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| Do You Feel Safe? One in Six Terror Suspects Flee Control Orders! | |
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| General Pershing | May 27 2010, 12:45 PM Post #1 |
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One in six terror suspects placed under the Government's controversial control orders has absconded, a report will reveal.![]() Zeeshan Siddiqui has not been seen since he jumped out of a window at a London psychiatric unit in 2006. Experts on Islamist extremism have called for the system to be strengthened following the revelation about the number of suspects who have disappeared while under surveillance. Among those who have gone on the run is Zeeshan Siddiqui, who is accused of having attended a terrorist training camp in Pakistan with members of the 7/7 and 'fertiliser bomb' cells - an accusation he denies. He has not been seen since he jumped out of a window at a London psychiatric unit in 2006. In another case, two Iraqis suspected of plotting to set off car bombs in London and recruiting volunteers for jihad in Iraq escaped supervision. The findings come after last week's ruling by the Special Immigration and Appeals Commission that Abid Naseer, accused of leading an al-Qaeda-backed terrorist cell that was planning an attack on Easter shoppers in Manchester, cannot be deported to his native Pakistan because he risks being tortured. He is now expected to remain in the UK under a control order. The new report by the Centre for Social Cohesion (CSC) think-tank, to be published next month, has established that of the 45 individuals subjected to control orders since the system was introduced in 2005, at least 26 (58 per cent) were people who had entered the UK seeking asylum, while nine (20 per cent) were known to be British citizens. At least seven (16 per cent) of those subject to control orders absconded. The Government promised in last week's coalition agreement to "urgently review" the use of control orders, in response to criticism that they infringe human rights. Introduced under Labour, they are intended to provide a means of restricting the activity of suspected terrorists who can neither be prosecuted in court - either through lack of evidence, or because any trial would compromise security sources - nor deported, because they would face torture in their homeland. Before the election, senior Lib Dems and Tories called control orders "inherently objectionable", "illiberal" and "ill-conceived". However, the CSC report argues that, far from being scrapped or relaxed, the control order system needs to be maintained and strengthened in order to protect the British public. It will state: "The control order system is flawed. However, at a time of a heightened terrorist threat, they are a useful national security tool. An overstretched security service is dealing with a large number of UK-based al-Qaeda sympathisers. "Rather than weakening the current national security structure, politicians should be strengthening the state's ability to reduce the terrorist threat. Yet both the Conservative Party and the Liberal Democrats have called for the potential abolition of control orders, which would have the opposite effect. "Control orders perform an important function imperfectly. The new government should seriously consider retaining the system while robustly addressing its deficiencies." Lord Carlile, the independent reviewer of Britain's counter-terrorism legislation, told The Sunday Telegraph: "Control orders are the least worst option we have. My concern is that in an atmosphere where resources are being cut, this is something that should be ring-fenced as a matter of national security." Individuals placed on a control order are subjected to a home curfew and electronic tagging and are banned from travelling abroad, using the internet and mobile phones. There are also restrictions on who they can meet and where they can live and worship. But maintaining surveillance is time-consuming and expensive, placing an added strain on the security services. Siddiqui, 29, a former London Underground station assistant from Hounslow, west London, was arrested in Pakistan in 2005 over suspicions he was a close aide of an al-Qaeda commander. He was subsequently returned to Britain where he was questioned over his links to the 'fertiliser bomb' cell who planned to attack Bluewater shopping centre and the Ministry of Sound nightclub. He was also said to be a close associate of the 7/7 bomber Shehzad Tanweer. With not enough evidence to charge him, Siddiqui, who had earlier studied Arabic and Islamic law at the University of London's School of Oriental and African Studies, was placed under a control order. However in October 2006 he disappeared after jumping out of the window of a psychiatric unit to where he had been referred after breaching the terms of the order. The two Iraqis who absconded were part of a six-strong cell suspected of recruiting British volunteers for jihad in Iraq and plotting to attack London and other cities with car bombs. The men, suspected of links to Musab al-Zarqawi, the former leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, were arrested in October 2005 but released without charge and placed under control orders. One of them, Bestun Salim, disappeared from his Manchester flat in July 2006, and is thought to have travelled abroad. Another, known as HH, a suspected recruiting sergeant for al-Qaeda, escaped his order in June 2007 and has not been seen since. Lamine and Ibrahim Adam, brothers of Anthony Garcia, one of the men jailed for life in April 2007 for his part in the fertiliser bomb plot, absconded from their control orders in May that year. The pair were suspected by security services of planning to carry out 'martyrdom operations'. Among the 12 individuals thought to be under current control orders is a figure known as AM, a British national of Indian origin who was described by Mr Justice Wilkie, in the High Court, as "highly intelligent" and "prepared to be a martyr in an attack designed to take many lives". AM, a financial services salesman in his early 20s living in the north of England, is thought to have links with Mohammed al-Ghabra, a suspected al-Qaeda operative based in east London. Influential members of the new government have long pushed for the scrapping of the system. Chris Huhne, the new Liberal Democrat energy and climate change secretary, said in September last year: "Placing people under de facto house arrest without even telling them why is an affront to British justice and a threat to the freedom that people have fought and died for. Control orders should be scrapped before any more taxpayers' money is wasted defending the indefensible." Dominic Grieve, the new Conservative Attorney General, described the orders as "unpleasant, repellent and disgusting" and inimical to British legal tradition when they were introduced. He said: "They are, at worst, a system of executive detention and, at best, a parallel system of justice based on secrecy." But Robin Simcox, research fellow at the CSC and author of the new report, said: "The threat from al-Qaeda-inspired terrorism remains high. Control orders help contain this national security threat. "Those under control order are talked about as victims of repressive state. In reality, these are very often dedicated Islamists who have taken advantage of British hospitality by plotting against us. "Members of the government have called for the abolition of control orders. This is extremely naive. Not all terrorist threats can be dealt with in the preferred manner of convictions in British courts." Link to article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/7753357/One-in-six-terror-suspects-flee-control-orders.html |
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| Steveoo UK | May 27 2010, 12:54 PM Post #2 |
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If this man blows himself up, there is only the government to be blamed. |
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| syd | May 27 2010, 01:03 PM Post #3 |
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| nemisis123456 | May 27 2010, 01:07 PM Post #4 |
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Rip up the human rights act that protects these vermin, either bring back capital punishment for them, imprison them for the duration of their life or send em back to be "persecuted" in their country of origin. Such people don't deserve to be protected by human rights as they do not value human life so why should we value theirs? Fuckin disgrace! |
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| Tzipi5770 | May 27 2010, 01:10 PM Post #5 |
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I dont understand how they can have every human right under the sun, but they never once thought about the human rights of those they planned to kill. Terror suspects and those found guilty should have no rights. |
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| Deleted User | May 27 2010, 01:28 PM Post #6 |
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Oh yeah, because deporting them back to an islamic country would do wonders in the world of Islamic extremism. You're pretty much handing them to Al-Qaeda to help kill more innocent people. |
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| General Pershing | May 27 2010, 01:39 PM Post #7 |
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Bring back hanging for terrorists and those who plot to destroy our country. Hang 'em high! |
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| Deleted User | May 27 2010, 02:00 PM Post #8 |
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If they're gonna let him out at least tag him with a 1,000,000 Volt device that will kill him instantly if he breaches his curfew zone. :/ |
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| Steveoo UK | May 27 2010, 02:52 PM Post #9 |
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Nah, that is too good for them. Hung, Drawn and Quarted gets my vote
Edited by Steveoo UK, May 27 2010, 05:48 PM.
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| Recall | May 27 2010, 05:18 PM Post #10 |
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Until the Human Rights Act is repealed this will continue to happen. Shame the Tories didnt get an outright majority as they were going to do just that - the Lib Dems unfortunatley put paid to that plan. |
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| Deleted User | May 27 2010, 05:42 PM Post #11 |
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Perhaps if he was put into a prison with a psych' ward and not a hospital this wouldn't have happened! As has already been stated, these animals came here intent on causing death and destruction which is a fundamental breach of OUR human rights. ANY person coming to these shores with these intentions should automatically forfeit the bulk of the human rights that we give them. The same human rights which allow them to play the system, claim benefits, raise a family here and obtain leave to remain here because there is a possibility of persecution or torture in their own country, or another seeking their extradition. "We think you are a terrorist. We can't prove it 100% but to be on the safe side we don't want you in this country and we are deporting you back to where you came from and there will be NO APPEAL. This is OUR country and we reserve the right to refuse admission!" "There's your plane now get on it and f**k off! Come back and we will lock you up indefinitely, this is your only warning!" Now how unfair is that ffs?
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| Deleted User | May 27 2010, 05:44 PM Post #12 |
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Why would they be tortured if they returned to Pakistan, I would have thought they would be hailed as heroes and be given another go at blowing us up. Why are they wasting places that our people could use in psychiatric wards, when they should be in prison? |
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