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Could apprenticeships and national service save England
Topic Started: Jun 2 2010, 12:12 PM (101 Views)
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I think this country is being screwed up by the amount of people who go to university as well as people who work in the public sector.Seeing British people on rallies like the UAF or pro Gaza rallies as well as the types who are so PC today seem to come from an university background or work in public sector.
If apprenticeships where made more available as well national service coming back do you think it would make people start to think for themselves and not having to follow the masses.
Sorry if i can not explain it a bit more but i wonder if anyone could help me with this thread.
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A good apprenticeship system is vital. But it will take a lot of work to get a decent one going.

Schools, universities and teacher training institutions are where you get brainwashed by PC, university most of all.

But people's mental growth is stunted in the primary school system where children are not taught to overcome life's hurdles. Every obstacle to achievement is removed from their paths because it's 'stressful' or not 'fun'.

National service? Dunno where I stand on that one. We have a fine professional Armed Forces. People call for National service when they see youth in a mess. I don't think national service will resolve the problems. It's PC and bulls**t pseudo-psychology in schools which has to be eradicated first.

I reckon.

And we've got no 'Protestant work ethic' any more. That's another thing which has been undone by 'progressive' liberal-left PC crap.
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Mate, trades are so thin on the ground these days. I'd love to get an apprenticeship, but it's diffiicult because there are so few around just now. I know many people in trades who have been laid off.

I do see where you're coming from though. I reckon National Service, as expensive as it would be, would be a great idea.

Not all students are ultra-PC UAF types though. I'm wanting to go to university, but am I f**k going to turn into onr of those deluded, clueless c**ts. I'm right wing, I'm nationalist, and I like it.
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Former soldier here, and given the lack of respect some ''young adults'' show now. National service in my mind would be a great thing to bring back.
Stop them hanging out on streets, and give them a sense of worth in thier own minds.

Same with young offenders, give them the choice, work off the debt to society with loads of cummunity work/labour, or give let them complete basic training with an option to stay if they want to after, and learn a trade.

Country has gotten too soft on youngsters now. And no guidance for them has resulted in the way they think or act.
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I agree with the university thing. They want everyone to go to uni and kids end up with a worthless degree, a lot of debt and not able to get a job. This on some cases just prolongs the time till young kids go on the dole.

I'm starting an engineering apprenticeship in September, whereas the majority of my classmates are goin to college no matter how poor there GCSE's are.
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at one time apprentiships were wide spread.if you wanted to learn a trade you served a minimum of 4 or 5 years to gain the qualifications.
all my family served their time in the shipyards and all went to sea in the merchant marine.infact there was a time when every single ship that sailed in the world had either a british captain or chief engineer.sadly there are no shipyards any more,and the aprrentiships on offer to the young people nowadays are sadley lacking in content.you cant learn a proper trade in 2 years.that was maggie thatchers legacy.
as for national service.well why not.i went in the army when i was 17.never did me any harm.taught me to grow up and fast.you learned team work and gained a sence of pride, of belonging,to your troop,squadron and regiment in that order.
with youth un employment the way it is at the moment and the chance of a lot of them unable to get jobs i think it wouldn,t be a bad idea.
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I'm trying to get a good apprenticeship for September but it's pretty hard.
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Could apprenticeships and national service save England? No - Muslim birth-rates.
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Jun 2 2010, 12:23 PM
Former soldier here, and given the lack of respect some ''young adults'' show now. National service in my mind would be a great thing to bring back.
Stop them hanging out on streets, and give them a sense of worth in thier own minds.
I Agree with the national service but whos gona look after and train them as im pretty sure the normal squaddie wouldnt, and could you imagine giving a chave a beasting in the Guardhouse (been there done that)they would cry there eyes out .. ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ I Want me mummy

Besides They have watered down basic since i was there ,its all please can you do this please can you go there mr Chave .

But i would be the First to Volunteer to train them as long as the PC brigade stayed out of it..
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National service would far too expensive, and would it work now that leftism and liberalism is so high, yet patriotism is so low?
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When we were one of the major global manufacturing bases there were apprenticeship's aplenty.

But since successive governments have driven manufacturing and craftsmanship out of this country with their crippling and greedy taxation, there is little if anything to really take an apprenticeship in.

National service would be a great idea and it has been discussed so many times before and the answer has always been that it would be too expensive and too impractical in this 'modern age'.

Poor little lambs might hurt themselves and sue somebody or worse die. :huh:
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