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People who got run over
Topic Started: Jul 18 2010, 12:59 AM (2,612 Views)
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http://fitwatch.org.uk/2010/07/edl-trash-houses-and-asian-businesses.html

A photo of EDL getting treated after being run down.
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Dudley woman
Jul 18 2010, 02:58 PM
its just stupid........... we now are waiting for the ob to turn up, they should be here anytime soon, so i will have more info on whats happening then.
youll be waiting 3 days then no doubt :(
if your lass wore a bhurka shed be on the front page of every national paper.
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Jul 18 2010, 08:55 PM
http://fitwatch.org.uk/2010/07/edl-trash-houses-and-asian-businesses.html

A photo of EDL getting treated after being run down.
What a load of biased sh1te, is that how they honestly see it? My God why not write a kids book in future with the EDL as the Big Bad Wolf
Winston Churchill 'A man does what he must - in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures - and that is the basis of all human morality'
Cecil Rhodes "Remember that you are an Englishman, and have consequently won first place in the lottery of life".

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Jul 18 2010, 02:58 PM
its just stupid........... we now are waiting for the ob to turn up, they should be here anytime soon, so i will have more info on whats happening then.
Hope the girl is ok and my family is gutted for the hurt you and yours have been caused by this.
If you think that your sword is to short,advance toward your enemy.
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Jul 18 2010, 08:59 PM
Dudley woman
Jul 18 2010, 02:58 PM
its just stupid........... we now are waiting for the ob to turn up, they should be here anytime soon, so i will have more info on whats happening then.
youll be waiting 3 days then no doubt :(
if your lass wore a bhurka shed be on the front page of every national paper.

Ain't that the truth.
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Jul 18 2010, 08:30 PM
The lies have begun then. Convenient that this 'eye-witness' doesn't want to be named.

A girl was nearly murdered and the mercury want to protect the perpetrator because he's ethnic.

Heart warming stuff.
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well they came....... after alot of shouting from me the ob took a statement from my daughter. and i was told they might not prosicute the driver as he was fleeing for his life with his wife and children in the car. i am totally gob struck
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id like to say im suprised. :-/
but we all knew it was coming.

get lots of witness statements off people off here mate.
WMP are corrupt to the core.
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my daughter cried for ages they made her feel like she was in the wrong by going to the protest and by crossing over the road
Just before the lunatic hit her
Edited by Dudley woman, Jul 18 2010, 10:12 PM.
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and they have evidence to prove he was fleeing for his life do they?

Wankers southampton had to leave 2 boys up in dudley with the injured members from that division. we went to the hospital with them and there was no way it was a accident according to them!!!
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well ob said they have had 50 statements saying it was a accident, even from those in the hospital .......................so shafted
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See a solicitor about a private prossecution!
You have witnesses, the police have an obligation to provide all evidence to you'r solicitor this will include the drivers name and adderess, as well as his / their statement and all officer involvement!
This may be enough to encourage them to prosecute! ..... best of luck!

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Jul 18 2010, 10:12 PM
my daughter cried for ages they made her feel like she was in the wrong by going to the protest and by crossing over the road
Just before the lunatic hit her
a few months back a lad in oldham got took the wrong way home in a taxi by a muslim taxi driver,he was led into a trap,robbed and beaten,
he got dumped but dragged along by the taxi.lost an ear and ended up in hospital brain damaged.
the police came round to see his mother AND ACCUSED HER OF BEEN RACIST while her lad was lying brain damaged after been robbed.
they warned her to say nothing to the press.she reported them but nothing came of it.
A WEEK later the story appeared in the oldham chronicle and the story wasnt that he'd been robbed and beaten but it was 'race attack rumours untrue'.

thats why im not in the slightest bit suprised by WMP.
these police in these kind of areas are bizzarely invertedly racist towards the locals.
(the locals sorted the matter in the above story).

all this crap goes deeper but nows not the time ,

hope they all get well mate .
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Jul 18 2010, 10:25 PM
well ob said they have had 50 statements saying it was a accident, even from those in the hospital .......................so shafted
LIES -
100% we need 100 saying it wasnt.
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The West Muslim Police have a lot to answer for. The Primary objective for any Police force is the safety of the population and preventing threats to it. Now I feel that just because this Girl had gone to support the EDL and was hit by I presume a violent member off the community (no way a family man if reports are anything to go on) Now let's reverse the situation a moment, the person hit by the car is a EDL member and the hit is a Muslim, the driver would be locked up,tried and sentenced before the sun had set. We sadly live in a time when it has become laws for us (UK population) and them (Muslims) though luckily not Shariad
Winston Churchill 'A man does what he must - in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures - and that is the basis of all human morality'
Cecil Rhodes "Remember that you are an Englishman, and have consequently won first place in the lottery of life".

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well look at the way the dudley two ( the roof top 2) got treated and banged up and they didnt hurt any 1 but other than fly a flag.
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Unfrecknbelievable
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Jul 18 2010, 10:25 PM
well ob said they have had 50 statements saying it was a accident, even from those in the hospital .......................so shafted
I dont believe they have 50 statements, probably not even 5. They are lying.

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i just cant find the words. so im now gonna help my daughter up stairs (well carry her crutches while she shuffles upstairs on her bum) to bed.
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Jul 18 2010, 10:33 PM
Unfrecknbelievable
50 statements sayiny it was accident
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Who do the people work for who have made 50 statements? I wonder...........
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thats what he said in my lounge this afternoon
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i was at the demo and in the town. i know at least 4 people that were no more than 20 feet from the car as it struck your daughter her bf and the others i have all thier accounts of the incident and its all the same the bmw was driven by an african man and an asian man passanger, they ran directly into the cround on purpose. one of my friends also took a video of the scence moments after it happend i have acces ton this video it shows no less than 3 people laying in the road one covered by a white blanket and someone rubbing her on the back one more laying about 2 meters away and another just laying on the pavement all the time no ambulance... pm me if i can help you at all im sure all the people i speak of can confirm and will be willing to help or pass on the video, also all arte saying that it was totally deliberate and the police opend the line and let the attackers go. also i they all said there was one person that looked extreamly bad and it didnt look like that person was going to make it possibly the one in resus you spoke of


This is contradictatory to WMP's version! If the video shows the car leaving with two men you have them by the short and curlies!

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Dont give up hope, if the other victims of the road rage can be gathered and give statements, then they will have to act. The fact that the copper said they had received 50 other statements could come back to haunt him.

If you can speak to him and ask him to confirm to you that they had 50 other statements, I doubt they take 50 statements in murder inquiry, besides its absolutely irrelevant, they could be all nonsense.

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The first section above was an earlier post (not mine)
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Get something in writing off the copper who said 50 statements.
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I really hope there's a video there somewhere.
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If there is video of the car leaving the scene with 2 adult males, then the copper and the media are bang to rights, please dont drop it, thats what the coppers want you to do, they are lying to you and bullying you, the more i think about it, the more laughable is their statement that they have 50 statements.

Its important that as many victims come forward, you need to get the copper to confirm that they have 50 statements saying it was an accident, watch him run a mile when he sees that you cant be lies and obstructed.

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beggars belief. I'm pretty sure that the car must have been picked up on a camera somewhere and IF it were the case that it was a coloured guy and an Asian then the whole story about his wife and kids is shot out of the water.

I wonder if any local shops picked it up on cctv and if they would even hand it over? I doubt it. Either way I have seen the OB way out of hand before on numerous occasions and to be honest once they have made up their minds you are pretty much screwed.
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Wishing your Daughter , her fella and all the others injured a speedy recovery Dudley woman.
WMP have now shown us 3 times their intentions and their curruptness. Of all the demo's I have been on WMP have really been the only ones intent on getting us hurt one way or annother.
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Jul 18 2010, 11:36 PM
Wishing your Daughter , her fella and all the others injured a speedy recovery Dudley woman.
WMP have now shown us 3 times their intentions and their curruptness. Of all the demo's I have been on WMP have really been the only ones intent on getting us hurt one way or annother.
your right hoops they are the worst police force in england
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Jul 18 2010, 10:25 PM
well ob said they have had 50 statements saying it was a accident, even from those in the hospital .......................so shafted

Don't believe a word of it...they haven't had time

to track down and take 50 witness statements yet, for a start off.

It's cobblers.
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This totally unbeleivable......im in total shock hearing what the WMP have said.

Where in town did this happen, i was at a scene of an accident not far from netto's not sure if its the same one
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I agree, it is a loada garbage. Think about it. 50 written statements, within 24 hours and you, DW, were at the end of their queue? Add to that possible other statements who disagree it was an accident. It would be laughable if it wasn't so darn serious. Someone is trying to fob you off.

People who witnessed things should try and make notes now whilst it is all still fresh in your minds.

Don't let these bastards get away with lying and covering up a crime.
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All old bill are scum,not just WMP, some people on ere have got to relise that they aint your friend,if you have been going to football matches for years you would know that.
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I have seen many sides of the OB. Being ex squaddie I also undersatnd the constraints they serve under, beeing a football lad I see other sides too.
Dont mix the football with what we are doing here as I can 100% say the treatment is not the same from many forces. Most treat us with dignity and respect when we turn up for demos ( unlike that I have experienced when we have turned up for football ).
The WMP are the exception to that rule in spades, they have deliberately encouraged ( or ran off from ) violence against us. Have been guilty of leaving us in small numbers vunerable and arrested or battered as the mood fits.
I am not anti OB, I have witnessed many different sides to them, I am now very anti WMP who I see as a seprate entity all together.
People find things as they see them through their own life experiences, so these are mine. Some are worth the bother, some like the WMP most definatley aint!
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I just think the whole thing was a fcuking joke i spoke to 3 or 4 OB who agreed with what i was saying and wished us well then the others were cnuts of the highest order.

Dont suppose anyone got photos of the people of dudley coming out there houses and cheering or of the old couple at the cross roads by the museum who brought lemonade and orange juice out for us?? we'll send those to the wmp and 'news reporters' who claimed we were unwanted rascist thugs and brought it on ourselves!!!

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Sorry to jump in here, was this an anti Islam demonstration? Are there any news reports? And why are the police not responding?
"An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last."
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Going from the info on the forum. The 50 statements will undoubtedly be the Police Cordon (and their friends) who bravely allowed the culprits to get away from the scene of an accident. A matter they should have undoubtedly dealt with there and then.
If they were to do a thorough investigation, they could check CCTV and ANPR in the area, which will have been there without question, the images can be then used as prosecution or defence.
I reiterate a point I made earlier, even if this man was innocent (bollox) and was being attacked, firstly his car will have marks of vandalism (but I wouldn't be surprised if this was added later) Though CCTV, ANPR can help verify this. Is it honestly an excuse to run down 6 people and then flee from the scene, through a Police cordon, when if he felt he was the victim, the natural instinct is to stop and report your victimisation to a Police Officer (The natural instinct is to stop and see if the people you have hit are alright).
I also reiterate we have all drove through crowds before at football, when fans are all over your car, the truth of the matter is you do not floor it with 6 people in front of your car, unless you do not give a toss.
Hitting 6 people is NOT an accident at the very least it is driving without due care and attention, possibly dangerous driving, but in truth is probably attempt murder. However you won't see that charge come from an attack by motor vehicle (very, very rarely)
I said it at the top of this thread. It sounds like a stitch up. On this matter alone, every witness including your daughter NEEDS to speak to the IPCC regarding this most serious matter. I was pleased with their help previously.

http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/
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Jul 18 2010, 02:13 PM
http://www.sundaymercury.net/news/midlands-news/2010/07/18/six-injured-and-20-arrested-during-english-defence-league-protest-in-dudley-66331-26875720/

A 16 YEAR-old girl suffered a broken leg as six people were knocked over “like skittles” by a car fleeing far-right protesters in the Black Country.

Cops said the driver of the car had come forward after ploughing through a group of English Defence League (EDL) supporters in Dudley yesterday afternoon.

The six, aged between 16 and 42, were hit at the junction of King Street and High Street at 4pm as cops attempted to stamp out disorder following a protest against plans for a mosque in the town.

A eye-witness said EDL supporters had surrounded the car and may have thrown stones, or cans of beer, at it.

Asking not to be named, he said: “The driver must have panicked and put his foot down. They were thrown up into the air like skittles.

“It looked like he was trying to get away. He’d stopped at the traffic lights and then they were all around the car.

“I could hear bangs but I didn’t know if they were punching the car or throwing stones, or cans, at it.”

The youngest to be hurt, a 16-year-old-girl suffered a broken leg while others were left with head, leg and foot injuries.

A West Midlands Police spokesman said: “We are in the early stages of the investigation but initial accounts suggest a family car was caught up in a pocket of protesters. Whilst trying to work its way clear the car collided with some of the protesters.”


OH DEAR...
thats that then!
anger level rising.
Can't stand this kind of comment made in the Sunday Mercury report:

Jim Nicholls, from Shropshire, who is a teacher in Dudley, said his father fought the Nazis to stamp out the views held by the EDL.
He came face to face with members of the group who had to be pulled away by their own stewards as the argument threatened to spill into violence.
After the confrontation Mr Nicholls remained defiant. “I won’t be scared by them,” he declared.
“It’s an absolute disgrace, traders have had to shut down because of this. My father fought against the Nazis against these things. This is how it started in the 1930s.”


My Dad fought against the Nazi's too but AGAINST the scum that EDL are AGAINST not the views & aims of the EDL. Would his father have wanted to see what's happening now in this country & have wanted his son to be AGAINST the EDL who stand up for the values he fought for? Perhaps his father might've been against EDL values, but that would be minimal by far the view of our heroes in general. The West Midlands Gestapo Police might've reminded his father more of the Nazi's than anything else on Saturday!!

I (& Kent & Essex Div.) hope that those injured recover fully both physically (& mentally) from their terrible experience. Come forward ANYONE who was witness to what happened otherwise the WMP will yet again get away with a cover up.


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For starters. Anybody, pedestrian or otherwise is entitled to the drivers insurance details. It is also an offence for a driver to leave the scene of an accident.

At the very least that driver should have stopped the other side of the police cordon.

Normal people don't run folks over then fcuk off. :ermm:
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For starters. Anybody, pedestrian or otherwise is entitled to the drivers insurance details. It is also an offence for a driver to leave the scene of an accident.

At the very least that driver should have stopped the other side of the police cordon.

Normal people don't run folks over then fcuk off. :ermm:
Perhaps they were WMP under-cover ethnic squad! Why else were they allowed to go on their way?!!! Seriously tho' what a disgrace! :$
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I just finished reading the story from the link, it stinks to high heaven..This story was written with obvious bias.From the story it seems the only people the police were interviewing were the ones who were there demonstrating against the EDL...How convenient.
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Just looked at the photo of the injured. There is no apparent skid marks on the road. Can anyone confirm if there were skid marks on the road at the scene of the accident, indicating the driver tried to brake or swerve to avoid the pedestrians. If anyone is local a photo wouldn't go amiss.
Did the vehicle blow his horn or flash lights to warn pedestrians he was coming??? Guessing not.
Did he go through a red light???? It says he was at the lights.
I presume all those injured in this accident will be claiming compo through this guys insurance, least his premiums will go through the roof next year if the OB don't do feck all.
I was going to mention leaving the scene of an accident is a criminal offence but someone beat me to it. Scott Lee (you didn't go to Hudds Uni did you? I knew a scott lee from there, good footy player)
I also hear the Police suggested it was your daughters fault for being there. 2 things wrong with this. A) Police are supposed to be impartial, reserve judgements and B) It was a public highway, she had every right to be there. A section 14 aside. A 16 year old girl doesn't know what that is, and still does not preclude I believe someone walking freely without the threat of being run over.
Denying her this freedom would be prejudice/discriminatory to your daughter, as proven by burglars and trespasses who are injured in/on private property can still claim against the people they are violating.
There is a need for all independant witnesses to this to come foward and report to the IPCC if that is where you decide to complain to. If you use the same ref numbers given to you. It will pull it all together nicely. I wish you the best of luck with your claims.
Finally, I imagine it is small compensation right now, but the fact that those injured have spilled blood for their country may bring them heart in the future.
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Just looked at the photo of the injured. There is no apparent skid marks on the road. Can anyone confirm if there were skid marks on the road at the scene of the accident, indicating the driver tried to brake or swerve to avoid the pedestrians. If anyone is local a photo wouldn't go amiss.
Did the vehicle blow his horn or flash lights to warn pedestrians he was coming??? Guessing not.
Did he go through a red light???? It says he was at the lights.
I presume all those injured in this accident will be claiming compo through this guys insurance, least his premiums will go through the roof next year if the OB don't do feck all.
I was going to mention leaving the scene of an accident is a criminal offence but someone beat me to it. Scott Lee (you didn't go to Hudds Uni did you? I knew a scott lee from there, good footy player)
I also hear the Police suggested it was your daughters fault for being there. 2 things wrong with this. A) Police are supposed to be impartial, reserve judgements and B) It was a public highway, she had every right to be there. A section 14 aside. A 16 year old girl doesn't know what that is, and still does not preclude I believe someone walking freely without the threat of being run over.
Denying her this freedom would be prejudice/discriminatory to your daughter, as proven by burglars and trespasses who are injured in/on private property can still claim against the people they are violating.
There is a need for all independant witnesses to this to come foward and report to the IPCC if that is where you decide to complain to. If you use the same ref numbers given to you. It will pull it all together nicely. I wish you the best of luck with your claims.
Finally, I imagine it is small compensation right now, but the fact that those injured have spilled blood for their country may bring them heart in the future.
Lucas sums it up pretty good there... I also agree... there should be accident scene photos... there should be clear skidmarks if the driver had made any attempt at all to stop.
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thanks lucas.
I asked the ob yesterday for the name of the driver i was told he couldnt do that, i asked if i could claim against his insurance and i was told probley not, as the police are probley not going to charge him.as my daughter was waiting to cross the road she could hear a car revving its enginge traffic lights then changed and she was hit, the ob said he then drove a safe distance away and then rang the police to report that he had hit serveral people,
I really think i need to see about gettin sum one in the legal proffession to help with this because im hearing so many different things, i just aint got a clue what i should be asking for or what i should be doing next?
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The west mids police are a fcukin disgrace to the uniform , but like I have stated on here it doesnt come as any supprise, because there provisional wing ACPO! have been been bedfellows with Nu Labour and appeasment of Islamic Jihad is there common coin!


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i wasnt there but if they do not prosercute i say we protest dudley police station at every possible oppertunity untill we feel justice has been achieved
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please please people we need to help this women and her daughter
i feel some sort of legal team needs to be sorted
i simply cant believe someone nearly died and and the west muslim police wankers wanna brush it offff. NO NO NO this cannot be allowed as this shows the wrong message, we look after are own SIMPLE
dudley woman if i can help i will and i will dip my hand in my pocket again for the legal team as i did for snowy and leon.
we need unity as together we are strong.
im glad all the people are gonna make a good recovery.
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Use Legal Aid, thats what all the Islamisters do.
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DW, did you ask the ob if they gave the driver a breath test?
You really need to do some research on this, find out your rights.
Speak to Citizens Advice asap as well.

Also, meant to say, you should go to the scene and take as many photographs of the area as you can.

Something else I remembered. Did the hospital give your daughter a form explaining what her injuries were?

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http://www.thompsons.law.co.uk/road-traffic-accidents/road-traffic-accidents-involving-pedestrians.htm

DW, do as much as you can to gather information as to what you should do. Look at the above link.

Here is another link: http://www.thelegalline.co.uk/road_traffic_accidents/road-traffic-accidents-involving-pedestrians.html - on this link it says you need to contact a specialist lawyer who will advise you. You could find out how much it would cost and let us know. I will donate to help you.

Buy yourself a cheap folder and some A4 paper, make notes, save info from websites, get photos of the area, get as much info from your daughter and her boyfriend, although I should imagine she is not feeling up to discussing all of this right now, try to find out who else was involved or who got injured.

The attitude from the ob, well, I just find it a total disgrace.

Try and get as much advice as you can - get familiar with your daughters rights.
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