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| Deleted User | May 27 2010, 11:28 PM Post #1 |
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the national id cards that rolled out last nov in manchester and then blackburn the end i feb i was one of the first to get one but not the goverment have said there been scrapped. ok they want to scrap them but on ringing the passport/id card office i was told i will not get a refund and the cards useless its still valid for 10 years but no one will accept it as a form of id. have any other members got one of these cards its cost them millions to get the program going just to scrap it total waste of money i thought it was a good idea esp after 9/11 and 7/7 iam just really pissed off the hassle i had to get the card now i cand use it grrrrr. sorry rant over now folks |
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| Deleted User | May 27 2010, 11:33 PM Post #2 |
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Never did worry about them going ahead, I knew they'd get trashed. Wow not even a refund, wonder where that money went. |
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| Deleted User | May 27 2010, 11:41 PM Post #3 |
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i think they said it cost like 257 million and took 8 years to get where they did not there been scraped the torys/lib dems are really going to f**k up this country even more then it was all rewady. also whilst iasm on my soap box A SCHEME aimed at setting up more than 700 jobs across East Lancashire is to be scrapped by the new government. The Conservative and Liberal Democrat coalition has ruled out making further grants under the Future Jobs Fund, which has already provided more than 100 jobs for young people. theres no jobs here as itb is now there stoping ppl geting into work |
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| guypatriot | May 27 2010, 11:45 PM Post #4 |
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Hi Colly First off I think the proposal of ID Cards was a complete waste of time and money and only served the tyrants of New Labour in eroding civil liberty yet further and criminalising the masses. I fail to see how the introduction of these cards could possibly have had any positive worth in the War on Terror and I would welcome anyone to tell me different. As for your case then I was unaware that this anti freedom scam had already been piloted in the UK. What I would suggest is contacting your local MP to clarify if you're able to get your money back. If this is not the case right now you should demand that they lobby for it. In the meantime you should track this and see if the current Gov't makes refunds available. All the best. |
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| Deleted User | May 27 2010, 11:57 PM Post #5 |
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well i thought it was good idea it was piolted out at manchester airport first for all airside staff then the public in greater manchester and when blackburns passport office opened the end of feb i was one of the first. The 15,000 people who voluntarily paid £30 for a card since the 2009 roll out in Manchester will not get a refund. Ms May said ID card holders would at least have a "souvenir" of the scheme. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8707355.stm was not going to post it theres s**t loads but the money wasted on it and ppl hasve lostb there jobs as well its so wrong |
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| Deleted User | May 28 2010, 12:14 AM Post #6 |
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Did you ever use it? |
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| Deleted User | May 28 2010, 12:17 AM Post #7 |
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not had chance to was goimng to use it in oct when i was due to fly to scotland there still valid for 10 years one of the reasons i wanted one was to travel to europe insted of spending 90 pound to renew my passport was cheaper to get the id card
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| guypatriot | May 28 2010, 12:50 AM Post #8 |
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Hi Colly I have to say I don't have much in the way of sympathy for you in volunteering for this scheme I would have to ask whether you were 'sold' the idea on the grounds of being cheaper than a passport. If that is the case then you can still take this to your local MP. Best wishes |
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| Deleted User | May 28 2010, 02:29 AM Post #9 |
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Well why don't we ask Ms May if she'd like to buy the bastard off you. Yet another complete f**k up that the British public are left to deal with. |
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| Deleted User | May 28 2010, 04:02 AM Post #10 |
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yes guypatriot the main reason i wanted one was to save money to travel to europe as my passport as due for renewel which with the check and send think at yhe post office is about 90 quid i think and as the id card is valid for travel in the EU i have saved 60 quid iam told i can still travel on it but theres been passengers turned away at the port of hull as the staff did not know anything about it. and ryan air are refuseing to accept it anywat but there a bunch of t**ts anyway. i cant see why they dont use it just for a travel card cause you used to be able to buy a 1 year passpost at the post office for europe abot 15 years ago it would made sence to salvage something the amout of money thats been spent/wasted on it. |
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| Deleted User | May 28 2010, 07:38 AM Post #11 |
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I supported the idea of ID cards as they could hold multiple info such as licences etc..what Ms May said was a disgrace about no refund and needs challenging. |
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| Deleted User | May 28 2010, 07:45 AM Post #12 |
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Not sure if it would be relevant for an ID card but under the 'sale of goods act 1979 (I think)'... Anything that you buy has to be fit for the purpose for which it was intended. Now say that the store that you bought it from was taken over by somebody else. That store would still be obliged to honour any exchanges or refunds for sales made under the previous owners. You probably don't have a hope but don't ask don't get eh? Perhaps if you all asked together somebody might listen.
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| Deleted User | May 28 2010, 08:03 AM Post #13 |
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You've been sold a pup by Labour. By the way, it cost billions, not millions. it had nothing to do with 9/11 & 7/7. How were ID cards going to help? our 7/7 guys were all British citizens, as are most UK wannabe terrorists, they don't need any ID. If they're foreign, they'll all have ID, it's called a passport. How is an ID card going to stop a terrorist? Any well funded Al-Qaeda will be able to get a perfect forgery. Any well funded criminal will do the same. Photo driving licences were the softner for ID cards, think about it, when have you ever needed to show your photo driving licence and I don't mean you've used it as personal ID to join a video club or something, I mean when have you ever needed to show it in an official capacity? ID cards are about controlling and taxing the public, it's Orwellian 1984, it was typical NuLabour, along with microchips in our dustbins and fining people if the lid was ajar an inch or so. Nulabour would have tied the ID into our bank account, the NHS database that is coming, they'd have brought them all together so that they could spy on you and extract more tax. Think about it, why do we have a DNA database that keeps members of the public's DNA even though they've never been charged or have been found not guilty. Did you know that all government departments have access to your clubcard (and any similar cards) details and spending? How did they do that, well back about 7 years ago they said if ever there was a food scare, say poisoning by terrorists (good old war on terror, another excuse to control us) the NHS would need to have access to the purchases of affected foods through the supermarkets and if they had access to the clubcards they could track down the people who had bought the food and contact them. Sounds like a good idea, but then they changed the rules and allowed all government departments to have access, the main one to have taken up the offer is the Inland Revenue. So if you're self employed and not paying much tax, they go and check your spending to see if it is within line with you declared income. Then you have the DVLA database where they will sell your details to any Tom, Dick & Harry for £2.50 (and not just companies, private individuals as well). I can guarantee, once they have the NHS central database up and running, they'll flog the details to life insurance companies and if your family has a history of illness, you'll find it hard to get insurance. You want to be on as little databases as possible, they're not for your benefit. A good article here on ID cards. http://arcticcompass.blogspot.com/2009/09/those-pesty-id-cards-everyone-will-have.html |
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| Battle of Lepanto | May 28 2010, 08:08 AM Post #14 |
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Another Labour waste of money for which we are all going to have to pay dearly for the next 10 years. They thought they were looking tough to get rid of the image that they were softies, but all they did was chuck our money around. The billions that have been wasted by Labour on failed schemes, lousy IT programmes, management consultants etc etc etc would plug the public defecit. Blair and Brown retire on massive pensions (and all the extras they can earn by exploiting their former positions) whilst we are left to pick up the tab. Where's my f**cking pitchfork! Edited by Battle of Lepanto, May 28 2010, 08:09 AM.
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