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My Kids School Report on Islam!
Topic Started: Apr 21 2010, 06:20 PM (1,472 Views)
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Here's a classic. My kids have been at school today and they've been at RE again, doing some reading on f**king Islam! Here's some of my daughter's notes from one of the Islamic text books at her 'Christian' school:

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1. c) - Opnion on Ramadan - Whats known as Ramadan was actually a pagan practice that the Sabians in the middle east practiced before the time of Muhammad. Whats known as ramadan was actually a pagan practice which was later used as part of the Islamic faith. To me this is confusing since islam discourages the use of pagan practices, and also the Bible which islam claims to beleive in very clearly states not to use pagan practices or to do the rituals that they do. Muhammad was referred to as a sabian at one point in history because he was seen by the pagans to have been practising their rites and rituals. This is based on historical facts that cannot be denied.

2 a) - When muhammad was a child, he was nursed by a Bedouin woman, muhammad then claimed to have been visited by 2 white beings who then proceded to physically open up his chest and clean out his heart physically. When his nursing mother found this out, She was quite distrought and returned muhammad to his mother and also stated that she fears that he may have been possessed by a demon. This is according to islamic sources which I quote, W. M. Watt's translation of Ibn Ishaq's biography of Muhammad, page 36; and Guillaume's translation of Ibn Ishaq, page 72.

In comparison with angel visitations to prophets or people in the Bible such as those of Angel Gabirle, where the people are greeted peacefully, Muhammads visitations were different, and according to Islamic sources such as Quoting from the Hadith of Bukhari, 9.111; 96.15 state that the angel "caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore." The sources are very clear that once muhammad left the cave, he was extremely distressed about his visitation by this being. According to other Quranic sources muhammad also became suicidal after the visitation by this spirit being, which is confusing as Biblical accounts of angel Visitations never caused a person to become fearful let alone suicidal. This is just based on historical facts, not opinions. A lady After Muhammad arrived in Medina in 622 AD, a number of local people began to dislike him. Many of them were Jews, some were Pagan Arabs. One by one, Muhammad's critics were silenced; some became Muslims, some were murdered, others were driven out of Medina. One instance is a man by the name of Abu Afak, who was 120 years old, he merely said that muhammads followers should leave him, for this Muhammad ordered this old man to be killed secretly in his sleep. In my opinion this violates free speech and people who criticize or speak the truth should not be killed, this type of behaviour should not be tolerated. `Asma' bint Marwan. Her crime was that she spoke out against Muhammad for having another man murdered named Abu Afak. In his displeasure towards her, Muhammad asked his followers to murder her as well. She was killed while she slept. In my opinion a person who claims to follow a merciful God but yet who doesn't show mercy to other people should not be given credibility.


2 c) - My opinion is that based on accurate historical Islamic sources that clearly state that muhammad was distrought at the time of his visitation by the spirit being and also physically hurt, said to be demon possessed, and became suicidal, My truthful opinion would be that based on these Islamic sources that in a Court of law, a person like this would not be given credibility in any case and raises the question wether we should be trusting or living our lives according to the revelations that he was given. The quran also states that men can have four wives, but reliable Islamic sources confirm that muhammad had between 9 to 11 wives at one point, which contradicts what God would have said to him. I think this is unfair that muslims have to follow the rule of having 4 wives whilst muhammad gets to have more which conflicts the quran, and also the Bible clearly states that we are to only marry one person, this again contradicts the Bible which Islam claims to uphold and beleive in.

3 c) - In my opinion The Hajj was a practice that was used firstly by the pagan people called The Sabians, they impacted muhammads life to the extent that he was as one point in history referred to as "the Sabian". The hajj in pre-islamic arabia was already being practiced, therefore is nothing new, and in my honest opinion does not go well with what the Quran says with regards to using pagan practices or rituals. Reverance to objects whatever they may be, is also strictly prohibited in the Bible, which again creates a problem if true followers of islam are to follow the rules laid out by God in the Holy Bible. There are historical facts that clearly show the practice of what is today called the Hajj being practiced even before the time of Muhammad, these facts cannot, and should not be denied, or overlooked.

Ive written those up for you by hand, I hope you find them useful, just choose what you want to use. Im pretty sure that the truth will hurt and maybe your kids might be asked about why they have written such things so I urge you to use them at your own consent.

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Apr 22 2010, 04:58 PM
Here's a classic. My kids have been at school today and they've been at RE again, doing some reading on f**king Islam! Here's some of my daughter's notes from one of the Islamic text books at her 'Christian' school:

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Have to like the bit "Muhammed was a real person". Reminds of me of the discussions I have had in the past with Leftists who claimed that Jesus wasn't real but a fictional character whereas Muhammed was real. Crikey anyone would think that Leftists controlled the schooling of the nations children.. LOL :0(
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What must hurt is that she is obviously dedicated to her schoolwork but has to waste her precious time and skills regurgitating stuff like this.
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Just posting to update my decision on this. Thanks everyone for your input.

I was about to sit down and help my kids write this report as it's due in on Thursday. However, I decided to just let my daughters hand in the following letter (already printed and in their bags):

RE: YOUR RELIGIOUS EDUCATION.


To whom this may concern,


On behalf of Marie Fidel and Holly Fidel, I’d like to take this opportunity to relay my disgust at the religious education curriculum in your school.

Under no circumstances are you to teach your lies about Islam to my daughters. Islam is a disgusting cult of terror, hatred and oppression. I want no part of it for my children.

They will not be completing your brainwashing report of falsehood and lies. I will be telling them the real truth about Islam, the Qur’an and the paedophile, Jew hating, mass murdering, genocidal maniac that was Muhammad.




Yours sincerely,




I. N. Fidel


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Nice one Shagger
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well done shagger mate ;)
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Respect! B-)
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May 4 2010, 08:49 PM
Just posting to update my decision on this. Thanks everyone for your input.

I was about to sit down and help my kids write this report as it's due in on Thursday. However, I decided to just let my daughters hand in the following letter (already printed and in their bags):

RE: YOUR RELIGIOUS EDUCATION.


To whom this may concern,


On behalf of Mel Fidel and Kim Fidel, I’d like to take this opportunity to relay my disgust at the religious education curriculum in your school.

Under no circumstances are you to teach your lies about Islam to my daughters. Islam is a disgusting cult of terror, hatred and oppression. I want no part of it for my children.

They will not be completing your brainwashing report of falsehood and lies. I will be telling them the real truth about Islam, the Qur’an and the paedophile, Jew hating, mass murdering, genocidal maniac that was Muhammad.




Yours sincerely,




I. N. Fidel


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the only thing i ever new about islam when i was a youngster was ali baba and the 40 thieves and flying bloody carpets :D
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Spot on that! :D
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Nice one.
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well lots of muslims remove their children from ant religious education that isnt about islam so i think its time we removed our kids from any islamic re classes
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this is discusting!, talk about going into detail, why would british children want to learn about islam, next on the agenda kids.... how to wear a headscarf.
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nah headscarfs arnt on the agenda for our kids my daughter got threatened with suspension for wearing a black and white scarf in school. deputy head couldnt or wouldnt answer why the muslims could wear any type of head scarf they liked and any colour, they have a set headpiece for uniform but tell teacher if asked why they not wearing a uniform scarf "well its my religion miss" so school s**ts its self and gives in
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Apr 21 2010, 06:39 PM
Just a few all taken from the Quran i'm sure you can find worse but was just a quick 2 minute search. I'm sure your kid can then give an opinion on what they think of him from these quotes.


MUHAMMAD: MUHAMMAD GAVE HIS FOLLOWERS THE AUTHORITY TO WAGE WAR ON UNBELIEVERS.

MUHAMMAD: MUHAMMAD KILLED HIS ENEMIES AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREED WITH HIM
(SURA 9:5).

MUHAMMAD: MUHAMMAD COMMANDED HIS ADOPTED SON TO DIVORCE HIS WIFE SO THAT SHE WOULD BECOME HIS (SURA 33:36-38).

MUHAMMAD: MUHAMMAD INSTRUCTED HIS FOLLOWERS ON HOW TO DIVIDE BOOTY SEIZED FROM UNBELIEVERS.

MUHAMMAD: MUHAMMAD ORDERED MUSLIMS TO ATTACK ANY CITY THAT REJECTED ISLAM.

MUHAMMAD: MUHAMMAD TOLD HIS FOLLOWERS TO FIGHT (MILITARILY) HARD AGAINST UNBELIEVERS.
Sons homework completed now! nice one he's gonna get his first A this year.
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Power to you, Shagger for standing up to this brain washing of our kids.

Caution: Might be good to take your names off the letter on open forum.
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Shagger: I'm sure you used pseudonyms for the first names, but I changed them to something random to pre-empt your answer.
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Son to Teacher. sir my dad said......'Allah Akbar' is the last thing you will hear on a plane about to be blown up by the muzzies, is this true?.........

Teacher to Son..... yes Bassline's son, this is what they shout....

Son to Teacher.......So from start to finish they get Allah Akbar drilled in to them?

Teacher to son.......Yes Bassline's Son

Son to teacher.......Aint that brainwashin Sir?
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We found out that my Grandson was being brainwashed with this bullsh*t and we told the teacher to remove him from all leasons about the muslim faith. They did it without question.

We also checked that the meat being served up at his school was not Halal by asking for the contact details of the meat supplyers and phoned them to make sure.

Fight for your rights and way of life!
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Was about to say don't use your daughter's real names then it clicked!!

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ive knocked up a letter for my kids school in the morning hope they like it

Dear Sir/Madame,
I am writing to exercise my right as a parent to remove ****** from any religious education about Islam. I find it totally unacceptable that schools brainwash children into believing Islam is the religion of peace and love. This sick twisted cult promotes paedophile behaviour and childhood marriage, religious intolerance and anti-Semitism as well as homophobia. Islam is also spreading its message with indiscriminate bombings of innocent people world wide all in the name of peace. As long as Islam remains in its current guise I will undertake to inform my children of the truth behind this abhorrent cult.
Yours truly
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May 4 2010, 10:02 PM
ive knocked up a letter for my kids school in the morning hope they like it

Dear Sir/Madame,
I am writing to exercise my right as a parent to remove ****** from any religious education about Islam. I find it totally unacceptable that schools brainwash children into believing Islam is the religion of peace and love. This sick twisted cult promotes paedophile behaviour and childhood marriage, religious intolerance and anti-Semitism as well as homophobia. Islam is also spreading its message with indiscriminate bombings of innocent people world wide all in the name of peace. As long as Islam remains in its current guise I will undertake to inform my children of the truth behind this abhorrent cult.
Yours truly
letter also on way to school
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Personally 'F*ck Off' on the homework would have suited me.

But good job on the letters lads!
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I am late into reading this thread. Only read a few posts and I am spitting feathers here.

FHS this is just ridiculous - this is unadulterated indoctrination.

(Btw, Islam does not allow anyone to draw pictures of their Mo, it is prohibited.)

If my child came home with that above, not only would I be infuriated and disgusted, I would duly send it back blank with a letter of complaint, and then I would complain to ofsted and then I would contact all of the newspapers listed below. (If all else fails I would consider removing my child from that particular school) - this is all part of the Islamic agenda - indoctrination.

Not complaining about this will only encourage more of this brainwashing/infiltration)......takes a deep breath

Daily Express 020 7928 8000
expressletters@express.co.uk
• Daily Mail 020 7938 6000
letters@dailymail.co.uk
• Daily Mirror 020 7293 3000
mailbox@mirror.co.uk
• Daily Telegraph 020 7538 5000
dtletters@telegraph.co.uk
• Metro mail@ukmetro.co.uk
• The Guardian 020 7278 2332
letters@guardian.co.uk
• The Independent 020 7005 2000
letters@independent.co.uk
• The Times 020 7782 5000
letters@thetimes.co.uk
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• The Sun 020 7782 5000
letters@the-sun.co.uk
• The Scotsman 0131 620 8620
letters@scotsman.com
• The Herald 0141 302 7000
letters@theherald.co.uk
• BBC 0870 010 0222
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
• ITV 0870 600 6766
dutyoffice@itv.com
• Channel 4 020 7306 8333
viewerenquiries@channel4.co.uk
• SKY viewer@bskyb.com

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SHAGGER: why not let Jihadwatch and Atlas Shrugs know of this? People should be made aware of what these damn schools are doing to our children
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Shagger and Agamemnon: truly awesome. If Everybody took a copy of your letters and handed them in at the start of term, that would truly put an end to it. :nothing2add: :nosurrender:
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Really, this is soooooo wrong.

Considering there is so much DELIBERATE dumbing down of Christianity and other religions these days, yet the schools seem very eager to force upon our children Islam. It really is indoctrinateion.
Deeply worrying.

(I must step away from this thread for a while before I humanly combust)
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fern one day your child will come home with something along the same lines and by that point it will be to late. its time we all make a stand and say no right now before our kids get this craprammed down their throats by some uaf school agenda
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Thankfully my child escaped this, but I have a grandchild and then nieces and nephews.

How dare they do this to children......(restrains self from posting expletives)

We have been silent for so darn long, it is going to be difficult getting this particular genie back in the bottle.

It doesn't help when so many parents these days say nowt and let this continue.
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I'm so glad i always told my past teachers at school that it was a waste of time, every lesson i would say. "I'm not a muslim so why do i have to learn about Islam?" coming from the area of both schools i went to i don't think it was much suprise that nobody cared about the Religious education.

Why should children have to cut down on learning English,Maths and Science just to learn about less then 5% of the population?
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May 4 2010, 08:49 PM
Just posting to update my decision on this. Thanks everyone for your input.

I was about to sit down and help my kids write this report as it's due in on Thursday. However, I decided to just let my daughters hand in the following letter (already printed and in their bags):

RE: YOUR RELIGIOUS EDUCATION.


To whom this may concern,


On behalf of Marie Fidel and Holly Fidel, I’d like to take this opportunity to relay my disgust at the religious education curriculum in your school.

Under no circumstances are you to teach your lies about Islam to my daughters. Islam is a disgusting cult of terror, hatred and oppression. I want no part of it for my children.

They will not be completing your brainwashing report of falsehood and lies. I will be telling them the real truth about Islam, the Qur’an and the paedophile, Jew hating, mass murdering, genocidal maniac that was Muhammad.




Yours sincerely,




I. N. Fidel


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I'm so glad i always told my past teachers at school that it was a waste of time, every lesson i would say. "I'm not a muslim so why do i have to learn about Islam?" coming from the area of both schools i went to i don't think it was much suprise that nobody cared about the Religious education.

Why should children have to cut down on learning English,Maths and Science just to learn about less then 5% of the population?
LOL It won't be 5% of the population for long.

Islam is the fastest growing religion.

Although the UK is highly populated with Christians, a majority of them are in their 70's.

The muslim population mutiplies 10 times faster than the rest of society. In a short space of a few years (2004 - 2008) the Muslim population grew by 500,00 whilst the Christian population fell by 2 million.

Some reports say that by 2035 the muslim population will be 20 - 40% - not hard to imagine at the rate they are going!

They already have a firm grip of power in this country @ 5%, so I dread to imagine what this country will be like by the year 2035.
The bloodless war!
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Islam is the fastest growing cult.
Fixed. ;)
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Lol, slip of the finger!
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Makes me think of Religious education at my school back around 1990.They tried to teach us a variety of religions but mostly Islam to satisfy the schools 60% muslims.
I missed out on what was being said though, i was too busy trying to avoid punches,kicks and flying spittle from those peaceful Islamic classmates of mine!

Here's a memory i'd put right to the back of my mind for years untill i read this thread...

I remember one day the classroom was turned into an exibition of all the main items associated with the main religions, all on their own tables. As the Muslims passed the christian table, they spat on the Cross and Bible.

Fu*king B'stards!

When somebody did the same to the Koran, all hell broke lose and a riot erupted. Say's it all really.

Eeeeeeh! Still. I learned a lot at that school. Thanks to the racist bullies most of what i learned was about the evil shadow that is Islam.

I can truely empathise with anyone who has to endure this kind of hell within a majority Muslim school.
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Muhammad’s Actions, Speaking Louder than Words
Now, from the Muslim perspective using their own writings, let us examine in more detail some
actions that Muhammad ordered. There are more incidents we could reference, but for the sake of time
and space we have to limit the amount of detailed information (see Appendix B). This additional material
is presented to facilitate honest evaluation and judgment of Muhammad himself, because it is only by his
actions that he can and should be judged.
While reading the incidents below, we should continue to ask ourselves if real Islam, i.e.
Muhammad’s Islam, allows aggressive violence and terrorism. The following 13 events and incidents
(occurring in the last years of Muhammad’s life) will be examined:
1) The killing of Abu Afak.
2) The killing of Asma Marwan.
3) Attack upon the Banu Qaynuqa Jews.
4) The killing of Kab Ashraf.
5) The killing of Ibn Sunayna.
6) Attack against the Banu Nadir Jews.
7) The killing of the Shepherd.
8) Massacre of the Qurayza Jews.
9) The torture killing of Kinana.
10) The killing of a slave Wife and Mother.
11) The slaying of an old woman from Fazara.
12) The killing of Abdullah Khatal and his Daughter.
13) The attack upon Tabuk.

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What worries me is this bit:
"A description of Muhammed and his life (including when he received the Qur'an)."
No he fcuking did not receive the fcuking Koran. Why the fcuk is it stated as a fact?
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well i took the letter in to reception this morning. the receptionist read the letter and changed colour to a pale shade of white. then tried to hand it back to me saying "im sorry i cant accept this" i replied "im sorry but you have no choice, i am exercising my legal right as a parent"
wonder how long till i get headmaster on the phone?
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well i took the letter in to reception this morning. the receptionist read the letter and changed colour to a pale shade of white. then tried to hand it back to me saying "im sorry i cant accept this" i replied "im sorry but you have no choice, i am exercising my legal right as a parent"
wonder how long till i get headmaster on the phone?
Agamemnon, it is your human right not to have to go to an islamic lesson.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not have to go to RE classes because they do not believe what is being said. It is your RIGHT!

Ring up a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses and ask them! They can't have one rule for one and another rule for a different person!

The headmaster is not your boss. He must respect you as he would any other parent. Don't let them bully you. I am looking this up on internet now.

BTW, muslim girls go to Catholic schools because they are single sex. I bet they don't go to mass or take communion! ;)
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Good on you for making a stance.

We await further developments. :unsure:
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Im looking forward to an update on this one too !
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well latest update from school. none of my children will be subject to brainwashing as far as islam is concerned all teachers are now aware of this fact as well. at least the head respects the law works both ways
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RESULT!!!
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Good for you. :respect:
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I've posted these pictures before.

I'm not sure but maybe your kids should hand in a copy of this website:

WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES
http://www.anglicandioceseofjos.org/dogo.html
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"Medical research suggests that while British Pakistanis are responsible for 3% of all births, they account for one in three British children born with genetic illnesses. The question to think about is: Could the practice of interbreeding be the key to the success and longevity of Islam? Could it be that the genetic and mental illnesses borne of interbreeding are a factor in the unquestioning nature of the majority of Muslims regarding spirituality? "
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Well, I made sure my phone was in my pocket all day yesterday but it didn't ring. I thought maybe my two daughters had bottled out, but when they got home they were really happy. They walked into RE yesterday and handed their notes to their teacher. Her read the notes and my daughters said he went bright red and his eyes nearly popped out their sockets.

He took both my daughters out of the class and spoke to them. He asked, 'what are you suppoed to do now then?'. Not knowing what to say, they just smiled and said, 'don't know but not Islam'. He took the note to the headmaster and was told to give my daughters a book on Christianity to read.

Why didn't they bother their arse to phone me?!
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That sounds like a darn good result Shagger. Well done to you, and your littleuns. :)

(if only more parents would take this stance ------sigh)
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Same goes to Agamemnon - well done to you and yours.
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