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| New Report: Debunking the ‘Islamisation’ Myth; Edmund Standing | |
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| Deleted User | Sep 29 2010, 10:54 AM Post #1 |
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New Report: Debunking the ‘Islamisation’ Myth Edmund Standing Summary: In the post-9/11 West, we have seen the worrying growth of a paranoid, bigoted approach to Muslims which increasingly views them as an undifferentiated mass, as an inherent Other, and as a powerful fifth column conspiring to destroy the West and enslave it to Sharia law. Islam has invaded our culture, Muslims are on the verge of taking over Britain and creating an Islamic State. ‘Islamisation’ surrounds us, creeping Sharia is upon us. For many people today, such notions form an integral part of their world-view, but are they grounded in reality? In this report, I seek to counter the arguments of the proponents of the notion of ‘Islamisation’ by comparing these messages of doom with the reality of the situation in Britain today. I argue that the ‘Islamisation’ myth is a myth precisely because it is simply isn’t based on credible evidence. In Britain, militant anti-Muslim bigotry has now reared its head in the form of the English Defence League, an organisation founded with the explicit aim of combating ‘Islamisation’. The EDL is an organisation that has been set up to fight a mythical enemy and, in failing to find this enemy, it seems inevitable that the next phase of the campaign will be to target Muslims as a whole, and there are strong indications that this is already happening. The ‘Islamisation’ myth is a dangerous myth, and a myth that must be repudiated if we are to develop as a nation and articulate a positive vision for the future. link http://hurryupharry.org/2010/09/20/new-report-debunking-the-islamisation-myth/ |
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| Disenfranchised Briton | Sep 29 2010, 11:04 AM Post #2 |
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OK it's a myth. So when you walk around Tower Hamlets or parts of Birmingham or Luton it is no different to how it was 40 years ago. Nothing has changed, not the language being spoken, the number of churches, the number of mosques, the proliferation of "islamic" focused shops and centres. Nope nothing has changed. Nothing at all. Nothing to see here.... Enoch Powell was ridiculed for his warning. If he had been able to show people the future then who would have opposed him back then? If the people of that day could see today and were given a choice who would have chosen what we have now? We are told we have ALWAYS been this tolerant multicultural nation. That is bollocks. There is no way that the change that we have had forced upon us would have been accepted by our forefathers. It has been a gradual drip, drip, drip and it's been so slow that hardly anyone no-one noticed and no-one heeded the warnings of those who did notice. Now the rate of change is accelerating and everyone is beginning to notice. |
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| L4E | Sep 29 2010, 11:12 AM Post #3 |
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Second sentence of the PREFACE? Quote - I also have no time for those who seek to ‘understand’ Islamism or downplay the abhorrent nature of religious fascism. So in a report which is supposed to debunk the myth, he is basically admitting hedoesn't want to find out about Islam. How can you possibly comment on a subject if you don't know about the subject. Of course I haven't read the whole doc, but that line just threw me. |
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| Deleted User | Sep 29 2010, 11:50 AM Post #4 |
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PHWEUW, it's only a myth - that's all right then, I starting to get worried. |
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| Deleted User | Sep 29 2010, 12:10 PM Post #5 |
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If that's a myth then this is a fairytale... http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/muslim-street-jihad.html |
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| Deleted User | Sep 29 2010, 12:18 PM Post #6 |
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Good link, @Bamiyan, it's almost soul destroying to read those reports of attacks by muslim gangs. What on earth have the government allowed the EU to do to us? History will forever condemn them. |
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| Defendz | Sep 29 2010, 12:46 PM Post #7 |
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Just had a look through it and its just totally cherry picking facts to argue against, refusing to acknowledge the trends around the country. |
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| L4E | Sep 29 2010, 12:52 PM Post #8 |
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Just read this research. What a joke. That isn't even BSc level. It's pathetic. Every reference is an internet source. He has not once researched what islam teaches. NOT ONCE. How can you comment on an organisations motivations without knowing what they are. Astonishing. He says islam is not influential in the UK, but fails to recognise or mention the influencial sympathisers that islam has??? He actually tried to suggest 32% of a poll of islamists was a low number in relation to those that want to see an END to the decadent UK. So 1 in 3 islamists admitted 5 years ago, in a public poll (potentially to a white researcher, I suggest) that they want to see the UK die. Yeah thats a low number, you pr1ck. Thats an alarmingly high number considering Taqiyya, which he will also know nothing about. That is a sh1t study, a complete waste of time, which didn't and couldn't prove anything. |
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| Deleted User | Sep 29 2010, 02:11 PM Post #9 |
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No. There's no islamisation going on. The 2007 survey documented on the BBC's website showed that the younger generation of muslims in the UK are 3x more fundamentalist than their parents. The Racial and Religious Hatred Act (2006) was designed to specifically protect islam from criticism. The free speech protection was put in at the insistence of the House of Lords. In 2005 11% of all meat in the UK was halal, despite muslims being officially less than 3% of the population. Whilst even in Tower Hamlets muslims are supposed to be a minority, they occupy the majority of council positions. Hizb ut Tahrir has thousands of British muslims at their annual conferences (far more than the BNP gets at their conferences). HuT is specifically a fascist party that would outlaw democracy and install a dictator. Non-muslims would be discriminated against at all levels of government. Muslims already get preferential treatment. The police attack demos of non-muslims using riot police, yet they run away from muslim demos. All of this is on video. Muslims can burn the Union Jack and the police do nothing. Police try to stop EDL from burning the Islamic Flag of War. Muslims can should 'rapist' and 'baby killer' at our soldiers and receive no prosecution. Patriots who should 'scum' at the muslims are successfully prosecuted. The government and the media have concealed for years that muslims are massively over-represented in the prison population. Yet we get fed the lie that they are far more law-abiding than everyone else. Shahid Malik MP was recorded on video addressing a conference and pointing out a timeline by which muslims would have taken over Parliament and have a muslim Prime Minister. The convicted criminal Lord Ahmed was able to threaten an insurrection by 10,000 muslims to prevent an elected MEP visiting the UK. No charges were brought against him. The planning laws allow muslims to take over community centres and turn them into mosques, with no need for a planning application. Muslims make full use of this. The majority of Pakistanis and Bangladeshis in the UK import a spouse from their "home" country (i.e. the UK is not their "home" country). Twice in 2010 muslim fanatics staged demonstrations against Gay Pride marches. The UAF knew of this before the muslim fanatics staged their demos, but did nothing about it. The UAF and the left never voice any protest at the existence of HuT or at their recurring conferences. Even islamo-fascism gets preferential treatment over common or garden fascism! No. There's no islamisation going on. |
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