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A Antifa members encounter with EDL
Topic Started: May 5 2010, 02:14 PM (965 Views)
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May 5 2010, 10:54 PM
Indeed. The 20s & 30s were quite quite different times to now.
Some factions may have been relevant then, but it seems like they are trying to relive histories as studio says.

Furthermore, they are still trying to apply past theories too. The commies still spout Marx & the anarchists still spout Bakunin & Kropotkin.
Like(agree with) him or not, at least Chomsky (for example) is a little more contemporary.
Chomsky is spot on in some respects. His excess of democracy theory, involving the Vietnam War and the Tri-lateral Alliance is mind blowing
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May 5 2010, 10:54 PM
Like(agree with) him or not [Chomsky]...
Not. :)
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But some like me were anti Nazi when all we had were white supremacists (1980's). Then the world changed, everybody started to hate everybody else, and the rules changed. Some of the Crass guys worked out that you have to widen the scope, scum comes in all colours. Some guys are racist by circumstance, to pick on them is wrong. But some believe their colour is the best, and a few of us worked out that was irrelevant of the colour. Racism is racism, fascism is fascism.

The high handed way some dismiss a group as 'single ended' and as such they cant work with it smacks of superiority. It is better to work with 12 little groups effectively than 1 big failure.

Then again, they claim that the EDL are thugs while bragging of their 'victories'

I am an illiterate in their book, yet to even me their stance is just the A-typical 'my anarchy is better than yours' used by guys too afraid to step outside the box and form their own opinion...
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May 5 2010, 11:11 PM
their stance is just the A-typical 'my anarchy is better than yours' used by guys too afraid to step outside the box and form their own opinion...
YES!!!!!

On that enlightening note - I'm gonna go watch DC United lose at home, again.
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And as if by magic, one appears... post 14

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The more people become marginalized and alienated, the more appealing radical parties and organizations will become.

It is inevitable that some people, who would function perfectly well in our sort of revolutionary movements, will instead filter into Right wing organizations based only on local influences. In such cases, talking to individuals may prove to be fruitful.

This where the Right, as MilitantAnarchist indirectly demonstrates, outperforms us on a routine basis. People with a revolutionary spirit but no strong theoretical foundation are drawn to that vital mixture of strength, danger and anger.

It's not for nothing to note that many of the most intractable fascists, such as Mussolini or Goebbels, had socialist or socialist-leaning backgrounds before they made the plunge.
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think he's been sitting in his bedsit making the whole story up myself,i mean how unbelivable is this line "It was a typical saturday, was suppose to be going out with some mates from work "
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"no strong theoretical foundation"

That's patronising. They're saying, 'we have the right answer as long as you will listen to us'.
That's the self-righteous shit I'm getting sick to the tits of from these textbook-anarchists.
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"I notice this leaflet, three red circles at the bottom, with red lines through... My spider-senses told me it was political, so I asked the barmaid if i could see it.....f**king English Defence League leaflet... Already I'm f**king angry, clutching at the empty bottle of cider, ready for action..."

Yea Right ^o)
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I was in my ACAB t-shirt with a denim shirt over, covered in Crass logo's and FIGHT WAR NOT WARS, not to mention various Antifascist badges (e.g Lets fight white pride) and my Antifa tattoo on show.... Instantly, they knew who i was....


I wonder how they knew he was a red?
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probably the wanker written all over his forehead....
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I cannot believe you good folks actually believe this , its obviously a joke
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No wonder he was off line for a while, must have took him an age to think up that bit of fiction!!!!
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May 6 2010, 08:15 PM
I cannot believe you good folks actually believe this , its obviously a joke
Well if its good enough for Comrade Lewis, who are we to dissagree?

Now get back to the field, there's work to be done Comrade Henchman!!
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*sniff* *sniff* what's that smell , oh it's complete and uter s**t
Edited by ReltonBFD, May 6 2010, 10:43 PM.
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that will be comrade clueless's underwear...
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Tell you what if those b*stards want to live a life of determanism send em to cuba. They will be f**king begginf to come back to our glorious meritocracy in 3 seconds flat.
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The reds and self-haters declared us the enemy, not the other way round, and they continue to lie and spread crap about the EDL. The reds have a history of defending our nations enemies (ira/islamic extremists etc) so f**k each and every one of 'em!!!

Islamic extremists - public enemy no1, Reds/antifa/uaf - public enemy no2. Simples.
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studio
May 6 2010, 10:44 PM
that will be comrade clueless's underwear...
Maybe, but like I said early on it the thread, it feels like a wind up to me as well. He's just laying brick after brick of cliche's - slept till afternoon, my anti fa tattoo, the shirt, drinking a lot of cider..... sounds a bit like someone who is having a laugh at their expense.
On the other hand, he has three hundred posts over there. I dunno.
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there are more holes in that story than on bennets over sized belt.

for those who are still confused about the difference between Antifa and UAF, these videos ought to clear it up.

Antifa are an ultra militant federation of violent anarchists and extreme left wing activists.

antifa


UAF is the political eqivalent of a damp sponge. they are predominantly middle class students and liberals who are not interested in confronting anybody, let alone the EDL. the guys you see charging at the cops and shouting, throwing missiles are Antifa. the UAF are spineless cowards and no sort of concern at all.

UAF
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How can the Antifa call themslves Hooligans?

That video is one of the most pathetic things I have ever seen.
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Black Bloc do have some fun though...
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May 5 2010, 09:06 PM
Clee: I think that was just Steve Ignorant and a backing band. Penny, the drummer, was not at all pleased about it for the reasons you mention - insincere cabaret.
yes mate,it was just steve ignorant with session musicians,
ive just been talking to me mate,
he's doing it again as a tour shortly! (must be skint then!)
and co-incidently penny was in dublin doing poetry last night and
apparently it was TOTAL s**tE !!!
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i honestly don't think this is a wind up.

Look at the links in his signature, his story is obviously made up bollocks but honestly think he isn't winding them up.
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Reading that article has just got me in a fit of laughter and rage at the same time. why? Because it was us that the c**t was talking to! and not one of his quotes is true, not surprising tho eh. his local is in Loughborough btw cant remember the name but wil lfind out and pay him another visit. the twat didnt even know what half his tattos meant!
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oh he forgot to mention that he said as we left "hopefully the next time i see you were not on opposite sides of a riot". yh hed fukin better hope not!
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"where he says we could be kicking your head in" translates back to english as "if we were what people like you said we were wed be seig heiling and kicking your head in now". also the mein kampf conversation referred to would have been more along the lines of comparing it to the quran. as isdone on the islam monitor website which i told him to read.
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just goes to show mate - finish em off the first time!
im suprised any of its true tbh! wierd
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the only part of it thats true is he met us sitting under a flag. the only reason he met us was because we were in the smoking area and hed came out for a smoke. as for the rest of it he feels better knowing hes hard so well leave him alone,lol
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Should of just kicked his face in.
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May 8 2010, 07:36 PM
there are more holes in that story than on bennets over sized belt.

for those who are still confused about the difference between Antifa and UAF, these videos ought to clear it up.

Antifa are an ultra militant federation of violent anarchists and extreme left wing activists.

antifa


UAF is the political eqivalent of a damp sponge. they are predominantly middle class students and liberals who are not interested in confronting anybody, let alone the EDL. the guys you see charging at the cops and shouting, throwing missiles are Antifa. the UAF are spineless cowards and no sort of concern at all.

UAF
So the are a mix of middle-class student drop outs,hippies,punks and jobless crusties ?????.
I wonder if there are any gangs around Bradford or Birmingham and i wonder what they think of asian chavs and bombers.
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Never read so much b*llocks in my life! When confronted about his antifa tattoo he denied it saying he regretted having it done when he was younger. The pubs only five minutes from where I live.
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Oh... and that wasn't even half the division lol :D
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ahhh bollocks,
when i saw you post on this thread i thought you were goin to say you saw him again over weekend :D
what a fkn muppet.
bet he steers clear of the local for a few years now.
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May 10 2010, 12:15 PM
Oh... and that wasn't even half the division lol :D
Be good if you give us a account of what really happened
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May 10 2010, 12:45 PM
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Oh... and that wasn't even half the division lol :D
Be good if you give us a account of what really happened
Briefly about 12 of our division went to Loughborough for the TA home-coming parade. After the parade was over we went for a pint in the Pack Horse pub (this guy's local - incase anyone's up this way ;) ).

Landlady was absolutely fine with us being there and didn't mind us putting up the flag. When I go back outside in the smoking area there's this scruffy f**ker wearing all antifa stuff. Definitely not your average UAF soap-dodger. It was me who had a problem with the red laces - which is a sign that he's a commie. If he did have a fight white pride badge he must have taken it off sharpish then - cos all he had was an anarchy one. As I said earlier, when challenged about his antifa tattoo he said he got it by mistake when he was younger.

We explained to him what we were about. He had some very confused views about Anarchy which he couldn't explain. Just kept saying he wanted to do what he wanted and had no concept of state or legisalation. Seemed to think public order would be kept by peoples "inate goodness" Serious this guy was a nutter.

We didn't threaten him at all. Even shook hands with him when we left. We made it perfectly clear who we were and as Leicester pointed out earlier we said that if we were as bad as the media portrays us we would have jumped him. I thought we had got him to understand our point of view - even if he didn't agree with it. Apparently not. Right, off out for a pint...
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Seemed to think public order would be kept by peoples "inate goodness"

jesus christ!!!!
thats pretty scary theres people out there who think like that!
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has anyone posted this thread as a reply on the orig revleft article?
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May 10 2010, 01:07 PM
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Oh... and that wasn't even half the division lol :D
Be good if you give us a account of what really happened
Briefly about 12 of our division went to Loughborough for the TA home-coming parade. After the parade was over we went for a pint in the Pack Horse pub (this guy's local - incase anyone's up this way ;) ).

Landlady was absolutely fine with us being there and didn't mind us putting up the flag. When I go back outside in the smoking area there's this scruffy f**ker wearing all antifa stuff. Definitely not your average UAF soap-dodger. It was me who had a problem with the red laces - which is a sign that he's a commie. If he did have a fight white pride badge he must have taken it off sharpish then - cos all he had was an anarchy one. As I said earlier, when challenged about his antifa tattoo he said he got it by mistake when he was younger.

We explained to him what we were about. He had some very confused views about Anarchy which he couldn't explain. Just kept saying he wanted to do what he wanted and had no concept of state or legisalation. Seemed to think public order would be kept by peoples "inate goodness" Serious this guy was a nutter.

We didn't threaten him at all. Even shook hands with him when we left. We made it perfectly clear who we were and as Leicester pointed out earlier we said that if we were as bad as the media portrays us we would have jumped him. I thought we had got him to understand our point of view - even if he didn't agree with it. Apparently not. Right, off out for a pint...
According to the dirt, He tried to call class war for confrontation.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

Freedom is not free.
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Yeah he was banging on about class war and how he has more in common with workers in another country than people of a different class in this country.

I told him this was bollocks and that the class war ended in the 50's and the left lost.
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May 10 2010, 01:11 PM
Seemed to think public order would be kept by peoples "inate goodness"

jesus christ!!!!
thats pretty scary theres people out there who think like that!
Then mainstay of my belief is 'Do what you want, when you want, but do not hurt anybody else doing it'

I have s**t loads of disrespect for anybody trying to move my belief into the realms of reality. Its a personal code, I live by it where possible. I vote because I think that by not doing so I might affect somebody more than any decision I actually make in the booth. I fully understand that it could never be more than a personal thing. Anybody who thinks otherwise is deluded..

This guy is a prize plank, he spends time reading forums but doesn't understand the words. I do not normally advocate violence, but in this case a SLAP OR TWO MIGHT HELP HIS MENTAL STATE. Look on it as a community service ;)
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Bit of an update on this one.

Had a chat with the lad who allegedly posted this story the other week - he claimed his mate wrote it based on what he told him. Either way the story has been removed and Millitant Anarchist banned from rev left. Job done.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/my-day-edl-t134676/index.html
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nice one
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lol
thats funny,
what are these people on?
claiming his mate wrote it ,what a mug.
at least be man enough to admit it ffs.
nearly as funny as sayin he had the antifa tattoo by mistake.
what a prize knob.
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