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Unity is our ONLY solution!; You are being played!
Topic Started: May 27 2010, 07:54 PM (214 Views)
psyfirefly
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Hi,

While I agree that militant Islam is a problem that needs adressing, I think that you are going the wrong way about it.

Britian, along with other western nations, are under attack because of our government's foreign policies based on lies and profits. We have invaded their nations, and they are in the process of enacting their revenge. This is perfectly understandable, and gives you guys every right to stand up to them. I appreciate that you have the best intentions of the nation at heart.

The sad thing is that these extremists are not our real enemy. They were antagonised purposely to achieve exactly what is happening now. They have divided our nation. But dont you wonder just why the government is so afraid of them? Or maybe they are not afraid. Maybe it is all intentional.

I believe that extremist islam is being purposely allowed to remain in this country (our government could have easily prevented it) purposely so there is a real threat on our soil. It is only natural that people will perceive this threat and rise up to counter it. But this threat was created by our own government to keep us distracted from discovering, or caring about the real criminals and our real enemy.

Who else but our own government has repeatedly screwed us at every opportunity, giving all of our rights away to people who have declared themselves our enemy?

Our government steals from us, they fight illegal wars using our tax money, they write themselves out of the laws, they just simply do not care about us unless we have money to give them. Corporations have taken over, moving to other countries and leaving us with empty factories. Who allowed this to happen? How much longer will the current political system hold us as slaves?

I am not saying give up your fight, I am saying that to truly defend England, and Britain, we need to UNITE and confront (moraly, peacefully and legally) our real enemy. We need to realise our problems are not between us and other people, but caused by the elite.

Im sure everyone has heard "United we stand, divided we fall, together we stand tall". This applies to the entire HUMAN RACE irrespective of religion, race, gender.

Its time to stop playing by their rules!
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pfffffffff, I am sick of people blaming the religion of peace's violence, intolerance and hatred of everything non islam on foreign policy!!!!

All one has to do is read the qur'an and hadiths and surrah to see fore ones' self that this hatred and intolerance is PART and PARCEL of being a muslim.

As for this whole conspiracy malarky, I'm not convinced of this at all. I think our leadership has been pressured into being tolerant of this crap by PC thought. There is absolutely no malignant intention behind it, just ignorant,sheeplike following of a trendy way of thinking.
Our politicians are as english as we are,they just feel pressured to appear sensitive and caring.
Time will undo their ignorance.
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September the 11th was unprovoked. Their excuse was because of the US's relationship with Israel.

Murdering 3000 people IS NOT JUSTIFIABLE.

Islam is only about unifying Muslims, we've seen this throughout history, that they will rape and murder their religion into the people. It's a ridiculous religion, and shouldn't be allowed any voice at all.
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psyfirefly
May 27 2010, 07:54 PM
Maybe it is all intentional.

But this threat was created by our own government to keep us distracted from discovering, or caring about the real criminals and our real enemy.

Who allowed this to happen?

Yawn...I feel a massive conspiracy theory coming on.
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Moving to off topic - feel free to follow and reply there.
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May 27 2010, 08:11 PM
September the 11th was unprovoked. Their excuse was because of the US's relationship with Israel.

As always they blame the Jews to cover up.
You can't blame islam terror on Israel, because it was happening long before Israel was created. And It happens in countries that don't support Israel.

You can't blame it on anyone or anything. It has been happening for hundards of years. And the whole Religion is stuck there.
islam has to evolve. Judaism and Christianity have. Both the Torah and Bible state that being Gay is a sin and I'm guessing they even punished or maybe even killed gay people thousands of years ago. But the religion and followers evolved.

islam has to do the same.
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OK I am not saying Islam is a peaceful religion, I dont want to get into that discussion but in a nutshell I beleive ALL religion needs to be eradicated from our planet, and it is merely a tool used to divide us all and keep us ignorant and under control and sick twisted people to hide their evils behind. This is even alluded to in the so-called holy books! So if it is in them, and they believe it, having the means to carry it out, then it unfortunately becomes reality. History bears witness to this on far too many occasions.

We need to awaken and put a stop to it. Fighting the symptoms will not cure the disease.
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Every now and again someone pops up trying to peddle this "It's the Joos what dun it" theory about all the world's problems since the dawn of time, to see if there are any takers.

It's like paedos grooming for children online.
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oh so the bombings, murders and persecution of other religions is actually my fault?

Well blow me down with a feather
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I have not mentioned Jews specifically, I hold all religion in equal contempt. However, 9/11 thing is a very complicated topic. If you believe that it was carried out by muslims, then you have to realise that it was NOT unprovoked in any way. It was a result of Western foreign policy. If you really dont believe that is a possibility then you are ignoring history. The west has created some real bad vibes around the world, including the muslim nations.
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psyfirefly
May 27 2010, 08:26 PM
ALL religion needs to be eradicated from our planet
Other religions aren't killing, persecuting and oppressing other people in their millions. Nor are they doing same to their very own people.

I think your intentions are good but you really need to come from behind the sofa mate. This aint a bunch of handbag fighters we are opposing here, it is a bunch of vile extremists who hide behind a religion to promot ultimate fascism. Wake up, smell the coffee and get on board.
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I see what the OP is trying to say.

Our horrible Government is the reason that we are facing Islamic extremism IN our country. They have allowed hatred to be preached in Mosques. They have allowed so many Muslims into our country. As stated in another thread, they have lost track of 1 in 6 terror suspects.
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Western foreign policy (behind which lurks the evil Jew, so the narrative goes) didn't write the Koran.

Edited by Battle of Lepanto, May 27 2010, 08:40 PM.
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Tim Gibson, I suggest you read up on Jewish, Hindu, Sihk, Christian, and even pagan history, you might be in for a bit of a shock to find that Islam is just the latest in a long line of bloodthirsty, destructive religions.

I completely agree that they need to be dealt with, and thanks for doing that. They ARE vile peple but people like that but they exist in every culture and nation on earth, including ours. They will hijack or create religions, hijack movements like the EDL, or create their own, to cause trouble and violence.

The human race definitely needs to wake up and realise what we are doing, which is destroying ourselves.
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May 27 2010, 08:47 PM
They will hijack or create religions, hijack movements like the EDL, or create their own, to cause trouble and violence.

Who will?
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Yea just why exactly did they bomb the USS Cole?
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Refreshing to see someone with another view instead of blaming everything on muslims.


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May 27 2010, 08:57 PM
Refreshing to see someone with another view instead of blaming everything on muslims.


Who else is one supposed to blame for Islamic extremism other than Muslims?
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psyfirefly
May 27 2010, 08:47 PM
Tim Gibson, I suggest you read up on Jewish, Hindu, Sihk, Christian, and even pagan history
I know all about history

People that did all that bad stuff have been dead for centuries. Let's focus on the people doing the killing etc now shall we?
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Unity with those who can unite and get a job done, yes agree with that. As for blame the Jews, blame America, blame our imperialist past, blame anyone but those fuking islamist scumbags who follow the quran literally in its 7th century context.

Fuck them off, modernise the islamic religion, drag it into the 21st century or fuck it off completely. I dont need to tolerate a religion that does not tolerate me for my beliefs, my views, or my western ways. I wont tolerate those who wont tolerate me.

Blame that on islamist scrotes who have infested our society, who have infiltrated our political spheres, using democracy to defeat democracy.

Fuck all that shit off end of!
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911 was an unprovoked attack, and over three thousand innocent civilians from around the world were murdered. You know its always something with these motherf#@kers, always some reason that islomonazis have in order to murder. It's easy really, just blame the jews or maybe israel caused them to do it, or it's because the christens are still fighting the crusades, the west disrespects them bla bla bla...
Always some bulls**t reason instead of the only, truth there is. Witch is that muslim fascists, hate jews, hate christens, hate the west, hate freedom of religion, gays, the u.s.a. and england. Oh did i forget india, the russian people, the dutch, spain etc. They treat women like slaves, they wish it was at least a thousand years ago. And oh this is a good one, it's ok to kill anyone who dose not belive in there sick cult of death. If you do not belive or submit to them you are considered to be an infidel and should be converted, or be a second class citizen, or just Murdered!
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