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Warsi rails against media Islamophobia
Topic Started: Sep 29 2010, 09:19 PM (286 Views)
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Warsi rails against media Islamophobia

The media in Britain has a "fair game" attitude to attacking the Muslim community, Sayeeda Warsi has claimed.

The extraordinary comments came in an interview for with the New Statesman, in which the Conservative chairman, the first Muslim woman to sit in Cabinet, also claimed the Tories had lost several seats at the election due to fraud.

"If you have a pop at the British Muslim community in the media, then first of all it will sell a few papers; second, it doesn't really matter; and third, it's fair game", she said.

Baroness Warsi said: "[There were] at least three seats where we lost, where we didn't gain the seat, based on electoral fraud. Now, could we have planned for that in the campaign? Absolutely not.

"It is predominantly within the Asian community. I have to look back and say we didn't do well in those communities, but was there something over and above that we could have done? Well, actually not, if there is going to be voter fraud."

When asked if Labour benefited from the supposed fraud, she replied: "Absolutely".

Election day was marred by large numbers of people being turned away from polling stations following instances of queuing and higher-than-expected turnout.

This is however the first time a Cabinet minister has directly blamed electoral fraud for failing to win seats.

Baroness Warsi staunchly defended the party's troubled director of communications, Andy Coulson, saying she had "a huge amount of time" for him.

The Tory chairman is in charge of the party's election strategy and expressed anxiety over how it would perform in local elections next year, in the midst of the government's impending cuts drive.

Admitting life would become electorally difficult for the coalition following the spending review, she said: "2011 is the year we would expect to lose some seats. It is the first year of government and we will have to make some difficult decisions."

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The media is not "Islamophobic". I think the Daily Mail and the Daily Express report on stories involving Muslims that other media wouldn't and she thinks it's "Islamophobia".

I consider the media blackout of certain events involving Muslims to be appeasement, which is a more important issue than what "Islamophobia" is.
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hardly surprising really that it was in an interview for the New Statesman that Baroness Warsi was highlighted as saying the media is full of Islamaphobia as the Political Editor of New Statesman, Mehdi Hasan, is about as militant a Muslim as they come.

Nor is it news that there's election fraud in the Muslim community that benefits Labour. The only scandal is that nothing appears to be being done about it
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I think she tries her best, poor girl (sigh) but she's in no-mans land. Fair enough, it's her choice and I can repect her for that.

Last contract I took in Saudi we had a white English muslim (UK ex-pat) and his position was just as difficult. Local muzzies didn't trust him because he was not an arab or asian so they shunned him and, likewise, his fellow europeans left him in isolation because they regarded him with suspicion. He only stayed a year.

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"Islamophobia" is pop psychology. Any journalist who uses the term in any seriousness should be sacked. It shows gross incompetence.

It's a term that's only used by muslims and the enablers of sharia so they don't have to discuss the details concerning islam.

The Muslim Debate Initiative had a training session in Luton last Saturday. That they are now openly holding training sessions so that young muslims can try to debate the critics of islam shows they are on the run.

Of course, the MDI will be funded by the millions in anti-terrorism funds that the last government threw at any muslim organisation that fell short of issuing its members with firearms and explosives.
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Would anybody out there give her one?
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I think she's right, I mean look at all them headlines about muslims burning the american and british flag on 9/11 and mac with the loud anti pope protest with death threats. Oh hang on.

But on a serious note, as much as I fancy asian girls no shelfside she too old for me
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Sep 30 2010, 12:09 AM
Would anybody out there give her one?

Well, well Shelfside - someone had to lower the tone, didn't they??? :D

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Sep 30 2010, 12:33 AM
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Sep 30 2010, 12:09 AM
Would anybody out there give her one?

Well, well Shelfside - someone had to lower the tone, didn't they??? :D

I know, but it is late and she´s NOT that bad. Sexist comment I appreciate that.
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Sep 30 2010, 12:37 AM
.... and she´s NOT that bad.

B....B......But she's...(gulp!)..........she's, y'know.............well, that's to say...........GINGER!!! :D :D :D

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If anyone is ever interviewed and the accusation of "islamophobia" comes up, ask the interviewer "Have you read the Koran, have you read the Life of Mohammed"? And if the answer is "no", then ask them if they've got someone who's sufficiently knowledgable about islam who can conduct the interview.
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Sep 30 2010, 12:09 AM
Would anybody out there give her one?
A what? A plane ticket? Bacon sandwich?
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She recently got attacked by Islamist loons. Now she's proving her Islamic credentials.

'Islamophobia'? I've heard that word before somewhere.
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If only more muslims were as educated and enlightened as Warsi, even if she does fling the phrase Islamophobia around. In my opinion her Islam is the type that needs to dominate in her community if the radicals are to be marginalised. I believe it is Muslims like her that are leaders in resisting radical influence - positive role models for young uk muslims.
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There is no such thing as Islamophobia.Its not possible to have a phobia for a religous or politcal ideology.Have you ever heard of anyone suffering from Naziophobia or New Labourophobia? Just an idiotic sound bite created by a politcally correct journalist.
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Sep 30 2010, 11:57 AM
There is no such thing as Islamophobia.Its not possible to have a phobia for a religous or politcal ideology.Have you ever heard of anyone suffering from Naziophobia or New Labourophobia? Just an idiotic sound bite created by a politcally correct journalist.
But is a perceived reality today.

How do we get this ridiculous and emotive word out of everyday life? We can´t unfortunately.
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Sep 30 2010, 12:06 PM
But is a perceived reality today.

How do we get this ridiculous and emotive word out of everyday life? We can´t unfortunately.
By ridiculing the people who use it.

It's an attempt to stop anyone critcising islam, a cult which calls for the death & subjugation of non-muslims.

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Sep 30 2010, 12:06 PM
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Sep 30 2010, 11:57 AM
There is no such thing as Islamophobia.Its not possible to have a phobia for a religous or politcal ideology.Have you ever heard of anyone suffering from Naziophobia or New Labourophobia? Just an idiotic sound bite created by a politcally correct journalist.
But is a perceived reality today.

How do we get this ridiculous and emotive word out of everyday life? We can´t unfortunately.
By stopping anyone using it mid-sentence and asking them to define it.We would then find the real description is "concerned" and that would be seen as far more reasonable.I am concerned about the rise of polical Islam and want legisaltion put in place to combat it.If I had a phobia about it I would be setting fire to mosques and attacking women who wear the burka.
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Oh dearie me.
Muslims complaining about islamophobia anyone?
http://abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&Id=206815

Gheit called for western governments to take action, including passing laws.

“We call upon all countries and especially governments, to assume their responsibility to confront the spectre of a dreadful religious and civilization clash.”

King Abdullah II of Jordan said it is “essential to resist forces of division that spread misunderstanding.” He called for an annual World Interfaith Harmony Week to promote tolerance.

Malaysia’s Prime Minister Najib Razak told the UN assembly that the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims were offended by “attempts to demonize Islam.”

He added: “It intensifies the divide between the broad Muslim world and the West.”

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Sep 30 2010, 12:50 PM
Malaysia’s Prime Minister Najib Razak told the UN assembly that the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims were offended by “attempts to demonize Islam.”

He added: “It intensifies the divide between the broad Muslim world and the West.”
Islam demonizes itself.

The Koran talks of killing unbelievers wherever you find them. It talks of Mohammed using terrorism as a good thing.

We didn't turn and start criticising islam for 20 years after they'd attacked Salman Rushdie. We didn't turn on islam even after 9/11/2001, or even after the 7/7 bombings.

As I was having my eyes opened to islam last year I kept disbelieving the things I was reading - about religious leaders ensuring men can marry young girls in this day and age, about muslims being 3% of the population and upto 14% of the prison population, about the thousands of British girls being sexually mutilated by their parents....

How can you demonize that? I wanted to believe the best of muslims, and blinkered myself for the past 30 years.

I notice he says nothing about the divide between the East and muslims. Because he knows full well that he only idiots who can be guilt-tripped into tolerating islam and the stupid liberals/christians.

The Indians and the Chinese fully understand islam.
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Sep 30 2010, 12:44 PM
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Sep 30 2010, 12:06 PM
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Sep 30 2010, 11:57 AM
There is no such thing as Islamophobia.Its not possible to have a phobia for a religous or politcal ideology.Have you ever heard of anyone suffering from Naziophobia or New Labourophobia? Just an idiotic sound bite created by a politcally correct journalist.
But is a perceived reality today.

How do we get this ridiculous and emotive word out of everyday life? We can´t unfortunately.
By stopping anyone using it mid-sentence and asking them to define it.We would then find the real description is "concerned" and that would be seen as far more reasonable.I am concerned about the rise of polical Islam and want legisaltion put in place to combat it.If I had a phobia about it I would be setting fire to mosques and attacking women who wear the burka.
But how? That was and still is my question - one you cannot answer.
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Define what Islamophobia is? That's the simplest way of getting it out of the language. Let's face it, it's just a label used to stifle any discussion or debate. E.g. Your an Islamophobe which means you have an irrational fear of Islam therefore you are not in a position to discuss it. However, the irrational bit is the part which causes the whole 'edifice' of labelling down. Something that is not rational is something that has no foundation upon reason or logic. If I've studied Islam and know it to be a hate-filled, bigotted, racist, murderous ideology, then it's based on rational thinking and logic. It might be ill-placed logic etc but it's rational.
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The only people that suffer from "Islamophobia" are Muslims.
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Sep 30 2010, 02:11 PM
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Sep 30 2010, 12:44 PM
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By stopping anyone using it mid-sentence and asking them to define it.We would then find the real description is "concerned" and that would be seen as far more reasonable.I am concerned about the rise of polical Islam and want legisaltion put in place to combat it.If I had a phobia about it I would be setting fire to mosques and attacking women who wear the burka.
But how? That was and still is my question - one you cannot answer.
Every time you take on the debate on their terms i.e. that there is some psychological condition called "islamophobia" which is an irrational fear of muslims, you are putting yourself at a disadvantage.

Ask them for the authoritative works in psychiatry that document this condition, whether or not it is genetic/acquired, what pharmaceuticals are prescribed for it. Do the people with this condition qualify for disability benefit (people with panic attacks or anxiety disorders qualify, and alcoholics qualify).

Ask them if they really want to go down that route. Because if islamophobia is a mental condition, as some argued homophobia was, it can result in people who kill muslims getting much lighter sentencing. That's what happened when some of the murderers of gay people claimed their homophobia was a mental disability - they got off lightly with murder.

Or just tell them that if they haven't got a degree in psychiatry they are exercising pop psychology and they should grow up.
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The real Warsi:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/3327293/1/
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How about Norsheen Bhatti the tory Asian belly dancer.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/12/28/tory-hopeful-norsheen-bhatti-revealed-as-260-an-hour-belly-dancer-115875-21928398/
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Sep 30 2010, 12:06 PM
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Sep 30 2010, 11:57 AM
There is no such thing as Islamophobia.Its not possible to have a phobia for a religous or politcal ideology.Have you ever heard of anyone suffering from Naziophobia or New Labourophobia? Just an idiotic sound bite created by a politcally correct journalist.
But is a perceived reality today.

How do we get this ridiculous and emotive word out of everyday life? We can´t unfortunately.
I don't think we'll ever get rid of this word so I say as the media seem to think this is a valid word we should start using a word that applies to the extremist muslims, UAF, SWP & our British media ANGLOPHOBIA!!

I say we start a campaign to have ANGLOPHOBIA added to the English Oxford dictionary
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