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Topic Started: May 25 2010, 06:22 PM (719 Views)
DudleyLion
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A good way to raise awarness for our cause and raise vital funds would be to hold a festival.too late for this year but could be organised for next year.it could be a celebration of all the diverse cultures that help make up this nation.Does anybody know a farmer with some land he would be willing to rent out for such an event.cornwall is nice in august.
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Good idea
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Works well for BNP........ (Joke)

Cost of security from the UAF nuts and co would be the only downside.
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Sorry keyboard problems :$

Could be a two day event ,£100 a ticket ,a band or two ,disco a few pig roasts,and of course a few beer tents .

EDL could give speaches ,sell there wares and if everyone behaved and had a good time it would be good publicity and help change the thug image that poeple are so quick to lable the edl with .


Just an idea :D
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Sounds great.

Kinda like an open day you get for universities. Lol
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Sounds like a good idea, as EDL supporters would get to socialise and meet others, whilst newcomers could see what we're all about, so therefore a good recruitment method.

However. You would have to think about the costs, and as mentioned above, out loveable friends from the UAF/SWP would no doubt try to gatecrash it.

Edit: I'm not sure how many present supporters, never mind people who don't know much about us, would be willing to splash out 100 quid.
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Would the band that does the EDL soundtrack be able to play a set or two,sorry dont know there name im new here you see.

If the UAF did show up and try to cause grief then they would show there true colours.(again)
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Good Idea, dunno about Cornwal tho, there are a good few bottle necks on the road there.

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Cornwall was just a suggestion ,very picturesque,could be held anywhere i suppose.
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good idea, cold be done over a bank holiday
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A fund raiser evening would be a good start imo.
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It shouldn't be hard to hire a field somewhere. We could keep it secret until the day so the farmer wouldn't be harrased.

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Great idea, big security issue though. I can picture loads of muslims and UAF coming to ruin it.
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Thats why i suggested cornwall,not many extremists in newquay :)

Would have to be all ticket which could be sold by the individual divisions.
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DudleyLion
May 25 2010, 07:16 PM
Thats why i suggested cornwall,not many extremists in newquay :)

Would have to be all ticket which could be sold by the individual divisions.
Which excludes the public......
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No no, Bradford is a must!!

No place in England is off limits!!
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May 25 2010, 07:00 PM
Would the band that does the EDL soundtrack be able to play a set or two,sorry dont know there name im new here you see.

If the UAF did show up and try to cause grief then they would show there true colours.(again)
alex and the bandits mate
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^_^ How about a 1960s tent?
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This is a great idea, somewhere in the Midlands would be best as it's central to everyone. As for £100, I go to a couple of rock weekends a year and it's usually arond £25/£30, that includes the camping, and they have groups on all weekend, so I think the £100 is over the top, especially with so many people out of work at the moment.

Local divisions could sell the tickets, as long as everyone knows where the tickets are going and to whom, there shouldn't be many that get out to undesirables. Just make sure whoever holds the tickets knows what they're doing.

Local bands are not too expensive and there's plenty of farmers that would hire their fields out to make some cash.
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Cheers for the bands name.The 100quid was just a number as an example.
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EDL angels wet tee shirt competition.

Winner gets to come home with me.
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May 25 2010, 07:42 PM
EDL angels wet tee shirt competition.

Winner gets to come home with me.
:D
Is that tynie the 2nd?
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EDL angels wet tee shirt competition.

Winner gets to come home with me.
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Is that tynie the 2nd?
I'd love to take Tynie home.

He can be a token of appreciation from the EDL to me for turning up, and suggesting such a marvellous event for a possible event.
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:) Can we have the 1960s tent?
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If you are having a 1960"tent i want a 1980"s tent. :P ;)
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May 25 2010, 08:25 PM
If you are having a 1960"tent i want a 1980"s tent. :P ;)
AND I WANT 90s TENT :wub: :D ;)
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No UAF or mussies would show at an EDL festival, they wouldn't have the balls to walk right into the lion's den with no OB to protect them.
I reckon the festival's a very good idea. But, all that booze, all those old football rivalries??? I think there might be pockets of trouble to be honest. I'd love to be proved wrong.
The other thing to look out for would be the insurance cost for staging such an event,public liability etc??
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is there defo going to be one?

I'm getting all excited now. :D :D
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May 25 2010, 08:30 PM
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May 25 2010, 08:25 PM
If you are having a 1960"tent i want a 1980"s tent. :P ;)
AND I WANT 90s TENT :wub: :D ;)

I want a 2010 Winnebago! :)
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May 25 2010, 06:22 PM
A good way to raise awarness for our cause and raise vital funds would be to hold a festival.too late for this year but could be organised for next year.it could be a celebration of all the diverse cultures that help make up this nation.Does anybody know a farmer with some land he would be willing to rent out for such an event.cornwall is nice in august.
Hi Dudley

A fair idea however if such an event was going to take place a venue would need to be selected that made it easy for as many people to attend as possible. Whilst Cornwall is certainly a beautiful part of this land it is not that easy to get to for a large number of people.

That said I guess the reality might be more on the lines of where it would be possible to stage such an event. I believe the BNP festival is on land being either leased or owned by one of its members.

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May 25 2010, 07:16 PM
Thats why i suggested cornwall,not many extremists in newquay :)

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May 25 2010, 08:25 PM
If you are having a 1960"tent i want a 1980"s tent. :P ;)
Damned right there mate! ^_^
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May 25 2010, 06:37 PM
Works well for BNP........ (Joke)

Cost of security from the UAF nuts and co would be the only downside.
Hi Dave

Well certainly the UAF use the BNP event as an excuse to terrorise the locals and attack the Police so there is a large Police presence. I've no idea whether the BNP have to pay any money towards the policing cost. My gut feel is probably not as the Police are there to ensure the peace from a counter demonstration.

In terms of paid security then I'm not sure what the law is on this. That is in theory the EDL could use volunteer stewards however in recent years the laws for security guards have been amended for pubs and clubs in order to attempt to tackle the thug element. However certainly a good idea worth exploring.

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May 25 2010, 06:59 PM
Sounds like a good idea, as EDL supporters would get to socialise and meet others, whilst newcomers could see what we're all about, so therefore a good recruitment method.

However. You would have to think about the costs, and as mentioned above, out loveable friends from the UAF/SWP would no doubt try to gatecrash it.

Edit: I'm not sure how many present supporters, never mind people who don't know much about us, would be willing to splash out 100 quid.
Hi Gorgie

Do you think the UAF/SWP would actually try to gatecrash the event in as much as try to get in the event rather than counter protest outside?

It's obviously sensible policy to consider such issues. Likewise would any far right try to get gatecrash the event?

In terms of the costs up front etc. then personally I have never been involved with anything that would resemble anything like this. Do you or any EDLer have any experience of these types of events?

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May 25 2010, 07:13 PM
Great idea, big security issue though. I can picture loads of muslims and UAF coming to ruin it.
Hi SLK

It depends where it is held. That said I didn't go to Dudley however from what I've read it seemed like more Muslims turned up for the roof top protest made by the lads than they did for the fully blown Mosque demo. If an EDL/ Defence Leagues of Britain event was to take place in Notts for example with 5,000 members attending do we think that many Muslims would feel compelled to travel?

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It would defo take a lot of organising thats why i suggested next year,the insurance would need looking into ,and things like hire of generators,porta loo!s ,im a sparky so i could sort the electrics and provide the certification required to satisfy any insurance or local authority,any more sparkies in the camp?do we have any other trades that could be usefull?


Would the EDL leadership endorse such an event?


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Best idea ive heard all year
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lol im 99.9% sure my trade cant contribute 2 much. motor mechanic for mercedes benz :)
ill fix + service the cars and mini busses that arrive lol
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May 25 2010, 08:38 PM
No UAF or mussies would show at an EDL festival, they wouldn't have the balls to walk right into the lion's den with no OB to protect them.
I reckon the festival's a very good idea. But, all that booze, all those old football rivalries??? I think there might be pockets of trouble to be honest. I'd love to be proved wrong.
The other thing to look out for would be the insurance cost for staging such an event,public liability etc??
Hi E

Regarding the football rivalries then the EDL could ask that no football colours are worn on the day. That said how many of us don't have mates from rival clubs. You will always get people that become idiots after a few beers however if the EDL put out a good number of stewards and the message is to everyone to stamp out any trouble then I would doubt there would be anything other than a few isolated incidents.

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Just found a insurance company that specialise in festivals of varying sizes ,looks like £5 million public liability is the norm ,have requeasted a quote.
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You would need public liability covering you as high as possible - for PL up to £5 million, I was paying £280 a year as a small business and that of course covered me for attending or hosting public events. The only areas that were not included were "dangerous sports" so not sure if you'd be covered if the grerat unwashed were to turn up ROFLMFAO ;)

Public liability is not hard to get for a business or organisation, you an pay for a year of insurance as I mentioned or you can take out insurance covering you for a specifi one off event although that is usually as costly as a full annual premium.

Is the EDL registered as an organisation anywhere - eg Companies House as a non-profit which is what the Yellow Ribbon Foundation is? If not, its something to seriously consider as it not only gives you highly valued credibility when talking to people about business matters, such as hiring a field for a festival, but also to the public because you are accountable to Companies House for all your accounts.

Not that hard to do - hell if I can do it so can you if you havent already LOL :P
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May 25 2010, 09:31 PM
lol im 99.9% sure my trade cant contribute 2 much. motor mechanic for mercedes benz :)
ill fix + service the cars and mini busses that arrive lol
Hi Smokey

Well there you go. You can service and repair the RV that Ruby is determined to arrive in and insure she gets home in it.

I would like to run a coconut shy with images of Choudary, Bin Laden, Martin Smith and Weyman Bennett on the coconuts. Perhaps there could be one grand prize of a crappy old Merc you have serviced and repaired :0)

All the best :0)
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This would be brilliant if it could be sorted and possibly make quire abit towards funding the EDL.
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Sounds like a great idea if its possible...

EDLStock!!! :D
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lol im 99.9% sure my trade cant contribute 2 much. motor mechanic for mercedes benz :)
ill fix + service the cars and mini busses that arrive lol
Hi Smokey

Well there you go. You can service and repair the RV that Ruby is determined to arrive in and insure she gets home in it.

I would like to run a coconut shy with images of Choudary, Bin Laden, Martin Smith and Weyman Bennett on the coconuts. Perhaps there could be one grand prize of a crappy old Merc you have serviced and repaired :0)

All the best :0)
"Well there you go. You can service and repair the RV that Ruby is determined to arrive in and insure she gets home in it."

lol, Can I give you a lift? :)
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Ooh, can we try and get the real thing? :)
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lol im 99.9% sure my trade cant contribute 2 much. motor mechanic for mercedes benz :)
ill fix + service the cars and mini busses that arrive lol
Hi Smokey

Well there you go. You can service and repair the RV that Ruby is determined to arrive in and insure she gets home in it.

I would like to run a coconut shy with images of Choudary, Bin Laden, Martin Smith and Weyman Bennett on the coconuts. Perhaps there could be one grand prize of a crappy old Merc you have serviced and repaired :0)

All the best :0)
Can i have a go on the coconut shy that would be quality, well i lay tarmac and kerb and do groundworks so i could help prepare the site ect mind you if theres beer tents can i get the ground ready for them first lol jokes
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May 25 2010, 06:59 PM
Sounds like a good idea, as EDL supporters would get to socialise and meet others, whilst newcomers could see what we're all about, so therefore a good recruitment method.

However. You would have to think about the costs, and as mentioned above, out loveable friends from the UAF/SWP would no doubt try to gatecrash it.

Edit: I'm not sure how many present supporters, never mind people who don't know much about us, would be willing to splash out 100 quid.
Hi Gorgie

Do you think the UAF/SWP would actually try to gatecrash the event in as much as try to get in the event rather than counter protest outside?

It's obviously sensible policy to consider such issues. Likewise would any far right try to get gatecrash the event?

In terms of the costs up front etc. then personally I have never been involved with anything that would resemble anything like this. Do you or any EDLer have any experience of these types of events?

Regards
Thanks for the reply.

To be perfectly honest, I believe they would do anything they could to ruin such an event, as violence would most likely shine badly on us.
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I know this is a long shot :D but is any member also anything to do with St Johns Ambulance ?have been on there web site and they do attend festivals as long as no threat of danger to there volunteers.
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A festival is a very good idea i think most of us would work for free. Ive worked alot on festivals around brittain mainly litter picking and things . If attention was paid to the right mix of music and dance tents then it could have a huge influance upon the youth.
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May 25 2010, 09:31 PM
lol im 99.9% sure my trade cant contribute 2 much. motor mechanic for mercedes benz :)
ill fix + service the cars and mini busses that arrive lol
Hi Smokey

Well there you go. You can service and repair the RV that Ruby is determined to arrive in and insure she gets home in it.

I would like to run a coconut shy with images of Choudary, Bin Laden, Martin Smith and Weyman Bennett on the coconuts. Perhaps there could be one grand prize of a crappy old Merc you have serviced and repaired :0)

All the best :0)
"Well there you go. You can service and repair the RV that Ruby is determined to arrive in and insure she gets home in it."

lol, Can I give you a lift? :)
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"I would like to run a coconut shy with images of Choudary, Bin Laden, Martin Smith and Weyman Bennett on the coconuts."
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Ooh, can we try and get the real thing? :)
LOL The real thing would be ace, I'd be practising for months before to make sure I didn't miss :D
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