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British Attack Level Threat Raised; from `Irish related terrorism`
Topic Started: Sep 24 2010, 04:08 PM (396 Views)
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http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/media-centre/news/terrorist-threat (Cheers ArmyPatriot For Link)


Breaking on Sky:

British attack level has been raised from Moderate to Substantial - this is from Irish Related Terrorism.


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I hope not mj, I really do
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http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/media-centre/news/terrorist-threat maybe a threat...
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I think the IRA will one day be fighting off Extreme Islamist, just like us!
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Well maybe someone should maipulate hadji into hateing on Seamus. If you are really clever you would toss in the "commie youth" a little menage a tois for the uni set

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"This is the first time we have published the Irish-related threat assessment to Great Britain".

Interesting. I was wondering how they would refer to IRA terrorism or Basque terrorism in these Politically Correct days.

Now that the government is openly talking about "irish-related terrorism", let's not given them the chance to weasel out of talking about "muslim-related terrorism".

So much for them saying that "they're not muslim terrorist, they're just terrorists".


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and here we go - the government thinks it's OK to stigmatise Irish people by talking about "irish-related terrorism", but it's not ok to tell the truth about muslims (see JPG).

Most of the muslim terrorists in Britain are NOT international - they are British-born. In fact, there's a better argument for referring to Irish terrorists as "international"!

Welcome to WonderLand....

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/counter-terrorism/current-threat-level/
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I must confess that I thought this was dead and buried. What exactly are they going to attack us for now?
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What's the fuss? The threat from Irish terrorism is still lower than that from international terrorism. So the overall threat level remains the same.

From the Home Office statement:
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The threat from international terrorism remains severe.


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BS? These are just an 'out-on-a-limb' thoughts. I am not, of course, saying these forms of terrorism don't exist, nor am I making light of them. I just don't trust the fcuking government!

#1 There have been many stories about how Islamic Terrorism is still popular and being planned within the UK. Doesn't look good for the Muslim bloc. We get more support out of it which means the government look bad for supporting the growth of Islam.
Claim Irish Terrorism alert - diverts the focus on the Islamists and maybe our attentions elsewhere. If we don't set up an EDL to protest IRA terrorism, then people will wonder why not and are we 'being prejudiced' against Islamists?

The difference is, however, that we do not have segregated Irish blocs in this country that are harbouring terrorists. They mainly come from abroad (Ireland).

We are right in protesting Islamic Extremism on the streets of Britain, while, against Irish Extremism, any protests would be taken to the Irish Embassy.


#2 The government are continuing with creating the totalitarian police state. Using Islamic terrorism to scare the public and to enforce draconian laws isn't PC anymore, so use Irish terrorism instead.


I sincerely hope nothing occurs and the warnings are just that. Would hate to see a new campaign started. Frightening.
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It wouldnt surprize me in the future to see Islamic and Irish republican terrorists helping each other out some time down the line, supported by left wing English and British traitors. They all seem to wank themselves off everytime a British soldiers killed. Take that recent post which showed a photo with 4 cock-heads on, there bedroom wall had an Irish tricolour flag on and a Palestinain flag on which obviously show where there loyalties lie.
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Where is the law that was enacted to prevent criticism of republicanism, or of nationalist sentiment? The government introduced a law to protect islam from criticism in response to the London bombings:

http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?activeTextDocId=2320532

If it wasn't for the House of Lords that piece of legislation would not have contained any clause protecting freedom of speech.

That's how far the MPs and the media have got their heads up their own arses.
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The government threatens to cut back police numbers; Irish threat level raised. Fancy that.
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Ruby spot on, also don't forget that anti social behaviour will be on the rise too just before budget cuts.
Edited by Wigone, Sep 24 2010, 06:55 PM.
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What happened when Islam bombed the towers, We invaded Afghanistan, Well if these bomb us i hope we invade Ireland, If we didn't we would by hypocrits.
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British Citizens are under nightly attack from Militant Irish republicans, I have friends on Londonderrys fountain estate that can confirm this. And their are many other areas in Ulster who are suffering the same fate.

Anyone who wants to hear how these scum think and what they think about Britian watch this vid from channel 4 news this week.

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/militant+republicanism+on+rise+in+northern+ireland/3772177
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More innocent British people will die, everytime the IRA set off a bomb in London we should reply with 10 bombs on Dublin courtesy of the RAF. Fenian scum.
“Live thou for England. We for England died”
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What's 'Fenian'?
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Sep 24 2010, 07:47 PM
What's 'Fenian'?
A derogatory term for shall we say "dissident Republicans".
“Live thou for England. We for England died”
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fcuk England is fcuked from all sides.
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“I wouldn’t be surprised if the IRA was itself the greatest protection against Muslim terrorism in Ireland.”

I doubt it.

Al-Qaeda is much better organized than the IRA and they have vastly more resources, worlwide. It may be the other way around where A.Q. allows the IRA to co-exist in order to augment future terror and mayhem.

Yep Just like in the good old Gaddafi days
“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”

– Houari (Mohamed) Boumedienne, President of Algeria, 1965 – 1978, in a 1974 speech at the UN

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Did they not have blue paintballs to fire at that mural? Would've been quite symbolic! ;)
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Let's not forget that the Irish v English situation is NOTHING like the Islam v English situation.
The Irish have been fighting for independence from the UK since Cromwell was in knee socks. Yes, there's a religious flavour to the fight, ie Cathoic v Protestant, but the reality is that it's an independence fight more than anything.
Islam v the West is a whole other kettle of fish.

All terrorism is bad. But, ask yourselves this ''If Saudi invaded England, would you be a terrorist? I would.
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Firstly, the Fenians were a bunch of Irish terrorists (or should that be freedom fighters) and secondly, the Irish are not fighting for independence from the UK because they already have it and have had since the 1920's. What the IRA and the other Republicans are fighting us is to unite the North with the South under a socialist government. And as the lads from Ulster can tell us republican justice is not very nice and not very legal. Human rights don't even enter it!
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it's island versus island. ie, Ireland versus The Bigger Island.
Just as if an Islamic country took over Wales. Scotland and England would unite to form what passes as a socialist force to reunite all of the island back uner one banner.
The problem arises because Ireland is an island. It has defined coastal boundaries that are different to those of England/Scotland/Wales. It is more of an afront to territorial pride than if someone invades from within your boundaries.


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Would it have to be a 'socialist force'?
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Sep 24 2010, 09:08 PM
Would it have to be a 'socialist force'?
not necessarily. But it'd be a good start. An US v THEM force, maybe a national socialist force.

It'd have to be a force that identifies who the ''enemy'' is nice and clearly.
What better force than a socialist force. ie, the oppressed v the oppressors.
Just like the islamists are sleeping with the socialists in the here and now, because it suits their agenda, so a nationalist force could use socialism to fan the flames of indignation as it suits them.
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ive seen that video that i was on the link above young kids that are brainwashed wi all this crap about a untied ireland
Edited by leasky33, Sep 24 2010, 09:35 PM.
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Sep 24 2010, 09:27 PM
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Would it have to be a 'socialist force'?
not necessarily. But it'd be a good start. An US v THEM force, maybe a national socialist force.

It'd have to be a force that identifies who the ''enemy'' is nice and clearly.
What better force than a socialist force. ie, the oppressed v the oppressors.
Just like the islamists are sleeping with the socialists in the here and now, because it suits their agenda, so a nationalist force could use socialism to fan the flames of indignation as it suits them.
I'm kinda confused. So, if you say Islam took over Wales, a politically aligned, specifically 'national socialist', force would be a good thing?

I might be getting some wires crossed here with this hypothetical situ!
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Sep 24 2010, 08:27 PM
All terrorism is bad. But, ask yourselves this ''If Saudi invaded England, would you be a terrorist? I would.
So are you saying that republican terror is ok?

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///I'm kinda confused. So, if you say Islam took over Wales, a politically aligned, specifically 'national socialist', force would be a good thing?///

I'm not saying it'd be a ''good'' thing, but it'd be an effective thing. It worked very well for Hitler. It wouldn't have to be specificsally nationalist socialisst, but it'd have to have a socialist flavour to it for it to be of any value.
Democracy doesn't work in times of stress and need, democraccy takers too long, never gets anything done and pfaffs around too much. Democracy only works in times of peace.


/////So are you saying that republican terror is ok?///
I'm saying that one man's terror is another man's rightious guerilla war.
If you found yourself forced into submission by a conquering force on your own land, would you consider your fight an act of terror or an act of defiance?
(Islam is different here, Islam is an ideology based on terror no matter if you are conqurered or not)
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Sep 24 2010, 10:01 PM
/////So are you saying that republican terror is ok?///
I'm saying that one man's terror is another man's rightious guerilla war.
If you found yourself forced into submission by a conquering force on your own land, would you consider your fight an act of terror or an act of defiance?
(Islam is different here, Islam is an ideology based on terror no matter if you are conqurered or not)

My question was are you saying republican terror is ok? It's a simple yes or no answer. And what I mean by republican terror is anti-British terror.

It's not a question of ifs and buts its a question of here and now.

I will oppose any form of anti-British terror, be it be from fellow Christians, Muslims or any form of ideology/political thinking.
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Sep 24 2010, 07:46 PM
More innocent British people will die, everytime the IRA set off a bomb in London we should reply with 10 bombs on Dublin courtesy of the RAF. Fenian scum.
That's uncalled for.
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Sep 24 2010, 10:18 PM
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/////So are you saying that republican terror is ok?///
I'm saying that one man's terror is another man's rightious guerilla war.
If you found yourself forced into submission by a conquering force on your own land, would you consider your fight an act of terror or an act of defiance?
(Islam is different here, Islam is an ideology based on terror no matter if you are conqurered or not)

My question was are you saying republican terror is ok? It's a simple yes or no answer. And what I mean by republican terror is anti-British terror.

It's not a question of ifs and buts its a question of here and now.

I will oppose any form of anti-British terror, be it be from fellow Christians, Muslims or any form of ideology/political thinking.
No, I don't support any form of anti british ''terror'' but yes, I can understand it in certain circumstances.
The irish question is way to long and involved for us to sort out over a few posts on a forum.
I have aa republican mother, I can see her side of the story. I have a british father, I can see his.
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Sep 24 2010, 10:30 PM
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/////So are you saying that republican terror is ok?///
I'm saying that one man's terror is another man's rightious guerilla war.
If you found yourself forced into submission by a conquering force on your own land, would you consider your fight an act of terror or an act of defiance?
(Islam is different here, Islam is an ideology based on terror no matter if you are conqurered or not)

My question was are you saying republican terror is ok? It's a simple yes or no answer. And what I mean by republican terror is anti-British terror.

It's not a question of ifs and buts its a question of here and now.

I will oppose any form of anti-British terror, be it be from fellow Christians, Muslims or any form of ideology/political thinking.
No, I don't support any form of anti british ''terror'' but yes, I can understand it in certain circumstances.
The irish question is way to long and involved for us to sort out over a few posts on a forum.
I have aa republican mother, I can see her side of the story. I have a british father, I can see his.
We can discuss the politics of Ulster/Ireland for years and never get anywhere.

I despise militant Irish republicanism and will resist it at any opportunity, this will never change.
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Alot of people think these jolly brave freedom fighter are fighting for the reunifaction of there homeland. Bollox. Ireland was never united and was always under Brit rule. Then the British govt the Protestants there own state in the North. Over 50% of N.I.s population wants to remain in UK. So thats it. Debate over. You dont like N.I. being in UK. Simply fcuk off down south you taig bastards!
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Sep 24 2010, 10:59 PM
Alot of people think these jolly brave freedom fighter are fighting for the reunifaction of there homeland. Bollox. Ireland was never united and was always under Brit rule. Then the British govt the Protestants there own state in the North. Over 50% of N.I.s population wants to remain in UK. So thats it. Debate over. You dont like N.I. being in UK. Simply fcuk off down south you taig bastards!
1) Let's wait to see whether this "irish-related" threat level turns out to have any basis in fact

2) Let's focus on what the EDL is here for - opposing militant islam. There are plenty of other organisations that focus on opposing Irish nationalism.

3) Eire was NOT always under British rule.

4) Actions were taken by the British in Ireland to colonise parts of it to make it British. Actions were also taken to induce people to forsake Catholicism for Protestantism as another form of colonisation.

5) NONE of this justifies terrorism NOW. Yet we are being set up to see the conflicts in Ireland being mirrored across Europe in the next 40 years. And we are supposed to shut up and keep quiet when we can see the looming disaster.

Here's the details from the Centre for Social Cohesion's report on muslim terrorism in Britain: "77.5% ... of those with links to proscribed organisations are British"

(page 10 of http://www.socialcohesion.co.uk/uploads/1278089320islamist_terrorism_preview.pdf)

This goes to show the cowardly lie of the government. The vast majority of those involved in islamic terrorism in Britain are NOT "international". They are more British than any person from Ireland (north or south) who commits acts of terror.

Yet it is ok for all the Irish to be associated with terrorism. Yet the "special people" must be protected, and not allowed to have any association with terrorism.

Muslim terrorists make irish terrorists look like amateurs, yet they are accorded a special protected status where the ideology that motivates them is protected from criticism by law, and we are not even allowed to name them in the terrorist threat level that warns us against their probable actions.
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well said Homo!!!
The media and the powers that be are making us associate Irishness with terror because it is acceptable to do so, purely because the Irish are the same colour as ''us''.
But, god help you if you associate Islam with terror (despite what the news tells us every day of the week). Why???? Because the majority of muslims in this country are not white.
You and I can see that white/brown/black means nothing, if we all stand for the same thing we are ONE.
Racism is a construct.
There is no such thing as racism. There is such a thing as culturalism though, that's what we ar5e fighting.
The powers that be are forcing our society to call it racism.

We all have black/brown friends who we don't consider to be black or brown, we consider them friends, end of.
BUT, if a black/white/brown person holds radically different views to our own, we say NO. And we are branded racist.

I say NO to caucasian Islamists just as vehemently as I say NO to Pakistani Islamists.

We need to remind the media that they are not dictaating to idiots.
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Alot of people think these jolly brave freedom fighter are fighting for the reunifaction of there homeland. Bollox. Ireland was never united and was always under Brit rule. Then the British govt the Protestants there own state in the North. Over 50% of N.I.s population wants to remain in UK. So thats it. Debate over. You dont like N.I. being in UK. Simply fcuk off down south you taig bastards!
lol. well put - sums it all up basically, and its a republican myth that they were forced out and us big bad scottish/english planters took their "ulster" stle their land, big bad enlish took near half of their country etc.

A myth that spurned a serious hatred towards everything british, and cloaked the world about the british empire.


The cruithin and ulaid were here first! the plantation was known as the "homecoming" to our forefathers. From UDL Article - Ulster's Simple History

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Nationality can be defined as the origin, history, culture, heritage and identity of one people that gives them a different outlook from other peoples. Undeniably Ulster and Irish people are separate nationalities. Whilst ignored officially by Irish politicians, who pay lip service to Irish Nationalist myths that all on the island are one nationality, when tested the Irish recognise this undeniable fact. For example it has been alleged that during World War 2, Churchill offered the then Irish leader, Clan Chief (An Taiseoch) E. De Valera – a strident Republican – a united island if Ireland entered the war. This offer was rejected chiefy as De Valera did not want large numbers of Ulster people upsetting the Gaelic / Catholic ethos of Ireland that had been created; he innately recognised that Ulster people are not Irish.

19th century German and English travellers recognised that there were two peoples on the island. Politically this manifested itself in the two peoples going their own separate ways in 1920. Basically the Ulster people are descended from ancient Ulster, Gaelic, Viking, Norman, English, and Scottish peoples whose traits combine to give all Ulster people a unique Ulster identity. They are a different people from all others in the British Isles. This is true regardless of religion; Protestants and Catholics have more in common with each other than anyone else. It is true that many Catholics do regard themselves as Irish and Irishness is part of the make up of all Ulster people in the complex web of our nationality. However this is not true of the Irish who often regard all Ulster people equally as ‘Black Northerners’.

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Sep 24 2010, 07:46 PM
More innocent British people will die, everytime the IRA set off a bomb in London we should reply with 10 bombs on Dublin courtesy of the RAF. Fenian scum.
Black & Tans wouldnt go a miss right now! :-/
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I couldn't give a fcuk if you're white, muslim, jewish, French, Christian, dog, cat, asian, black etc etc.

If you want to bomb this nation and hurt it's people you will be resisted.

My level of hatred is the same for both Irish republicans and militant islamists.

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