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| ukarmy | May 31 2010, 01:40 PM Post #1 |
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im sorry but these wankers have changed the skyline of london yet you people are so tunneled vision its alaways leave the sikhs build ther temples, leave the hindus to do what they like, leave and love the israeli jews to do what they want ...before you know it, there may no more muslims, but england will end up looking like a foreign jungle edl needs to change its stance quick see - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10196332.stm |
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| Battle of Lepanto | May 31 2010, 01:56 PM Post #2 |
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Architecturally, what an incredible building! Hand made using thousand year-old techniques, with not a piece of metal in it. Does it Hinduise the skyline? It certainly adds a Hindu element to it. Is it an attempt by Hindus to thrust themselves on the country and impose their beliefs on us? I don't see it that way. Does it 'ruin' the skyline? It's not nearly as crude as the London Eye. Are Hindus our allies in the struggle against islamic extremism? Yes. Have Hindus integrated and do they contribute to English society through their values and hard work? Yes. Based on evidence. Are Hindus born in this country English? Yes. If they feel it, they are. Do we have freedom of religious practice in this country? Yes. It's also an 'all-inclusive' temple with Sikh and Christian 'saints' - Guru Nanak and Mother Theresa. Edited by Battle of Lepanto, May 31 2010, 01:57 PM.
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 02:05 PM Post #3 |
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Excuse me!! Why on earth would we want to make a stand against Hindus, are they blowing up buses and tubes, are the Hindu priests radicalising youth into suicide bombers. The Temple looks good, quite amazing really and it'll bring in the tourists. Arthur. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 02:05 PM Post #4 |
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English and Hindus usually get along. I don't think they're trying to impose their culture on us. If the EDL do change their stance and protest aginst Hindus, we would look worse and besides its not what the EDL are about. Radical Islam is the main focus here and is a well bigger problem. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 02:06 PM Post #5 |
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it certainly doesn't worry me as much as yet another mosque being built. what do you mean by the edl needing to change it's stance? |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 02:08 PM Post #6 |
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hindus run our local shop and theyre great people. they detest the mosque over the rd. |
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| Good Knight | May 31 2010, 02:10 PM Post #7 |
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I get along with hindus and sikhs better than most english people. EDL does not need to change its stance. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 02:14 PM Post #8 |
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Hindu's actually don't have enough places of worship. The Royal Pavilion down here in Brighton is a building based on Indian architecture, and it's beautiful. Been here for hundreds of years, I'm glad the Hindus have got this building, as there's not enough places of worship for them. Not to mention, they don't go around pushing the buildings everywhere, using the excuse it's an community centre. They're not forcing their religion on anyone, they're not violently protesting and ect. Well done to the Hindu community, I will visit this when I'm next in London to get a taste of their magnificent culture. |
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| swfcpatriot | May 31 2010, 02:15 PM Post #9 |
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That is one impressive building. |
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| Tzipi5770 | May 31 2010, 02:19 PM Post #10 |
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Hindu and Buddist temples always good beautiful. Someone posted up statistics about religions before... How many followers and places of worship they had... Anyone still got that? |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 02:21 PM Post #11 |
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ukarmy, it doesn't sound like EDL is the organization for you. Perhaps you could find out if the BNP oppose this, and join them. You might find even they are not opposed to it. There must be some right-wing factional organization that you can find that will oppose it. Personally, I'm looking forward to going to have a look at it. IMO the western world is far too ignorant of how advanced Indian civilization was, whilst we were living in huts. Just because someone is proud to be British doesn't mean they can't be impressed by other cultures. Would I want to live in modern day India? I don't think so. Am I prepared to learn about them, their history and their culture. You bet. A friend of mine (a liberal leftie) had to visit lots of temples and mosques as part of some "community cohesiion" project. He said that all the people at the hindu temples were fantastic - kind and welcoming. He said the people at the mosques were hostile and unfriendly. And the whole of the tour party agreed. These are the kind of people who are looking to find the best in muslims, but many muslims just can't seem to help themselves being hostile. You won't find me willingly visiting a mosque. Unless it is something like the mezquita in Cordoba. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 02:33 PM Post #12 |
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I used to drive passed that every day when I used to work in Acton. Impressive building. Sorry, what was your point again? |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 02:35 PM Post #13 |
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Ash17 did I believe. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 02:36 PM Post #14 |
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What a magnificent building, Hindus are peacefull, Hindus are not trying to force their legal system into our country, Hindus are warm, friendly & extremely tolerant of other religions so why on earth would we be against them? I agree with the other people that maybe this group isn't right for you, personally I think you are a bit of a smelly troll who should go back under its bridge but that's just my opinion |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 02:41 PM Post #15 |
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I think he's literally an indymedia troll try to stem out racism. |
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| nosher | May 31 2010, 02:44 PM Post #16 |
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wot a work of art. got to go and see that.beautifull building |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 02:48 PM Post #17 |
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Why do these trolls hit and run? What do they think is going to happen? Post their bulls**t then log off quick smart. Lol Pesky kids!
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| Village | May 31 2010, 02:58 PM Post #18 |
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Ive marvelled at this amazing building as it has been constructed over the years. Its fantastic as I,m sure are the people that worship there. A few of my mates are Hindus and as English as they come. Ive been working on getting them on side as they suffer a lot of crap from the mussies too. All my other points have been covered above and I,m with Mr Sapien. There are other groups (?), who may feel the way you do, but this is not one of them. |
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| human target | May 31 2010, 03:04 PM Post #19 |
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Dear troll, As a Hindu I'm offended by your comments. If you're looking for an extremist group to share your views, i suggest you f&ck off and find one. And if you're an indymedia troll, well.. the comments left by the rank and file members a) makes me proud to be a member and b) let's you know where we're coming from and what we're actually about. As an aside, india has architecture from all culture and religions, most recently from the age of the british colonial architecture we don't pull them down, they serve a purpose and enhance the area. we have a piece of Britain there, we have a piece of India here. now f&ck off back under your bridge. Edited by human target, May 31 2010, 03:06 PM.
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| Good Knight | May 31 2010, 03:05 PM Post #20 |
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I think It looks really EPIC! |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 03:11 PM Post #21 |
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For balance here is some video of what the Muslim extremists think of Architecture, preferring instead to live in caves! |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 03:12 PM Post #22 |
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Same, stunning building. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 03:14 PM Post #23 |
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I must be the only one but, I don't like it.
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 03:17 PM Post #24 |
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pfft, you just don't appreciate fine architecture
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| ignominius | May 31 2010, 03:18 PM Post #25 |
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I don't have a problem with either Hindu temples, Sikh temples or Moslem mosques. My problem with mosques is two fold, one they are in large part funded by the Saudi's and open to wahabbist teachings from wahabbist immams and secondly, they are being used to impose islam on us through a cultural and architectural jihad. I bet that if you asked a group of Muslims if the new mosque they want built could be built in a style that blended in with our own architectural styles , they would riot. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 03:20 PM Post #26 |
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Let's try and get this in perspective. The Taliban destroyed the Bamiyan buddhas that had been in situ for 1500 years. These grand statues pre-dated the birth of Mohammed. They predated the murderous expansion of muslims into that region. They were a sign of the civilization that existed before islam destroyed that region of the world. They are a warning to us of what islamic fundamentalism is like. The Taliban spent days destroying these statues. Before they destroyed them Japan offered to encase them in concrete so that these savages did not have to be offended by the signs of an earlier and superior civilization (as you can imagine, the Japanese were slightly more tactful in their offer). But still those savages destroyed them. That was the day I decided that Afghanistan needed to be nuked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamyan We should appreciate the beauty and ingenuity of other civilzations. Only a barbarian would want otherwise. |
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| Jethro | May 31 2010, 03:27 PM Post #27 |
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It looks an interesting building but totally out of place with its surroundings like some thing you would find in an American theme park next to little Venice and the mock wall of china. |
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| ignominius | May 31 2010, 03:28 PM Post #28 |
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The Hindu civilisation might actually date back at least 10-15,000 years ago pre-dating the ancient societies of Ur and other Sumerian cities. Several large cities have been located off the coast of India. They gave us numerals that we used to day, including decimal placement. They gave us a system mathematics which is actually superior to our own. It was a peaceful society, not given to much war or fighting. I'd rather Hindu's that contribute to civilisation than Islam that takes away from civilisation. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 03:38 PM Post #29 |
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i still want to know what happened to the sikhs 'turning up in numbers'. i was lookin fwd to seeing that!!! that wouldnt have made the daily mail! they prefer to label peoples kids. was it bollocks or jus kids or trolls posting or something. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 03:56 PM Post #30 |
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If the Hindus were a threat or a problem I might have seen a point to this post. As they are not all I can say is what a lovely building, I will make a point of visiting it. |
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| ukarmy | May 31 2010, 04:03 PM Post #31 |
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typical - call me a racist and a troll because im takin a stance. ill meet any of you chaps. one of my first threads was one about a sikh temple, a simple gentle question, and i got flamed for it. since then ive hardly posted. ill meet any of you guys. i dont use the net much, i do have a life, just because i dont respond back straight away doesnt mean im not here. fair enough - do what you like, just remember this threadsite, my words in 20 years time, you'll probably start jumping on the bandwagon then |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 04:08 PM Post #32 |
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What are you 12?
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| Capt Haddock | May 31 2010, 04:12 PM Post #33 |
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Not sure if you can read too well mate, but the group clearly states we're against Militant Islam.... period. Edited by Capt Haddock, May 31 2010, 04:13 PM.
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| ukarmy | May 31 2010, 04:15 PM Post #34 |
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if your going to call me a troll who hits and runs just because i have a stance on immigration and i have a life with family and kids to look after then lets see you say that to my face???? |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 04:16 PM Post #35 |
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try stormfront ukarmy, theyll be well sympathetic to the arguement. id be suprised if theres not a thread on there already. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 04:17 PM Post #36 |
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chill people. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 04:18 PM Post #37 |
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Ash17 may post in a minutes to show you how the Hindu's are building Temples at an astonishing rate around the country... Unless I find her post first.
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 04:19 PM Post #38 |
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Yeah! The threat of violence when someone voices their thoughts! You sound just like our enemy |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 04:24 PM Post #39 |
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How fast the Hindu's are building Temples all around the UK... http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/3218452/1/?x=35 |
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| saunders | May 31 2010, 04:27 PM Post #40 |
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ukarmy, i understand where your coming from and you may be right we may not see the obvious. However we have to fight Islam now or we are doomed. People must also understand that Asian controlled Councils like Leicester run by Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims are very much against the EDL and are already threatening landlords if they allow EDL members to sup in their pubs.(see post) I would like to see more Hindu and Sikh EDL members before siding with the love all Asian mentality. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 04:46 PM Post #41 |
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ukarmy, we don't make threats to each other on the forums mate, we are not here to fight each other. Arthur. |
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| LeeJay | May 31 2010, 04:49 PM Post #42 |
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I think the post is just put on to take people away from the real threat and just like a "trojan" in the computer system it is hidden with danger. REALITY - September 11, Nairobi, London, Madrid, Bali, and the list is endless; it is all being done in the name of Sunni Islam. Also, Islam is the only religion which desires to enforce its legal system on others and of course it is a criminal act to merely marry a Muslim female in Afghanistan, Iran, Somalia, Saudi Arabia, and so forth. We all know where the global threat is from! India, which is mainly Hindu, is also democratic. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 04:50 PM Post #43 |
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I can't see how UKArmy is right. First of all, I've no idea what it is that he could be right about. Once an argument is put forward, we can try and engage with it. Until then, all I did was try and point him in the direction of the only organization that might be prepared to defend all things British against any further foreign influence. I don't know enough about stormfront to know what their position on hindu temples might be. The last figures I looked at that compared the UK population across different age groups. In older age groups (eg 50s) the proportion of hindus, sikhs and muslims was about the same. As you look through the lower age groups the muslim proportion increases massively. If I remember rightly, with under 5s, the number of hindus was twice that of the 50 year olds, but the number of muslims was 10x that of the 50 year olds. Now even if we were to accept that hinduism was as big a threat as islam, islam would still be the pressing issue just because of the demographics. So until UKArmy comes up with some argument as to why he thinks hinduisatio is a threat, I'm not surprised that people just think he's a reactionary, and possibly a racist. I'm not one to throw round the term "racist" as I think it cheapens it. But seriously UKArmy, you haven't done yourself any favours by not explaining what you think the threat is. The idea that islam is going to be sorted out in the next 5 years, but in that time the hindus and sikhs will have taken over just makes no sense. |
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| BeanLaden | May 31 2010, 05:06 PM Post #44 |
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Well your refering to them as 'wankers' and yet im struggling to see what your problem is? you dont state that you have suffered any violence and racism, they have been waiting over 15 yr for that building. Its quite stunning in my opinion so what exactly is your problem? You moaning about getting some grief and being called a troll and yet you refer to us ( 'you people' ) as being blind?! Hindus and sikhs get a free ride. We love israeli jews and let them do what they want?? hmm do you love hamas or something? Last time i looked they (hamas) seem to do what they want while playing the victims all the time. Maybe, just maybe they (sikhs, hindus etc) get this free ride cause they dont go suicide bombing, preach hate and death against non believers, wrap their women up in ninja suits, treat them as property.....the list is endless.... Israel surrounded by all these barbarians is fighting for its very life. Maybe we should just ignore them in thier plight? Maybe when it all goes tits up here people should also ignore our plight....just a thought |
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| saunders | May 31 2010, 05:12 PM Post #45 |
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The ever-excellent Biased BBC notes that Jo Brand has been explaining the meaning of racism on Radio Five Live: Jo Brand: My personal opinion is that you can’t be racist towards white people. You can be prejudiced about them but being prejudiced isn’t an illegal act whereas being racist can be. Phil Williams: Don’t you think racism is just being derogatory about a race, regardless of the colour? Jo Brand: No I don’t. I think the definition of racism also encompasses political power. So you can’t be racist towards a race that’s politically more powerful than a minority. That to me is the correct definition of racism. I think you can be prejudiced towards a group of people who are more powerful than you, but I don’t think you can be racist towards them. Ignoring the fact that it isn’t illegal to be racist as far as I remember, or at least yet, Brand hits on an interesting point – that so much of society’s problem stem from the fact that the elite’s definition of racism differs so vastly from the people’s understanding of it. Most of us see racism as quite simply, to quote Wikipedia, “a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race”. Unfortunately the elite, those in control of the media, academia, politics, the churches and even the police, see racism a different way – through the prism of Marxism, a fantasy world where racism is a form of class exploitation and class division created by whites to exploit not-whites. To followers of the Marxist ideology of “anti-racism” (as opposed to people who are just anti-racist), racism is by definition only racism when it is white people doing it, because in their make-believe Dungeons and Dragons world only white people are fully responsible for their actions (I know, that’s pretty racist). This is why our rulers are so determined to ignore the dangers of Islamic fundamentalism – were it white people calling for Jews to be killed and adulterers and gays stoned to death in the name of Jesus, they’d be horrified. Likewise if whites were responsible for the appalling racist oppression of the black southern Sudanese or the Western Saharans the anti-racists would be marching down the Mall in outrage. This ideology of anti-racism came about in direct reaction to the horrors of the Holocaust, which made many Europeans believe their civilisation was inherently evil. But history is full of ironies: just as the horror of the trenches led to the pacifism that made World War 2 inevitable, so “anti-racism” is leading us to the next horror. Alain Finkielkraut, a French essayist whose father was deported to Auschwitz, has warned how anti-racism, and the inability of white liberal intellectuals to see that all human beings are equally capable of inhumanity, is the biggest danger facing the West. “I think that the lofty idea of ‘the war on racism’ is gradually turning into a hideously false ideology,” he said in 2005. “And this anti-racism will be for the twenty-first century what Communism was for the twentieth century: a source of violence.” |
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| niceneasy | May 31 2010, 05:17 PM Post #46 |
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Hindu's are peaceful. |
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| Deleted User | May 31 2010, 05:17 PM Post #47 |
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You still didn't answer my question Seriously, "meet me anywhere I'll fight the lot of you" makes you come across as a little bit immature don't you think? As has been previously stated, we do not as an organisation have issues with Hindu's or Sikh's. Ask us one on mosques
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| Good Knight | May 31 2010, 05:18 PM Post #48 |
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No one is impressed. Chill Winston. Have you personally had problems with hindus and sikhs mate? |
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| BeanLaden | May 31 2010, 05:18 PM Post #49 |
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typical - call me a racist and a troll because im takin a stance. ill meet any of you chaps. What stance have you took exactly, by calling them wankers? one of my first threads was one about a sikh temple, a simple gentle question, and i got flamed for it. since then ive hardly posted. Simply and gently put you might wanna work on that. And because we have bullied you so much ..you are unable to reply and defend this 'stance'?ill meet any of you guys. Threat ? i dont use the net much, i do have a life, just because i dont respond back straight away doesnt mean im not here. fair enough - do what you like, just remember this threadsite, my words in 20 years time, you'll probably start jumping on the bandwagon then Which bandwagon are you currently on by the way ? You words in 20 years time ive almost forgot what you said at the start of this thread
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| DonkingDave | May 31 2010, 05:35 PM Post #50 |
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ukarmy, is a UAF member trying to dig racism and threats out of people to so they can take a moral high ground IMO. |
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pfft, you just don't appreciate fine architecture

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