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Their training the Taliban in first aid!
Topic Started: May 26 2010, 12:44 PM (630 Views)
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The British Red Cross are providing first aid training/kits for the Taliban. Their bloody trying to f**king kill us, why should we f**king let them treat eachother on the battlefield...

I would conclude that the British Red Cross will be responsible for the death or injury of our own lads out in Afghanistan... Why? Well, if for example a taliban fighter gets wounded fighting us... If he would of died or whatever without basic first aid then hes no longer a threat, but if some Taliban fighters survive wounds and go on to fight another day... Then they could be the ones repsonible for a British Soldiers death, or planting IEDS ETC



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/10161136.stm
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its called being a human being and having a soul and not suffering another human being dying in the street. you're either for life or against it, i wouldn't let a nazi die in the street if i could help it...and i'm pakistani.
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May 26 2010, 12:50 PM
its called being a human being and having a soul and not suffering another human being dying in the street. you're either for life or against it, i wouldn't let a nazi die in the street if i could help it...and i'm pakistani.
f**k off...
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May 26 2010, 12:50 PM
its called being a human being and having a soul and not suffering another human being dying in the street. you're either for life or against it, i wouldn't let a nazi die in the street if i could help it...and i'm pakistani.
Bull s**te !!!!

I dam sure the lads out there would rather kill the f**ker than have him comeback at them in a few days after hes been plastered up and off his crutches ....and if i saw a dieing nazi lieing in the street id apply pressure to his head with my size 10s
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May 26 2010, 12:50 PM
its called being a human being and having a soul and not suffering another human being dying in the street. you're either for life or against it, i wouldn't let a nazi die in the street if i could help it...and i'm pakistani.
Pfffff, this isn't a Disney film, mate, it's a ferkin war!!!

In war the aim is to kill the ferkin enemy, not get him back on his feet so you can have another go at killing him another day.
Yes, if we capture a wounded POW then we can treat the twat, but if it's on the battlefield it's killor be killed.
Do you think the Taliban fighters would like to extend the same courtesy to us?
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May 26 2010, 12:50 PM
its called being a human being and having a soul and not suffering another human being dying in the street. you're either for life or against it, i wouldn't let a nazi die in the street if i could help it...and i'm pakistani.
What alot of s**te!!

The bastards deserve to die, they are trying to kill our troops and the red cross want them to know first aid so they can get there injured back up and fighting against or boys.

As for a nazi dying in the street, i'd walk straight past making sure my shoes caught him on the way by.
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We already treat wounded Taliban in our hospitals. We give them the same treatment as OUR troops.

Keef, just to make this clear, when a Taliban is wounded we pick them up and put them back together. When a British soldier is captured by the Taliban they are touched, beaten and often executed.

Giving this sort of aid to the Taliban is just insane. The Red Cross have totally lost the plot. I used to donate to them but not anymore.

To make my position on the war clear, I don’t agree about why they are there. But I support our troops.
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Right, well thats what makes the difference between us and them. How can you claim any sort of moral high ground if you're intent on acting as barbarically as the people you condemn?

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Or you'll do what?

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I dam sure the lads out there would rather kill the f**ker than have him comeback at them in a few days after hes been plastered up and off his crutches ....and if i saw a dieing nazi lieing in the street id apply pressure to his head with my size 10s


What do you want, a lolly? :huh:

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In war the aim is to kill the ferkin enemy, not get him back on his feet so you can have another go at killing him another day.
Yes, if we capture a wounded POW then we can treat the twat, but if it's on the battlefield it's killor be killed.
Do you think the Taliban fighters would like to extend the same courtesy to us?


No but thats what makes us better than them. The aim is to win the war not commit humanitarian atrocities and taint our collective conciousness.

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If I seen a Nazi dieing in the street I'd help him, just as I would anyone. But the difference is, if we were currently at war at Germany, I'd let him die.

If I saw a member of the Taliban, someone who wanted to kill me, dieing, then I'd leave him there.
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I think if keefriffhard was a soldier out there, he'd think very differently.
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May 26 2010, 02:27 PM
If I seen a Nazi dieing in the street I'd help him, just as I would anyone. But the difference is, if we were currently at war at Germany, I'd let him die.

If I saw a member of the Taliban, someone who wanted to kill me, dieing, then I'd leave him there.
Amen.

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I think if keefriffhard was a soldier out there, he'd think very differently.


How wise of you Oh Great Fountain of Eternal Knowledge that you purport to know how perfect strangers that you know nothing about would behave in hypothetical situations :ermm:
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So what if a member if the taliban is shot while planting an IED and recieves first aid, comes back the next day plants and IED and kills 10 troops.

What would you say then, he still deserved first aid even though he was in the middle of planting a device to kill our troops just because he is a human being. No chance!!
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How about you patch em up and hand em over to our boys, PoWs?
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Thats fair enough if our boys get him, but do you think if he gets away or his taliban pals get him first they are gonna hand him over ? no he will be patched up and sent on his merry way to go back to what ever he was doing.
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The red cross should be treating our lads out there not the enemy!
If the taliban or any of the other groups,hamas,hezbollah the mujahdeen etc havent got any medical help then well.......fuk 'em tbh.
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May 26 2010, 12:50 PM
its called being a human being and having a soul and not suffering another human being dying in the street. you're either for life or against it, i wouldn't let a nazi die in the street if i could help it...and i'm pakistani.
Of course a pakistani wouldnt let a nazi die in the street. Any memebr of a muslim country is a brother in arms with the nazis against the evil zionists!!!
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May 26 2010, 02:37 PM
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I think if keefriffhard was a soldier out there, he'd think very differently.


How wise of you Oh Great Fountain of Eternal Knowledge that you purport to know how perfect strangers that you know nothing about would behave in hypothetical situations :ermm:
As an ex-soldier I know all about my side. I don't give a crap about the enemy side. It's kill or be killed. That's how it is in conflicts. Talk to whoever makes the rules.
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The Red Cross would be remiss in its duties as a humanitarian organisation if they started picking and choosing which humans they considered human enough to help.

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The red cross should be treating our lads out there not the enemy!


Have you any idea whatsoever what you're talking about?!?!?! The Red Cross don't help people based on nationality skin colour or how good at darts they are, they help EVERYBODY, thats their job, thats what they do. They're about human beings, whoever they are, whatever they are and wherever they come from.
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By the way its not the BRITISH RED CROSS helping them its the INTERNATIONAL Red cross. If thats the same thing though forgive my ignorance. Either way we shouldnt help are enemy, just give them the chance to surrender if they are unarmed.
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Of course a pakistani wouldnt let a nazi die in the street. Any memebr of a muslim country is a brother in arms with the nazis against the evil zionists!!!


I wouldn't let anybody die in the street. Perhaps i should clarify, i'm british pakistani i.e. i was born here and i've lived here all my life. Thanks for the judgement there though, much appreciated, thank you for purporting to know someone you know nothing at all about except for their nationality. What happened to the EDL not being about predudice? Apparently now the rules are that if you're a member of a muslim country, regardless of religion or personal belief you are a brother in arms with Nazi's, right, OK, got'cha, well, hows this for a counter argument? Suck my cock...the end.

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As an ex-soldier I know all about my side. I don't give a crap about the enemy side. It's kill or be killed. That's how it is in conflicts. Talk to whoever makes the rules.


None of that qualifies you to make a judgement on how i would or wouldn't behave in any given situation, you don't know me.

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By the way its not the BRITISH RED CROSS helping them its the INTERNATIONAL Red cross. If thats the same thing though forgive my ignorance. Either way we shouldnt help are enemy, just give them the chance to surrender if they are unarmed
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Even the British Red Cross helps everybody, Jesus, try talking about something you know about before arbitrarily gobbing off.
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Funny that cos the red creasant only seem to help out Islamics......

I know for a fact if I was in the red cross n theres a choice of saving osama or john I'd be saving John,simple.

Its a war situation not a street situation(where everyone regardless should be dealt with equally),the red cross should be helping our boys,fair enough help those innocent families caught up in the middle of it all but to help enemy fighters is absured.
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Again, some else doesn't understand the concept of humanitarian aid...its really not that complicated, i can walk you through it again *sighs*

Red Cross = helping people

Red Cross (does not equal) picking and choosing who you help.

Red Cross = humanitarian aid organisation

Red Cross (does not equal) ties to nationalism or any ism that dictates to who is or is not worthy of help.

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May 26 2010, 03:07 PM
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Of course a pakistani wouldnt let a nazi die in the street. Any memebr of a muslim country is a brother in arms with the nazis against the evil zionists!!!


I wouldn't let anybody die in the street. Perhaps i should clarify, i'm british pakistani i.e. i was born here and i've lived here all my life. Thanks for the judgement there though, much appreciated, thank you for purporting to know someone you know nothing at all about except for their nationality. What happened to the EDL not being about predudice? Apparently now the rules are that if you're a member of a muslim country, regardless of religion or personal belief you are a brother in arms with Nazi's, right, OK, got'cha, well, hows this for a counter argument? Suck my cock...the end.
Its a joke, I will work harder on my punchlines in the future though.

As for your counter argument keep your homosexual tendancies to yourself. I'm not homophobic but I'm not down with homosexuality one bit. I bet you was over the moon when they brought a british gay pakistani character into eastenders. Anyway mate, I meant no offence I'm avin' a laugh.
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I'm sorry, i thought you were actually...saying something you believed in with the whole muslims are nazi's thing...can't blame me, its been bandied around a fair bit around here. And no, Marc Elliot ain't my type (and yet i know his name ;) ), i'm more of a Russell Brand sort of lad...and he's straight :( LOL
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I'm sorry, i thought you were actually...saying something you believed in with the whole muslims are nazi's thing...can't blame me, its been bandied around a fair bit around here. And no, Marc Elliot ain't my type (and yet i know his name ;) ), i'm more of a Russell Brand sort of lad...and he's straight :( LOL
Good to see you can have a laugh.
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I understand the fact the the red cross are meant to help everybody but at the end of the day most British people are not going to support the idea of a charity helping the people that are trying to kill our troops. I for one do not!
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May 26 2010, 12:50 PM
its called being a human being and having a soul and not suffering another human being dying in the street. you're either for life or against it, i wouldn't let a nazi die in the street if i could help it...and i'm pakistani.
Shut up you f**king mug.
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I guess they'd do the same eh?

Come on let's get abit realistic ffs the Taliban are TERRORISTS, not a normal army like the Wehrmacht were. It's war, not a game of f**king lazer quest is it?
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May 26 2010, 03:11 PM
Again, some else doesn't understand the concept of humanitarian aid...its really not that complicated, i can walk you through it again *sighs*

Red Cross = helping people

Red Cross (does not equal) picking and choosing who you help.

Red Cross = humanitarian aid organisation

Red Cross (does not equal) ties to nationalism or any ism that dictates to who is or is not worthy of help.

Isn't is the Red Cross TRAINING the Taliban in first aid??

There is a big diffrence between helping someone in the street to training some one isn't there?? especially the Taliban.

If a Taliban fighter saw a wounded British soldier in the middle of the road they would capture him parade him on tv and then cut off his head. The Red Cross are traitors.
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Its fair to say that if the Taliban found a UK or US soldier wounded the only reason they would not execute them there and then would be for reasons of bribery or public execution.
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thats pretty disgraceful from the red cross they are helping out a group of terrorists who have used women and chidren as shields did they ever think that with each taliban member that dies it probably saves several civillian lives...... and if people dont want to comment anything constructive pm each other instead of wasting everyones time swapping childish insults
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Come on let's get abit realistic ffs the Taliban are TERRORISTS, not a normal army like the Wehrmacht were. It's war, not a game of f**king lazer quest is it?


They're terrorist now we've taken them out of power in Afghanistan, yes. Before that they governed the country.

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Isn't is the Red Cross TRAINING the Taliban in first aid??

There is a big diffrence between helping someone in the street to training some one isn't there?? especially the Taliban.

If a Taliban fighter saw a wounded British soldier in the middle of the road they would capture him parade him on tv and then cut off his head. The Red Cross are traitors.


Traitors to what?!?! They're humanitarians, they don't claim to adhere to any doctrine aside from that. And SO WHAT if the Taliban wouldn't help, the Taliban behead people and mistreat women, should we start doing that as well?

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Its fair to say that if the Taliban found a UK or US soldier wounded the only reason they would not execute them there and then would be for reasons of bribery or public execution.


Therefore its our duty to not behave like them, thats the whole point, we're supposed to be fighting that way of doing things.
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May 26 2010, 04:21 PM
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May 26 2010, 03:11 PM
Again, some else doesn't understand the concept of humanitarian aid...its really not that complicated, i can walk you through it again *sighs*

Red Cross = helping people

Red Cross (does not equal) picking and choosing who you help.

Red Cross = humanitarian aid organisation

Red Cross (does not equal) ties to nationalism or any ism that dictates to who is or is not worthy of help.

Isn't is the Red Cross TRAINING the Taliban in first aid??

There is a big diffrence between helping someone in the street to training some one isn't there?? especially the Taliban.

If a Taliban fighter saw a wounded British soldier in the middle of the road they would capture him parade him on tv and then cut off his head. The Red Cross are traitors.
Perhaps the red cross can train the Taliban to such a high standard, they will be able to sew peoples heads back on.
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Oh also, don't we all mean the Red Crescent? ;)
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Keefriffhard. Your right, the Taliban did govern Afghanistan by terror and fear. So they have always been terrorists. Also are you a Muslim and what's your reason for being here? Do you support the EDL?
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I presumed in the region of this conflict it would be the red cresent operating this form of service.

Any keef are you joining us in newcastle for an excellent day of demonstrations against militant islam,you can bring your st john ambulance uniform and suprise us all.
And no more getting personal,stay on topic and let's be civil.I've never read any of your other postings but let's not loose our focus.
What part of the sub continent are you from and are you an islamist or other.let's see you open a thread on counter jihad and I will make my mind up .

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Any keef are you joining us in newcastle for an excellent day of demonstrations against militant islam,you can bring your st john ambulance uniform and suprise us all.


I'm not unfortunately, no, i tend to avoid being part of groups...there's always a thing or two i find myself not agreeing with, y'know? Having said that i'd join a decent band if i was offered :D

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And no more getting personal,stay on topic and let's be civil.I've never read any of your other postings but let's not loose our focus.


I've been perfectly civil here unless confronted with people who speak to me in a manner that is less than civil. Even then i'll pretty much been polite. You should see this PM i got ;)

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What part of the sub continent are you from and are you an islamist or other.let's see you open a thread on counter jihad and I will make my mind up .


I'm from England, born and bred, i'm not an anything-ist. Punk is the closest to any mentality i've ever considered worth aligning with and even then there are something i find a little constrictive. Counter-Jihad thread? You probably won't see the day because i don't think a lot of the western world has a proper grasp of what the term means. Its basically means struggle...sacrifice...which includes fighting in a war for your country and...struggling to make ends meet to feed your family...and all in between, its a very broad term with a plethora of connotations and not specific to war or violence...not in the least.

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Keefriffhard. Your right, the Taliban did govern Afghanistan by terror and fear. So they have always been terrorists. Also are you a Muslim and what's your reason for being here? Do you support the EDL?


By that rationale the Nixon administration were terrorists too, just ask Jerry Rubin :D Am i a muslim? no. My reason for being here? I find the EDL interesting as a concept. Do i support them? Undecided. I find certain aspects quite admirable and i think its conceptually interesting but i don't it translates so well into reality so far. Shame.
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Salt is a good thing to give away, and free morphine, 30mg's per injection. So they die peacefully.
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Salt is a good thing to give away, and free morphine, 30mg's per injection. So they die peacefully.

They don't need any more morphine with all those poppies

they grow.
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Salt is a good thing to give away, and free morphine, 30mg's per injection. So they die peacefully.

They don't need any more morphine with all those poppies

they grow.
They don't need to know it's morphine.

Allah's super duper invincibility cloak syrup.
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I can't believe some of you on here can honestly sit around talking about murdering people and then try and claim some sort of moral high ground over people that are...well...murdering people..
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I can't believe some of you on here can honestly sit around talking about murdering people and then try and claim some sort of moral high ground over people that are...well...murdering people..
People aren't talking about killing innocents though, are they. They're talking about terrorists and they should all be got rid of, completely.
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Its one thing to want to fight terrorists or whomever in defence of your way of life or when you feel threatened...its quite another to say you would kick a helpless injured man, enemy combatant or otherwise, to death were you afforded the oppertunity. Thats my friend is not valiant warfare for a just cause, that is deliberate cruelty and decidedly sadistic. Joking about injecting masses of helpless injured people with salt so they die is cold and cruel. Wisecracks about their faith and God, that is not Tommy in the trenches, there's nothing righteous about that sort of behaviour.
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Mate I may be wrong here but you seem to have this view that everybody should love everyone and there should be no wars ect; in the world. Yes it would be nice if everybody could get on and so forth but thats just not the way life works. Wars happen and in war cruel things happen. You need to pull your head out of the clouds and relise that we don't live in a war free peaceful world and to be honest I don't think we ever will.

And another thing.....You seem to be for helping injured terrorists an awfull lot. Are you really an EDL supporter or are you just another troll....
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Pffff, why can't we make wisecracks about a senseless, stupid, unfounded, unproven and morally corrupt ''religion''?
I do it about christianity all the time, why stop for Islam?

As for the salt injection type comments, I'm sure they're tongue in cheek, mate.
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If the people are the enemy and they started a war, why the hell should we help them? Kick them to the kerb, that's all they're fit for. I'm all for helping anyone but I wouldn't spit on the enemy if they were on fire.
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Pffff, why can't we make wisecracks about a senseless, stupid, unfounded, unproven and morally corrupt ''religion''?
I do it about christianity all the time, why stop for Islam?

As for the salt injection type comments, I'm sure they're tongue in cheek, mate.
I argee. If Christians and Jews cried instead of laughing with others about thier own religion, then they turn out just like the extremists.
Threating and targeting any and everyone who makes fun of them.

When people make fun of Jews calling us penny grabbers and jokes about Jewish men "getting their d!cks cut off (circumcision)" I joke with them.
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