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UK 4% Muslim
Topic Started: Sep 23 2010, 08:36 PM (720 Views)
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Official UK survey says:

71% Christian
21% Nothing
4% Muslim

Near the bottom of this article.

Official Report (pdf)
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4% and already they have had a very big negative impact on the UK.

Very worrying figures.
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4% to the PC culture we live in now demands massive power.

No disrespect but figures out today state that the gay population is 1.5% of the UK. Look at what impact the gay rights movement have. BTW, I'm not saying this is a bad thing or being homophobic, I'm just using it as an example.

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4% is bollocks if its 'official' and thats a cert.
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Appendix 1 provides a geographical breakdown, but only for Religious/Not religious. Maybe a FOI request could get regional muzzie % data.

ONS link
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UK was 4% Muslim in 2007/08 according to information in the Times/Telegraph, they're at at least 5% now, which means they'll have doubled the population from the 2001 Census compared to the results of the 2011 Census.
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I think you are right RH, I would say its more 5 or even 6% now.

I do not think it will be long before we will see the first Islamic party of England.

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UK maybe, any one know the stats for England? Bet its a hell of a lot higher than 4%
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The UK is at least 35% Muslim, just take a look around you.

You are living in cloud cuckoo land if you believe anything else.

eg.. do you believe their is only one Mosque for evet 10 Churches?

Of course not, they are brainwashing you and it's working!!!
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35% is a large number. From where do you get your stats?
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Cross posted from Radarsite from an original article in ACT
http://blog.americancongressfortruth.com/

Note from Radarsite: For anyone who may still have lingering doubts about the real danger of the Muslim onslaught of the West, this may be the most revealing analysis of the threat of the Islamic Jihad that you will ever read. The reasoning is impeccable and the conclusions reached are both obvious and startling.

"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel." -- Leon Uris, "The Haj"

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called "religious rights."

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to "the reasonable" Muslim demands for their "religious rights," they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works -- percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book
(2007).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5% Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%
Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel." -- Leon Uris, "The Haj"
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm


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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5621482.ece
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Sep 23 2010, 08:38 PM
4% and already they have had a very big negative impact on the UK.

Very worrying figures.
you got it mate.......4% and already causing unrest ,cant wait till there 40-50% then things will be interesting
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Make up your own minds... look around you.

4% or 35%

You are being ethnically cleansed, are the Government going to tell you the true figures?

eg.. do you believe their is only one Mosque for every 10 Churches?


Well, do the maths....
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Some great posts there and plenty of info to copy and paste to our "ostritch" mates
"...NOR SHALL MY SWORD SLEEP IN MY HAND."

E.D.L......THE THIN RED LINE
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Damson: 4% or 35%

Depends where you live. The density is not homogenous across the country.


I think your next point is more interesting.
Why is there such a development and appeasement of Islamic culture in the country that outweighs its actual cultural representation?

To take an example, why are some food distributors going 100% halal to cater for a small minority?

It's very odd...
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Just a couple of years ago the media and the government were trying to tell us the Muslim populationwas 1.6m, now I think the latest official figure is 2m.

Every major city has a large Muslim population, every large town has a Muslim population, the figure of only 2m Muslims is laughable.

I don't think anyone really knows, although I would think a figure of 5 to 6 million is very realistic, the majority in England.

The Muslim population is a very young population, with a very high birth rate. Which is shown with Mohammed as the third most popular boys name for the new born male babies in the UK.

In just a generation the Muslim population will be huge.
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"Depends where you live. The density is not homogenous across the country"


Well my friend, it works both ways dosen't it ?


London is virtually completely ethnically cleansed.

The east end nearly 100%
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Sep 23 2010, 09:36 PM
4% or 35%

Depends where you live. The density is not homogenous across the country.
Yes, there will be big variations.

As I said above, the appendix doesn't break down the religions by region. But it does show the % of white people. The lowest are:

Leicester 57% white
Luton 50% white
Slough 51% white
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damson
Sep 23 2010, 09:40 PM
"Depends where you live. The density is not homogenous across the country"


Well my friend, it works both ways dosen't it ?


London is virtually completely ethnically cleansed.

The east end nearly 100%
Why are you bringing up ethnicity?
Ethnicity is nothing to do with the EDL.
It's about ideology - fundamentalist Islamic ideology.

What could be interesting, of course, is do the people who provide these statistics consider 'muslim' as an ethnicity, culture or belief system...?
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Love you all because your all patriotic.

But i really do have to contain my fervour .

But please, as in the game show ...."say what you see"
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My final extract from the report - you'll have to read it yourself.

England 4.7% Muslim
Scotland 1.2% Muslim
Wales 1.2% Muslim
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If you want to cherry pick data points, then fine. In some places it can be 50%ish, in others much less than 1%.

On average, they claim 4.7%. (Edit - thanks for the decimal place, DG :) )
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Can i just finish with this thought...

If there are not that many Mosques and only 4% Muslims...what do we need the EDL for?

If those 4% figures be fact the EDL is an over reaction...isn't it ?
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Sep 23 2010, 09:50 PM
Can i just finish with this thought...

If there are not that many Mosques and only 4% Muslims...what do we need the EDL for?

If those 4% figures be fact the EDL is an over reaction...isn't it ?
are you EDL?
its obvious the figures are wrong but you dont strike me as genuine EDL at all tbh?
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Am i EDL ?

Ask Admin they have nearly banned me for being too Nationalistic!

I say the UK are near 35% Muslim...fact!!!!

My argument is... if you disagree with my figures or deem to bury your heads in the sand is...

If there are not that many Mosques and only 4% Muslims...what do we need the EDL for?

If those 4% figures be fact the EDL is an over reaction...isn't it ?
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I cant speak for every town and city, but Dewsbury must be at least 60% muslim and they started off with one part of town and naturally they breed and overspill and take over other parts, and that town is doomed. Then just like locusts they will move on and ruin another town with mass breeding. All this started with Bradford and now all West Yorkshire is fcuked. 4% doesnt sound too bad as a national statistic, but 50% of them are stretched accross the Yorkshire/Lancashire area, and if its as bad elsewhere then the figures are plucked out of the air and nationally its more than likely 25%
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Sep 23 2010, 10:04 PM
Am i EDL ?

Ask Admin they have nearly banned me for being too Nationalistic!

I say the UK are near 35% Muslim...fact!!!!

My argument is... if you disagree with my figures or deem to bury your heads in the sand is...

If there are not that many Mosques and only 4% Muslims...what do we need the EDL for?

If those 4% figures be fact the EDL is an over reaction...isn't it ?
we all know whats going on!

i was just asking you if you were EDL?
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I agree Uprising, but have to hold back because i'm on a 20% warning by admin.

Suffice to say the 4% Government figure is at the very least 20% out.. but it's meant to be.

What thinking person on this board believes this Communist government figures?

We NEED the EDL because we know the figures are at least 25% and our backs are to the wall!

The EDl also need people like you and me...but with me they haven't quite decided yet...
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are you EDL tho damson?
thats all i want to know?
or are you a keyboard nationalist from elsewhere?
youve abused lads on here whove been toe to toe with the MDL,UAF and MAC for been 'left wing'? criticised EDL and the forum and said the UAF forums more right wing?
personally i dont think you get it?
correct me if im wrong by all means! what demos etc EDL things have you been to? what division are you?
just interested...not a trick question.
i think you may be in the wrong place!
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If you just do the maths and lets say on average they have 4 kids. Those 4 kids each have 4 kids, that makes 16. Those 16 have 4 kids each and that becomes 64. Thats just one family over a couple of generations. Then theres the wives that come from the villages on an arranged marriage, and as far as im aware they can have 4 wives. I find it hard to believe that since the 1950's they have only amassed to 4% of the population
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Sep 23 2010, 10:15 PM
Suffice to say the 4% Government figure is at the very least 20% out.. but it's meant to be.

What thinking person on this board believes this Communist government figures?

We NEED the EDL because we know the figures are at least 25% and our backs are to the wall!

The EDl also need people like you and me...but with me they haven't quite decided yet...
In 2005 11% of all meat in the UK was halal. Does that really look like 35% of the population is muslim?

TBH, I hope you don't get banned.

We do need you. You make the rest of us look like moderates ... Oh, hang on, that's exactly what the extremist muslims do with the "moderate" muslims.
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Homo Sapien..

"In 2005 11% of all meat in the UK was halal. Does that really look like 35% of the population is muslim"
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It's now nearly 6 years on and they are eating halal meat at Ascot races.

I'm going to bed now, but please just do the maths...
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ive got damson as a keyboard warrior meself till they tell us any different-
asked nicely no reply!
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Well Clee, before i go to bed I can see by your caption your a keyboard warrior.

I go to most of the demos but not as obvious EDL because i'm too nationalistic and tend to get carried away as you may have gathered.

You will know me by sight i'm sure...as most others do.
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Muslims are nowhere near 15 or 20% or any other inflated figure. Otherwise they'd be everywhere. They have however doubled from the 2001 Census of 2.7% to the 2011 Census of about 5.4% (Hogster research).

They are probably higher in England (Census is based on Britain/UK) and they might be up to 7 - 8%. Certainly in some hot spots they're at 25 - 40%, but they're limited areas.

What is most concerning is not the current numbers, but the acceleration of the population growth and the power that they wield as a minority. If they ever do reach 40% without modernising, then we're fucked, as they'll act as a block vote and 40% is enough to control government.
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Sep 23 2010, 10:39 PM
Well Clee, before i go to bed I can see by your caption your a keyboard warrior.

I go to most of the demos but not as obvious EDL because i'm too nationalistic and tend to get carried away as you may have gathered.

You will know me by sight i'm sure...as most others do.
^o) judging from clees posts, he does more than most in the EDL. Also clee didn't pop up just before the election and post a load of pro-BNP bollox before disappearing for 4 months.

If your EDL pal that's fine but I think I speak for most when I say slagging of other members and posting facts like "the UK is 35% muslim."
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My country has around 25% Muslims (and that is only in the borders that most people agree on rather than the ones we should have). Trust me, you don't have 25% in the UK, but you've got a completely different breed coming up.

Edited by brianoflondon, Sep 23 2010, 10:59 PM.
Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009.


Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century.
They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back.
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Wow ! Hey admin, sprite and Road Hog...

I am just questioning the figures is that allowed?

If just 4% nationally why do we need the EDL?

We all know it's bollocks and it's nearer my figure of 35%.

That's why we need the EDL..

I am sure that everyone on this board would not bother going to another demo if they thought just a measly 4% Muslims existed in the UK.

You will probably ban this post anyway..





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Sep 23 2010, 11:06 PM
Wow ! Hey admin, sprite and Road Hog...

I am just questioning the figures is that allowed?

If just 4% nationally why do we need the EDL?

We all know it's bollocks and it's nearer my figure of 35%.

That's why we need the EDL..

I am sure that everyone on this board would not bother going to another demo if they thought just a measly 4% Muslims existed in the UK.

You will probably ban this post anyway..





Where do you live damson? Where I live there isn't a Muslim for miles, in other places it's 60-70%.

35% is a daft figure mate becuase if that was the case like it is in other place in the world, the UK would be half an Islamic state.

And yes these is a need for the EDL. Look at all the groups against the BNP and they only get 500,000 votes and most are protest votes. There are 2.5 million Muslims so the EDL should be the most nessisery group the UK!
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Sep 23 2010, 11:06 PM
Wow ! Hey admin, sprite and Road Hog...

I am just questioning the figures is that allowed?

And I was just replying to your post, is that allowed?
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5621482.ece

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-513218/A-brutal-beating-justice-meted-humble-street-cafe-sharia-law-operates-Britain.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1055764/Islamic-sharia-courts-Britain-legally-binding.html

at 4% thats about 2 million, they have implemented sharia law.. doling out justice to us within our lands, the lands or forefathers fought for. influenced through menace the islamic way behind our backs, halal food, islamic schools, islamic courts, islamic laws, islamic mosques, islamic values, islamic banks, islamic communities, and it gets worse..
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article634210.ece

Muslim cleric declares war on infidels.. !!!
http://www.onelawforall.org.uk/new-report-sharia-law-in-britain-a-threat-to-one-law-for-all-and-equal-rights/
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If the real number is 4% i'll eat my hat.
They put london as nearly 70% white, its just ridiculous.
Edited by Defendz, Sep 24 2010, 12:49 AM.
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WikiAnswers say.

Q: How many Muslims are there in Britain?

A: For complete numbers check www.statistics.gov.uk but I can safely say that they are the second most populous religious community after christains.
There are 2,065,012 muslims in Britain!!

About 1.5 million and growing rapidly everyday.


that is a hell of alot. makes me very uncomfortable I don't know about you.
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WikiAnswers say.

Q: How many Muslims are there in Britain?

A: For complete numbers check www.statistics.gov.uk but I can safely say that they are the second most populous religious community after christains.
There are 2,065,012 muslims in Britain!!

About 1.5 million and growing rapidly everyday.


that is a hell of alot. makes me very uncomfortable I don't know about you.
As I said before, seeing as their are literaly 100s of anti-facist/BNP groups to takle 13,000 BNP members + 500,000 vote (most of which are protest votes anyway), I find it so scary that thier are only half a dozen anti-Islam groups in the UK.

:-/ just shows the influance of media I guess... Hmph...
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at 4% thats about 2 million, they have implemented sharia law.. doling out justice to us within our lands, the lands or forefathers fought for. influenced through menace the islamic way behind our backs, halal food, islamic schools, islamic courts, islamic laws, islamic mosques, islamic values, islamic banks, islamic communities, and it getsworse..
THIS is the 'WTF' point of the whole thing. How the hell do 4% have the influence of something like 35%.
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Sep 23 2010, 10:39 PM
Well Clee, before i go to bed I can see by your caption your a keyboard warrior.

I go to most of the demos but not as obvious EDL because i'm too nationalistic and tend to get carried away as you may have gathered.

You will know me by sight i'm sure...as most others do.
strange 'everyone' knows you yet you abuse the EDL / forum and people for been too 'left'.
are you sure your not a hanger on?

@spirete i prob do less than most on here m8 living in the arse end of no-where with no division and no major muslim problem.
i think we've managed to raise 3 certs for leicester tho lol. :D
2 are defo and got train tickets so thats 100% increase...maybe 200% increase! cant complain at those cast iron figures pmsl!

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The 4% figure is bollocks, go to any of the densely populated areas of the country, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Midlands and London and its full of muslims, are the 155,000 converts added into those figures what about all the illegals here, the government hasnt a clue how many of them there is. Whether Damsons right or not on an exact figure the point is surely its a hell of a lot higher than 4 poxy percent. Its just more tampered with figures helping the Islamisation run on and on in my opinion.
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Contrary to them being a picked on minority, they are fast becoming a very powerful untouchable elite. This state of affairs cannot be allowed to continue.

Where else does such a small minority wield so much power, create so much discord and instill so much fear in the majority indigenous population? Think about that and worry, because their breeding pattern dictates that in not so many years time the current percentage of Muslims will pale into insignificance.

Imagine if you will, what their demands will be then compared to the way they are trying to run the show already.

Their culture and customs must be dismissed and where a "cultural crime" such as an "honour killing" or flag burning demonstration, threatening to behead people on the streets placard waving is committed it must be deemed a common criminal offence and handled as such.

Our problem is we are too afraid to offend their sensibilities and these sensibilities reach everywhere - cartoons, foreign policy, dogs, halal food - you name it they will always find offence in it and I for one have had enough.

We are living in frightening and pivotal times at the moment and we have to act before it is too late.
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I quoted the figures of 11% meat from 2005. Even allowing for non-muslims eating half of that, it puts the muslim population at about 5.5%. From 2006 to 2010 (a mere four years) he extrapolates that the muslim population has increased at a compound rate of 100%.

There is no way that the muslim population in the UK increased by 100% year on year in the past 4 years. How would it be possible? For us to have got to 35% from 2006 would mean each muslim women giving birth to about 5 babies per year, or for all of us to have a member of our family who converted, or for there to be 5 million new immigrants a year coming here, and all of them muslim. Or perhaps it's the whole population who's thick and can't notice such extraordinary phenomena. Then again, maybe Damson gets his information from his imaginary friends.

Since some of us can actually produce statistics (either from the census or from the meat federation), at least provide some source to justify your ridiculous claims. Or don't - just hang around and make yourself look stupid. It makes the rest of us look better.
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