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EDL in local elections?; Standing candidates
Topic Started: Sep 22 2010, 08:00 PM (348 Views)
Forourcountry
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I am talking about standing at a local level, with council elections coming up in May 2011.

There is a slot waiting to be filled in British politics, which won't come from the main three parties.

It won't come from UKIP, who are nothing but a bunch of right wing Tory snobs, with their MEPs raking in the money from the EU, which they are supposed to be against.

The BNP is at present involved in internal war, where the outcome is uncertain.

There are a lot of people who would vote for a party concerned about the expansion of Islam within our Country, and a party proud to be British.
At the present moment, they seem to have no one to vote for.

It would not be easy, but not impossible by any means, for there to be EDL candidates.
The first thing you would have to do, is to find candidates willing to stand. Candidates without much of a past would be preferable.

Any potential candidate should be made aware, that their name and address will be in the public domain, as happens to all candidates.

There is no deposit required to stand in local elections.
Any potential candidate can get a nonmination pack from their local council, earlier the better, before the deadline of when candidates have to have their nonminations in, which is normally about three weeks before the election date.
A candidate needs an election agent, who can be agent to other candidates. His or her role would be explained in the nonmination pack.

A candidate can stand in any ward in the council they live in.
The candidate would be required to get 10 sigs of people on the electoral roll who live in the ward they are planning to stand in.

These sigs could come from people or relatives the candidate knows, who would have to live in the ward where the candidate is standing.
The other method is to knock on people's doors and ask them to sign your nonmination forum.
Making sure they are on the electoral role and sign in the correct place next to their name, with each person on the electoral roll having a number.

It is very important to follow the guide lines in the nonmination pack on how to fill out the nonmination form or the council will reject it, if not filled in correctly. Hence the reason for getting the nonmination forms into the council early so mistakes can be made good before the deadline.

First problems hit, will be finding candidates willing to come out in public, not easy, but there are always brave people.
Second problem is getting people to sign your forms. People will tell you they are for you, but then will pull back in horrror when you ask them to sign your nonmination form. You just have to keep knocking until you get the sigs. I always found elderly people have more bottle than the younger ones when it comes to putting their name to paper.

I would stand in working class wards, and not bother with middle class wards for now.
Try and pick a ward where the menace of Islamic expansion is close.
Pick a ward where you think the EDL could do well.

The best way to let people know what you stand for is to deliver leaflets through their doors explaining why you are standing.
Don't bother with just putting a leaflet out a few weeks before the election, it won't work. A hard hitting campaign would be needed, with numerous leaflet drops. I believe 800 quid is the max amount allowed to be spent on each ward.

The other method is canvassing, where you knock on doors explaining your position and asking people to vote for you.

The UAF/Searchlight would put out third party leaflets attacing any EDL candidate, while not actually backing any other candidate. The most they are allowed to spend is 50 quid per ward, if you think they have past that amount tell the local election officer or the police.

Putting up a black or Asian candidate if possible would be a good idea, as it would damage the ''racist'' bollocks coming from the UAF.

It is up to those in the EDL if they would wish to do this and stand.
It would not be easy, it could flop.
But if the EDL got a good result, then the publicity would be massive.
If the EDL actually won a seat, who knows where it could lead.

Althought there are tens of thousands of council seats, a EDL councillor would get massive publicity for the EDL and their beliefs.
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Nice play.
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EDL are not a political movement and have no plans to be.
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The EDL is non political and should stay that way or we will become divided. We have BNP, UKIP, Tory etc voters all on the same side in our opposition to the islamification of our country and to fight islamic extremism, politics would divide us. Not a good idea
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I agree wholeheartedly.
Leave politics out of it.
Edited by Cheshire, Sep 22 2010, 08:07 PM.
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I really think the EDL should set up a political party that stands in local elections.

We could help areas of towns who are fighting Islamism, a new Mosque etc.... if we had councillors.

But the EDL is not going to go political unless the leadership want to, and I don't think they do.

So I guess these threads about the EDL going political are pointless.
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Full respect for posting a very interesting topic forourcountry, But i also disagree, Theres many people here that have different beliefs.

Also in order to do this you would need a propper manifesto.
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Would love this to happen, but EDL are a non-political movement.
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Tutaminis legio
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Also im sure with Geert Wilders International Freedom Alliance something is going to go down, Perhaps a British version of the freedom party?
The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.
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The main reason for staying non political - It will divide us, cause infighting and destroy the movement from within, dont let this happen, we have to many different political beliefs amongst our members/activists
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Thanks for the quick replies.
It would be up to the EDL leadership.
It may only have to be half dozen or so EDL candidates, which would not make the EDL a national political party.
Even a few independent candidates with lose ties to the EDL, could be an idea.

As I said, any victory for an EDL candidate would result in massive publicity.
Downside, it could flop.

Of course I respect the EDL's present views on elections.
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Forourcountry
Sep 22 2010, 08:20 PM
Thanks for the quick replies.
It would be up to the EDL leadership.
It may only have to be half dozen or so EDL candidates, which would not make the EDL a national political party.
Even a few independent candidates with lose ties to the EDL, could be an idea.

As I said, any victory for an EDL candidate would result in massive publicity.
Downside, it could flop.

Of course I respect the EDL's present views on elections.
What if the candidate was a bit extreme on immigration, ? all the liberals in the EDL would have a problem with it and probably leave, or what if the candidate was a bit soft on immigrants, all those who oppose immigrants wouldnt want to stand in the name of such a group. Its to divisive and as long as we all oppose the islamification of the UK and islamic extremism thats all that matters, not politics.
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The Tea Party in America are causing a real stir and the anti-fascists(?!!) in the UK are very woried about a British version starting up. Might be the way to go.
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That is a very good idea. Assuming that no demos are flooded with hooligans and besmirch the good name the E.D.L is trying to promote. The person who stands has to have an almost blemish like Character, with no major infractions with the law. In addition to this the candidate would be best suited to doing some local work, months in advance of the elections (working form within as it were). This tactic would garner quite a lot of local support, and the words from the public regarding the deeds of this one individual would spread. I see that this would make the candidate signatures a moot point.
To this end, how many people can commit their time to doing some semi-hi profile work in their constituency? Joining something like a residents association, or doing some charity work? This is how you would have to proceed and start as soon as possible. For example Mansfield is controlled by the lid/dems. On the other hand, I have a feeling they won’t be as popular seeing how Mansfield is going to be hit hard with the proposed cuts.

Just my thoughts Forourcountry

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I think going into politics would not only destroy the EDL, but would also make us a laughing stock. Not all members would agree with who was standing and we don't have enough support across the country, we need to build support up as we are without trying our hand at something else imo :)
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Sep 22 2010, 08:34 PM
I think going into politics would not only destroy the EDL, but would also make us a laughing stock. Not all members would agree with who was standing and we don't have enough support across the country, we need to build support up as we are without trying our hand at something else imo :)
Totally agree
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keep it simples!...unity being the watchword!
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Ali
Sep 22 2010, 08:34 PM
I think going into politics would not only destroy the EDL, but would also make us a laughing stock. Not all members would agree with who was standing and we don't have enough support across the country, we need to build support up as we are without trying our hand at something else imo :)
well said ali bang on the money
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After reading some of the posts on this thread by people opposed to the EDL going political, I am beginning to change my mind.

IMO we should advise EDL members to vote for a particular party (on Facebook and the site). That way, we would have an impact politically without setting up our own party.
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Sep 22 2010, 08:42 PM
Ali
Sep 22 2010, 08:34 PM
I think going into politics would not only destroy the EDL, but would also make us a laughing stock. Not all members would agree with who was standing and we don't have enough support across the country, we need to build support up as we are without trying our hand at something else imo :)
well said ali bang on the money
Ali to stand for parliament!! :D
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As a lot of others have said I think it would cause arguments and divide the EDL. Just that reason alone is enough for me to be against the idea I think we should keep out of politics for now and wait for us to get stronger and stronger, then I think we should consider it, all in my opinion... NS
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I think the EDL becoming a political party is a bad idea we would loose our indipendent thinking which is our greatest asset become a party and you have the party line to follow, we may agree on imigration but will fight like hell cats on other issues, basicaly we are a load of rebels united behind a single cause.
I have already in another post surgested getting involved with UKIP at a local level giving us chance to assess them before the next general election, unlike the other 3 parties there still could be flexability in their manifesto, they also have a party machine up and running. We both have one thing in comon, a poor public image, they are a little to smooth we have some rough edges. A case of we could offer them horses for courses in different areas.
I know what I want to say its just lack of education that buggers me. Get that education young people so you can do all the things that I cant
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We-Are-The-British
Sep 22 2010, 08:42 PM
After reading some of the posts on this thread by people opposed to the EDL going political, I am beginning to change my mind.

IMO we should advise EDL members to vote for a particular party (on Facebook and the site). That way, we would have an impact politically without setting up our own party.
People would never agree on who vote for tho mate, for me its 100% BNP everytime and that isnt going to change, some people might take exeption to that which would cause tension. There might be a life long tory amongst us and a fellow BNP voter might not like him because of that, I think who we vote for isnt important, its only our opposition to extremist islam that should come into play
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Sep 22 2010, 10:35 PM
We-Are-The-British
Sep 22 2010, 08:42 PM
After reading some of the posts on this thread by people opposed to the EDL going political, I am beginning to change my mind.

IMO we should advise EDL members to vote for a particular party (on Facebook and the site). That way, we would have an impact politically without setting up our own party.
People would never agree on who vote for tho mate, for me its 100% BNP everytime and that isnt going to change, some people might take exeption to that which would cause tension. There might be a life long tory amongst us and a fellow BNP voter might not like him because of that, I think who we vote for isnt important, its only our opposition to extremist islam that should come into play
Agree with you. The EDL becoming political doesn't seem like such a good idea now.
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We always get newbies shuffling on here mentioning politics, odd that !
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Anumber1
Sep 22 2010, 10:45 PM
We always get newbies shuffling on here mentioning politics, odd that !
trying to cause divisions maybe ?
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Where is the British Geert Wilders, He/She must be out there?
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Having stood for local elections.
1. you don't need a manifesto, if you are a local councillor, especially if you are independant.
2. You can still fight these things if you stood as an independant.
3. By standing independant you can remove any media racist crap and at the same time it doesn't make EDL political.
4. Be ready for the opposition to deride you at any point.
They don't like it up 'em.
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Sep 22 2010, 10:45 PM
We always get newbies shuffling on here mentioning politics, odd that !
trying to cause divisions maybe ?
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Ok we have thid every month or so the EDL can not go into politics for lots of resons most already on over, but that dose not mean that one of us can not run or that a local devison can not suport a party at that level. I know that ther is alot of small local partys that we could work with that would bite our hand off for 20 canversers or just some one to stop the UAF beating them up when they try to get backing
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in years gone by in burnley the muzzies have just joined labour and all the muzzies vote for him/her......

why dont members of the edl start joining a specific party and then let edl members know.

if we get enough of our members into seats we can work from there to cut a long story short we should infiltrate a party and change there policy on immigration/sharia etc etc
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Sep 22 2010, 08:05 PM
EDL are not a political movement and have no plans to be.
So you think peaceful non political protests will change left wing contempt for Western values and thirteen hundred years of mohammadan bigotry.
Why do you think that they so rely on violence . It’s so effective we are all running scared.
islamists burn our bibles and flag. Both are illegal but never prosecuted !
A few lads take it on themselves to do the same with the mohammadan version mein kamp and the media is in uproar.
Most likely as things are going they will take over soon like the fascists did in Germany in the 1930’s. It only required a small number to seize control from a frightened population as we see all over the world today.
Then we will be the enemy and officially classified as terrorists.
Get out there and tell the people the truth happening around them
We need to create sufficient decent amongst the people that governments will have no choice but to act.
Those in the nice country towns and villages do not know as it does not affect them but they need to be made aware.
It’s going to take a long time possibly after my lifetime.
I would like to live long enough to see Mecca and Medina in ruins.
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