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| Deleted User | May 26 2010, 08:17 PM Post #101 |
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Because if Brummie had reported the 'English bulldog' remark it wouldn't have got investigated. |
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| keefriffhard | May 26 2010, 08:20 PM Post #102 |
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Yeah but you don't know that until you find out...and he didn't have no problem keeping his job after the accusations levelled against him by the guy so its not as if everything fell on deaf management ears, is it? |
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| Deleted User | May 26 2010, 08:20 PM Post #103 |
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WEll yes they did. |
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| Deleted User | May 26 2010, 08:22 PM Post #104 |
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Thing is, that could quite easily not have been the case. Whether you missing the point deliberately or you're just a bit stupid I just don't know. |
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| keefriffhard | May 26 2010, 08:51 PM Post #105 |
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Perhaps thats it, perhaps i'm just stupid but it appears to me you're clutching at straws, how does "that could quite easily have not been the case" possibly make what you're saying make any sense? You're backing up your point with a hypothesis when the reality reflects the direction opposite, it kind of makes your point a little redundant. Its like saying BEWARE OF RAPISTS!!! My daughter was out on the town last night and whilst walking home alone she walked past a dark alley from whence a voice beckon "'c'mere darlin'"...like a DAMNED FOOL she sauntered over and spake "yes sir, and what can i do for you?" with a flutter of the eyelashes. A man shuffled out from the darkness and said.... "Got a light?" So she gave him a light and off she went! The moral of this story is...beware of rapists!! Oh, yeah, uhm, no rape actually occured but "that could quite easily not have been the case!" Just ridiculous |
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| Deleted User | May 26 2010, 09:05 PM Post #106 |
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Just ridiculous I couldn't have summed up your post any better. Just curious, why are you here? Is it to convince us we are all racist? I will tell you now don't bother because I have had the last 25 years of people saying to me and those around me in the community we grew up in those same words when we had concerns about what was going on around us. At least I don't have to worry about it now as its not our community anymore and most people managed to get out. |
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| avfc1982 | May 26 2010, 09:20 PM Post #107 |
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Not sure why you're here mate, you're obviously not in support of the edl. Why are you trying to dilute racism against whites just because it happens to asians? It's happened to your dad and you, we feel sorry for you, but you need to accept racism is alive and well towards whites these days. I see and expierience it daily, being a minority ethnic in birmingham. That isn't an over reaction - I am a minority. |
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| avfc1982 | May 26 2010, 09:25 PM Post #108 |
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christians didn't do that though you moron. Don't come here with your anti christian propoganda, bush didn't start that war for christianty, he did it for oil and was and still is vilified by most christians. Most of your muslim folk hero worship the terrorists who blew up the towers. neither of the world wars were to do with religion, hitler was an atheist. In summary, you're repeating every anti white argument in the book and it aint gonna cut here. |
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| avfc1982 | May 26 2010, 09:27 PM Post #109 |
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they're trying to claim jewish land right now, the war mongering c**ts. |
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| keefriffhard | May 26 2010, 09:28 PM Post #110 |
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I'm not, i'm just showing that there is a head to every tails, doesn't dilute the notion of racism at all, far from it, i'm trying to show that just cuz you've suffered from racism or predudice doesn't mean you should then take up predudice of your own.
I wasn't saying it for sympathy (but thank you all the same) i was saying it to illustrate that...if it don't kill you it only makes you stronger, right? You come out of that s**t being the better person because it shows you what c**ts predudiced people are, it shouldn't then spur you on to taking up predudices of your own...
I know its probably completely meaningless coming from me but i really am truly and genuinely sorry about that..i really am.. |
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| avfc1982 | May 26 2010, 09:34 PM Post #111 |
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cheers for this post, looking back, I've probably been two harsh in the following posts. accept my apoligies? I just have to face these accusations daily, christians are peados, terrorists for invading iraq, hitler worshippers, all the other s**t and it seemed as if you were just repeating it all. Though some of my points still stand. The thing is, one muslim I work with has a picture of bin laden as his phone screen, and boasted about having a video of ken bigleys execution, yet still manages to try and get the moral high ground because 'da whites invaded iraq'. I didn't invade iraq, i wish we would pull out of there right now. |
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| keefriffhard | May 26 2010, 09:37 PM Post #112 |
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Correct, which is why i never said anything of the sort.
What in the name of Ronnie Barkers Belly are you going on about?!?!?! Are you like, hallucinating or something? Where did i express the slightest bit of anti christian sentiment?!?!?! Are we reading the same things here?!?!
OK, now you're REALLY talking out of your arse..
Excuse me but f**k you. How dare you call me anti white! So far i'm the only person on this forum i've seen so far that talks about equality for ALL, white black brown christian muslim jew whatever. Anti white, you f**kin what?!?! Where? this is the entire post that evoked your response..
Now what part of that was your brain completely incapable of sussing out? Its really quite clear, read it. The fella whoose post i was replying to was saying that muslims were CONSTANTLY at war with every nation and i was pointing out that in fact there are a multitude of wars, VERY costly wars that were not muslim perpetrated, now how on earth does saying something is NOT muslim perpetrated equate to saying it was Christian perpetrated?!?!?!?!!?!?! And the last bit, the bit that says i think you'll find a lot changes in the history of a faith in 600 years, just look at christianity was in response to the same poster saying that although Islam was younger than the other Abrahamic religions (and therefore less evolved) he didn't think it would change much in 600 years and i was saying that it would because look how Christianity has changed over 600 years. Now was any of that racist!?!?!?!?! or predudiced against christians or whatever. Please read things and engage your brain before chucking accusations around at people. If you don't understand something, you're more than welcome to ask me what it means, i'll explain if you like but how dare you call me a racist, f**k you.. |
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| avfc1982 | May 26 2010, 09:39 PM Post #113 |
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Might I add I havn't actually called you racist. And I have apologized, heat of the moment stufff. |
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| keefriffhard | May 26 2010, 09:42 PM Post #114 |
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f**k em...don't let the c**ts drag you down to their level man, bollocks to em, he who shouts loudest has the smallest nob as Henry the 8th once said Seriously though, f**k em, who cares, they're wankers. You bother them because they're nobheads, the minute you behave like em, they've won.And no need to apologise fella
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| Deleted User | May 26 2010, 09:42 PM Post #115 |
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Because it's been the case in many other cases. A bit of lateral thinking, kuffir. My point has been resurrected. I would say that being wary of rapists is a very good approach to take. I know you think you've made a good point but re-read it and you'll see that you really don't. Good try though. |
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| avfc1982 | May 26 2010, 09:43 PM Post #116 |
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Yep, you're right. The reason I posted such s**t, I've even had it today about 'whites being peados and druggies' and all that s**t - and without turning this into a sob story I've been feeling pissed off since.
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| keefriffhard | May 26 2010, 09:45 PM Post #117 |
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I think i was busy typing all that bollocks while you were apologising, sorry, egg on my face, spinach on my teeth!
This is just tail chasing cuz i could say the same to you but i suppose it all boils down to one choice. Living in fear or taking things as they come and dealing with them in that way. Personally, i'm for the second option, lifes too short.
Thats a f**kin piss take innit? Druggies?!?! Those boys in Birmingham smoke more f**kin skunk than most rastas i know.. Edited by keefriffhard, May 26 2010, 09:46 PM.
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| Deleted User | May 26 2010, 09:53 PM Post #118 |
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You've invented a false dichotomy. I'm not living in fear but I see no reason why I should just wait to see what happens if the tentacles of Islam are allowed to take hold in this country. You see, there aren't only two options, kuffir. |
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| ignominius | May 26 2010, 10:04 PM Post #119 |
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Keefriffhard is not a muslim. He's not even asian. His writing style changes too often to be a genuine asian muslim. Sure he peppers his posts occasionaly with the style of that ilk...cuz etc....and then reverts back to a more cultured and better educated style. Just an observation. Not that there aren't cultured educated muslims but I've never come across one on a forum like this. |
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| keefriffhard | May 26 2010, 10:06 PM Post #120 |
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im not saying one should be reckless but at the same time this constant bombardment of like BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE!!! MUSLIMS MUSLIMS MUSLIMS!!!! And walk out in the street in the high street of most of the towns in England and its like....little old muslim ladies doing their shopping and...students coming out of colleges and...lads talking and...i wanna know where all this stuff we're supposed to be so afraid of is, i wanna go there, i wanna see what a terrorist looks like in the flesh Surely if there's THAT many of them that are such a constant threat we must see these vicious violent creatures... |
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| keefriffhard | May 26 2010, 10:08 PM Post #121 |
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D'ya want my msn? I can prove to you exactly who and what i am And what exactly is it that a muslim types like you cheeky git? I'm even on youtube, wanna see?
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| Ash_G | May 26 2010, 10:10 PM Post #122 |
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No direct racism but I know many ex service guys who have experianced "positive discrimination" when trying to join services such as the Police and Fire services. |
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| Deleted User | May 26 2010, 10:14 PM Post #123 |
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Hi Keefriffhard. I hope you don't mind, can I ask you some personal questions? So as to understand you a bit better, plus I'm a nosey f**ker. You say that your parents are Pakistani, what religion are they and why don't you follow that religion? You say you like punk rock music, so it sounds to me you have pretty much integrated into western culture. Do your parents approve of you liking western music and going to punk gigs? I assume by your taste in music that most of your friends are white. Do you get any hassle from fellow Pakistani's because of your life style? Also have you experienced any racism from white people when you have attended punk gigs? |
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| Deleted User | May 26 2010, 10:15 PM Post #124 |
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Fella, don`t know who you are or what your intentions are. Constantly putting the remarks you are doing is going to end up one way. We have people on here who have been directly affected by stuff that these terrorists (note, no smiley after that word) have done. So, in the best manner and as polite as I can be - wind your neck in. |
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| ignominius | May 26 2010, 10:19 PM Post #125 |
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Keef you try to use street speak just like that asian youths do but then your natural style comes through. I am not insulting you or trying to put you down. I was just making an observation. Your are reasonabley well educated and the from the way you write I deduce that you are not a muslim. I've spent years debating muslims of all intellectual levels and even the ones with Phd's descend to a style of verbal abuse and threat that is unique to muslims. And if you had spent time on muslim forums as I have you would pickup that the the large majority of muslims tend to write the way they speak and text. - cuz u r etc.....showing the complete lack of the english language and these are lads who were born and educated here in Britain. Which leads me to the deduction that you are not a muslim. I could be wrong, but you don't come across as a muslim. There are no in'shallah's , nothing that would mark you out which is more typical of the average muslim. I don't want your msn because I have no desire or need to communicate without outside of this forum. Your general knowledge of Islam is a bit lacking which is a bit of a give-a-way. |
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| keefriffhard | May 26 2010, 10:26 PM Post #126 |
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Course you can.
Muslim and i don't follow it cuz it just ain't for me.
I don't know, my Dad thinks music is a waste of time generally but...well, not a waste of time but to him its just something you put on the radio when you drive to work y'know? Nothing to base your life around. Hey. i was at The Sex Pistols reunion at brixton, i'm the on the new dvd and on the front cover, i'm fame-arse ![]()
No, mixed bag really.
No, they just generally think i'm a weird c**t but they're probably right but...they just look at me funny but its nothing unusual, i don't just listen to punk i listen to like...rock n roll from Buddy Holly and...old blues stuff like Muddy Waters Blind Lemon Jefferson, lots of mowtown, LOTS of british invasion stuff and...i suppose it is a bit unusual for my demograpghic but i certainly don't get any hassle about it. I do find that...being pakistani does alienate me a bit from the normal punk rock crowd and being into punk rock alienates me a bit from the pakistani crowd but so what, can't complain, musn't grumble, who gives a s**t, its just life innit? Just play the hand you're dealt and see what comes out in the wash ![]()
Just once at The Pistols gig and it don't qualify really, this bloke up front just goes "you wanna watch yourself mate, the NF lot are here"...thats it, no racism, no nothing. I suppose Johnny Rotten helped, standing onstage screaming "I SEE A LOT OF FACES OUT HERE, BLACK, BROWN, WHITE, IT DONT MATTER, ITS ALL UNDER ONE f**kING BANNER, THIS IS ENGLAAAAAND!!!" and things to that effect, god bless him.
I'm not trying to offend and i don't think i've said anything offensive other than...lets not start taking out on the many what is, so far, the actions of the very very few, which is akin to a call for calm, certainly not provocative or offensive and i apologise if it has appeared that way to you.. |
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| keefriffhard | May 26 2010, 10:34 PM Post #127 |
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I must be a bit unusual then, i dunno. I think i'm reasonably well spoken if not well educated, my normal...manner is pretty typical of people from my area of the world (i.e. south east england) that aren't making a concerted effort to talk like an American rapper.
I don't have a "lack of the english language" (which is a nonsensical term by the way, i thought that quite ironic in a sentence that effectively sought to criticise a lacking in a peoples grasp of the english vernacular (oooh, see that? another big word LOL!!) Sorry, just messing around ![]()
I said i was born in a muslim family, i didnt say i was a muslim. Should've been an apostrophe there in didn't, i apologise LOL!!
That's OK, no bother, just thought i might suprise ya, maybe not LOL! |
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| Deleted User | May 26 2010, 10:44 PM Post #128 |
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I'm not being rude to you mate or calling you a liar but I find it really hard to believe that your parents are so easy going, considering they are Muslims. I lived next door to a Muslim Bangladeshi family for years, so I know how strict they are with their children. World war three nearly started in their house, just because one of the daughters put an East seventeen poster up on her wall. Surely if your parents are Muslim, you must have been brought up as a Muslim but you say you are an atheist. I thought leaving Islam is punishable by death. Surely your parents would have dis-owned you by now. The more questions I ask you, the more confused I am getting. |
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| ignominius | May 26 2010, 10:50 PM Post #129 |
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Well Keef, I did say I could be wrong about you. And quite right about the bit about a complete lack of the English language. I meant to write a complete lack of a command of the english language. Which does make sense. Whilst we don't have a problem with people taking a contrary point of view when it's backed up, after all a good debate is interesting and informative, but when things are tossed in seemingly to stir up, it makes us suspect that you are uaf or bnp/white supremacist infiltrator trying to get us to say things that make us look bad (not that we need much help there sometimes). Carry on being contentious if it's with good intentions but please don't wind people up just to have a good laugh. After all that I hope that you do stay around and see what we are really about instead of just trying to wind up some of the others here. |
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| keefriffhard | May 26 2010, 10:56 PM Post #130 |
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They weren't when i was younger but...i dunno, its not like they could hear what was in my headphones or particularly cared what i was listening to upstairs on my stereo at a respectfully low volume and now i'm a grown man so who gives a f**k?
Yeah they did, i just never believed in it and when i got older i just never practised and...i dunno, here i am. And i'm not an atheist, i just don't believe in anything, atheism is an actual belief i.e. there is no God, science can explain anything, when we die we're dead, i don't exactly believe that, i don't believe anything in particular, i don't care what happens after life, i'll find out soon enough, i'm in no hurry to be a dead person, lets just do this life bit while we're here, we'll deal with dying when it comes, thats my thinking.
Well i've never really told em to be honest. I don't really think its anybodys business, they've never really asked either but they see what i'm like and the way i behave and its certainly not Islamic or in tune with Islam or whatever, they do lay the God bit on me sometimes, usually when i'm going yeah yeah yeah or walking out the door LOL Its not really something that crops up in a conversation y'know, like alright mate, how was ur day, yeah pretty good, you? yeah not bad, Arsenal won today, oh did they? Yeah 3 nil...oh right, got'cha, oh by the way Dad, i dont believe in God, good eh? Y'know? I'm just not for all that tarty new millenium thing of "coming out"...flash of the cameras, how do you feel now you've come out? Ooooohhhh, i feel SOOOO liberateddd!!! The way i look at it, why would anyone give a f**k what i believe and why should they? And why should i wanna have it written on my forehead what i believe? No one makes me do nothing, i don't tread on no ones toes, no one treads on mine...simple.
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| ignominius | May 26 2010, 11:07 PM Post #131 |
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I'm sure you have. As you've been throwing provocative things at us, let me throw something at you...I promise it won't hurt. Where do you stand on extremist Islam. Do you applaud their efforts or do you think that religion should be a private individual thing? I'd be interested to know. For instance do you support the idea of Shariah law or would you prefer that we keep society secular and one law for all? |
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| Deleted User | May 26 2010, 11:17 PM Post #132 |
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You say that you never tell your parents your feelings or your beliefs.So I take it when you go to these punk gigs, you sneak down the drain pipe with your spiky hair and bondage trousers on? Because I'm sure the last time I listened to punk music it wasn't very Godly. I've got kids and I know every move they make, before they've even made it. Are your parents not very observant or are they just getting old? |
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| keefriffhard | May 26 2010, 11:23 PM Post #133 |
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Apparently talking of peace and resolution and compromise in the interest of preserving human life is provocative. Fair enough.
Like any form of extremism in relation to ones views on the world i think its counter productive and a hinderance to the progression of our species.
I find their effort deplorable, sinister and rather fascist. Do i think religion should be a private individual thing? Ummm, i'm not sure, i suppose its up to the individual in question, you can be brazen about it if it takes your fancy but i certainly don't agree with forcing ones belief on another.
Are you taking the piss? Shar'iah law in England? Yeah, that'd go down a treat! Of course not, don't be ridiculous, i think each country should decide their own law and it should be humane above all, with consideration for human rights, which is something that western countries are often remiss in practising as well as their muslim counterparts (who quite frankly, really do take the piss sometimes).
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| keefriffhard | May 26 2010, 11:30 PM Post #134 |
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No, i don't have spikey hair (not now anyway) and i've never owned bondage trousers. Punks meant to be about being yourself, dressing like you want, acting like you want, being who you are, not all wearing this uniform image and attitude, thats missing the point. I am 26 years old y'know, i ain't a soddin' Judy, i can come and go as i please, i'm a teensy bit past the knock on the door and "can Naz come out and play football pleeeeease?" age
Yeah, they're a cross section of society that got pointlessly vilified and maligned too.
They're in their mid 50s and they're observant enough its just...y'know, i'm a grown man, i go out, i have a laugh, there's nothing...unusual about that. I try not to come home all hours pissed and stoned out of my mind and puke in the bathroom because its their house and one should be respectful of anothers beliefs/personal space/rules etc which has nothing to do with their being muslim and everything to do with me not being a c**t...nobody wants that in their house. Other than that i do my thing, they do theirs. They're perfectly worldly grown ups, i'm sure they're aware that people my age that stay out til 1 or 2am probably ain't around their mates playing tiddleywinks or discussing the works of Jean Paul Satre but at the same time i don't give em no cause for concern so there's no problem
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And what exactly is it that a muslim types like you cheeky git?
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