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Harrow Council urges schools to consider non-Halal meat option!; A turning point?
Topic Started: Sep 29 2010, 08:28 PM (315 Views)
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Harrow Council urges schools to consider non-Halal meat option

4:37pm Wednesday 29th September 2010



HARROW Council has urged all headteachers in the borough to consider a non-Halal meat option in schools. Angry parents and religious leaders have accused schools of ignoring the rights of non-Muslim parents and their children by making Halal the only meat option in secondary schools.

The council, as the education authority, has soaked up much of the criticism despite saying it has no power over what schools serve at lunch.

Heather Clements, director for schools and children's development, said: “It is clear that the use of Halal meat in schools is concerning a number of our residents and we recently met with Harrow’s Interfaith Council to make sure we fully understood the issues."

“While it is ultimately a decision for schools to choose their catering contractor, Councillor Brian Gate, responsible for schools and colleges, has written to all headteachers in Harrow and urged them, as key community leaders, to respect and recognise the views of the whole community.

“That means giving serious consideration to offering an alternative menu with non-Halal meat, which offers choice to all faith and interest groups."

“This will help schools focus on ensuring that all children across Harrow have access to healthy and nutritious school meals.”

Harrow Interfaith Council took a stand against the policy in September, warning that some mothers and fathers were even considering taking their children out of schools.

Sikh representative Paramjit Singh Kohli announced the launch of a petition over the policy last week, and said he will try to collect as many as 2m signatures from across the UK.

Schools also provide vegetarian and fish options but those who oppose the scheme say this is not enough.

Mr Kohli told the Harrow Times in September: “Fish and vegetarian dishes are not the alternative, the alternative is non-halal meat. Those dishes are for the people who are vegetarian and vegan.”

Harrow Central Mosque did not back the decision, saying it was grateful for the Halal option but other faith groups should be considered as well.

Ghulam Rabbani said he was concerned people might think the council was doing favours for the Muslim community.




http://www.harrowtimes.co.uk/news/8421942.Council_urges_schools_to_consider_non_Halal_option/
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Sikh representative Paramjit Singh Kohli announced the launch of a petition over the policy last week, and said he will try to collect as many as 2m signatures from across the UK.

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I googled Paramjit's name to find this petition but no luck. Any know where to find it?
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Great stuff, im proud as a British Asian that those of us from the Sikh and Hindu community dont like to take crap from supremascists. Alot of folks from these religions are already aware of the dangers that seperatism poses to any country when its imposed on the public by extremists who want to dominate.

Thie sikh dude sounds like a top guy, im THRILLED to hear that they will get off their arses and do things about it. Hope more people around this great country will learn from them.

Thanks for this story, just made my day! :)
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Sep 30 2010, 01:20 AM
I googled Paramjit's name to find this petition but no luck. Any know where to find it?

As far as I can remember this is the one but feel free to google something like:

petition, +halal


http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/halalslaughter/#detail
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Has anyone read the second comment under the article?

Iftikhar_Ahmad, Forest GateLondon says...
11:12pm Wed 29 Sep 10

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All children should be offered a choice. That way Muslims can eat what they want and non-Muslims can eat what they want.

There are couples of state schools in Harrow where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies so that non-Muslim children could enjoy their own meals in their own schools.

We live in a shrunken world and millions of people are on the move; one of our biggest challenges is how we learn to live in proximity to difference – different skin colours, different beliefs and different way of life. According to a study by COMPAS, Muslims born and educated were given the impression of outsiders. The perception among Muslims is that they are unwelcome in Britain is undermining efforts to help them integrate into wider society. Most of them say that they have experienced race discrimination and religious prejudice. Muslims and Islam is promoted a fundamentalist and separatist by the western elite, which have negative impact on community and social cohesion. The number of racist incidents occurring in London Borough of Redbridge’s schools have reached their highest levels since record begin.

A City or a locality, where Muslims are in majority is a ghetto. There is a tendency for people of similar backgrounds to live together in neighourhoods. The term”ghettoisation
” is inappropriate. The original ghettos in Europe during the middle ages were set up by law to confine the Jewish population to one area of a city. According to a research by an Australian academic that Muslim communities in Britain are being increasingly ghettoized in a trend that set back hopes of assimilation by years. Britain has now eight cities in the top 100 most ghettoized cities. The people from the Pakistani community in Bradford and Oldham and Leicester had trebled during the decade. A report by an academic Dr Alan Carling, that Bradford risks becoming a front line in the global clash between the West and Islam. But Islam and Muslims do not clash with the concepts of pluralism, secularism and globalisation. The native flight from Bradford’s inner-city wards showed clear evidence of an increase in segregation in the city since 1991. Native parents are avoiding sending their children in state schools where Muslims and other minorities are in majority. The dominance of Pakistani Muslims in the city has meant that Bradford has become bi-cultural.

Immigrants are the creators of Britain new wealth, otherwise, inner cities deprived areas could not get new lease of life. The native Brits regard such areas as ghettoes. Integration is not religious and cultural, it is economic and Muslims are well integrated into British society and at the same time they are proud of their Islamic, linguistic and cultural identities, inspite of discrimination they have been facing in all walks of life. According to UN, 80% of British Muslims feel discriminated. They are less burden on social services. Immigrants made up 8.7% of the population, but accounted for10.2% of all collected income tax

It is often quoted by the Western media that Muslim schools ghettoizse the children, and even lead to their radicalisation if they are not integrated. There is no evidence that faith schools lead to a “ghettoized education system. In British schools, pupils are encouraged to focus too much on their similarities rather than their differences. The integrationist approach merely results in Muslims feeling that their faith, language and culture is not respected.

A report by the Institute for Community Cohesion found that native parents were deserting some schools after finding their children out numbered by pupils from ethnic minorities. Schools in parts of England are becoming increasingly segregated. The study focused on 13 local authorities. Many of the schools and colleges are segregated and this was generally worsening over recent years. This is RACISM because British society is the home of institutional racism. My statement regarding Muslim schools where there is no place for non-Muslim child or a teacher is based on educational process and not on racism. Muslim children need Muslim teachers during their developmental periods. For higher studies and reserech, Muslim teacher is not a priority.
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Surely the alternative menu should be the one with halal food on, i thought they were integrating with us not we change our way of life to suit, then have to fight to get back what we've lost, i can't wait for people in this country to grow a pair!
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Sep 30 2010, 08:16 AM
Has anyone read the second comment under the article?

As best as my memory serves me, the basis of the arguement put forward by muslims related to their 'freedon to practice their religion', halal products being a part of that. BUT, (and don't quote me verbatum on this 'cos I'm an A1+ 5* Atheist of the highest order) christians also have the same right to freedom of religion and their religious book stses that their food should not be offered to a false god (corinthians?). So both groups have the same arguement from opposing perspectives. Easy: halal for halal folk and non-halal for non-halal folk.

Problems only then begin! Muslims may handle pork products and are unlikely to use the same food preparation areas, rendering plants etc. so there may be financial implications for (possibly) more than one source of halal/non-halal products and the employment of cooks, cleaners & food srvers etc.

At the end of the day, if the decision has been made on religious grounds - why was it made in the favour of the absolute minority? That is a part of what the fuss is about (there's more!).
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Interesting tax statistics. Shame they forgot the little things such as adjusting tax take according to age of population. The immigrant population is young so more likely to be working. But they have failed to factor in costs of translators, printing everything in different languages, put a monetary value on the impact that an influx of immigrant children has on schools, how many are in social housing, what is the cost of that and so on and so on.
It is a baseless statistic that ignores so many factors that I believe it hides the fact that this is a net cost to the UK not the other way around.
The last time I looked at the statistics unemployment amongst pakistanis was by far the highest in the country and educational achievement the lowest. What is the current and projected cost to the welfare state of that?
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Sep 30 2010, 08:25 AM
Surely the alternative menu should be the one with halal food on, i thought they were integrating with us not we change our way of life to suit, then have to fight to get back what we've lost, i can't wait for people in this country to grow a pair!
your right it takes the piss. it makes me so angry. I want to stop these bastards in their tracks. but nothing can be said here about what I would really like to do and see happen. we can't fcuking take this sh1t. enough is enough. how the hell can we expect our children to eat their nasty fcuking meat. this is bullsh1t. you can't measure my fury right now. they want to talk about crusades! they think they are fearless warriors of god, I tell you. we could put the fear in them. they area bunch of cowards. why do we give them a single cm? they're in our country. they think they can do what they want and their will be no consequences? 'we should give them the the keys to the kingdom' evict the queen, hand it over to a imam. put a minaret on buckingham palace. why we're at it make chains and wear em.' thanks Christine. it was a bit much on my part. just furious. sorry.
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