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| Parson-St-Station | Oct 20 2010, 12:54 AM Post #1 |
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Because I'm a bit of an anorack, I have been looking at new people joining up. Its a staggering 25-30 per day. Thats quite incredible for a group that vast parts of the UK haven't really met up and formed divisions etc. What the main parties would give for growth such as this. Even if the rate of growth doesn't rise, the EDL will have nearly 30,000 members on this forum. Fantastic work people,especially,the Mods,admins and divisional leaders. Oh yeah and some bloke called Tommy........ Bloody great work people. NS I meant 30,000 in 12 months time...doh! Edited by Parson-St-Station, Oct 20 2010, 12:55 AM.
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| nb77 | Oct 20 2010, 01:03 AM Post #2 |
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Word is spreading. Feelings on ties to the tea party movement? |
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| Deleted User | Oct 20 2010, 01:04 AM Post #3 |
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It's good that we are getting so many members daily, let's hope this keeps up and they become active members. Oh, and thanks for the compliment for admin/mods
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| Deleted User | Oct 20 2010, 01:31 AM Post #4 |
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The more ties you can make with the Tea Party movement in the U.S. the better. The tea party movement is a powerhouse movement now in the U.S.... |
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| Parson-St-Station | Oct 20 2010, 01:32 AM Post #5 |
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To be honest I don't know enough to make an informed opinion.Its great that when standing against an established oponent the Tea Party were initially taken quite seriously but when the lady (can't remember her name) started going on about dabbling in witchcraft, a lot of credibility instantly vanished.It was quite amatuerish, very much like Sarah Palin in her shot for VP and I think both women shot themselves in the foot. However,the Tea party has one thing the EDL don't and thats wealthy backers.Next time they will choose their candidate perhaps a little more carefully, and certainly get them more media savvy. Certainly Obama's Presidency and his willingness to listen to Muslims closely has made the right grow quite nervous,which will probably ensure the Tea Party will also expand rapidly,but obviously not as a street based group. As to having ties to them,a couple of million$ heading this way would be great, but I'm not sure what we could offer in return? Ive rambled abit,as like I said I don't know that much about them,but I hope thats answered your question. Cheers |
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| TodeSLichT | Oct 20 2010, 02:03 AM Post #6 |
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Don't know what to offer? In the whole spirit of both the movements, I would start with tea and biscuits. Maybe even push the boat out and offer cucumber sandwiches, buns and cakes too. Hell, for that sort of $ I would even make the bloody things meself. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 20 2010, 05:22 AM Post #7 |
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I would bone a fat red-neck who can't sing for that much. |
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| Parson-St-Station | Oct 20 2010, 05:30 AM Post #8 |
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Ah,but is there an upper weight limit...a 400lb red-necks gotta be worth more than a 200lb trailer trashing hillbilly?
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| BrutusVa | Oct 20 2010, 02:03 PM Post #9 |
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Any idea how many members of this forum are from the US? |
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| Deleted User | Oct 20 2010, 02:28 PM Post #10 |
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"TexanInfidel" "Tooofast" and "nb77" from this forum are American. And "Knuckles" is a Brit who now lives in America. |
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| donsilbers | Oct 20 2010, 02:34 PM Post #11 |
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I've got a friend who lives in America - if that counts.
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| leasky33 | Oct 20 2010, 02:58 PM Post #12 |
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this tea party thing is big over there in USA, it be great if the edl an other get involved with them, as ive been told the left over there hate the tea party
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| nb77 | Oct 20 2010, 03:30 PM Post #13 |
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Not American... just live here.
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| Deleted User | Oct 20 2010, 03:41 PM Post #14 |
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My opinion is that we could do no worse than to form strategic alliances. What can we offer in return? Well what happens here in the U.K and Europe will indirectly have repercussions state side. It seems that that our ruling political class currently have no agenda to address the issues we care about and we need a credible alternative here fast, I know we are not political so it's a tough call all round. |
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| lancashirelad | Oct 20 2010, 05:31 PM Post #15 |
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Regarding that lass linked to the tea party in America and the witch thing, ive no problem with that, and if she is a witch, shes one fit as fcuk witch, so ive no problem with that at all. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 20 2010, 06:24 PM Post #16 |
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i think the biggest push for the edl are in line with whats happening in main land europe, noticeably germany and holland, and to degree italy, france and switzerland. Europe IS waking up to the issues and is starting to react to them. The danger for the UK is, unless our politicians act in line with the rest of Europe we will become the 'dumping ground' however, i do wonder if a agreement will be made here, with Turkey ...... yes you can join the EU but you must be willing to make provisions for the moslim refugees from the European countries that dont want them ..... watch this space.... |
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| Deleted User | Oct 20 2010, 06:39 PM Post #17 |
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Can you please refrain from such descriptions of normal people in america etc. Thanks |
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| leicester-lad | Oct 20 2010, 08:50 PM Post #18 |
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i thought you ment having an actual tea party what a muppet
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| waspish | Oct 20 2010, 10:57 PM Post #19 |
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Is that the same tea party movement in the u.s.a thats tied to fundamental christian ties ? the ones who truly believe that the world was created 5 thousand years ago by god.... perleeeease.... i hope not.... |
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| desade | Oct 21 2010, 12:25 AM Post #20 |
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I share your view waspish, but I think we must go with the old saying - the enemy of my enemy is my friend.---- for now. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 21 2010, 01:02 AM Post #21 |
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If you don't get it, check the 18+ section - a thread titled something like: Would you for $1 million?
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| BrutusVa | Oct 21 2010, 02:03 AM Post #22 |
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I'm an American and a "Tea Party" member, in a manner of speaking. I say it that way because there is no organization that is The Tea Party, it is an idea. It has no leader, no headquarters, no membership fees. Like the EDL, we are neither racist nor fascist. The idea that there is big money backing the tea party is not true. There are some wealthy conservatives who have helped fund the big rally's in Washington DC and other places, but the overwhelming majority of tea party groups are simply people who get together on their own. We gather to exchange ideas and discuss issues and problems that we are concerned about. There are groups that want to do away with the Federal Reserve Bank (our BOE). Others focus on gun rights, eliminating income taxes, anti-abortion, illegal immigration, etc. The one thing we all agree on is that the federal government is too big and intrusive. It's a bigger threat to our liberty than al-qaida, the taliban, communism, you name it. Forum members "desade" and "waspish" have hit on something else that characterizes tea party "members", the vast majority are christians. Someone started a topic a week or so ago called "what's your religion". Many if not most who replied indicated that they were either non-religious or atheist. If the EDL is uncomfortable with people who are unabashed about their christian faith, that could be a problem. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 21 2010, 02:26 AM Post #23 |
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Brutus where ya from? I'm from Minnesota. There are a few other Americans on here too. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 21 2010, 02:31 AM Post #24 |
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We accept people of any religion here. One thing you may like to hear is that, I have witnessed video footage of some Athiests and Agnostics taking part in a Christian prayer at an EDL demo'. I will try to find the video for you. Here you go... ![]() We may not all be Christians, but we respect that our country was built on Christian values. |
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| BrutusVa | Oct 21 2010, 02:21 PM Post #25 |
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| Deleted User | Oct 21 2010, 07:41 PM Post #26 |
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Redneck, I have just discovered, is an insulting word (Wikipedia). Apologies if I offended anyone. |
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| waspish | Oct 21 2010, 08:19 PM Post #27 |
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I know that people who "have faith" sometimes get great comfort from their god or their chosen religion. For that I have no problem with anyone having faith as such. I do however find it extremeley annoying when people with "faith" of any kind try to force their religious ideas or their damned ideologies on me and demand that I stand my non belief down and accept their bloody stupid ideas on me. If a woman wants an abortion its between her and her doctor alone. i.m.o If a man wants to wear a dress and kneel facing wherever 5 times a day fine, no problem with that. But I will be buggered if my breakfast butty is banned because the same man doesnt like the smell of bacon... Get this matey... britain likes bacon butties. We have started the day here in britain with bacon butties for generations. its cultural. Its a family thing, Its what we do when we sit around in the cafe at lunch time with the rest of the workers sorting the day out and the jobs that need doing. If you do not like it,..may i suggest you F**K off to a country that better suits your religious beliefs. If you want to pray to a daiety with 6 arms and a trunk for a nose, crack on. If this gives you a feeling of well being Im chuffed for you. the nub of the point is though, no other religion exept islam demands that I change the way i eat, the way i educate my children and the way i celebrate the greatest shopping fest of the year "CHRIST..mas" every other religion is peaceful. every other religion gives and takes,and in general gets along with all things british and thats wonderful. but as for you islamist fekkers. shut up or ship out. and dont let the door hit you in the arse on the way. now then lads....anyone for a bacon butty with brown sauce ???? |
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| desade | Oct 22 2010, 02:04 AM Post #28 |
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Once again Waspish. I must agree with you. BrutusVa if you are reading this, yes I do think there is a problem with religion, after all that is why we are all gathered together here. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 22 2010, 03:55 AM Post #29 |
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Islam isn't a religion. If it was, the EDL wouldn't exist. |
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| kaimana1 | Oct 22 2010, 05:10 AM Post #30 |
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I agree with you j2... I dont believe the EDL is anti religious otherwise you wouldnt have members like ignominious pax christi, etc....etc...posting on here including sikhs, hindus, jews ,spiritualists and malsians as well as agnostics, atheists ,deists every once in a while you will see a religious argument between a christian and a anti theist blow up on here (usually because an anti theist will equate christianity with islam) but the bottom line is the EDL was formed to combat ISLAMIC radicalism and implementation of sharia law, with that being said their is an ongoing debate between many members on this forum about where the line is as far as should moderate muslims join etc.. The way i see it only a non practicing muslim would join the EDL if at all because islam is MORE THAN A RELIGION it is a way of life including domination of non muslim society kafir .....anyways i will stop for now i think i made my points. BTW i also am a YANK!
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| pete | Oct 22 2010, 08:24 AM Post #31 |
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Does the tea party face physical violence from the left and from the state at its rallys and demos? If so how does it combat it? |
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| 95kylejones | Oct 22 2010, 08:35 AM Post #32 |
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The WORD has to keep spreading - I'm sick of the daily sh1t we get in this country. Stay British all of you supporters! |
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| muzza86 | Oct 22 2010, 08:36 AM Post #33 |
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people are starting to wake up and sinse the leic demo ive had loads of people at work asking about the edl and what we stand for. and there eyes are open now to the evil that is islam. apart from the muslim teamleader who avoids me like the plague lol |
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| waspish | Oct 22 2010, 11:54 AM Post #34 |
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I work in the travel industry and i talk about the e.d.l every day to my commuters, they without a single exeption think we are doing a fine job. Ive advised people to look at the wab site and to look at all the u tube stuff. Pat condell goes down very well as he speaks the language o the everyday working man. Although I must admit I have had many people say thet the violent idiots that attend demos. we realy need to do more to out these morons from our ranks. |
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| LfcFanatic | Oct 22 2010, 12:03 PM Post #35 |
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The more that join the more that will spread the word, it's the old addage of I tell six friends, they tell six friends, etc. I'll take your 30.000 in 12 months and raise you to 50.000 minimum in 12 months or less :0) Geez if over a million people joined the 'sausage roll VS Cheryl Cole' page surely there's the same amount of Patriots out there waiting to be introduced to this forum. I had a think last night of all the friends and acquintances I've known over the past twenty years and their viewpoints and realised nearly every single one would support the EDL, same goes with family and collegues. That's a wide demographic of working class/middle class people from all walks of life who so far haven't been privy to what's out there. |
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"He that wishes to see his country robbed of its rights can not be a patriot". Samual Johnson "What is our policy?... To wage war against a monstrous tyranny, never surpassed in the dark lamentable catalogue of human crime. What is our aim?... Victory... Victory at all costs. Victory in spite of all terror. Victory, however long and hard the road may be. For without victory, there is no survival". Sir Winston Churchill. | |
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| littlejohn | Oct 22 2010, 06:55 PM Post #36 |
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I know LOADS of people who have never heard of the EDL YET. |
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| leicester-lad | Oct 22 2010, 07:46 PM Post #37 |
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| desade | Oct 22 2010, 11:57 PM Post #38 |
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J2897, My dear fellow and comrade, I suggest that you try telling a muslim that Islam is not a religion and see what reaction you get. Kimana1, With respect, the term "non practicing muslim" makes no sense to me at all. If you would also be a user of the phrase "moderate muslim", Then I recommend that you read The End of Faith by Sam Harris. It will open your mind. |
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| infideljay | Oct 22 2010, 11:59 PM Post #39 |
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No comrades I trust? |
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| desade | Oct 23 2010, 12:25 AM Post #40 |
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PS To all reading this, Sam Harris has a large number of vidios on you tube. His debates with muslims and others are a feast for the intellect. I wish that we all had his capacity for reason and eloquence. InfidelJay, Funny, but you know what I mean. Edited by desade, Oct 23 2010, 12:27 AM.
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| donsilbers | Oct 23 2010, 12:40 AM Post #41 |
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I hadn't heard of Sam Harris before, I shall check out his book and vids. I'm reading Mark Steyn's 'America Alone' which is a worthwhile read if rather alarming if his demographic statistics are correct. |
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| desade | Oct 23 2010, 02:04 AM Post #42 |
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Yes donsilbers, Mark Steyn paints a grim future if we do not stand firm, and allow ourselves to be overrun by the Islamists. But of course, we will do what must be done to defend western culture, by any means required. NS. Yes donsilbers, Mark Steyn paints a grim future if we do not stand firm, and allow ourselves to be overrun by the Islamists. But of course, we will do what must be done to defend western culture, by any means required. NS. Yes donsilbers, Mark Steyn paints a grim future if we do not stand firm, and allow ourselves to be overrun by the Islamists. But of course, we will do what must be done to defend western culture, by any means required. NS. Edited by desade, Oct 23 2010, 02:13 AM.
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| Deleted User | Oct 23 2010, 04:53 AM Post #43 |
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I've added an op-ed, as it were, to RS's 'tea-party ties' article. I think a tie would be constraining to the diversity of the EDL. If they hypothetically pump money into the EDL, who will then be pulling the strings? A nod and a wink in their direction with regards to preserving culture and standing against radical Islam is a good thing - I've stood with them on more than one demo, but a binding tie, in my judgement, would be too much. |
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| Parson-St-Station | Oct 24 2010, 06:31 AM Post #44 |
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Had an e-mail from Andrew lawton, who said Mark Steyn's speech would be up on you tube as soon as possible. Should be interesting. |
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| brianoflondon | Oct 24 2010, 06:56 AM Post #45 |
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They're armed and everybody knows it. Not all, and not always, but things just don't kick off when the people who are peacefully protesting can resist violence in deadly fashion. Don't believe Michael Moore's sh1te, there are good reasons for having guns in the hands of the law abiding people. |
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Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009. Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century. They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back. | |
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| pete | Oct 24 2010, 10:44 AM Post #46 |
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Thanks for the informative reply b-o-l, they even confiscate scarves over here now at demos. Might warm a uaf to death with it! |
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| pama45 | Oct 25 2010, 05:16 PM Post #47 |
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Whenever the media mention the EDL its always a far right fascist group. If that was the case i wouldnt be on here. The majority of friends and workmates agree with the EDL and what it stands for. And im talking of people from all diffrent backgrounds and nationalities. So onwards and upwards. Pama45
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