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UAF pro Islam/anti EDL March Novmber 6 in London; UAF scum organise pro Islam march
Topic Started: Sep 21 2010, 06:42 AM (787 Views)
Bacon burqua
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Is the EDL planning to counter protest? If so, should be a doozy. Time for some Commie skull kicking. Would love to be there.

Found this on the UAF internet gloryhole

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Union leaders, MPs and campaigners have signed up to support the national demonstration against racism, fascism and Islamophobia on Saturday 6 November in central London.

The demo has been called by UAF and backed by the TUC, the Muslim Council of Britain and Love Music Hate Racism.

UPDATE: The march will assemble at
12 noon, Malet Street, London WC1 on Saturday 6 November.

We will have details of transport from around the country soon.

Here is the statement in support of the demo, with its inital signatories. Please use the form below to add support from your union branch or community organisation.

We, the undersigned, are deeply concerned by the rise in fascism, Islamophobia, antisemitism and racism. The English Defence League has organised events across the country, stirring up hatred, Islamophobia and racism – running riot in some cases and provoking violent attacks on Muslim, black and Asian communities and on Mosques and Mandirs (Hindu temples).

Alongside this the British National Party has received unprecedented electoral support for a fascist organisation in Britain.

Despite losing many council seats in the elections this year, the BNP’s share of the vote overall continued to rise and it has two elected members of the European Parliament.

This is in the context of a wave of Islamaphobia and racism in Europe and the USA, including threats to burn copies of the Qur’an, attacks on Mosques and Islamic cultural centres, bans on Muslim women’s full-face veils and the construction of minarets. In France, the Roma people have been singled out and subjected to mass expulsions.

Now, more than ever, we must unite to turn back this tide of hatred.

We stand against the rise of racism, fascism, Islamophobia and antisemitism and support the demonstration on Saturday 6 November.

Signed:
Derek Simpson joint general secretary, Unite the union, Tony Woodley joint general secretary, Unite the union, Keith Sonnet deputy general secretary Unison, Ed Balls MP, Diane Abbott MP, Billy Hayes general secretary, CWU, Tony Kearns deputy general secretary, CWU, Chris Keates general secretary, NASUWT, Christine Blower general secretary NUT, Kevin Courtney deputy general secretary, NUT, Mark Serwotka general secretary PCS, Hugh Lanning deputy general secretary PCS, Matt Wrack general secretary FBU, Bob Crow general secretary, RMT, Jeremy Dear general secretary NUJ, Pete Murray president NUJ, Gerry Conlon Guildford Four, Paddy Hill Birmingham Six, Runnymede Trust, Napo, POA, Musicians Union
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Why should we counter protest ?

We need a few good souls without colours posing as paps filming and photographing the whole thing, maybe get a few interviews.

If we were to counter protest, then we need to liven things up a bit, as HS has been saying, and make damn sure it gets in the media.
There's a slim chance Wonderdog might be back out of the jungle for this one.
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Sep 21 2010, 06:57 AM
Why should we counter protest ?

We need a few good souls without colours posing as paps filming and photographing the whole thing, maybe get a few interviews.

If we were to counter protest, then we need to liven things up a bit, as HS has been saying, and make damn sure it gets in the media.
There's a slim chance Wonderdog might be back out of the jungle for this one.
By the look of things, you get good numbers when you mobilse.
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Sep 21 2010, 07:51 AM
Anumber1
Sep 21 2010, 06:57 AM
Why should we counter protest ?

We need a few good souls without colours posing as paps filming and photographing the whole thing, maybe get a few interviews.

If we were to counter protest, then we need to liven things up a bit, as HS has been saying, and make damn sure it gets in the media.
There's a slim chance Wonderdog might be back out of the jungle for this one.
By the look of things, you get good numbers when you mobilse.
We could probably get 2-300 at short notice from local divisions but is it really best for the EDL to counter-demo an anti-racist demo? The UAF would just use is as propaganda in the future. Like the idea of EDL infiltrating as paps though :)
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"We stand against the rise of racism, fascism....and antisemitism...."

So why are they defending the Islamo-Nazis?

What moral confusion!

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Countering this lot is playing in to there hands. Yes, the MCB is corrupt as hell and wants jihad but we will get more from sitting back. The old saying, give them enough rope to hang them delve springs to mind.

Best case for the UAF kids is no Muslims show. Worst case and most likely is the Muslims will lay a jihad down in the UAFs ass. Like we hav seen so many times. We just need to be there to report it, Thame photos and video.
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Going off at a slight tangent here, this is a quote from the Unite All Facists statement.

"Alongside this the British National Party has received unprecedented electoral support for a fascist organisation in Britain.

Despite losing many council seats in the elections this year, the BNP’s share of the vote overall continued to rise and it has two elected members of the European Parliament."

If that isn't a prime 21st century example of what George Orwell called double think (later commentaors coined the apt word doublespeak) I don't know what is.

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My advice: no EDL presence. They're defending the indefensible. They will look like fools as they really have no cause. They're not trying to bring anything to the attention of people. This is a reaction to the flash demos. They're really worried by 100 or 200 people appearing with no warning, so this is an attempt to set up for a pitched battle. Don't give it to them no matter how many article they publish saying the EDL are cowards.

ADW: just read your Dawkins quote. I find him contemptible but that's funny even in the way it displays Dawkins's ignorance of Islam. The Koran is not a good source of science for a Muslim. It is the THE ONLY source of scientific information for a good Muslim. And yes, they want to be doctors, all the better to learn how to drive jeeps laden with explosives into airport buildings!

Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009.


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They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back.
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Sep 21 2010, 08:06 AM
"We stand against the rise of racism, fascism....and antisemitism...."

So why are they defending the Islamo-Nazis?

What moral confusion!

Liked the antisemitism part myself. Kind of ironic isn't it. As the old saying goes you couldn't make it up.
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Sep 21 2010, 08:27 AM
TV175
Sep 21 2010, 08:06 AM
"We stand against the rise of racism, fascism....and antisemitism...."

So why are they defending the Islamo-Nazis?

What moral confusion!

Liked the antisemitism part myself. Kind of ironic isn't it. As the old saying goes you couldn't make it up.
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As said it would be a bad move if the EDL turn up for this one as they will just use it against us. We know what our agenda is and it aint racist. Lets just hope they get jihaded up the ass!!!!
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No EDL IMO.
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With the change in tactics of EDL, the UAF are not going to know whether or not EDL will counter-protest.

IMO it would be a good opportunity to have a protest in Dudley, Bradford, or Oldham on that day :)
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Sep 21 2010, 08:06 AM
"We stand against the rise of racism, fascism....and antisemitism...."

So why are they defending the Islamo-Nazis?

What moral confusion!

Wheres this "rise" anyway? More racism nowadays than the 70s/80s? I don't think so.

I know the BNP have don't slightly better over the last 4/5 years but that's due to the rise in a disenfranchised population due to the labour legacy, not some invisible wave of anti-semetism...twonks

and also what's worng with islamophobia? It's just a fascist idioligy behind a smokescreen of religion. Bin laden must be pissing himself...
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Sep 21 2010, 10:20 AM
With the change in tactics of EDL, the UAF are not going to know whether or not EDL will counter-protest.

IMO it would be a good opportunity to have a protest in Dudley, Bradford, or Oldham on that day :)
Not a bad idea that. Keep em on there toes ;)
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Let them get on with it

We don't need to be there.

History has proven that they don't need us there...

To make complete twats of themselves!!!

lf we turn up and it gets nasty ( And it will )

Then WE will be the ones blamed!!!

Don't go and give them oxygen.

Don't go and allow them to influence the already biased media.

Just don't go!! ;)
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Perhaps the EDL should join them if the march is against racism, fascism and anti-semitism!!
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If a few long haired locals could go down and infiltrate, start doing some silly things and get photographed, we could give them a taste of their own medicine.
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Sep 21 2010, 11:06 AM
If a few long haired locals could go down and infiltrate, start doing some silly things and get photographed, we could give them a taste of their own medicine.
I like your thinking on this ;)
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Sep 21 2010, 10:44 AM
Perhaps the EDL should join them if the march is against racism, fascism and anti-semitism!!
That's what I was gonna suggest. EDL turns up, in colours, to join the protest against fascism, anti-semitism, homophobia and the like. Why the flip not. I mean, I can't remember which topic it was on, but I have suggested before that we should protest the BNP.

The best bit about it would be the fact that the UAF and all those other wankers would be stuffed. How could they go on complaining about our 'racism' or 'fascism' when we openly march against it? And how could they turn us away? Does anyone honestly think they could be seen pushing people away from such demos and get away with it? Would destroy the idea of UNITE against fascism wouldn't it.
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The idea of joining the demo is...interesting. How does everyone see that going? It could either be a brilliant strategy or lead to a massive fight and headlines in the media of 'Nazi EDL attack anti-racist march'.

I think the latter is sadly more likely.
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Yeah Truth, you have a point. BUT, if we contact the media saying that we (as an organisation) too want to protest against fascism and extremism and are being prevented. This is the thing, we need leadership on this, and the leadership should contact the media in advance, to tell them that we wish to join the peaceful protest against the BNP, racists, &ct. Then we have the troops on absolute BEST BEHAVIOUR, and go down, preferably with journos in tow, so we can show them we are not a bad bunch.
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Don't counter demo.
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Sep 21 2010, 07:56 AM
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Sep 21 2010, 06:57 AM
Why should we counter protest ?

We need a few good souls without colours posing as paps filming and photographing the whole thing, maybe get a few interviews.

If we were to counter protest, then we need to liven things up a bit, as HS has been saying, and make damn sure it gets in the media.
There's a slim chance Wonderdog might be back out of the jungle for this one.
By the look of things, you get good numbers when you mobilse.
We could probably get 2-300 at short notice from local divisions but is it really best for the EDL to counter-demo an anti-racist demo? The UAF would just use is as propaganda in the future. Like the idea of EDL infiltrating as paps though :)
wishfull thinking there mate ,short notice got us 50 -60 at al quds demo
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Sep 21 2010, 09:35 PM
Yeah Truth, you have a point. BUT, if we contact the media saying that we (as an organisation) too want to protest against fascism and extremism and are being prevented. This is the thing, we need leadership on this, and the leadership should contact the media in advance, to tell them that we wish to join the peaceful protest against the BNP, racists, &ct. Then we have the troops on absolute BEST BEHAVIOUR, and go down, preferably with journos in tow, so we can show them we are not a bad bunch.
If we pulled it off it might go a long way to changing things, not sure though...

Definitely no counter-demo though, worst idea possible.

Better idea as already mentioned is to demo elsewhere in the country on the same day due to lack of UAF scum to make our demos turn sour!
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make sure theres a good photographer there!,and someone doin videos too.
the uaf mob will kickoff...lets give them some well deserved pr!
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I think its crazy how we're defending the rights and culture of the UAF and ourselves at the same time as they abuse us for it. they seem very immature its like they want to have a go at someone, but they don't want to direct it where it really belongs because if they do they will be called things like racists and fascists and things. so being part of unite against fascism seems like it would be a safe alturnative where they can still have a go. with no consequences. I just hope the Muslims who stand with them know what hypocrits they all are. the fact they are standing with the Enemy of mankind over their own country men. I feel so sorry for them.
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Maybe our jewish and LGBT divisions could propose joining the demo( publicly of course) after all didnt they mention anti-semitism.
i wonder if they will publicly reject them or look like fools and accept those the y fooloishly counter protest .
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Well i think going would be a mistake, We have all seen before what happens when the EDL don't put up, They turn on eachother.

Can't remember the march ( was it Bradford? ) When the Muslims turned on the UAF and started beating them up?

Just rattle them up.
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Well i think going would be a mistake, We have all seen before what happens when the EDL don't put up, They turn on eachother.

Can't remember the march ( was it Bradford? ) When the Muslims turned on the UAF and started beating them up?

Just rattle them up.
Interesting. With participation limited to uaf and the unwashed, the only non-muzzies the muzzies could have a go against woud be the unwashed. Fine by me!
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Why counter protest them? We're against muslim extremists not anything else, we can't fight everything in England, let them go and make idiots of themselves on their own, and let us concentrate on what our aim is.
Although the photos and vids would be a good idea ;)
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We cant counter a demo against fascism and racism, it is two items we stand strongley against we only have two options stay away or support it, I think this is one we should apply for and if accepted turn up with Sikhs, Hindu's, Jews (will not be able to stop them), Gay's etc and wearing colours, Top behavour of course. If they say no then we stay away it is a win win situation, They are damed if they do and damed if they dont
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Let them get on with it by themselves with no counter demonstration. I'm sure they'll be not be able to behave themselves thereby hammering another nail in their own coffin.
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I think we should stand side by side with them on this one.



Since they're protesting against anti-semetism we should take Star of David flags with us, to show our support as it were.

If they object then it'll show them for the Islamist Nazis that they really are. ;)
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