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Ground Zero Mosque doesn't exist?; What do you think of this then
Topic Started: Aug 24 2010, 01:37 AM (512 Views)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/aug/23/charlie-brooker-ground-zero-mosque

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Some people have no regard, it may not be dirctly on Ground Zero, but it's too damn close.
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The Mosque should not be built anywhere near Ground Zero. New York is massive, why won't they build the Mosque somewhere else? Well I think we all know why they won't. The Mosque will be laughing in the face of all Americans if it is built.
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NEWS FLASH! The Guardian have just found out that the Ground Zero Mosque, that will be overlooking Ground Zero, will still be built in the same place and has not been moved!

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The "Ground Zero mosque" is a genuine proposal, but it's slightly less provocative than its critics' nickname makes it sound. For one thing, it's not at Ground Zero.
... They are way behind if they think people didn't know the location.
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It is approx 600 feet away from Ground Zero, and the mosque in Cordoba House/Park51 is on the top floor of a 15 storey building....it will be looking down on Ground Zero. Anyway, besides all the crap the Guardian has been spitting out over the last few days - does the fact that the mosque is being funded by people tied to terrorism not bother them. No doubt the weak and feeble, with no incentive to investigate the truth themselves, will soak up all of the guardians bullsh1t.

Also, parts of the plane hit and damaged the building, so it is in effect part of Ground Zero.

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Wait, it gets duller. It's not being built by extremists either.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-UDl3j8WZQ

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Also, it isn't a mosque.
They think if it has a gym and a swimming pool, it's no longer a Mosque... Thick cnuts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFzFIDbKpg
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The journalists of the Guardian are so stuck in a Liberal mindset that I don't think the terrorist links of those funding the Mosque is going to bother them.

All people with common sense know that there is definitely something wrong with building an Islamic center so close to where so many Americans died because of Islam.
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I suppose none of the below is important to the Guardian either.......

Atlas Shrugs says: Here are a couple of soundbites of tolerance:

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf: "We tend to forget, in the West, that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al Qaida has on its hands of innocent non Muslims. You may remember that the US-led sanctions against Iraq led to the death of over half a million Iraqi children. This has been documented by the United Nations. And when Madeleine Albright, who has become a friend of mine over the last couple of years, when she was Secretary of State and was asked whether this was worth it, said it was worth it.

Atlas Shrugs says: No mention of the 270 million victims of over a millennium of jihadi wars, land appropriations, cultural annihilation and enslavement. No mention of the recent slaughter by Muslims of Christians, Hindus, Jews, non-believers in Indonesia, Thailand, Ethiopia, Somalia, Philippines, Lebanon, Israel, Russia, China................ no candor, no criticism of Islam.

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Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf: "The West needs to begin to see themselves through the eyes of the Arab and Muslim world, and when you do you will see the predicament that exists within the Muslim community."

Atlas Shrugs says: On the question of reforming Islam and expunging the texts of the threat doctrine and mandated violence and conquest:

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf: On the issue of the reformation, in terms of what is again intended by it, Islam does not need a reformation.

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf: "So men will say: women, you know, they're emotional, ..... whatever, whatever, and women will say: men, they're brutes, insensitive, etcetera, and you have the beginning of a gender conflict. If gender is not what distinguishes us we'll look at skin colouring and say: n#####s or whities, or whatever"

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Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf: And when we observe terrorism, whether it was done by the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka or by al Qaida or whoever is behind the bombings in London or those in Madrid

Atlas Shrugs says: Note, when he says about the London and Madrid bombings,that was five days after the London attacks and over a year after Madrid. It was common knowledge who the perps were at that time.

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf: That's a very common question. In fact, just about two months ago I was interviewed by Barbara Walters, who is doing a special on heaven and she's interviewed suicide bombers who are expecting the embraces of 72 virgins in paradise, and she asked me do women get the same privilege as well, and I answered her telling her: well, the Koran says you shall have whatever your heart desires

Atlas Shrugs says: And the Imam is conspiracy theorist - 911 was an inside job:

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf: How many of you have seen the documentary: Fahrenheit 911? The vast majority - at least half here. Do you remember the scene of the Iraqi woman whose house was bombed and she was just screaming, "What have they done." Now, I don't know, you don't know Arabic but in Arabic it was extremely powerful. Her house was gone. Her husband, I think, was killed. What wrong did he do? I found myself weeping when I watched that scene and I imagined myself if I were a 15-year old nephew of this deceased man, what would I have felt? Collateral damage is a nice thing to put on a paper but when the collateral damage is your own uncle or cousin, what passions do these arouse? How do you negotiate? How do you tell people whose homes have been destroyed, whose lives have been destroyed, that this does not justify your actions of terrorism. It's hard. Yes, it is true that it does not justify the acts of bombing innocent civilians, that does not solve the problem, but after 50 years of, in many cases, oppression, of US support of authoritarian regimes that have violated human rights in the most heinous of ways, how else do people get attention?

Atlas Shrugs says: And while Imam Faisal speaks of tolerance and so forth, he commiserates with worst extremists and inciters to genocide:

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf: The broader community is in fact criticising and condemning actions of terrorism that are being done in the name of Islam. I just came from a conference in Jordan, Amman where there were over 170 leading Muslim scholars from almost every part of the Muslim world, including some of the most important names like Sheikh Tantawi of Egypt, Sheikh Ali Gomaa, who is the Chief Mufti of Egypt, the Chief Mufti of Jordan, the Sheikh Al-Qaradawi, who is a very very well known Islamic jurist, highly regarded all over the Muslim world.

Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi (more Atlas Qaradawhi coverage here:

Vile antisemitism from Sheikh Al-Qaradawi


and

Al-Qaradawi praising Hitler's antisemitism




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Why don't the media in the USA report on what Atlas Shrugs has reported on? How can lefties say the media in the US "is against Muslims" when the media doesn't even expose what Atlas Shrugs has exposed.

This Mosque must be stopped, SIOA must not surrender, and that is something I don't think the EDL or SIOA are going to do.

Long live the anti-Jihad movements.
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The building where the muslims want to build their mosque was struck by the landinggear of one of the planes that struck the WTC.
Therefore it doesn't matter if this place is at Ground Zero or not, it's not the criterium we should use.
What matters is that they build it right upon the afflicted area.
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We-Are-The-British, stuff is getting out into the media (and it is getting all over the blogsphere), they, the media (especially the Guardian), CAIR and Daisy Khan (Rauf's floosie) et al, are busy crucifying Atlas at the mo lol - too busy shooting the messenger and don't forget we're dealing with those who are apologists and appeasers of radical islam and marxism.

Many are awaiting more revelations from Emerson who is busy going through hours of Rauf's words on tape and other stuff, can't wait for that. I bet Rauf the stealth jihadist is having to change his underwear more than usual lol.
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The Grauniad is parroting an internal language memo that Associated (with terrorists) Press sent out to their "reporters" telling them not to call it the Ground Zero Mosque anymore. Watch closely, from now on they'll put that phrase in "scare quotes" at all times if they even use it.
Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009.


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They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back.
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god, just wasted 2 minutes of my life reading that trash ... thats not a fcuking paper, its a propaganda machine in full swing full of piss poor journalist and piss poor stories .....

they are deluded and really are blinded to the fact that of all the places in new york, hell America as to why the mosques has to be built smack bang in ground zero area .... fcuking leftist morons
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Aug 24 2010, 01:59 AM
The Mosque should not be built anywhere near Ground Zero. New York is massive, why won't they build the Mosque somewhere else?
Like Islamabad or Tehran, bloody good idea; and anyone dare says the EDL are against the building of mosques, well , there notable by their silence. :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg_iDPRud_c
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No matter what they say, it's like rubbing coarse sea salt in the wound. The location, name, inauguration day, the whole lot..

People in the USA are boiling over this one. In the end this project, whether it manifests or not, just helps with work against jihadis. Unfortunately all non-jihadi muslims get their fair share of sh1t at the same time.
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Aug 24 2010, 11:11 AM
Unfortunately all non-jihadi muslims get their fair share of sh1t at the same time.
Whether they choose to use violent or non-violent - Jihad is compulsory in Islam.
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Aug 24 2010, 11:31 AM
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Unfortunately all non-jihadi muslims get their fair share of sh1t at the same time.
Whether they choose to use violent or non-violent - Jihad is compulsory in Islam.
Yes. I was referring to muslims who are not extremists.
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If this goes ahead the same people who were overjoyed when the WTC was bombed, will no doubt be congratulating themselves with a great victory over the infidel.
That guy should go to the steps of the proposed building and read his piece out and see the reaction.
The organisers of this "cultural centre" knew this would cause this upset, but could not give one hoot, in fact thats why they want it there.
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Follow the money trail. The good old "Who benefits from this?" question springs up.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/jihad-articles/ali-sina-on-ground-zero-mosque-cordova-house/
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Well written piece. All America (and the UK) should read it
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Aug 24 2010, 11:31 AM
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Unfortunately all non-jihadi muslims get their fair share of sh1t at the same time.
Whether they choose to use violent or non-violent - Jihad is compulsory in Islam.
so true,it seem they all have the same agender wether they shout it from the roof tops or whisper it at home.This whole thing is going to end in a modern day holocaust ,its sounds crazy but can you see any other end ?
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Aug 24 2010, 04:31 PM
Well written piece. All America (and the UK) should read it
Indeed. Glad you liked it.
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Aug 24 2010, 05:50 PM
This whole thing is going to end in a modern day holocaust, it sounds crazy but can you see any other end?
I prefer Geert Wilders approach myself. :)
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can you imagine the security on the GZM.
ill give it 12 months IF it goes ahead before its a pile of rubble.
those right wing fundamentalists over there dont fook about.
remember olklahoma.
(tho they do rekon mcveigh was setup...but everything over the ponds a conspiracy)
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I've just done a bit more digging on this subject, and thought I would share it...

To see what the Mosque looks like now on Google Street View, click HERE (zoom-out a bit). As you can see, currently it is an old, pretty small, disused building called the 'Burlington Coat Factory'.

To see how high it will be in the near future, click HERE.

So the Mosque will be at the top-floor, and Islamists will be able to look out of the window, and straight down at Ground Zero.
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Does anyone know WHEN they purchased the building. Was it before or after 911?

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Sep 1 2010, 05:31 PM
Does anyone know WHEN they purchased the building. Was it before or after 911?

Purchased in J\uly 2009 by Sharif El-Gamal and was then convinced by the Imam to build a Mosque

Before the 2009 purchase it laid abandoned for years.
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If anyone is puzzled about the hight of the building in Google Map's 'Street View', this should make things easier to visualize...

The Two buildings highlighted in Green will become One big building. That building will be about twice the size of the Pink building on the left.

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Does anyone know WHEN they purchased the building. Was it before or after 911?

Purchased in J\uly 2009 by Sharif El-Gamal and was then convinced by the Imam to build a Mosque

Before the 2009 purchase it laid abandoned for years.
Thanks for the info.


So basically they purchased a building as close to ground zero as possible.
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Does anyone know WHEN they purchased the building. Was it before or after 911?

Purchased in J\uly 2009 by Sharif El-Gamal and was then convinced by the Imam to build a Mosque

Before the 2009 purchase it laid abandoned for years.
Thanks for the info.


So basically they purchased a building as close to ground zero as possible.
it would seem so mate.

They have been offered land else where by the governor of New York.

The Imam kindly declined.


Its obvious what is going on.
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so they bought the mosque nr to ground zero, in the full knowledge that the planes were going to hit the towers ..... mmm i wonder ...
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Sep 1 2010, 06:24 PM
so they bought the mosque nr to ground zero, in the full knowledge that the planes were going to hit the towers ..... mmm i wonder ...
nope if I read that right they purchased it in 2009
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Can someone pass me the Guardian as I need a sh!t
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so they bought the mosque nr to ground zero, in the full knowledge that the planes were going to hit the towers ..... mmm i wonder ...
nope if I read that right they purchased it in 2009
*face palm*

long day and thought it read 1999 .....

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Hostage situation at Usa Discovery channel. Sky new say reports of explosives.


Live stream

http://www.tbd.com/articles/2010/09/discovery-communications-headquaters-in-silver-spring-evacuated-7172.html
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I should imagine that people will be coming from as far as Saudi Arabia to see Ground Zero the new Mosque.
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Hostage situation at Usa Discovery channel. Sky new say reports of explosives.


Live stream

http://www.tbd.com/articles/2010/09/discovery-communications-headquaters-in-silver-spring-evacuated-7172.html
Hostage takers myspace!

http://www.myspace.com/worldguardian

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Can someone delete Bandit's post's. They're completely off topic.
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[1/4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3bOmhfHoaM
[2/4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHx9boX__Og
[3/4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsCo8_p68yk
[4/4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdBdbC5rbnE
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the thick cnuts will be looking down at ground zero and laughing in between their chest-slapping. One more nail in USA's box if this goes through I'm afraid, looks like the brits will have to pick up the pieces again ;)
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