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| Islam & racism; A very good article about islam & racism | |
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| Deleted User | May 29 2010, 10:32 AM Post #1 |
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I found this article a few months ago, posted it on a facebook group & got bombarded with replies about how racist I am, all it does is argue the point that if Islam is a race then it's the most racist race on the planet: Islam and “Racism” Those openly critical of Islam are sometimes dubiously slurred as racists, regardless of what their true views on race may be. In fact, Islam is not a race. Islam has nothing at all to do with genetics. It is an ideology – a set of beliefs about individual behavior and the rules of society. Neither are Muslims a race of people. In fact, there are Muslims of all races. Therefore criticizing Islam is not racism. There is no such thing as "anti-Muslim racism" any more than it makes sense to pretend that there is "anti-Christian racism," "anti-Methodist racism," or "anti-Capitalist racism." So why would anyone claim differently? It is because the battle over Islam is being fought in the West, the only arena in which this religion can still be critically debated. It is also here that repugnance toward racism is strong and nearly universal. As politicians well know, if one can successfully paint the opposition as “racist,” then the battle for public opinion is all but decided. From high-risk mortgages to illegal immigration, fear of the race card is one of the strongest influences on public policy. At the same time, it is nearly impossible to defend Islam in its own right - which is why Muslim societies usually rely on threat of violence to suppress intellectual critique of Islam and the freedom of other religion to fairly compete. According to its own texts, Islam was founded in terror, and its political and social code is deeply incompatible with Western liberal values. Frustrated advocates of Islam’s advance are therefore prone to taking the crude and easy path of trying to squash debate by mislabeling criticism of their religion as racism. Having to sling the worst of all slurs to compensate for deficiency of fact and logic is bad enough, but in this case there is terrible irony in that what is being defended in such cheap fashion is an ideology that is overtly supremacist in nature. In fact, those Muslims who do want to rely on the race card are not thinking very far ahead. On the surface it would seem that if Islam really were a race, or Muslims a race of people, then any criticism of the common tie which unites them - in this case the religion of Islam – could be dismissed out of hand as racism, thus effectively protecting the religion from tough examination. But everything is not as it seems. If Muslims are a race because of Islam, then it means that Islam is a racial ideology. What this ideology has to say about its own and other “races” therefore becomes a very important question. In fact, the Qur’an places an enormous qualitative distinction between Muslims and non-Muslims that is hard to miss. Believers are loved by God, whereas infidels are hated to the extent that they are tortured for eternity (3:32, 4:56) merely for not believing. Muslims are told to shun unbelievers (3:118), who are called “helpers of evil” (25:55), “wicked” (4:160), “fond of lies” (5:42) and compared to the worst of animals (8:55, 7:176, 7:179). Members of Islam are told to be merciful to each other, but ruthless to those outside of the faith (48:29). Violence is also sanctioned against those who are obstinate against Islamic rule (8:12-13, 9:5). So, if Muslims are a race, Islam would not only be a racist ideology, but arguably the most hateful and destructive in history. It is bad enough that hundreds of millions of people have been killed in the last fourteen centuries by divinely sanctioned Jihad and slavery, but to retroactively supplant the stated motive of religious supremacy with that of racial superiority is hardly a step in the right direction for a religion seeking the acceptance of an increasingly skeptical audience. Conclusion Race is an arbitrary label that has no legitimacy. Therefore anything based on race, including racism and racial discrimination is unsound at best and immoral and inhumane at worst. Human beings are individuals and should only be judged as such. Islam is not a race. Muslims are not a race. Islam is an ideology that should be open to critical examination. |
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| Deleted User | May 29 2010, 10:37 AM Post #2 |
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Very good. Why not copy paste it into the Guardian thread, as people who may email that leftard idiot Matthew Taylor, may find it useful.
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| Steveoo UK | May 29 2010, 10:42 AM Post #3 |
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No one seems to care if islam or muslims are a race. Like the UAF, they can only ever say one word about the EDL and that is "Racist" they can NEVER explain why the EDL is racist, even though there are plenty of black and asian members here. They still shout it though,
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| Deleted User | May 29 2010, 10:48 AM Post #4 |
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Some very good points are made in that article. There is an organised, concerted effort to label muslim as a race, it must be that it makes it easier to police and prosecute, after all the racist label is used to silence dissenting voices very effectively and can be used with impunity to get people on the back foot and defensive. A remark that all peoples enjoy chanting to condemn those who aren't on message. It's an accusation that unites people across the board, so it's a very powerful self policing tool. -- People are so deeply brainwashed that they don't blush when they are wrong. On another forum I said how I couldn't understand an asian doctor because his accent was so thick.... the remarks that I was being racist came very quickly. But when I told then his accent was Scottish they just went quiet, not a peep. |
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| Deleted User | May 29 2010, 10:48 AM Post #5 |
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Well, I completely agree with it, and think it's an insightful article. Did you post it on the EDL page on FB? It might just be that people attacked it because it is painting islam as bad per se (something I believe, but that is not the EDL position on islam). I think the logic of the piece is flawless. If muslims are a race, then non-muslims are race. Therefore islam is a doctrine of racial supremacism. It just takes the fallacy of calling muslims a "race" to it's logical conclusion. And shows up the fallacy of the premiss. I'd like to know the original source of the article. I don't want to use it and the ideas in it without attributing them to the author (even if s/he uses a pseudonym) and original location (not that that means much on the internet). Thanks for posting this. You might enjoy this morsel (search for "the Islamic State bears a kind of resemblance"): http://mcbwatch.blogspot.com/ That's the man the muslims consider the greatest islamic thinker of the 20th century. God, how I hate the UAF and Guardian readers for their simplistic understanding of islam. |
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| Deleted User | May 29 2010, 10:58 AM Post #6 |
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Homo - it was posted on an anti-sharia site on facebook, i'd spent a couple of months typing the response "Islam is a religion, the followers of Islam are from any race so it's not racist to speak agains muslims or Islam" i'd gotten so sick of typing that response I almost wept for joy when I found that article. I posted it on the discussion board for all to see & the abuse rolled in but I don't care what someones race or religion is as long as it lets me live my life, my way & as we all know Islamic law wouldn't allow that. Fern, I would copy & paste it to the Gaurdian article but they seem to have disabled comments on that one.....wonder why? |
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| Deleted User | May 29 2010, 12:20 PM Post #7 |
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I found the original. Ya gotta love Google. And TROP for writing this piece: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Racism-TROP.htm |
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| Deleted User | May 29 2010, 12:38 PM Post #8 |
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but there is a difference in black people to white people.my black friends told me this when i was younger,and a lot of people dont know it.its the cells under the skin.that protect them from the sun.orientals also have different type of hair. the vast majority of asian(not including Indian people here) people believe in ISLAM-now that is the one that makes us different in my books.the way they think and live. |
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