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Anyone tried debating with revleft; The c**ts banned me
Topic Started: May 31 2010, 05:56 PM (392 Views)
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Anyone ever tried debating with revleft?

Well I was just debating with them, they were saying radical Islam in Britain is over-exaggerated. I said about how hate is being preached in Mosques and I talked about the "undercover mosque" programme. I also talked about how the goverment was ignoring Islamic hate in Britain.
I also metioned the credit card called "keepitmuslim" and if there was a credit card called something like "keepitenglish" it would be called racist.

Their response: they called me a racist, said I hated Muslims, said that there is radical Islam in Britain because of the actions of the UK and USA in the middle east. Before I could reply they banned me.

Which made me think, we debate, when someone comes with opposing views we debate with them. We don't ban them when they come up with a counter-argument.
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May 31 2010, 05:56 PM

Which made me think, we debate, when someone comes with opposing views we debate with them. We don't ban them when they come up with a counter-argument.
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May 31 2010, 05:56 PM
Their response: they called me a racist, said I hated Muslims, said that there is radical Islam in Britain because of the actions of the UK and USA in the middle east. Before I could reply they banned me.
<sarcasm>
Yup, they're right. 1400 years ago, the West launched a major air-assault on the Middle East and stole all of their oil (we put it all on the aircraft carriers or something). Next thing you know, radical Islam just sprung up out of no where... At least, I think that's what happened?
</sarcasm>
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You seem surprised you was banned........
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I've had a look & must heartily commend you on your attempt at educating them but any attempt at having a reasonable discusion with those people (I use that term in the loosest possible sense) is doomed to faliure.

They're such a self reichous bunch that they will ban anyone who seems intelligent enough to put forward any argumet that may destroy their narrow minded world view & you certainly fit that description, your arguments were reasonable & well put, you were more than a match for them so you had to be disposed of as quickly as possible.

You've earned serious brownie points from me for you effort though

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A debate on revleft!? lol you have no chance.

Been there, done that, got the ban. ;)
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On another note cant we make a keep it english card to highlight the issue...surely it should make headlines ?
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im lookin now the commie bastards
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People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.
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Yep, banned me with in my 1st post haha :)
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I frequently browse their forums, just for a quick laugh.

"This is still nationalism, something we oppose intensely. Tell me, as a young working class lad, what do you have in common with your boss, of the same nation no less, who chucks in the profit he makes over your back? Reducing your wage or giving you the sack if his profits aren't sustainable. Nothing! One has something in common with one's class. As a young worker you have more in common with an asian, black or muslim worker than you have with a British boss."

That is one of the most discriminitive, deluded, ignorant comments I have seen on there for a LONG time!
"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!"

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Please don't waste your time conversing with these loonies or any other leftist forum, you are just wasting precious minutes, hours etc. of your life. There are a few decent people, but you're never going to make any headway on a forum, dedicated to opposing groups such as the EDL. By all means, spend time reading up on their thoughts and tactics and learning, but don't engage.
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wonder who they want to win the world cup?
an england win would be disasterous for the far left.
the upsurge in partriotism would have them spitting dummies out all over the place.
you just have to remember theyre toy soldiers.
fkn mugs.
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gorgie rules
May 31 2010, 06:26 PM
As a young worker you have more in common with an asian, black or muslim worker than you have with a British boss."

That is one of the most discriminitive, deluded, ignorant comments I have seen on there for a LONG time!
If you said that an asian worker has more in common with a white worker than an asian boss they'd still call you racist.

They really are the most deluded non-thinking idiots on the interweb.
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http://www.revleft.com/vb/edl-supporter-here-t136030/index.html

Im not there ATM. Like RH said, there are a few decent posters but most just see me as a nazi fascist paedofile. To anyone who wants to try, dont bother. I think the only reason I was allowed to stay is because I was polite but saying that, Im banned everywhere else...
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We-Are-The-British
May 31 2010, 05:56 PM
Anyone ever tried debating with revleft?

Well I was just debating with them, they were saying radical Islam in Britain is over-exaggerated. I said about how hate is being preached in Mosques and I talked about the "undercover mosque" programme. I also talked about how the goverment was ignoring Islamic hate in Britain.
I also metioned the credit card called "keepitmuslim" and if there was a credit card called something like "keepitenglish" it would be called racist.

Their response: they called me a racist, said I hated Muslims, said that there is radical Islam in Britain because of the actions of the UK and USA in the middle east. Before I could reply they banned me.

They can't debate. I know you can't get nowhere with them and I just posted because what I saw annoyed me. They are blinded they can't see anything other than what they

Which made me think, we debate, when someone comes with opposing views we debate with them. We don't ban them when they come up with a counter-argument.
Are you 'Budd123' mate?
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just popped over to revleft for a nose around, reading the "debate" with edl in peace. came back here with a f**king headache.
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May 31 2010, 08:48 PM
We-Are-The-British
May 31 2010, 05:56 PM
Anyone ever tried debating with revleft?

Well I was just debating with them, they were saying radical Islam in Britain is over-exaggerated. I said about how hate is being preached in Mosques and I talked about the "undercover mosque" programme. I also talked about how the goverment was ignoring Islamic hate in Britain.
I also metioned the credit card called "keepitmuslim" and if there was a credit card called something like "keepitenglish" it would be called racist.

Their response: they called me a racist, said I hated Muslims, said that there is radical Islam in Britain because of the actions of the UK and USA in the middle east. Before I could reply they banned me.

They can't debate. I know you can't get nowhere with them and I just posted because what I saw annoyed me. They are blinded they can't see anything other than what they

Which made me think, we debate, when someone comes with opposing views we debate with them. We don't ban them when they come up with a counter-argument.
Are you 'Budd123' mate?
Yeah
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May 31 2010, 06:49 PM
Please don't waste your time conversing with these loonies or any other leftist forum, you are just wasting precious minutes, hours etc. of your life. There are a few decent people, but you're never going to make any headway on a forum, dedicated to opposing groups such as the EDL. By all means, spend time reading up on their thoughts and tactics and learning, but don't engage.
Wise words, take them on board people, you can't reason with lunatics.
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May 31 2010, 09:20 PM
just popped over to revleft for a nose around, reading the "debate" with edl in peace. came back here with a f**king headache.
Try being EDL_in_peace :huh:
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May 31 2010, 05:56 PM
Anyone ever tried debating with revleft?

Well I was just debating with them, they were saying radical Islam in Britain is over-exaggerated. I said about how hate is being preached in Mosques and I talked about the "undercover mosque" programme. I also talked about how the goverment was ignoring Islamic hate in Britain.
I also metioned the credit card called "keepitmuslim" and if there was a credit card called something like "keepitenglish" it would be called racist.

Their response: they called me a racist, said I hated Muslims, said that there is radical Islam in Britain because of the actions of the UK and USA in the middle east. Before I could reply they banned me.

They can't debate. I know you can't get nowhere with them and I just posted because what I saw annoyed me. They are blinded they can't see anything other than what they

Which made me think, we debate, when someone comes with opposing views we debate with them. We don't ban them when they come up with a counter-argument.
Hello WETB

I had a chat with Scorpius the other day as he was thinking of joining the Revleft forum to debate with them. I advised I thought there was very little point and you have obviously by your experience shown this to be true.

The issue with Leftists is that the whole point of them being Leftist is that is that they look at society on the grounds of a perceived victim status. Starting from the most basic concept is that the working classes are the victims of the middle and upper classes.

Moving on a national basis then they would see the north being the victim of the south and on a UK to British Isles basis the Scots, Welsh and Irish being the victims of the English. So for the likes of ethnic minorities then they perceive the likes of Muslims to be the victims of the British Empire and the US Empire by proxy that followed it.

Now there are areas of this assertion that have some level of historical truth however if you look into history then you find that things are far more complex than to simply on this basis and it is dangerous to do so. If you take the case of radical Islam in the UK and their assertion that this is down to UK/USA intervention in the ME. Al Qaeda was formed to restore the Caliphate and the entire Muslim Empire to its former borders. Hence this is not an act of reaction but an act of restoration of one of the most militarily and culturally aggressive Empires in history.

Likewise if was a French journo that coined the phrase 'Londonistan' which was down to Britain letting so many foreign radicals to settle here in the last term of the Conservative Gov't which was a policy continued in the early Blair years. So hardly as if it can be said that the radicalism was something spawned from 9/11 and the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq that followed.

The bottom line is though that Leftists don't want hear things like this as it challenges the black and white world of their extremist politics. So as I said to Scorpius a waste of time as Leftism is an ideology practised in such a way that those that follow do not want their mantra challenged.

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Don't bother with them, they don't do debate. A few of us tried to engage with them last year to no avail, what they do do though is try to justify peadophilia and other sick practices.
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May 31 2010, 06:26 PM
I frequently browse their forums, just for a quick laugh.

"This is still nationalism, something we oppose intensely. Tell me, as a young working class lad, what do you have in common with your boss, of the same nation no less, who chucks in the profit he makes over your back? Reducing your wage or giving you the sack if his profits aren't sustainable. Nothing! One has something in common with one's class. As a young worker you have more in common with an asian, black or muslim worker than you have with a British boss."

That is one of the most discriminitive, deluded, ignorant comments I have seen on there for a LONG time!
Hi Gorgie

Nice one. Maybe I should visit them and tell them I worked for a Co in the UK whose MD was Palestinian. I kid you not. In fact he was the one that headhunted me, employed me and I worked very closely with him whilst under his remit.

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May 31 2010, 10:10 PM
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May 31 2010, 05:56 PM
Anyone ever tried debating with revleft?

Well I was just debating with them, they were saying radical Islam in Britain is over-exaggerated. I said about how hate is being preached in Mosques and I talked about the "undercover mosque" programme. I also talked about how the goverment was ignoring Islamic hate in Britain.
I also metioned the credit card called "keepitmuslim" and if there was a credit card called something like "keepitenglish" it would be called racist.

Their response: they called me a racist, said I hated Muslims, said that there is radical Islam in Britain because of the actions of the UK and USA in the middle east. Before I could reply they banned me.

They can't debate. I know you can't get nowhere with them and I just posted because what I saw annoyed me. They are blinded they can't see anything other than what they

Which made me think, we debate, when someone comes with opposing views we debate with them. We don't ban them when they come up with a counter-argument.
Hello WETB

I had a chat with Scorpius the other day as he was thinking of joining the Revleft forum to debate with them. I advised I thought there was very little point and you have obviously by your experience shown this to be true.

The issue with Leftists is that the whole point of them being Leftist is that is that they look at society on the grounds of a perceived victim status. Starting from the most basic concept is that the working classes are the victims of the middle and upper classes.

Moving on a national basis then they would see the north being the victim of the south and on a UK to British Isles basis the Scots, Welsh and Irish being the victims of the English. So for the likes of ethnic minorities then they perceive the likes of Muslims to be the victims of the British Empire and the US Empire by proxy that followed it.

Now there are areas of this assertion that have some level of historical truth however if you look into history then you find that things are far more complex than to simply on this basis and it is dangerous to do so. If you take the case of radical Islam in the UK and their assertion that this is down to UK/USA intervention in the ME. Al Qaeda was formed to restore the Caliphate and the entire Muslim Empire to its former borders. Hence this is not an act of reaction but an act of restoration of one of the most militarily and culturally aggressive Empires in history.

Likewise if was a French journo that coined the phrase 'Londonistan' which was down to Britain letting so many foreign radicals to settle here in the last term of the Conservative Gov't which was a policy continued in the early Blair years. So hardly as if it can be said that the radicalism was something spawned from 9/11 and the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq that followed.

The bottom line is though that Leftists don't want hear things like this as it challenges the black and white world of their extremist politics. So as I said to Scorpius a waste of time as Leftism is an ideology practised in such a way that those that follow do not want their mantra challenged.

Regards
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It is like talking to a 3 year old, if they don't like it they'll have a tantrum. In this case their tantrum is a banhammer and giving you the feeling of extreme stress.

You'll get through to them more if you just make tons of threads and spam it with 'HAVE A WASH!', otherwise, they just won't listen.
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May 31 2010, 10:34 PM
It is like talking to a 3 year old, if they don't like it they'll have a tantrum. In this case their tantrum is a banhammer and giving you the feeling of extreme stress.

You'll get through to them more if you just make tons of threads and spam it with 'HAVE A WASH!', otherwise, they just won't listen.
Yes, one of them was asked a question and he keeps on dodging it.
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May 31 2010, 10:41 PM
Swag
May 31 2010, 10:34 PM
It is like talking to a 3 year old, if they don't like it they'll have a tantrum. In this case their tantrum is a banhammer and giving you the feeling of extreme stress.

You'll get through to them more if you just make tons of threads and spam it with 'HAVE A WASH!', otherwise, they just won't listen.
Yes, one of them was asked a question and he keeps on dodging it.
Because it doesnt suit 'there logic' mate. Going back to my point on page 16 'was Hamas's military coup and the destruction of the opposing fahta party democratic?' I got ''urm...well...urg...um Israel is also bad!''
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Just had a look at revleft and this one made me laugh well the last post did.

commies
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With the far left just as with the far right and any form of fundamentalism, reality dos not live up to the dream and so they get frustrated and then angry. O they will find those to blame for braking the
Idea, its not the dream that's wrong, o no its use, it we who do not understand our unwillingness to embrace the way has condemned us to life with out the dream ever having a chance to become reality.

locked in that loop they go mad, around and around getting more frustrated and more angry.

With this group you can see it, they live in a fantasy world of self delusion. Having being given a dream from some other they find the majority of human kinds is not is not going for it.

O the gnashing of teeth and wailing of there woman at this state of affairs

What marks one group from another is at which point the chose to use
Violence and terror on the unwilling masses to "make them see the light"

that's when the dream become the nightmare, Red October, baader meinhof gang, Timothy James McVeigh and Pick a name Muslim extremist group.

This left group is just that and nothing we should worry about,
a talking shop for dreamers is all it is.

Thinking one day

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"You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.”

O'Brien - 1984
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Superman is throwing the Sieg Heil there....
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I've just had a read of a few pages of this particular debate and its given me a massive headache.

There is clearly no talking to these people.
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I think its more hes "in to the blue" Pose but I see what you main
humm may have to reread "Red Son" again
see what other things I missed
Edited by Room 101, Jun 1 2010, 09:12 PM.

"You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.”

O'Brien - 1984
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Just been banned, Charge: Racism.
Post: ''No, just the majority. This is a British country remember. Our culture should always come ''

I do despare...
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Just been banned, Charge: Racism.
Post: ''No, just the majority. This is a British country remember. Our culture should always come ''

I do despare...
lmao what a joke!

I saw nothing racist in your post at all!
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The mods on there are going nuts deleting peoples posts!

I even think that the thread has now been closed... bloody facists! lol.
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Comrades? Is that Russian for TWATS?
Blistering Barnacles!
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Wow, I submitted a thread critiscing Communism and asking them why they support a fascist religion like Islam and they banned me. This was in the 'OPPOSING IDEOLOGIES' section. WTF?? I also asked why they ban people for disagreeing with them which is slightly ironic. Haha
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Wow, I submitted a thread critiscing Communism and asking them why they support a fascist religion like Islam and they banned me. This was in the 'OPPOSING IDEOLOGIES' section. WTF?? I also asked why they ban people for disagreeing with them which is slightly ironic. Haha
It's a total joke aint it.

Looks like they can't debate to save their lives, if they are criticised in any way regarding their beliefs then they ban you!

Simply put they have no argument, lol...
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just finished its not debate its more like constant rhetoric
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Reds trying to debate? wasting your time their mate they are too busy living in their fantasy world that everything is ok .

too much weed and needles in their arms is what i say

Commie c**ts
SDL!
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Sums it up really... that name is un-registered.
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I think this sums the tallywackers up better mate.
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I think this sums the tallywackers up better mate.
At least you got a reason. All mine said was 'bye'.
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