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Edl barred from your pub or youl lose your license
Topic Started: May 31 2010, 10:04 AM (395 Views)
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a pub that i use in Leicester and have done for around 10 years has apparantley been tod by the licensing authority that if Edl are found in there he wil lose his License. ive been a regular in this pub for around ten years and have taken them a lot of custom at a time when they are struggling for customers. This same pub was closed by them on a day that we went to support a demonstration by the English shieldwall even tho none of us were or even tried to represent the Edl and also one other where the cross of st george was burnt that sparked that demonstration was forced to close that day. the landlord has said he will give me a copy of the letter from them so as soon as i have it i will post the details.
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This sort of thing was always 'in the post', and quite easily dealt with.

Just don't wear your EDL gear there (for the sake of the landlords living), and have................let's say 'book club' meetings instead, with the books in question being the koran etc. :D

PS It would be good to know under which laws they plan to enforce this, as well as the individuals or groups actually lodging any complaints though?
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its not when we wear our colours mate its a case of he knows who we and apparantley so do they. he will allow me in "because he can vouch for me as a personal friend" but none of the rest of our division!
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How does the licensing authority know you use the pub?
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Ruby
May 31 2010, 10:15 AM

How does the licensing authority know you use the pub?
Probably the council told them.

'The thought police' have infiltrated the LA by the sounds of it. I would like to hear from them on what grounds exactly they would remove a license.

Surely if the punters are not doing anything illegal then it's up to the Landlord who can and can't come in his pub.

Are the licensing authority going to warn the pubs in the many towns up and down the country where we have visited, spent a s**t load of cash whilst all the time behaving ourselves and then leaving peacefully?

f**king bullying hypocrites!

What does it tell you about this country when you can have a building that is used to preach hatred and extremism AND there is the proof and they are left alone to get on with it! Then on the other hand, as soon as a bunch of white folks gather for a few quiet drinks and a natter they threaten to close the place down. What is wrong with this picture?

Please get us the proof I think we should have a field day with this. I want to hear the Licensing Authorities take on this. :blink:
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This is an obvious case of political interferance, its probably worth putting the landlord in touch with Liberty (http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/) who may be able to offer legal advice, they are usually a leftish organisation, but its worth putting them on the spot to know where you stand.
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May 31 2010, 10:15 AM

How does the licensing authority know you use the pub?
no idea but the landlord says ob know who we are too, yet none of us have been arrested at demos or any other time whislt representing Edl/having meetings etc. we have never wore coours whilst drinking there either
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this has also been the case for a few Aylesbury EDL members
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From the Licensing Act 2003...

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The Second Appointed Day on which the Act comes fully into force is likely to be November 2005.

The aims of the new legislation are to:-

1. Reduce crime and disorder

2. Encourage tourism

3. Reduce alcohol abuse

4. Encourage the self-sufficiency of local communities

5. Reduce the burden of unnecessary regulation on business

This will be achieved by focusing on the four overarching Licensing Objectives which are:-

1. The prevention of crime and disorder

2. Public safety

3. The prevention of public nuisance

4. The protection of children from harm


I would imagine that they would put the EDL under number 1, crime and disorder but I would take issue with this but then councils really don't like people arguing with them do they?

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http://www.licensingact2003.co.uk/home.htm
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When Birmingham had a meet about a month ago we was told that we were not welcome into two pubs because we were EDL.
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May 31 2010, 10:04 AM
a pub that i use in Leicester and have done for around 10 years has apparantley been tod by the licensing authority that if Edl are found in there he wil lose his License.
Were they drunk using racist remarks, or anything like that? If not, you should take it further. They can't just discriminate against you just because you attend 'legal EDL protests'.
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May 31 2010, 11:03 AM
When Birmingham had a meet about a month ago we was told that we were not welcome into two pubs because we were EDL.
And the first pub - we hadn`t even opened our gobs! But, he did let us have a few beers before we were told to go - just to boost his takings.

The second pub, the Police told the landlord who we were - again, he was quite happy to get a few dollars of us first - and we never caused a problem in either pub.
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yeah its a legal organisation!
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this tactic has been used against BNP meetings for years, the left have a track record of threatening to attack pubs and or getting the councils to try and revoke licences.
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like to see em try and enforce it, as long as we are not breaking any laws they wont be able to say a thing.
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Last time I heard of prevention of crime was in minority report.....
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We can try to challenge it but don't think we'll get very far - landlords have the right to refuse service to anyone. Especially if the licensing authority are breathing down their necks.

You'd think landlords would wlecome us - just think how much money we put behind the bar.

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May 31 2010, 10:15 AM

How does the licensing authority know you use the pub?
Licensing was taken away from magistrates and given to the local council by NuLabour when it swapped to 24 hour drinking. Let me guess, local council full of Guardian reading lefty UAF twats?
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Leicester Edl
May 31 2010, 10:04 AM
a pub that i use in Leicester and have done for around 10 years has apparantley been tod by the licensing authority that if Edl are found in there he wil lose his License. ive been a regular in this pub for around ten years and have taken them a lot of custom at a time when they are struggling for customers. This same pub was closed by them on a day that we went to support a demonstration by the English shieldwall even tho none of us were or even tried to represent the Edl and also one other where the cross of st george was burnt that sparked that demonstration was forced to close that day. the landlord has said he will give me a copy of the letter from them so as soon as i have it i will post the details.
That is just out and out discrimination. Can you imagine if they tried to do that against another group in society. It is a gross violation of human rights on at least two levels:

1) That EDL supporters are being specifically demonised by negative stereotyping (although anything with England or English in the title seems to be victimised these days). From a certain perspective this could be seen as racial discrimination - discrimination of people of English origin. These lefties appear to be such hypocrites!

2) The the pub owner is being impeded in his right to earn a living.

I will be interested in seeing the letter when it becomes available.
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It is a very sad day for democracy and freedom in this country when a local council threatens a business with closing them down completely just because they disagree with a certain groups democratically and legally expressed beliefs.

I wouldn't like to see the landlord challenge this as he probably doesn't have a cat in hells chance but I would like us to challenge this head on with those concerned.

What next, telling Tescos not to sell beer to EDL members during the world cup?

The hypocrisy IT BURNS!! :blink:
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Crazy and unjust.

I too look forward to reading the letter.
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Discrimination against us in our own country FFS!
I'm afraid I'm not shocked, its a sign of how far things have slipped in this country.
I think there must be some kind of challenge put up though, once a letter appears and we know the actual grounds they are using.
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Leicester Council is run by Asians they now make the rules.

Leicester has now been virtually ethnically cleansed
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licensing@leicester.gov.uk.....e-mail address.
No Surrender.
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I thought they were called public houses for a reason, because they are open to all!

Im getting sick to death of these nazis dictating who can and cant use these places. I am looking forward to seeing this letter too cheeky B****rds.
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have read this and the one good thing about positive discrimination is you can use it positively.

find a pub all the soapdodgers use and start going in there, make sure you discuss edl business openly and obviously go a few times, then complain to the council that this pub is being used as edl hq and get them shut down.

in the meantime its blatant discrimination against a legal organisation am sure there are human rights issues there but liberty will probably be able to help.
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May 31 2010, 05:46 PM
have read this and the one good thing about positive discrimination is you can use it positively.

find a pub all the soapdodgers use and start going in there, make sure you discuss edl business openly and obviously go a few times, then complain to the council that this pub is being used as edl hq and get them shut down.

in the meantime its blatant discrimination against a legal organisation am sure there are human rights issues there but liberty will probably be able to help.
That's all very well my friend but that pub belongs to a business person trying to make a living and it certainly isn't their fault and they shouldn't suffer as a result now should they? :-/
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no i agree whole heartedly he shouldnt but other than staying out of his pub there isnt much you can do except maybe try to get liberty or someone to see what the legal position is

what i am saying is you can use their tactic against their own supporters namely soapdodging students etc
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More tactics by the right wing Government to try and disband a group of working class people
A WAY OUT FOR YOU NAZI SCUM THATS INFILTRATED THE EDL
http://www.stormfront.org/
http://www.uaf.org.uk/
http://www.islam4uk.com/
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May 31 2010, 06:08 PM
More tactics by the right wing Government to try and disband a group of working class people
Charlie, it is down to left wing councils, nothing to do with this government. I've told you before, stop your Labour campaigning. Please back it up with some facts. My facts are, ZanuLabour took pub licensing authority away from magistrates and gave it to councils, which are politicised. Leicester (where the OP said the pub was) has been Labour since (council) at least 1979 (or majority with NOC).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leicester_local_elections
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Unless there us some particular problem with this pub I find this very odd. This wants adverting to a wider audience. Pubs are closing at the rate of 8 a week according to the latest figures I have read, are part of the bedrock of British society and need all the help they can get. While I know that licensees are allowed to refuse service to anyone, (apart from on the grounds of disability and race) and do not have to give a reason; this appear to be a case of a licensing authority overstepping their powers . PM me the pub name and I will try and get this saga mentioned in the CAMRA monthly magazine (national circulation in excess of 100,000).
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The letter will never appear!
The threat is enough to do the trick, why should they incriminate themselves?

It is easy to say what the landlord should do in an ideal world, but in an ideal world we would not nead the EDL! We would not be overun witth people trying to subvert our culture to a parody of third world anarchy!

Petrol would be 50p a gallon and there would be free beer as well!

On a posative note I am sure the pubs that served us in Newcastle made a fair proffit for the day! I also doubt their liscence will be pulled because of it!
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This is disgusting, surely something could be done about this, I'm sure they can't do this sort of thing
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