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Egyptian Coptic Christians; in the UK
Topic Started: Jun 1 2010, 09:27 AM (117 Views)
Idjut Bungmewonga
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Quite regularly in the forum, mention is made of the persecution of Egyptian Coptic Christians by islamists.
Egyptian Copts living in the UK actually organised a protest on the same day as the Stoke demo, so they could be worth forming links with, this seems to be the main group in the UK ;
http://www.copts.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1884&Itemid=2
Winston Churchill on Islam ; ' The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world....
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Great idea, plus are government does bugger all for persecuted Christians, they need a voice. Also the nigerian Christians have been getting butchered by the muslims as well.
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The Coptics resided in Egypt before the Islamic and Arab conquests; and clearly this is the culimination of Islamization.

Take over the religion, language, culture; and the enforce dhimmitude on the remainder and just chip away and belittle them via the legal system and other forms of daily persecution.

S.LDN KNIGHT - Well said about Nigeria but the only saving grace with Nigeria is that Christians are not meek and they fully understand then need to defend themselves.

Yes, many get massacred from time to time; however, they refuse to bow down to radical Islam and are trying to spread the Christian faith in northern Nigeria.

http://themoderntokyotimes.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/muslims-slaughter-christians-in-egypt/ - THIS IS MY ARTICLE AND IT WAS PUBLISHED ON MANY WEBSITES (FAITH FREEDOM, THE SEOUL TIMES,, AINA, COPTS.COM )

http://www.faithfreedom.org/5779 - THIS IS MY ARTICLE ABOUT NIGERIA .

Or go to yahoo.com or google.com search engine and enter my name
LEE JAY WALKER - EGYPT
LEE JAY WALKER - NIGERIA

Then articles will come up.

or if you just enter SUNNI ISLAMIC ZEALOTS (no need to add my name) then many of my articles will pop up quickly on the front page.

http://themoderntokyotimes.wordpress.com
http://islamicpersecution.wordpress.com
http://leejaywalker.wordpress.com
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Personally I think that we are a bit too 'rough and ready' for most 'religious' people.

Whilst you might get the Christian's sipping the occasional wine I can't see them joining us in the pub before a demo or wanting to march/demo with a bunch of piss-heads. :D :D

Still, no harm in contacting them. :)
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Idjut Bungmewonga
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Here is another Copt UK link
http://www.copticcentre.com/
Winston Churchill on Islam ; ' The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world....
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Idjut Bungmewonga
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Here is a Nigerian Christian link I found, its based in Nottingham ,but here must be others elsewhere in UK
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=90415655936
Winston Churchill on Islam ; ' The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world....
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Jun 2 2010, 05:47 AM
Personally I think that we are a bit too 'rough and ready' for most 'religious' people.

Whilst you might get the Christian's sipping the occasional wine I can't see them joining us in the pub before a demo or wanting to march/demo with a bunch of piss-heads. :D :D

Still, no harm in contacting them. :)
check out these christians!

http://www.tough-talk.com/

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Can you imagine if all these copts and nigerians came out on a demo! They couldnt call us racist anymore, would probably get called militant right wing christian extremists!!!!!!!!

Dont forget the persecuted christian pakistanis as well.
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S.LDN KNIGHT
Jun 1 2010, 09:51 AM
Great idea, plus are government does bugger all for persecuted Christians, they need a voice. Also the nigerian Christians have been getting butchered by the muslims as well.
took the words out of my mouth - totally agree
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LeeJay
Jun 2 2010, 02:58 AM
The Coptics resided in Egypt before the Islamic and Arab conquests; and clearly this is the culimination of Islamization.

Take over the religion, language, culture; and the enforce dhimmitude on the remainder and just chip away and belittle them via the legal system and other forms of daily persecution.

S.LDN KNIGHT - Well said about Nigeria but the only saving grace with Nigeria is that Christians are not meek and they fully understand then need to defend themselves.

Yes, many get massacred from time to time; however, they refuse to bow down to radical Islam and are trying to spread the Christian faith in northern Nigeria.

http://themoderntokyotimes.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/muslims-slaughter-christians-in-egypt/ - THIS IS MY ARTICLE AND IT WAS PUBLISHED ON MANY WEBSITES (FAITH FREEDOM, THE SEOUL TIMES,, AINA, COPTS.COM )

http://www.faithfreedom.org/5779 - THIS IS MY ARTICLE ABOUT NIGERIA .

Or go to yahoo.com or google.com search engine and enter my name
LEE JAY WALKER - EGYPT
LEE JAY WALKER - NIGERIA

Then articles will come up.

or if you just enter SUNNI ISLAMIC ZEALOTS (no need to add my name) then many of my articles will pop up quickly on the front page.

http://themoderntokyotimes.wordpress.com
http://islamicpersecution.wordpress.com
http://leejaywalker.wordpress.com
The reason being because Christianity and Judaism was more than like founded in this region of the world. So Muslims cannot be allowed to claim ancestoral ownership because the torrah and holy bible both mention Egypt an are much older than the Quran. We should be reaching out to these guys
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One of my friends is a Coptic Christian, she was going to come along to a demo, but was put off by the violence in the recent documentary.

We need more incident free demos like Newcastle before other groups will join.
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What about getting some Ahmadi muslims onside?
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Lord Nelson
Jun 2 2010, 06:40 PM
What about getting some Ahmadi muslims onside?
That is an interesting idea, as you probably know around 80 to 100 ahmadis were killed in pakistan a couple of days or so ago for being HERETICS.
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Great responses and it is clear that many people are worried about Islamization.

We should remember that people from Hindu and Sikh backgrounds from the Indian subcontinent already understand this reality and they have more knowledge about what it is like for real.

The same applies to Arabic speaking Christians irrespective if they are Coptic, Maronite, Chaldean, or whatever; their civilizations were take over by Islam.

Also, Nigerian Christians and Sudanese Christians in the U.K. understand the reality of Islamic sharia law, and for Sudanese Christians they also know about recent slavey in Sudan.

In truth you have a wealth of diversity in the U.K. who come from ethnic or religious groups who have suffered deeply because of Islamization and Sharia law.

Armenians were also massacred in 1915 by Turks and the same applies to Assyrian Christians and Greek Orthodox Christians and you have many from both communities in the U.K.

For many British people this is our future fear, that this will happen to us one day; however, for others, they know the reality of this.

Ahmadiyya Muslims, Baha'is, and many others could broaden the EDL but the million dollar question is simple; how?

Yes, outreach is needed but it takes time and resources.

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