact, Mr. Williams put reality before theory for a moment. So far as the true believers are concerned, that makes Juan Williams a heretic of the deepest dye. True believers don't want to admit that their worldview is just that - a theory. They want to have their theoretic worldview accepted as the final solution, and anyone who wants to deal in reality instead of their dreamworld simply cannot be tolerated.
So to get back to the point made in the title of the thread: society is therefore being harmed in two fundamental ways: there's no need to rehash the arguments we're all familiar with about Islamic principles being allowed to flourish inside a Western democracy. That's the first. The second though, and maybe just as harmful to a democracy, is the way the very people who are supposed to understand the principles of freedom of speech and how it can benefit a society are in fact acting in direct opposition to those very principles, and by so doing they are actively harming the society they claim to care so much about!
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