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| Sweden joins Europe-wide backlash; against immigration | |
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| englandman | Sep 26 2010, 10:45 AM Post #1 |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/24/sweden-immigration-far-right-asylum First off i am real sorry to go to the sh1te paper online, the only reason I looked at this is because it's on the david icke's website, thought hmm. from the article \/ In a country that elevated social democracy into the natural form of government for decades, Maria has been a loyal stalwart. The 66-year-old retired canteen worker has always voted for Sweden's Social Democratic party, like the vast majority in her working-class suburb of Malmo. Until last Sunday, that is. That morning Maria broke the habit of a lifetime and in doing so helped redraw the map of Swedish politics. She voted for an extreme-right movement accused of being Islamophobic that broke into parliament in Stockholm for the first time, probably condemning the country to a fragile minority government. She was not alone. In Maria's high-rise suburb of Almgården an astonishing one in three voted for Sweden Democrats, a party dubbed "racist and neo-Nazi" and led by Jimmie Åkesson, the new young darling of the European far right. The reason is plain. Maria pointed across the dual carriageway to the neighbouring housing scheme of Rosengård, known locally as "the ghetto". It is home to almost 20,000 immigrants, overwhelmingly Muslim, almost half of them jobless. It appeas even the liberals have had enough, trouble in paradise
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| "Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." George Orwell | |
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| Deleted User | Sep 26 2010, 10:51 AM Post #2 |
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Another sign that Europe is on the very brink of something big. At this rate we will be late for the party; where are our electable politicians? |
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| englandman | Sep 26 2010, 10:54 AM Post #3 |
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could you elaborate on that please. |
| "Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." George Orwell | |
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| tobias malachi | Sep 26 2010, 10:55 AM Post #4 |
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Well done Maria and all the others that have awakened to the danger that we face |
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| English Angel | Sep 26 2010, 11:06 AM Post #5 |
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totally agree, theres no one here we can get behind that feels like they will deal with it. Just watched Medhi Hasan on BBC1 defending muslims against 'constant criticism' and 'Islamaphopia'. Stephen Green from Christian Voice said that Islam was attempting to fill the religious void in our secular society, to which Hasan was scathing and dismissive. Hasan, as the political editor of New Statesman represents the very thing we're talking about.. insiduous infiltration into the Establishment where they can spout their bias from the cover of respectability. Personally, I cant stand the man, that having been said, he got walloped on Question Time by John Redwood and the editor of Private Eye Ian Hislop. Good! |
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| Deleted User | Sep 26 2010, 11:15 AM Post #6 |
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People are pissed off, as these developments show. Some say you shouldn't blame the people as it's the politicians who allow(ed) this to happen, but if people refuse to intergrate the local population will take note and react. Immigration is happening at to fast a rate and people are very very pissed off, europe is a ticking time bomb. |
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| Deleted User | Sep 26 2010, 11:24 AM Post #7 |
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Other countries have an alternative to vote for, someone who represents their concerns about creeping islamification but we don't have anyone, they all sing from the same hymn sheet here.
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| darren68 | Sep 26 2010, 11:33 AM Post #8 |
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EDL in no 10 |
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| The Brown Trout | Sep 26 2010, 11:43 AM Post #9 |
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Theres no one on the horizon neither. I suppose it's only a matter of time before we do get a figure like Wilders, and a party to suit, but until then................... |
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No-one, not one, gives you the right to tell anyone, not anyone, what to believe in, As long as I've got a hole in my arse, I will fight for that right. | |
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| English Angel | Sep 26 2010, 12:41 PM Post #10 |
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....................here WE are! |
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| Aeneas Lavinium | Sep 26 2010, 12:56 PM Post #11 |
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Sweden Democrats are not right wing Nazis. They are on the right of Swedish politics but the political spectrum in Sweden is so far to the left that you can be right wing and still be a socialist. I have met some Swedish Democrat people including Kent Ekeroth and they a ordinary decent people. Kent appeared on Channel 4 (see vid below) after the Sweden Democrat election success: |
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| englandman | Sep 26 2010, 12:57 PM Post #12 |
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good point! cheers ruby, just to early for my brain. |
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| stevenp | Sep 26 2010, 01:08 PM Post #13 |
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its like christmas to me everytime i hear of our brothers in europe standing up against this onslaught.its really makes my day ....now im happy thank you |
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| Aeneas Lavinium | Sep 26 2010, 01:42 PM Post #14 |
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Our election system makes true democracy impossible because it is very difficult to loosen the grip of the establishment parties. I hope we can have a British Freedom Party up and running as soon as possible (i.e. a sister party to Wilders' party). |
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| Deleted User | Sep 26 2010, 02:09 PM Post #15 |
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Oh my, how true and sweet those words are!
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| Janina Sobieski | Sep 26 2010, 02:29 PM Post #16 |
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It's also because our voting system, our parliamentary system and our party system make it almost impossible for any non-mainstream party to get a hold. Most European parties are elected under a form of proportional representation, which means that seats are allocated by the amount of votes gained, while for us it's First-Past-The-Post where they just need a majority in a constituency to get the seat, and over half of the seats to be in government. This means they don't need a majority of votes, just a majority in key constituencies. And, once they get in government, Party whips make sure that all the MPs follow the party line, meaning the actual power in the country is concentrated on about a dozen individuals. While in Europe often no party gets a majority, so they have to form coalitions and work with each other to get things done. This means that parties like Geert Wilders PVV don't actually need to get a majority, they just need to get into bed with some parties willing to compromise on issues that the PVV hold dear. This all means that a theoretical British Freedom Party would fail miserably- firstly the theoretical BFP voters wouldn't be concentrated enough to gain seats, then if they gained seats it wouldn't be enough to have a majority, and even in the unlikely event of a hung parliament and forming a coalition, they wouldn't be able to get their vocie heard since, like we're seeing now with the Con-Dem pact, the larger party drowns out the smaller party. Pretty much the only way the EDL will get its voice heard is by pressurising the government into answering our grievances, and even then they'd probably water it down so much to be pointless. I guess the only foolproof way would be to either have some very rich EDL supporter start funding the governing party, or do a stint like the Unions and make it clear that if the ruling party doesn't listen they won't be able to run the country anymore. |
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